Thread: Whippin' Post Weather Volume TWO

gina - 12/27/2016 at 10:15 PM

It's time folks. Piacere, you should be okay through this one. Parts of New England will get hammered though. -night-into-friday-across-the-northeast/2430839568001
Bernie Rayno

Joe Cioffi rn-to-the-northeast/70000395

Uh-oh for some of you.

Central pressure of storm will fall to 965 mb over Maine -- get your barometers ready ... equivalent to tropical Cat 3 hurricane pressure"
"While only 1-3" snow in Boston from upcoming powerful coastal storm, inland should see at least 1-foot of heavy, wet snow." 12.27.16

[Edited on 12/27/2016 by gina]

gina - 12/27/2016 at 10:20 PM

Polar Vortex coming first week of the New Year. Ohhhhhh Whippin' Post!

Here's a late Christmas present -- GFS 18z unloading the #PolarVortex on central Lower 48 -- but it's 7-8 days away ... could go poof.

gina - 12/29/2016 at 12:08 AM

Latest update, Maine gets the worst of it, and they will get it bad. Vermont, New Hampshire will get a foot or more. The storm will be off Montauk at 5 pm at 990 mb, as it heads north, at this point what they call bombogenesis will start to occur with the pressure dropping 3 millibars per hour, which is why it will be like a Cat 3 hurricane when it gets up there.

Long Island, should be rain starting by 8 AM. Winds kick up between 5 pm and 7 pm as the monster heads up north. dvisory-hudson-valley-nw/

Bernie's update snow-map/2430839568001

For those of you obsessed about knowing what is coming, when and want all the details, you can get it all here.

Stephen - 12/29/2016 at 08:46 PM

Yes, coming down steady, will become heaviest overnite, expecting 16" or so --
Thanks again Gina for the weather stuff -- in all seriousness the gamma ray burst thread is my favorite this year -- us weather fans/space cadets gotta stick together

gina - 1/3/2017 at 07:31 PM

Lots of weather coming this week for everyone.

Saturday morning still best chance for flurries or snow showers briefly in Atlanta. Heavier snow in Carolinas, VA.

By Sat, E US freezing beneath bone dry Arctic air (10% of normal moisture) while California goes bonkers snow/rain w/moisture > 200% normal

North east the cold is coming. Chicago will be 19 degrees by Wednesday!

gina - 1/5/2017 at 12:30 AM

Head's up North Carolina. Raleigh, snow coming for you, the storm is off Charlotte, NC right now. Richmond Virginia, snow is coming your way also. m-morning-update/2430839568001

As for those up here, first reports say 2-4, then there are some possibles of 6", it's weather, it's complicated. I like the Navegem take on it, we don't get much.

[Edited on 1/5/2017 by gina]

gina - 1/7/2017 at 12:17 AM

Saturday snowcast 1.7.16

Totals predicted (combined weather sources)
Providence 4-8
Boston 5-10
Cape 12-14
LI 3-6
Queens 3-4
Nassau Suff 3-6 or 4-8
Raleigh 6-12
Atlantic City Rehoboth Beach 6-9
DC 3-6

Timing: Long Island 1-7 pm, worst of it with the wind 4 pm
Boston, Little Rhody, Saturday evening, after it is done with us.
Saturday is going to be a disaster for travel out of Atlanta, roads will be suicide in North Georgia, Carolinas into Norfolk Blizzard warnings up to Norfolk.

Bernie Rayno -to-move-toward-northeast/2430839568001
Joe Cioffi -watch-up-north/70000482

This is a storm in the west. t=H9jXKyyQ

I keep wanting to think these storms are a fluke, it's too early in the season for this, but as my shovel brother in Little Rhody knows, if the northeast is gonna have a bad winter, sometimes it starts like this. I sure hope it is limited to February (as predicted) or maybe we get mercy, I sure need some right about now.

gina - 1/7/2017 at 12:37 AM

Okay snow is coming, so kick back and make yourself happy, this might help!

gina - 1/8/2017 at 07:57 PM

Long Island snow totals

Nassau County

•Hicksville- 9.2 inches
•Plainview- 9 inches
•Wantagh- 8.9 inches
•East Norwich- 8 inches
•East Meadow- 7.8 inches
•Bethpage- 7.8 inches
•Mineola- 7.7 inches
•Floral Park- 7.2 inches
•Old Brookville- 7.1 inches
•Westbury- 6.5 inches
•Roslyn- 6.1 inches
•Glen Cove. 5.2 inches
•Island Park- 4.6 inches

Suffolk County

•Yaphank- 10.8 inches
•Laurel- 10.5 inches
•Coram- 10.3 inches
•Calverton- 10.2 inches
•East Shoreham- 10.1 inches
•Nesconset- 10 inches
•Riverhead- 10 inches
•Farmingville- 9.9 inches
•Upton- 9.8 inches
•Port Jefferson Station- 9.7 inches
•Stony Brook- 9.6 inches
•Lake Ronkonkoma- 9.5 inches
•South Huntington- 9.5 inches
•East Northport- 9.5 inches
•Lindenhurst- 9.2 inches
•Holtsville- 9 inches
•Orient- 9 inches
•Mount Sinai- 8.5 inches
•Bayport- 8.3 inches
•Babylon- 8.2 inches
•Bay Shore- 8.2 inches
•Centereach- 8.1 inches
•Shoreham- 8.2 inches
•MacArthur Airport- 8 inches
•West Islip- 8 inches
•West Babylon- 7.9 inches
•Jamesport- 7.7 inches
•Smithtown- 7.7 inches
•Sayville- 7.4 inches
•Southampton- 7 inches
•Ridge- 6.8 inches
•Amityville- 5.5 inches

With 3 hours of shoveling, I agree with the totals. It would have been nice if they let us know ahead of time that much was coming. There's a big difference between 4-6, and 10 inches. It was also supposed to start at 1 pm and last till about 7 pm, but it started at 9 am, and it came down for 12 hours not 6.

Hope everyone is safe and somewhat recovered.

gina - 1/31/2017 at 12:49 AM

Northeast a little snow tomorrow. After that snow on Superbowl Sunday could be 3-6" , then artic air after that.

[Edited on 1/31/2017 by gina]

gina - 2/2/2017 at 01:16 AM

Your weekly weather outlook. Next Tuesday there will be severe weather Arkansas and Southern Missouri. The northeast should get a reprieve from the predicted 3-6" of snow previously forecast for Super Bowl Sunday. t-week-the-big-story/70000736

gina - 2/8/2017 at 12:13 AM

Northeast -snowstorm/2430839568001

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gina - 2/9/2017 at 01:33 AM

Time Frames: ket-northeast-corridor-tomorrow/70000801

SE Pennsylvania, Maryland will start getting it by 1 am tonite. I hope our Pres. is sleeping by then.

LI and thereabouts 7 am - 10 am will be the worst of it. It will be a 6-8 hour ordeal. Thundersnow, lightning possible, and snow 1-3 inches per hour.

New England will start being pounded by noontime.

gina - 2/9/2017 at 01:37 AM

Piacere, 12-18" coming your way. rnight-blizzard-warning-suffolk-county/

piacere - 2/10/2017 at 12:07 AM

hey gina, how's things?

yeah, we got about a foot. lots of drifts. was really windy.

getting cold. wind chill tomorrow around zero.

stay warm.

Stephen - 2/10/2017 at 12:49 AM

just buttin' in, ski area socked in today -- been snowing continuously in mtns -- bitterly cold next 24 hrs., warmer Sat, then more weather predicted Sun. -- once all this weather clears skiing will be s-w-e-et

piacere - 2/11/2017 at 02:29 PM

I tried skiing...once. Sunday River, Maine. As cold as I've ever been, I think it was like 2 degrees. Every time I tried getting off the ski lift, I fell on my face. Every time I tried "skiing" I fell on my face. Mountain was a sheet of ice. An absolutely painful, uncomfortable experience. Never went ever again.

but if it's your thing, go for it!

Stephen - 2/11/2017 at 03:24 PM

it'll be a world of difference in the right conditions -- w/all this new snow (&a lot more coming tmrw nite too), give it a whirl on a sunny day, you'll have a blast! It's the bomb

gina - 2/11/2017 at 08:40 PM

This is our neck of the woods.

It was particularly bad for me because I did NOT follow my own advice. When I last looked at the maps the night before (radar), it seemed as though the heavy snow would not arrive till 10 am, so I thought I had plenty of time to get out to the gym and do a short workout. I never made it there. By 7:15 I was hit with a white out and it did not improve till noon time. White meaning you could not see what was on either side of the street, could not see traffic lights even with no one ahead of you. I turned around but it was too late. I made it to a shopping center and saw a store open so I went there to hang out till things improved, but they didn't. A nasty plow plowed me in while I was in the store, my defroster could not even keep the back window clear, much less could I see out the side windows with horizontal snow coming. Finally someone with a black pick up truck happened by, had mercy on me and plowed out the stuff I would not have even been able to shovel. The CEO of the store is going to hear from me. It was so bad on the road I could not get thru it. In the 5 hours it took me to traverse a 6 mile swath of road I did not see one plow, not one. I had to constantly pray for about the last few miles, because there was no way I was going to get thru that. When I finally got back to where I live, I could not get in the driveway. I had to shovel to barely get in. Later another nasty ass plowed several feet of snow right in back of my car. Too high, too packed in to shovel that down.

When I went out later that night to do a little more work, the cop who lives next door was out there with his snowblower aiming his snow directly at the side of my car. I did not yell, it was obvious what was happening. I just got in the car, sat quietly, and put on my Isis head chopping off looking ski mask just there watching him. For some reason he seemed to stop.

Yes I know it's all my fault. I did not follow my own advice, I should not have been on the road at 7 am, even though it wasn't bad then.

I hope it went better for everybody else, especially you Piacere.

gina - 2/11/2017 at 09:00 PM

hey gina, how's things?

yeah, we got about a foot. lots of drifts. was really windy.

getting cold. wind chill tomorrow around zero.

stay warm.

I hate to say this baby, but there's more coming for New England, a lot more soooon. Sunday into Monday. Hopefully the guess-timates for your area are low 1-3 or 3-6 and stay that way. Boston will get blasted. -to-bring-new-england-to-standstill-by-monday/70000826

Beautiful yet powerful storm off New England coast Monday.
Hurricane Force Winds ✔️
Rapid Deepening --> bomb ✔️
Huge waves

2 hours ago
Most recent "Euro" forecast model paints snowfall of 12-17" across Boston. 22-25" coastal Maine for Monday's blizzard

After Boston and points north get blasted Sunday night into Monday, there is another problem coming Wednesday. r-snowstorms-across-the-east-next-week/2430839568001

967 Millibars for the monster heading to Cape Cod and New England.

[Edited on 2/11/2017 by gina]

gina - 2/11/2017 at 09:32 PM

THREE MORE MAJOR SNOW STORMS? the-wild-weather-and-storm-potential/70000820

whippin post!

piacere - 2/12/2017 at 04:04 PM

it'll be a world of difference in the right conditions -- w/all this new snow (&a lot more coming tmrw nite too), give it a whirl on a sunny day, you'll have a blast! It's the bomb

I'm going to pass on that, brother. Me and skiing have parted ways...

piacere - 2/12/2017 at 04:08 PM


This is our neck of the woods.

It was particularly bad for me because I did NOT follow my own advice. When I last looked at the maps the night before (radar), it seemed as though the heavy snow would not arrive till 10 am, so I thought I had plenty of time to get out to the gym and do a short workout. I never made it there. By 7:15 I was hit with a white out and it did not improve till noon time. White meaning you could not see what was on either side of the street, could not see traffic lights even with no one ahead of you. I turned around but it was too late. I made it to a shopping center and saw a store open so I went there to hang out till things improved, but they didn't. A nasty plow plowed me in while I was in the store, my defroster could not even keep the back window clear, much less could I see out the side windows with horizontal snow coming. Finally someone with a black pick up truck happened by, had mercy on me and plowed out the stuff I would not have even been able to shovel. The CEO of the store is going to hear from me. It was so bad on the road I could not get thru it. In the 5 hours it took me to traverse a 6 mile swath of road I did not see one plow, not one. I had to constantly pray for about the last few miles, because there was no way I was going to get thru that. When I finally got back to where I live, I could not get in the driveway. I had to shovel to barely get in. Later another nasty ass plowed several feet of snow right in back of my car. Too high, too packed in to shovel that down.

When I went out later that night to do a little more work, the cop who lives next door was out there with his snowblower aiming his snow directly at the side of my car. I did not yell, it was obvious what was happening. I just got in the car, sat quietly, and put on my Isis head chopping off looking ski mask just there watching him. For some reason he seemed to stop.

Yes I know it's all my fault. I did not follow my own advice, I should not have been on the road at 7 am, even though it wasn't bad then.

I hope it went better for everybody else, especially you Piacere.

geeze girl, stay home, do some crunches, push ups, whatever. Don't be driving around in that. Next door neighbor probably figured you were ploiwed in anyway so what's a little more...

yeah, storm coming. Stay in the house, would ya?

gina - 2/12/2017 at 07:03 PM

Update storm for Boston tonite/tomorrow, also short update on the Wednesday Thursday possible storm, for LI, NYC etc. that one is now looking less likely (whoo-hoo!) r-snowstorms-across-the-east-next-week/2430839568001

[Edited on 2/12/2017 by gina]

gina - 2/14/2017 at 01:41 AM

February 20 -24, we need to watch, potential exists for MAJOR east coast snow. No it is not definite yet. We just have to be vigilant. We are now in winter.

Stephen - 2/23/2017 at 06:45 PM

We were -- wish like heck that forecast had been good --
instead, last week's plentiful snow/winter wonderland will be history by Saturday -- record warmth, flood watches in effect etc etc....too darned early for me

Wonder if it all might be connected to this blurb about the recent discovery of brave new cosmic worlds (from the Daily Galaxy):

NASA has just announced discover new solar system with ‘best chance yet of alien life’ .Life may have evolved on at least three planets in a newly discovered solar system just 39 light years from Earth, NASA has announced.​ Astronomers have detected no less than seven Earth-sized worlds orbiting a cool dwarf star known as TRAPPIST-1. The six inner planets lie in a temperate zone where surface temperatures range from zero to 100C. Of these, at least three are thought to be capable of having oceans, increasing the likelihood of life. No other known star system contains such a large number of Earth-sized and probably rocky planets.

gina - 2/23/2017 at 08:17 PM

Stephen, I heard the planets were in the Aquarius star system. That's kinda spooky, there's also some stuff about the Arabs, and this is true wanting to be able to go to Mars. The probes will be there by 2020 and they hope some colonization can occur by 2050. All I can think of is the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, Total Recall. OMG, prophecy!

Stephen - 2/24/2017 at 06:04 PM

"Sign up for your vacation today! With Travel Agent Doug Quaid....." no wait
great flick, & yes, prophetic -- maybe it won't be in our lifetime, but these new finds have "future colonization" written all over them -- the photos on the Daily Galaxy website are awesome

record warmth continues, topping out tomorrow w/mid 50s, making it 3rd straight day of 50 degrees-plus weather -- on a better note, ski resorts really did well this season -- it was snowy both at Christmas, & this week's economically-crucial Mass. school vacation week -- big crowds both times

gina - 2/25/2017 at 05:27 PM

Joe explains the weather coming up for March and why. We have a blocking High from Greenland in play.

The models he uses come from Tropical Tidbits website. (which is also what you should use and look at for hurricane weather. Levi Cowan's website. He rocks!)

gina - 3/1/2017 at 12:56 AM

WARNING: Massive Jet Stream T Storms & tornadoes TWO DAYS amage-outbreak-through-wednesday/70000990

Of course the Northeast has the warm weather 50's 60's and then Friday possibly snow. (40%).

Winter ain't over till it's over.

Stephen - 3/4/2017 at 07:47 PM

That's for sure -- Bitterly cold here today in northern NE -- been a completely off the wall winter -- snowstorm couple weeks ago, then warm weather & a lot of rain -- now this cold snap -- then upper 40s predicted early next week

some cosmic check-ins/interstellar intuitions reveal a pattern setting up for a mid March blizzard -- fueled by full moon, also cold air rushing down from Hudson Bay/Canadian maritime regions, colliding w/unsettled weather here -- & whammo, nor'easter -- much like March 1993 blizzard -- just doing my cyber snowdance

gina - 3/4/2017 at 07:50 PM

Global warming. moved-again-alaska-lack-of-snow

gina - 3/9/2017 at 09:44 PM

Winter is not quite done yet.

By: Bob Henson, 3:57 PM GMT on March 09, 2017

Under brilliant blue skies, an onslaught of high wind swept across the Great Lakes region on Wednesday, causing damage and disruption on par with a major winter storm or a severe thunderstorm complex. About 1 million customers lost power in Michigan alone, and more than 800,000 of those remained without electricity on Thursday morning. More than 100,000 others were affected in parts of Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York. It’s been the largest weather-relate...

(from Wunderground Category 6 blog).

Snow coming tomorrow to the northeast once again. Thunder, lightning, snow. and-rates-of-1-2-inches-per-hour/70001077

The snow total estimates for Friday's storm are all over the place. There's a big difference between 1-3 and 4-7. says 4-7"
NWS says 3-5"
Storm Team 4 says 2-4"
Joe Cioffi says 4-6"
Elliot Abrams says 1-3"

And then there are the European models that say 12".

The storm for next Tuesday can be 12-18+ inches. When winter is done then we get a month or two of quiet, then the OTHER season with torrential rain and squalls and 60+ mph winds. They want us to think this is normal, it's not.

Stephen - 3/10/2017 at 03:22 PM

Yes that's for sure -- winter is not quite done yet -- definitely lingering here -- 2nd straight weekend of bitterly cold weather predicted, after a midweek of upper 40s w/rain -- it's been that kind of pattern a lot this winter -- the frost layer has to be real deep

what a blow tho in western NY -- Buffalo & those places have snowy/windy winters anyway but this was way out there they said -- flattened in places

a little snow in northern NE, please

Stephen - 3/11/2017 at 04:02 PM

I don't know how wildlife survives late-winter extreme conditions (like today's) -- already weakened, exposed at all times to the weather, little foraging for food -- at their most vulnerable to predators

[Edited on 3/11/2017 by Stephen]

gina - 3/11/2017 at 07:02 PM

The wildlife just hide in the trees, caves or they flow south.

As to the Monday night into Tuesday storm, there are some variables between the GFS (American Model) and the European. We could get a lot of snow, a smaller amount (6" or less) or it could go out to sea. I am hoping it goes out to sea. week-for-the-northeast/f4bzi5yte6o0cnlleinxd2ssq527igk4

By the way TURN YOUR CLOCKS AHEAD THIS WEEKEND. It's that time again.

gina - 3/12/2017 at 09:30 PM

The storm for Tuesday night into Wednesday, that's right 24 hours of hell is named Stella. Can I hang out the window like Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire and scream STEL-LAAAAAA?

Hurricane force wind gusts w/cross coast for many hours from MD to New Eng thru Tues.
Central pressure falls from 1002 - 976 mb in 12/hrs. This 00z EC run considerably different than prev 12z but more closely matches 00z from last night. Almost 50-million could see 1-foot+.ECMWF 00z lowers boom on big cities "crippling" blizzard Tues-Wed. Blizzard rapidly intensifies from 1012 mb --> 987 mb in 24-hours, qualifies as "bomb" or in weather terms, bombogenesis. Snow + wind should "cripple" I-95 corridor Tuesday. Hi-res NAM-WRF (3-km) parallel model at 60-hrs right about time NYC is getting rocked. 3-5" per hour snowfall rates. Initial estimates of Nor'easter snowfall ❄ from weather models fairly certain on 18-24"+ Philly, NYC, Boston. Wash DC on edge

1-2 feet of snow, strong winds - coastal gusts to hurricane force. Behind blizzard Wednesday morning, strong Arctic high pressure pushes front and freezing line to Atlantic seaboard & south Georgia.

Do I need to look further? Piaceeeeeere!

Starts in DC around sunset Monday night.

Gets to Philly in the evening.

NYC - 2 AM - 5 AM, hard snow by 7 AM , 1-2" per hour.
Should be done 1 AM Tuesday (which is actually Wednesday morning).

BOSTON - 1 AM it will be done there.

Next storm, next Sunday, but nothing like this. After that more storms between 3/21, 23, 24.

[Edited on 3/12/2017 by gina]

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gina - 3/13/2017 at 10:24 PM

Not much has changed in the forecast except that Bernie is reporting on the sleet and the mixing. although the timing for the start of the snow has been moved up, saying it will start after 1 am, and by the rush hour (which is really 5 hours around here). The main accumulating snow will stop between 3-5 pm.

The worst of it is supposed to be 5 AM - 1 PM
3-5 PM the accumulating snow stops.
Light snow continues till 8 pm or so.

There will be more snow showers Wednesday morning particularly after 11 AM.

Henry's got the Big Daddy hat on. m-hits-through-tuesday/70001104 me-on-the-way/f4bzi5yte6o0cnlleinxd2ssq527igk4
Bernie's take on the storm.

Those in the Hudson Valley need to stay home. DO NOT VENTURE OUT 8 - 9 AM. JUST DON'T. I don't even want to repeat what I heard from another news source. (oh you people, more than 9 inches per hour possible during that hour).

Dr. McBride has a different forecast than the others.

[Edited on 3/13/2017 by gina]

[Edited on 3/13/2017 by gina]

piacere - 3/14/2017 at 01:13 AM

a few days ago I went and bought new fishing line, hooks, lures.

won't be much melting afterwards, going to stay pretty cold for a while...

nebish - 3/14/2017 at 02:51 AM

snow plow back on the truck...I'm ready, bring me big snow!

nebish - 3/14/2017 at 06:32 PM

Disappointing snowfall here...

pops42 - 3/14/2017 at 06:42 PM

It was 91 degrees here in southern az yesterday

piacere - 3/31/2017 at 02:15 PM

winter storm theseus.

rain here in our dysfunctional little corner of the world.

just north, worcester, amherst, etc., possibly 2 feet of snow.

happy spring.

gina - 4/1/2017 at 08:49 PM

New England and parts north have 3 more storms on the way. Don't put the shovel away till the end of April.

gina - 4/2/2017 at 11:47 PM

Severe weather Gulf states into Monday. tornadoes-hail-wind

As for the north, same scenario as last Friday, rain (torrential at times) coastal flooding. The mosquitos are already out, welcome to the OTHER season. We have two seasons here winter and OTHER.

gina - 4/4/2017 at 12:44 AM

The deluge part two continues for tomorrow. And another one is coming Thursday and Friday, since the government can control the weather, why don't they have some mercy on us already?

gina - 4/5/2017 at 10:25 PM

GEORGIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, ALABAMA ossible-today/70001317
I just counted 32 supercell storms that could produce tornadoes. Amazing

Henry Margusity‏ @HenryMargusity · 48m48 minutes ago

Now things are getting dangerous. Second wave of tornadoes coming in from the west with the cold front. Be safe
By the way Hot Lanta has a tornado watch till 10 pm tonite.
Tornado watch until 10pm EDT has been expanded to include metro Atlanta now. New info on @wsbtv.

Click on an area near you and get the truth.


[Edited on 4/5/2017 by gina]

gina - 4/5/2017 at 10:37 PM

NY AND NORTHEAST - What is coming and when:
Joe has more rain and for a longer duration than the other models. in-arrives-early-morning-hours/

Bernie says the 500 mb looks scary.

"Scary 500 mb Thu pm. Look at negative tilt into VA,90-105 kts of wind. At very least,widespread damaging squall line,worried about tornadoes"

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gina - 4/5/2017 at 10:40 PM r-Preparedness-Checklist.pdf

gina - 4/20/2017 at 10:46 PM

It's waaaay too late for April Fool's Day Jokes, honest to goodness, Tropical Storm warning In April - YEP

Tropical Storm Arlene Discussion Number 6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL012017
500 PM AST Thu Apr 20 2017

I have to add one more surprise to my long hurricane forecasting
career. Unexpectedly, the subtropical cyclone became a tropical
depression this morning, and then it intensified to a tropical
storm. This intensity estimate is based on the cloud pattern
presentation on satellite imagery which shows moderate thunderstorm
activity surrounding an eye-type feature, and a convective ring in
microwave imagery. Initial intensity is set at 40 kt, although
estimates from TAFB suggest that the winds could have reached 45 kt
around 1800 UTC. Since that time, the cloud pattern has deteriorated
somewhat and winds probably have diminished. Despite the
intensification, Arlene is still forecast by all global models to
become absorbed by a nearby developing extratropical cyclone on

Arlene is moving toward the west-northwest at 22 kt, while well
embedded in the fast flow surrounding the extratropical low. This
general motion around the low is expected until dissipation on

"It is expected to dissipate on Friday". If they are wrong we should all go and stick out heads out the window and scream Whippin' Post!

Piacere, rescue me......

gina - 5/11/2017 at 09:47 PM -week-the-weekend-bring-a-major-coastal-storm/70001624

here is also some news regarding hurricane season. Experts have said they think there will be less Atlantic based storms due to the el nino which will create wind shear. They have named the storms. Let's wait till the season which starts June 1st to think about all that.

gina - 5/12/2017 at 11:19 PM

Northeast storm for tomorrow. 3/4 inch of rain during the day, another 1-2 inches of rain in the evening (after 7 pm). Could be a total of 2-3 inches rain when it is over and done, could also be gale force winds along the shorelines like 35 knots.

And yes, in about a week or two, you may hear more about Investigation 19P, which if it becomes a Tropical Storm, will be named Ella. You know you'll get info here first. This is Ella. 19/1KMIRIMG/2017SH19_1KMIRIMG_201705121315.GIF

Happy Mothers Day to all who are Mothers, let the world pause and consider their importance.

[Edited on 5/12/2017 by gina]

gina - 5/17/2017 at 10:41 PM

Plain States warning tonite to-south-central-us-thursday/70001683

Heatwave for the north
NWS forecast has bumped up highs to 95°-96°F in hottest locales of New England on Thursday ... as far north as Maine.

Wisconsin had a swath of tornadoes that tore thru 50 miles of town. to-south-central-us-thursday/70001683

Texas still at risk for more super cell tornadoes.

IT AINT HOT EVERYWHERE - Denver will have Snow!

"Heaviest snow through this weekend will be just west of Denver -- over 3-feet likely. Mountain snows across Rockies under cold air mass."

Point and click on your area to see what's going on.

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gina - 5/20/2017 at 08:05 PM

Lots of good info here.

gina - 6/12/2017 at 11:35 PM

With the heat all over the country today, it is hard to imagine there is snow anywhere in the country, but there is. oming-nebraska

and yes June is the start of the season of you know what. -week

gina - 6/13/2017 at 11:42 PM

There's a storm called Calvin, the remnants of which will be coming thru the US

gina - 6/18/2017 at 08:36 PM

Keep a lookout in about 5 days.

[Edited on 6/18/2017 by gina]

StratDal - 6/18/2017 at 09:51 PM

Trade winds will be blowing in Hawaii. Aloha

pops42 - 6/18/2017 at 10:58 PM

Gonna be 115 degrees all week in S.E. AZ.

gina - 6/20/2017 at 08:31 PM

The first storm, Cindy will hit the Gulf Coast . Landfall 1 am Thursday Port Arthur/Galveston area.
Heavy rains coming before that even.

"On the forecast track, Cindy is expected to approach
the coast of southwest Louisiana late Wednesday or Wednesday night,
and move inland over western Louisiana and eastern Texas on

Maximum sustained winds are near 45 mph (75 km/h) with higher
gusts. Little change in strength is forecast before the system
reaches the coast on Thursday.

Tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 205 miles (335 km),
mainly to the north and east of the center.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 999 mb (29.50 inches).

RAINFALL: Cindy is expected to produce total rain accumulations of
6 to 9 inches with isolated maximum amounts of 12 inches over
southeastern Louisiana, southern Mississippi, southern Alabama, and
the Florida Panhandle through Thursday. Rainfall amounts of 3 to 5
inches with isolated maximum amounts of 6 inches can be expected
farther west across southwest Louisiana into southeast Texas through

STORM SURGE: Inundation of 1 to 3 feet above ground level is
possible along the coast in portions of the Tropical Storm Warning

TORNADOES: A tornado or two is possible this afternoon and tonight
from south-central Louisiana to the western Florida Panhandle. " indy-moving-toward-southwest-louisiana/
Joe's map and related video storm-cindy

Henry says a foot or rain for Mobile, the storm will actually come in Port Arthur/Galveston Texas as a strong Tropical Storm 60-80 mph winds, could even become a hurricane before it comes in. The rain fall amount with this will be a lot. And then of course when it is done beating up the coast, it will head northbound go into the Atlantic and well, Laylatul Qadr is coming Next Wednesday night into Thursday which is the night of power in Islam, which means we will not go down here the way we did with Sandy. evere-weather.html

Alabama has already declared a state of emergency and rightly so, a foot of rain coming to Mobile! fier=AL032017 03/OHCNFCST/2017AL03_OHCNFCST_201706201800.GIF

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gina - 6/20/2017 at 08:33 PM

The other one was named Brett but has downgraded into a Tropical Wave. That one would have been an Atlantic coast based storm, but this is Ramadan, the gates of hell are closed for the month!

But here is after landfall with Cindy. 17/track_late/aal03_2017062012_track_late.png

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gina - 6/22/2017 at 05:47 PM

You knew somehow it had to pass thru here didn't ya?

Whippin' Post!

gina - 6/22/2017 at 06:24 PM

4-6 inches rain Ohio Valley, KY, WV flash flooding expected ck-of-cindy.html

gina - 6/22/2017 at 07:22 PM

solar winds have been causing earthquakes, and they are also going to help revitalize Brett, the storm that was supposed to have been over and done with. IF so, Brett could become a Cat 1 heading for the Gulf, worse impacts than Cindy.

gina - 6/24/2017 at 08:39 PM
Tropical Storm Bret and Solar WInds June 23, 2017
listen to this, it explains why there are earthquakes, radio waves effecting the ionosphere etc.

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gina - 6/30/2017 at 11:31 PM

Potential for an East Coast Atlantic based hurricane coming within the next two weeks. tlantic-while.html ntion-to.html

Remarks: Major hurricane means Cat 3. The most recent video (the second one) says it could be off the Outer Banks of NC by 7-14-17, it could go out to sea after that (and he thinks it would), but if not.....

Just lettin' ya know to keep aware tis the season.

gina - 7/6/2017 at 05:43 PM

Here's the storm. ts

gina - 7/19/2017 at 10:32 PM

Henry hit a lick for a fellow weatherman, Jason Bowman who has a new site called Weather Optics. So I'm passin' it on to all you weather whippin' posters

Jason has a sense of humor like many of the people around here. 'John's weather forecasting stone'

[Edited on 7/19/2017 by gina]

gina - 7/19/2017 at 10:44 PM

Yeah I know, how long for the heat?

Joe Cioffi says SEVEN MORE DAYS NYC. -away/

And here's your nationwide temp map

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gina - 7/19/2017 at 10:54 PM

New Jersey and the Midwest will be in the HEAT tomorrow. heat warning

The National Weather Service in Mount Holly has issued an
Excessive Heat Warning, which is in effect from noon Thursday
until 8:00 PM Friday.

* TEMPERATURES...Maximum temperatures are forecast to be mainly
in the middle 90s on both Thursday and Friday. There will not be
much relief at night with low temperatures in the 70s.

* HEAT INDEX VALUES...Heat index values are expected to reach the
98 to 103 degree range during the afternoon hours on Thursday
and Friday.

MISSOURI - Your heat index is 105 - 110, Thursday, Friday till Saturday afternoon. heat warning

gina - 7/20/2017 at 11:12 PM

The weather is controlled from Antartica? That's what some say.

gina - 8/5/2017 at 12:26 AM

There is something that has an 80% chance of development for the Atlantic.

AL 99 is now believed to change course so it would not come up the Atlantic coast; will keep a look out. 17/track_gfs/aal99_2017080506_track_gfs.png

It'll be at the Bahamas around August 11th.

There are more after that. No, I'm not ready either.

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gina - 8/7/2017 at 10:41 PM

Now they're back to thinking AL99 will be an Atlantic based storm. 17/track_gfs/aal99_2017080712_track_gfs.png

Piacere, get ready just in case!

The noaa people aren't on this yet, but you know we won't wait, we will find out as far ahead of time as possible. IF we could be looking at a hurricane next week, we need to know NOW. The noaa people don't seem to know about New York traffic.

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gina - 8/12/2017 at 02:14 PM

There have been people sending bad Eclipse glasses that will not protect your eyes. Even in NY, it will be 75% visible so you need to have appropriate protection.

If you get glasses on the cheap and want to know if they are the real deal, one reporter said hold them up to an LED light (you know those awful squiggly light bulbs), if you can see the bulb thru the glasses, the glasses WILL NOT protect your eyes during the eclipse.

gina - 8/17/2017 at 11:28 PM

Multiple storms are possible this week in the Atlantic as the tropics heat up: tems-may-continue-as-new-features-bear-watching/70002455

There's a bunch of stuff out there, 3 waves etc. And remember Monday is the Solar Eclipse, so get ready and do not stare at the sun without protection. Even here in NY 75% of it is visible.

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gina - 8/17/2017 at 11:41 PM

Eclipses Timing for Monday MAP -to-coast-when-will-you-see-the-total-solar-eclipse/70002446

gina - 8/19/2017 at 06:59 PM

NASA provides info on the eclipse for Monday. I will redact my other remarks.

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gina - 8/25/2017 at 10:44 PM

HARVEY 8-25-17

In a way it's not fair to compare one hurricane to another, because if we say this one will be worse than another one, we minimize the loss and misery others have gone thru. What I will say is that Harvey will be BAD BAD BAD.

What we know so far.

943 MB

Arrival times 2 Am coastline, ected-be-cat-3-landfall ts

Buoys link
There are already 20 foot waves 60 nm west of Freeport Texas, and the storm is not going to make landfall till 1 am – 2 am.

Henry’s finding winds up to 149 knots!
“Harvey 100 mph winds are going fairly far inland. This has Andrew disaster written all over it. Oh my god 150mph winds at 4000feet!”
Matt Reagan 29 minutes ago.
Hurricane #Harvey making a last minute run at Category 4 strength, and stadium eye feature showing up
eyewall replacement today, heavy thunderstorms and vortices wrapped around the eye. That means tornadoes.
check in on Levi’s site. He’s the man. p;pkg=mslp_pcpn_frzn&runtime=2017082518&fh=96&xpos=0&ypos=9 7
Notice that 96 hrs out from now, it is still sitting there over Texas. This s bad.

Say some prayers for those who have not left there but should have. Anyone who can leave should try. It will not hit will 2 AM, which means you can still get out. This is not your normal storm, if you are there GET OUT NOW.

gina - 8/26/2017 at 04:02 PM

It went onshore in Rockford as a Cat. 4 - It will sit over Texas and rain for a week, and the severe thunderstorm bands are over Houston. (Right now the rains will last at least till Thursday next week).

" Current forecasts suggest that Harvey could be barely 100 miles from its current location by next Thursday. This is forecast to result in heavy rainfall of unprecedented magnitude for such a large area, with widespread storm totals of 15-30 inches, and isolated amounts up to 40 inches"

After it is done in Texas, rains will be going to: 17/track_gfs/aal09_2017082606_track_gfs.png

Also found a new weather page to add to our info. Mike's got great stuff. w=1280&h=720&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0

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gina - 8/26/2017 at 07:19 PM

Rockport and Port Aransas have suffered a lot of damage, Corpus Christi not so much.

As expected gas production is effected, and now guestimates are that the prices may go up 5-25 cents per gallon.

Tom Kloza, an analyst for the Oil Price Information Service, predicts that prices could rise by up to 25 cents a gallon, but that an increase of 5 cents to 15 cents is more likely, assuming that the hurricane doesn’t cause lasting damage to refineries.

As of Friday, the U.S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement said workers had been removed from 86 of the 737 manned platforms used to pump oil and gas from beneath the Gulf.
The agency estimated that platforms accounting for about 22 percent of oil production and 23 percent of natural gas output in the Gulf had been shut down.

Exxon Mobil closed two of its platforms and was evacuating all personnel in the expected path of the storm, said spokeswoman Suann Guthrie. Shell halted operations on a big floating oil-production platform, and Anadarko evacuated workers and shut down four facilities in the western Gulf while continuing to operate those east of the storm’s predicted path.

On shore, ConcoPhillips stopped all operations in the Eagle Ford shale formation, which lies across a swath of South Texas inland from the Gulf. A company spokeswoman cited safety and potential disruptions in getting oil and gas from the wells to market during the storm.

gina - 8/26/2017 at 08:28 PM


There is already devastation in Texas and there is more to come because the rain will continue till next Thursday. The Palacious Beaches are gone. Port Aransas has an RV/Trailer park that had "100% devastation". Pioneer Trailer Park. They are currently doing search and rescue operations there because 5,000 people stayed in the town Port Aransas and did not leave.

There 300,000 people statewide SO FAR with no power and that number may rise as the rains flood out more places over the coming days. Matagorda Residents who left cannot go home due to the power loss. Parts of I-10 are no longer passable. Corpus Christi can expect 30 MORE inches of rain on top of what has already come because of the duration of the storm.

People are still evacuating because of the rains to come in Abilene and parts north. Houston is expected to flood.

Sources for Info. omes-at-crystal-beach s-for-hurricane-evacuees-to-keep-livestock-trailers/798372605 nts-assess-damage/612728216

High Water locations ey/467355690 eturn-due-to-power-outage/467674782 987 7

Matt Dougherty - Journalist.
Daniel Gotera – Katy, TX arch-and-rescue-underway/467676380

REMARKS: This will go down as a devastation for Texas. What happens to people who can never return to their homes, because 5 more days of rain comes and their homes are under water? Can Texas built a meaningful sea wall to protect the coastline from future storms?

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gina - 8/27/2017 at 07:59 PM

AL 92 East Coast - it should stay out to sea. If it doesn't there will be reports of some sort here on the whippin' post. 17/track_gfs/aal92_2017082712_track_gfs.png

And it will be up to 108 degrees in California.

I think a lot of us just cannot even speak much about Harvey because the effect and damage will just be surreal. Those of us who live along a coastline are also thinking about what if scenarios. I remember when hurricane Irene was coming up here as a Cat 3 and nobody took it seriously. Dickey and his band even came up here to play a gig at the Winery right along the water in Manhattan. That man has the balls to stare the devil in the face and tell him to go eff himself he came to play his music and nothing's gonna stop him. The storm 'brushed' North Carolina and came up, but spared Long Island and actually did more damage where I was, stuck in Pennsylvania, 13 inches of rain in the mountains is much different than in a sea level city/town.

I feel bad for those people in Texas, some of whom will not have a home to go back to for a long time, and maybe not at all. Pray for those people.

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gina - 8/28/2017 at 10:20 PM

There are some observations coming in within the last hour.

Brenden Moses‏ @Cyclonebiskit · 1h1 hour ago
#Harvey trying to transition back into a tropical system with convection redeveloping near center and shedding frontal features.

#Harvey is currently located <100 miles away from where it made landfall as a Category 4 hurricane nearly 3 days ago.

Coast Guard video



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gina - 8/28/2017 at 11:05 PM

It is expected to make a second landfall on Wednesday in the areas already hit. The second hit will only be as a Tropical Storm and will only bring 2-4" more rain.

TV station KHOU went off the air due to flooding in their studio. They were forced to evacuate.

Gov. Abbott activated the entire state's National Guard.

The city of Dickinson has been completely evacuated.

gina - 8/29/2017 at 07:57 PM

Atlantic coastline: he-east-coast

gina - 8/29/2017 at 09:32 PM

Possible something for East Coast near 9-11 or shortly thereafter. It is called AL 93. It just came off Africa and is heading across the ocean. Too soon to say anything, just be aware. 17/track_gfs/aal93_2017082912_track_gfs.png

gina - 8/31/2017 at 08:37 PM

ATLANTIC COAST - The storm is called Irma now and it will be a CAT 4 by the end of this week. c
in their 12Z and 18Z Wednesday runs that Irma would be a major Category 3 hurricane with 115 mph winds by Monday, and I think this is a reasonable forecast. -atlantic-this-week-will-it-affect-the-us/70002598
Bernie's take on it. Impact zones potentially FLORIDA or along the EAST COAST. 20.html
Cat 4 in a weeks time.

Remarks: CAT 4 would destroy NY, even CAT 3 would be enough to knock out power for months etc. Being that it would arrive 10 days out from yesterday, that would be 9-10-17 or if it slowed down, 9-11-17. Maybe God has a different take on the 'war on terror' and the official story from that day in 2001. The punishments that come upon this nation will be his answer to the lies of the elite.

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gina - 8/31/2017 at 08:39 PM

P.S. There may be another storm in the Gulf for that region next week, and I'm not talking about Irma.

gina - 8/31/2017 at 08:59 PM

IRMA - Will be CAT 5 by 9-4-17, winds 171 miles per hour sustained, gusts to 200 miles per hour, at least 30 inches of rain. This is projections from the GFS and the weather channel. Impact, models now suggest Carolinas/Georgia coastline. This is not written in stone, it is the projection at this time. Be aware, try to start making a plan just in case. You cannot sit there in a Cat 5 hurricane or even a Cat 4.

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gina - 9/2/2017 at 07:46 PM

Navy Map Shows Entire Planet Blanketed with HAARP Anomaly, Hurricane Irma on Track to East Coast

Remarks: Is someone manipulating these storms?

gina - 9/2/2017 at 08:09 PM

Why there is uncertainty as to where Irma will go. Levi explains some of the factors. urricane-could-impact-leeward-antilles-next-week/

Joe explains the troughs also and shows the models. Carolinas/Georgia or Chesapeake Bay, Virginia.

Remarks: Long Island has 3 million people, NYC has 11 million. They never tell us to evacuate because nobody wants 14 million people taking to the roads trying to find someplace to go. If the models still look like Chesapeake Bay in a couple of days, heed the warning yourself.

[Edited on 9/2/2017 by gina]

gina - 9/3/2017 at 10:01 PM

9-3-17 Updates -nobody wants to tell you, but there are models and they say WILIMINGTON, NC is where it will hit. There are 54 foot waves with this storm.

Newest info suggest impact will be Wilmington, NC as a high Cat 3 - Cat 4. Chesapeake Bay is also possible, but it looks like Wilimington would be the target. And yes as it goes inland it would go over Raleigh. The videos below explain the troughs and stuff going on. As things changes, I'll put it up. The regular news will never tell you anything far enough ahead of time to be helpful. Everybody is trying not stress people out.
135 miles per hour winds, 54-56 foot waves.
Joe Cioffi 5 pm 3 hrs. ago.

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gina - 9/5/2017 at 07:24 PM

What it looks like today.

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gina - 9/5/2017 at 08:00 PM

Here are some cool sites with model info.;-79.5;3&l=wind&t=20170911/18,40.816,-73.118,5
Go to the hurricane models and see what they have.

Remarks: At this point it looks like FLORIDA, but then some of the models have it on the east coast and then coming north. I saw a model Sunday, the one that had Wilmington as the point of impact, but after that it had it going to Washinngton, DC, so anything is possible. I remember when Hurricane Floyd was coming up here and they said there was no way it wouldn't, and then, it didn't. Same with Isabel. God can control and stop anything and steer it someplace else. Just pay attention, check on the models, get yourself a notebook, and start thinking strategically if you have to evacuate.

Strategic Thinking:

What do I need to take with me?

Make a list. Look at the stuff you use in your home now, in the morning, afternoon, evening, that's stuff you need.

Where can I go and how long do I need to be there?

What things will I need when I get someplace else, where are these places located? (banks, drug stores, food housing), get some paper maps in case the GPS goes down.

Be cognizant if your area is destroyed and uninhabitable after the storm, you need clothes etc. Try to take some totes with you, if you have an extra day or two, check out storage units in other locations and try to move some of your stuff in case you cannot come back.

Also get some coolers, ice packs stick them in your freezer now, get some tupperware, make yourself some stuff to eat before you leave, get ice from the local convenience store, there may be traffic jams. Take plastic bags (supermarket fruit/vegetable) with twist ties. You will have to put your garbage someplace so you don't attract bugs if there are no garbage cans along your journey. Take some toilet paper and paper towels, large garbage bags. Try to have a small shovel IF you end up having to use the woods as bathroom facilities, you have to bury that stuff 5 feet deep and preferably 16 feet from whereever you may have to camp out to prevent it from contaminating water sources. Yes get a tarp, take a camp chair with you, and some basic camping equipment just in case. Get a small hand held water purifier in case you have to camp in the woods. Devastation is different than let's just go to somebody's house for a few days. Think the best, prepare for the worst.

Portable device chargers, charged up. You need that.

Have you looked at a service provider map to see if your phone carrier has service in the areas you may need to evacuate to? Here in NY, if you go upstate only Tracfone works, the others don't.

Just make your list(s), and make a plan.

[Edited on 9/5/2017 by gina]

gina - 9/5/2017 at 08:47 PM ns-as-hurricane-irma-intensifies-to-a-category-5-storm/ar-AArl7eG?li=BBnb7K z

While the storm’s exact path is unclear, the Capital Weather Gang’s meteorologists issued similarly unnerving warnings of Irma being “likely to make landfall somewhere in Florida over the weekend” and saying that “the impact could be catastrophic.”

Scott has activated 100 members of the Florida National Guard and said he had directed all 7,000 members to report for duty on Friday. On Monday, Scott signed an executive order declaring an emergency in each of Florida’s 67 counties, pointing to forecasts at the time warning that Irma could make landfall in the southern or southwestern parts of the state and “travel up the entire spine of Florida.”

“Hurricane Irma is a major and life-threatening storm and Florida must be prepared,” Scott said in a statement accompanying the order.

gina - 9/5/2017 at 09:02 PM

Bernie explains the trough, which will determine west coast of FL, or east coast FL and North Carolina. hz3tc4vpg00sohzxka0f3m?SearchForm-input=irma%20headed%20toward%20florida rricane-record
180 mile per hour winds this morning. c=twsrc%5Etfw&

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gina - 9/5/2017 at 09:19 PM

Joe Cioffi is saying that the European models have a slight inaccuracy which of course makes the difference in the track. atastrophic-category-5-not-6-185-mph-winds/

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gina - 9/7/2017 at 11:02 PM

9-6 video from Anguilla and St. Maarten t-from-dangerous-irma

Timing for Winds in Florida -strength tents
Rain totals - bear this in mind if you are in Georgia and the Carolinas parts of the storm have 15-20 inches of rain in it. It has to dump that somewhere.

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gina - 9/7/2017 at 11:06 PM

Some good advice to anyone stuck staying in Florida, there is no gas for the cars in some places to get out.

If you are in the FL keys and Can not evacuate, Call (305) 517-2480 to get help

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gina - 9/7/2017 at 11:10 PM


Based on size of Hurricane #Irma + Category 4/5 landfall winds/surge & track up I-75 to Atlanta, are we contemplating a Trillion $ disaster?

Prior to that Miami is slated to be hit 72 hrs. from now with 910mbs.®ion=11L&pkg =mslp_wind&runtime=2017090718&fh=54&xpos=0&ypos=150

Anybody along the Georgia coastline areas needs to get out now.

Impact Savannah 2 pm Monday. Cat 3 120 miles per hour.

There is still some difference in models. The European has Irma going thru the middle of Florida, while the GFS has it hit Miami then go out and go up along the coast till it comes in at Savannah.

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gina - 9/7/2017 at 11:35 PM


8-12 INCHES FOR MIAMI, THE STORM HAS UP TO 24 INCHES OF RAIN IN IT. w=1280&h=720&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0

gina - 9/7/2017 at 11:38 PM


gina - 9/9/2017 at 05:50 PM

9-9-17 SAT

Most recent info. puts Tampa as the point of impact. w=1280&h=720&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0
Rainfall thru Tuesday w=1280&h=720&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0
Storm surge inundation map tents

The Florida Information Emergency Line is 1-800-342-3557. Lines are very busy, so please keep calling to get through!

Reuters Reporter, Producer in Miami, Justin Mitchell:

MSNBC - Andy Sullivan

FURTHER REMARKS: I don't want to tell you what I have seen on some of the modelling with Jose, how much is 250 knots? And there is another one after Jose. For now, prayers go out to Floridians, and Atlanta it will be coming your way after it is done with Florida. There were reports that Macon was already a big parking lot, so that may get worse since 6.5 million of the 20 million residents of Florida were now told to leave due to irma. 20 million residents, a 10 foot storm surge, 6.5 million told to evacuate.

gina - 9/10/2017 at 11:29 PM
Made landfall at marco island 3:30 pm Cat 3 Fox 4 news 11:30 mark the wind

These news media sources have good info.

WFLA Tampa a-bay-area/

Remarks: It could have been worse, IF Irma hit Miami head on as was anticipated. So maybe the govt. did steer it away from the shorelines as much as possible. One other thing going on is that we may be in the beginning stages of the pole shift. Which will cause more intense storms to happen. Are you aware that there was a quake yesterday along the Juan de Fuca plate that caused the tectonic plate boundary to move 32 feet? Are you also aware that when the pole shift happens, and some say 9-23-17 is the date it is expected to, when the shift happens, the new pole will be off Brazil? That in and of itself will cause all kinds of weather changes. The press is not supposed to say 'climate change' anymore, they have some other catch phrase but all this stuff is going on.

Jose will become a powerful storm and it will be in the Atlantic potential strike date would be the 17th Carolina or NY IF it does not turn. There is still time on this one, but people along points North Carolina and north should begin considering what if they need to get out the way. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS GOING TO HIT EITHER OF THOSE TWO PLACES, JUST KEEP A LOOKOUT AND BE READY IN CASE....

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gina - 9/11/2017 at 10:38 PM

RE: JOSE, one of the models has it coming pretty far north by 9-17-17 before heading out to sea. We will have to be on the lookout.

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gina - 9/12/2017 at 11:25 PM


The axis of the earth has changed. This in turn effects the weather due to the gravitational pulls, the geomagnetic grid etc. The people who noticed it back in 2015 were the Inuits who live along the Artic. What NASA did with the info. is not known. Each of the strong earthquakes we have changes the axis of the earth. I heard recently that the Mexico quake moved the Juan De Fuca tectonic plate 10 or 12 feet. The large quakes in previous years in Fukushima, Christchurch, New Zealand and Chile, also effected the axis of the earth, which effects the rotation etc. When the pole shift happens people are now saying the new pole will be in Brazil. Others say we may be in for a new ice age coming. tml
Moon not where it should be rotated to the right, or earth has rotated to the left. The Torah even said there would be changes in the moon and it gave the year which translates to 2011.
polar shift on the moon Jan 2011 (the music is awful turn your sound down)

UPDATE 9-13-17

There is someone who has figured out what happened. The poles have moved. The new north pole at this time is off of London, it is closest to Stonehenge. The new south pole is at New Zealand. The moon flipped on December 11, 2011, 1 1/2 hours later it had rotated 180 degrees. Antarctica shifted 90 degrees. The poles are not going to stay in these locations forever. Eventually the new North Pole will be in Russia and the new south pole will be in Cape Town, South Africa. When the land changes occur, the part of Africa that has Capetown in it, will move and shift going to the position that Antarctica is in now.

The thing is this, we are used to the equator being in the middle of our earth. The new equator will not be there. The magnetic grids of the planet will be changed. This has already effected airports where they have had to adjust where their landing strips are because the equipment the pilots fly by is no longer accurate to the runways, when they set the course for the plane, it has to adjust for these changes.

People keep talking about climate change noticing the weather changes, but it is not due to climate change like too much smog going up there influencing the weather. The problem is the tilt of the planet has changed, which means it does not face the sun the same way. The planet rotates on it's axis and it is now tilted differently. This effects the crops and food sources, it effects the ice in the arctic etc. which is melting. This melting ice changes the salinity of the oceans, which effects the storms including hurricanes because there is this symbiosis between the oceans and the sky/atmosphere.

Greenland experienced differences in their daylight and why the Inuits up there in the arctic are getting more hours of daylight. This is due to the tilt of the earth changing and putting us closer to the sun.

The tilt of our planet is now 92,000,000 miles from the sun. Previously it was 94.2 million miles. So now we are closer to the sun in certain places. North America, Europe, China, India, reportedly will become "unbearably hot" in the what is normally our winter time (January). Yes the climate will change, but it is due to the change in the axis, tilt of the earth, as well as the rotation.

The new north pole is currently located at North 51 degrees, 22.949 East, 12.922 degrees. It is located off Herne Bay, England at 23.4 degrees.

The new poles are temporary, it is still migrating. Nibiru has caused this.

Why is this happening? It is how God will destroy the peoples he said he would destroy. The heat will destroy the crops, famine, pestilence will occur, the heat will kill many and some people will freeze to death if they remain in areas that will no longer support life.

I will gather more info. to expand on this.

Axis shifts have happened before. Here is info. on one of them.

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gina - 9/13/2017 at 10:57 PM

JOSE - it will not be doing anything that could be a threat to any land mass till late next week and it may not come in at all. it is complicated. Bernie understands all the possibilities and points out what is going on. I did see a model that had it just off the Jersey shore on Thurs. the 21st, but it is too early to say that is what will happen. If it did go in there, it would be in the same areas as Sandy, so we do need to check in on this storm. 4bzi5yte6o0cnlleinxd2ssq527igk4?SearchForm-input=jose%20could%20impact%20us %20late%20next%20week

gina - 9/17/2017 at 09:39 PM

JOSE - timing and locations and effects. n-new-england

The storm is expected to track southeast of Long Island on Tuesday afternoon and southeastern New England by Tuesday night into Wednesday. Due to the influences discussed above, Jose will be a larger storm by the time it comes close to these areas, however the current forecast from WeatherOptics meteorologist keep the worst impacts off the coast at this time.

Expected to be a tropical storm by Tuesday, Jose will likely produce winds around 30 to 45 mph with gusts up to 60 mph along the immediate New Jersey, Long Island, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and southeastern Massachusetts coasts. Rainfall amounts will range from 2 to 3 inches around Nantucket, 1 to 2 inches over the rest of southeastern Massachusetts, and 0.5 to 1 inch of rain along the immediate New Jersey, Long Island, Connecticut, and Rhode Island coasts. Minor to moderate coastal flooding will also be a threat along the New Jersey coast up to southeastern Massachusetts, along with a very strong rip tide.

Remarks: As to the others up and coming, Maria and Lee,

Maria WEDNESDAY 2 p.m. PUERTO RICO CAT 4 130 miles per hour.
THURSDAY 2 p.m. DOMINICAN REPUBLIC CAT 2 up to 110 miles per hour.

I'm not going beyond that yet.

Update: Maria will NOT go thru Florida, it will turn and come up in the Atlantic and is not supposed to hit any land.

Update 9-21-17 After Maria is done gong thru the Carribean Islands and the Bahamas, it is believed that it will go out in the ocean and not strike any other land.

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gina - 9/24/2017 at 11:22 PM

Mexico is facing another large quake, in the 6 range, according to an earthquake prediction specialist.
Okinawa and Guam may have quakes in the mid to high 4 ranges.
The Agean sea, and other areas also, even potentially Tennessee and Virginia in the 3-4's within 3-4 range.

gina - 9/26/2017 at 11:55 PM

Wednesday 9-27-17 a 65% increase in geomagnetic storms triggering earthquakes
Thursday 9-28-17 an 80% increase in geomagnetic storms.

Mount Agong, a 10,000 foot volcano in Bali erupting. Evacuations issued. Magma moving towards the surface.

Monaro Volcano in Vanuato Level 4

Ring of Fire earthquakes - Japan 5.6 Hokkaido
5.4 Tonga in Havelulob

Mexico continuing to wuake 4.3 in Oxaca in La Blanca
and Guerrero in Comitancillo and Tepantilian
5.3 in Indonesia Irian Jaya Barat Soray

gina - 9/29/2017 at 12:11 AM



7.1 possible between 9-28-17 and 9-30-17 for Mexico, same areas as hit recently.

Additionally, there is a system (storm/hurricane) that is expected to form near and go over Cuba. It can either go over Florida and come up the east coast, or go in the Gulf. What is eerie is that there was prophecy from 2015 which says that Houston will be destroyed by water, Los Angeles by earthquake.

gina - 9/29/2017 at 09:57 PM

Winter coming early to Siberia.

gina - 9/29/2017 at 10:33 PM

Hurricane and Storm wise:

186 hours out from now: Southern Florida has a storm to deal with, that is expected to go up the east coast of Florida.®ion=us&pkg=m slp_pcpn_frzn&runtime=2017092918&fh=186&xpos=0&ypos=90

This is AL 9 - Gulf storm 92017/track_gfs/aal99_2017092912_track_gfs.png

You have two storms.

Also, after the first week of October, more storms are expected to be coming off Africa.

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gina - 9/29/2017 at 10:50 PM

Nibiru is Jupiter - the Sumerians (yes from the Bible) were from Jupiter.

gina - 10/5/2017 at 12:19 AM

Yes there will be another hurricane, will be named NATE, it is believed at this time to be heading to either into the Gulf near New Orleans, or near the Panhandle of Florida.

Impact Sunday 2 pm or thereabouts. ts

I looked at the storm this morning, now the guestimates are that it will be more than a low range Cat 1.

More later, I am exhausted, but at least you got a little heads up.

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gina - 10/5/2017 at 10:51 PM

10-5-17 THURSDAY

Apparently there is info. suggesting that the storm will reach CAT 4 status, yet most of the other weather people are STILL saying it would hit the Florida Panhandle as a Cat 1, 75 mph storm on Sunday, so I don't know what is going on.

What we know right now:

Nate made landfall over northeastern Nicaragua late Thursday morning as a tropical storm with 40 mph winds, and tropical storm warnings are up for much of the coast of Nicaragua and Honduras. However, the main danger to Central America from Nate will be torrential rains: 15 – 20” in Nicaragua, 5 – 10” in Panama and Costa Rica, and 4 - 8” in Honduras and the eastern Yucatan Peninsula. Much of the heavy rain in Nicaragua, Coast Rica, and Panama will occur on the Pacific side, as Nate’s large circulation pulls moisture from the Pacific across Central America and into the Southwest Caribbean. Satellite rainfall estimates show that the heaviest rains from Nate thus far have been on the Pacific side of Costa Rica and Panama, where over 8” of rain has fallen over the past 7 days.

Once Nate finishes its traverse of northeastern Honduras on Thursday evening and emerges into the Western Caribbean, the storm will be in a very favorable environment for intensification. Nate will be passing over an area of very high ocean heat content (OHC) in the Western Caribbean, with very warm waters that extend to great depth. Thursday SHIPS model Rapid Intensification Index gave Nate a 40% chance of being a Category 1 hurricane with 75 mph winds by 8 am Friday, 12 hours before it will make its closest pass to the Cozumel/Cancun area. The SHIPS model Rapid Intensification Index from 12Z Thursday morning showed a 48% chance of Nate gaining 65 knots of strength by Sunday, which would bring it to the Category 3 threshold (115 mph winds.)

By the time Nate reaches the United States, its quick movement will help limit the risk of extreme rainfall totals. A swath of 3 – 6” can be expected within about 150 miles of Nate’s center, from the Gulf Coast north across the Appalachians to parts of New York and/or New England. -gulf-coast-strengthening-hurricane

gina - 10/5/2017 at 11:26 PM

Folks, it ain't looking so much like landfall for the Florida Panhandle.

GFS Run 60 hours out - Louisiana p;pkg=mslp_pcpn_frzn&runtime=2017100518&fh=60&xpos=0&ypos=0

As to why there is discrepancy among the models. The European thinks it would be the Florida Panhandle, but the GFS does not. It gets complicated because of troughs, windsheer etc. Levi did a very detailed video yesterday about the variables.

Ryan also thinks it looks more like New Orleans for this storm.

gina - 10/5/2017 at 11:31 PM

EXPECTED IMPACT: NEW ORLEANS CAT 4 62017/track_late/aal16_2017100512_track_late.png
New Orleans

gina - 10/6/2017 at 10:50 PM


The meteorologists today have said they believe NATE will come onshore as a Cat 1 or weak Cat 2. The impact zone is still believed to be New Orleans.

This was Bernie's video from yesterday. ate-saturday-night/f4bzi5yte6o0cnlleinxd2ssq527igk4
from 10-5-17 rengthening-nate
Cat 1-2

A storm surge warning is up for the Gulf Coast from Morgan City, LA to the Alabama/Florida border, as well as along the northern and western shores of Lake Pontchartrain. In these areas, 4 – 7 feet of inundation were predicted by NHC in their 11 am EDT Friday advisory, assuming that Nate were to arrive during high tide.
I sure hope they don't make Jim Cantore stand out there in NATE to show people how bad it is. It's Yom Kippur, have mercy on him, I'm sure he is repentent.

Also, there is another system within 5 days there is a 70% chance of it forming into a storm in the Atlantic quite a bit North of Florida. Too soon to start speculating on that yet, just be aware it is there.

Remarks: Why all these storms? Well it could be the folks who believe they will "own the weather" by 2025, or it could be God who told you in the Bible that men would faint from the roaring of the seas during the tribulation times. When I look these hurricanes, I look to see if it looks perfectly formed, those are the ones I think are from God, the ones that are perfectly symmetrical, the ones that confound the weather scientists who say the storms are not doing what they should be doing because God controls and does what he wants to. Bottom line is, the coastlines will be pummelled and hammerred if not by the 'we own the weather' people, then consider it God who is starting to unleash his punishments on an unrepentant nation.

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gina - 10/7/2017 at 05:29 PM

NATE expected to be a CAT 2 when it strikes evacuation/story?id=50339836

Inundation map and how high they think the water will go. you can see the areas where more than 6 feet storm surge inundation is probable. roaches-gulf-coast

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gina - 10/12/2017 at 12:28 AM


Asteroids coming by increase the chance of earthquakes. Heads Up west coast!

gina - 10/13/2017 at 11:31 PM

Are we overreacting to the hurricanes? Nope.

Including Ophelia, there have been 15 tropical storms, 10 hurricanes and five major hurricanes so far in the 2017 Atlantic season, AND

"A strong tropical system centered a few hundred miles east of the Leeward Islands is being watched for possible development late in the upcoming weekend or early next week," Kottlowski said. Kottlowski anticipates that the only landmass that would see direct impacts from this system if it does develop would be Bermuda.

"I think there will be at least two more tropical storms, of which one or two can become a hurricane into December," Kottlowski said. "There is still a chance of one more major (Category 3) hurricane."

Remark: Hurricanes in December? Whippin post! tional-tropical-storms-hurricanes-prior-to-december/70002956

gina - 10/13/2017 at 11:46 PM

Space - Unprecedented Space Discovery from Resarchers in Chile and Europe.

Announcement Monday October 16 from Germany, "limited bonafide meeting event", they do have a photo of a brown dwarf star, could be nibiru.

European Southern Observatory Media Event at 1600 CST, central standard time.

gina - 10/14/2017 at 12:24 AM

There's all kinds of stuff going on up there in space. Here is a sample.
Mars 2-14-17

What is the actual truth about space? There are other life forms and entities up there. Alien beings, the Annunaki and Sumerians spoken of in the Bible were real. They came from someplace else. The Pyramids in Egypt were built by the knowledge given to the locals by aliens. Etc.

gina - 10/15/2017 at 11:21 PM

Now the meteorologists say Climate Chaos, because that is what we are experiencing, the climate is in chaos. The magnetic poles have shifted. They just don't talk about that. The new north magnetic pole is off London, close to Stonehenge. So now Cat 3 hurricanes can go to Europe.

gina - 10/15/2017 at 11:37 PM

4.0 Quake on the New Madrid this morning at 5:16 a.m.

The water is also thought to be drying up in the Mississippi. Others have said maybe there are cracks in the earth and the water is leaking into the cracks.

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gina - 10/16/2017 at 12:16 AM

Published on Oct 15, 2017

Despite these modest statements, the history of weather modification and the desire to manipulate hurricanes has a history stretching back at least 100 years to people often known as “rainmakers.” The rainmakers were men who studied “pluviculture,” or the act of attempting to artificially create rain, usually to fight drought. Most of these men were seen as scammers, traveling salesman pitching fantasy ideas to the gullible about creating rain. However, one of the most successful rainmakers was Charles Hatfield. Born in 1875, Hatfield migrated to Southern California and studied pluviculture, eventually creating a secret mixture of 23 chemicals he said could induce rain. Using his secret mixture, Hatfield successfully created storms several times and began to find work creating rain.

In 1915, Hatfield began working for the San Diego city council to produce enough rain to fill the Morena Dam reservoir. Hatfield was told he would receive $10,000 once the reservoir was filled. In early January 1915, rain began pouring down over the dam, growing heavier with each day that passed. On January 20, the dam broke, causing mass flooding that led to an estimated 20 deaths. Hatfield told the press he was not to blame, stating the city should have taken precautions. The city refused to pay Hatfield unless he also accepted liability for the damage and deaths. After legal battles ensued, Hatfield was absolved of any wrongdoing when the storm was officially ruled an act of God. However, due to the ruling, Hatfield’s work was seen as a failure, and he was (mostly) relegated to forgotten pages of history. -controlling-hurricanes

A (Brief) History of Weather Modification

Despite these modest statements, the history of weather modification and the desire to manipulate hurricanes has a history stretching back at least 100 years to people often known as “rainmakers.” The rainmakers were men who studied “pluviculture,” or the act of attempting to artificially create rain, usually to fight drought. Most of these men were seen as scammers, traveling salesman pitching fantasy ideas to the gullible about creating rain. However, one of the most successful rainmakers was Charles Hatfield. Born in 1875, Hatfield migrated to Southern California and studied pluviculture, eventually creating a secret mixture of 23 chemicals he said could induce rain. Using his secret mixture, Hatfield successfully created storms several times and began to find work creating rain.

In 1915, Hatfield began working for the San Diego city council to produce enough rain to fill the Morena Dam reservoir. Hatfield was told he would receive $10,000 once the reservoir was filled. In early January 1915, rain began pouring down over the dam, growing heavier with each day that passed. On January 20, the dam broke, causing mass flooding that led to an estimated 20 deaths. Hatfield told the press he was not to blame, stating the city should have taken precautions. The city refused to pay Hatfield unless he also accepted liability for the damage and deaths. After legal battles ensued, Hatfield was absolved of any wrongdoing when the storm was officially ruled an act of God. However, due to the ruling, Hatfield’s work was seen as a failure, and he was (mostly) relegated to forgotten pages of history.

Beginning in 1947, General Electric, the U.S. Army Corps, the U.S. Air Force, and the Office of Naval Research began attempting to modify hurricanes. The main scientist behind the research was a Nobel Peace Prize-winning chemist named Irving Langmuir. While working as a chemist with GE, Langmuir began to hypothesize about manipulating hurricanes. In October 1947, the researchers decided to seed a hurricane with ice pellets. The hurricane had been drifting to the northeast into the Atlantic Ocean, but after being seeded, the hurricane grew stronger and crashed into Savannah, Georgia.

There was a public backlash and threats of lawsuits against Langmuir and the research team. Despite Langmuir claiming responsibility for affecting the storm, researchers concluded his work did not cause the change in direction. The lawsuits were dropped, but Langmuir continued to work on weather modification. It’s not hard to imagine the U.S. military and General Electric wanting to distance themselves from the destruction by calling their own project a failure. Interestingly, Wikipedia references a 1965 article from the Sun-Sentinel titled “Betsy’s Turnaround Stirs Big Question.” (Betsy was another hurricane reported to have been modified.) The article, written more than a decade later, apparently reports that a hurricane in 1947 “went whacky” and that “[t]welve years later it was admitted the storm had in fact been seeded.” Unfortunately, there is not a digital copy of the article available to verify the claims on Wikipedia.

Most reports on Project Cirrus claim the 1947 hurricane was the only attempt, but a look at records maintained by General Electric indicate there were several more tests on hurricanes. The records list Albuquerque, New Mexico; Mt. Washington, New Hampshire; Burbank, California; and several locations in New York as test sites for cloud seeding with silver iodide. Another section lists cloud seeding attempts in Honduras by Langmuir. The report stated:

“In 1948 and 1949, Langmuir visited Honduras, Guatemala, and Costa Rica to study tropical cloud formations, and particularly to learn what was being done by Joe Silverthorne, a commercial cloud seeder, in seeding clouds for the United Fruit Company. The work was being conducted for the purpose of testing out the possibility of controlling rainfall, and particularly in the hope of stopping blow-downs that result from winds associated with thunderstorms, which occasionally destroy large stands of fruit trees.”

The GE report is well worth your time and attention. It details the contracts between the U.S. military and GE, as well as other historical details regarding GE’s attempts to modify weather.

More recent examples of attempts at weather modification involve programs known as Project Stormfury, Project Cirrus, and Operation Popeye. Project Stormfury was a U.S. government project aimed at weakening Tropical Cyclones by seeding them with silver iodide. From 1961 to 1971, researchers sprayed silver iodide into hurricanes, believing the supercooled water might disrupt the structure of the storm. Officially, the project has been ruled a failure, but it was not the only attempt to manipulate weather in this time period.

One example of seeding a hurricane that may have actually been successful was Hurricane Betsy in 1965. As the Sun-Sentinel reported in 1965:

“Hurricane Betsy was building strength; it looked like it was aiming for South Carolina, posing no threat to South Florida. But on Saturday, Sept. 4, the storm whirled to a stop, about 350 miles east of Jacksonville. When Betsy started moving again on Sunday, she had changed directions. The storm plowed through the Bahamas Monday night, then mauled South Florida a day later.”

Officially, the U.S. government says Hurricane Betsy was designated to be seeded but that apparently, that decision was changed at the last moment. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recalled the event on the 50th anniversary:

“Dr. Joanne Simpson, Project Director, had ordered the fleet of Navy and Weather Bureau research aircraft to deploy to Puerto Rico on August 28th. Over the next two days, the planes monitored the storm’s slow progress toward the designated part of the ocean where they could carry out their weather modification experiments. By August 31st, Betsy had just managed to crawl into the area as a hurricane, so a seeding experiment was scheduled for the next day. The first aircraft had already taken off from Roosevelt Roads Naval Air Station, PR the morning of September 1st when word came from the National Hurricane Center that overnight Betsy had completed a loop in its track and was now headed southward and out of the allowed seeding area. The seeding experiments were called off and the mission changed to a ‘dry run’, where the same patterns were flown but no silver iodide was released into the storm. Unfortunately, no one informed the press which had been alerted to STORMFURY’s seeding intentions the previous day.”

The press and the public blamed the researchers for the 138 mph winds and destruction from Betsy. Congress was skeptical of further programs until the researchers were able to smooth things over. “I was totally unaware of the level of emotion and hostility that was directed against anything that had to do with cloud seeding,” Joanne Simpson, one time head of Project Stormfury, told NASA. Simpson would go on to work on a cloud-seeding project called FACE (the Florida Area Cumulus Experiment).

With Hurricane Betsy and the 1947 hurricane, we have two situations where cloud-seeding was reportedly happening, and we have two disastrous outcomes. In both situations, the scientists claimed no responsibility, and no one was held accountable. Again, is it that hard to imagine a government official (or a scientist under government contract) lying about the nature of the work? Especially if that work resulted in millions of dollars in property damage and deaths?

The NOAA even acknowledges that “[s]ince no one at Project STORMFURY nor in the Weather Bureau had advised the public or the press that the actual seeding of the storm had been scrubbed, many people believed it had been carried out and the link to its odd path seemed plausible. Although attempts to clarify the facts about STORMFURY and Betsy were made after the fact, the notion of a link persists to the present.”

Weather as a Weapon of War

Operation Popeye was a now-declassified attempt by the U.S. military to modify the weather in Southeast Asia from 1967 to 1972. The U.S. military conducted cloud-seeding operations over the Ho-Chi Minh trail during the Vietnam War. Cloud-seeding typically involves planes flying overhead and spraying silver iodide into the air. The goal in Vietnam was to extend monsoon season and flood out the enemy. It was reported that the operations were “tightly controlled” by Henry Kissinger, who was serving as Secretary of State at the time. Operation Popeye is the first modern example (that we know of) where attempts were made to use weather as a weapon of war.

In April 1976, the New York Times wrote about the situation and the challenges weather modification created:

“Can a nation that tampers with natural balances deny responsibility for what follows? This question, together with recognition that United States policy condemns warfare aimed at civilians, prompted Senator Claiborne Pell in 1973 to introduce a resolution calling for an international treaty to prohibit environmental warfare ‘or the carrying out of any research or experimentation directed thereto.’ The Senate voted 82 to 10 to approve the resolution, which lacks force of law.”

The international treaty referred to is the Environmental Modification Treaty implemented and signed by the United States and other nations to halt global weather modification in the wake of the bad publicity. The Times noted:

“Unfortunately it is far weaker than the Senate resolution. For example, it fails to prohibit military research or development of environmental?modification techniques, and allows all ‘peaceful’ work on such things.”

So as long as a nation claims they are conducting peaceful weather modification, they are not violating the treaty. Further, there is no international body to enforce and punish violations of the treaty.

The Times also mentions the Department of Defense’s “Climate Dynamics” program, formerly known as Project Nile Blue. A 1976 report from Milton Leitenberg for the Federation of Scientists elaborates on the origins of Nile Blue. “Beginning in 1969, ARPA, the Advanced Research Projects Agency in the U.S. Department of Defense, began funding a project called “Nile Blue (Climate Modification Research),” Leitenberg wrote.

The Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) was the predecessor to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), a secretive agency within the Department of Defense. DARPA is known for developing exotic and emerging technologies for the military. These reports listed above indicated that Project STORMFURY and Project Nile Blue were some of the earliest known military operations conducted in the name of manipulating the weather, including hurricanes.

Leitenberg also noted two examples of times the U.S. has been accused of using weather modification on other nations. The was first related to alleged cloud seeding over Cuba in 1969 and 1970 in an alleged effort to destroy the sugar crops. In the second case, the director of the geographical research center of the University of Mexico implied that the United States was to blame for the effects of Hurricane Fifi over Honduras in 1974. A story from The Naples Daily News on July 15, 1975, expanded upon this claim:

“Dr. Jorge Vivo, director of the Geographic Research Center of the University of Mexico, said Monday the United States ‘artificially detoured’ the hurricane to Honduras to save Florida’s tourist industry. But Neil Frank, director of the National Hurricane Center in Miami, said Monday night U.S. officials did nothing to alter the hurricane’s path. Vivo told the newspaper El Sol de Mexico he held the United States responsible for 10,000 deaths and millions of dollars in damage caused by Fifi in the Central American nation. He said he believed U.S. weather authorities used silver iodide against Fifi as part of what he called ‘a systematic action’ to change its course.”

More recently, we have seen accusations that the CIA is manipulating the weather. In February 2015, while speaking at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in San Jose, California, Professor Alan Robock discussed the possibility that the CIA is using the weather as a weapon of war. Robock has conducted research for the intergovernmental panel on climate change (IPCC) in the past. Robock said he was phoned by two men claiming to be from the CIA and asking whether or not it was possible for hostile governments to use geoengineering against the United States. Geoengineering is another form of weather modification that involves a range of different proposals for combatting climate change.

Despite a lack of concrete evidence to back these claims, we know the military has a history of testing weather modification and has specifically mentioned using the weather as a weapon. For example, In a 1996 document entitled “Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather by 2025” the U.S. Air Force discussed a number of proposals for using the weather as a weapon.

Whatever view you take of these projects, the fact remains that they helped spur the movement towards using computer models to attempt to predict the weather. Quite simply, the history of computer model weather prediction is intertwined with the military’s attempts to modify the weather. Weather historian James Fleming writes that the two men largely responsible for computer modeling are Vladimir Zworykin, an RCA engineer noted for his early work in television technology, and John von Neumann, a mathematician with the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey. In 1945, Zworykin was promoting the idea that electronic computers could process and analyze mass amounts of meteorological data and issue accurate forecasts.

“The eventual goal to be attained is the international organization of means to study weather phenomena as global phenomena and to channel the world’s weather, as far as possible, in such a way as to minimize the damage from catastrophic disturbances, and otherwise to benefit the world to the greatest extent by improved climatic conditions where ­possible,” Zworykin wrote. According to Fleming, Neumann agreed with this outlook, stating, “I agree with you completely. This would provide a basis for scientific approach[es] to influencing the weather.”

Modern Hurricane Modification

In 2005, following the destruction left by Hurricane Katrina, USA Today wrote:

“In fact, military officials and weather modification experts could be on the verge of joining forces to better gauge, react to, and possibly nullify future hostile forces churned out by Mother Nature.”

On November 10, 2005, Dr. Joseph Golden, former manager of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and veteran of Project STORMFURY, testified before the Senate Subcommittee on Disaster Prediction & Prevention, warning about the need for hurricane modification.

“After the horrendous devastation and loss of life from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, I have been asked several times about the possibility of hurricane modification,” Golden stated. “I firmly believe that we are in a much better position, both with the science and the undergirding technology, than we were when Project STORMFURY was terminated. The need for a renewed national commitment and funding for weather modification research has become more urgent.”

Golden is also involved the Hurricane Aerosol and Microphysics Program (HAMP). In 2010, he gave a presentation discussing how the Department of Homeland Security asked the NOAA to organize a workshop on possible new scientific theory and approaches to hurricane modification in February 2008.

It seems likely that various agencies of the U.S. government began heavily investing in studying weather modification following the destructive hurricane seasons of 2005 and 2008. The idea that the U.S. government could be experimenting with controlling or steering hurricanes may sound like fantasy, but the fact of the matter is the government continues to invest in hurricane modification research. Is it possible that the U.S. government, under the direction of the CIA or the DOD, is working with private industries like General Electric to continue experimenting with weather modification technology? Should the public trust that government officials would fess up to secret experiments?

Depends on if you think they are looking out for you and for everyone in this country.

[Edited on 10/16/2017 by gina]

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