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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 09:48 AM
Heard yet another rumor Gregg is looking yet again for two new guitarists and wants to put the band back together

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 09:58 AM
ABB is overwith but I thought Scott Sharrard was a really good player -- whatever makes bro. Gregg happy...thanks always Gregg for the tunes

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 09:59 AM
Several recent interviews with Gregg that have been posted in this section would say otherwise as he is talking about how he is much more relaxed in his band with nobody else to answer to.

However, anything is possible and with the dysfunction that this band/management has shown over the years it wouldn't surprise me either. I just don't think it is at all likely that Gregg would be the one pushing for it.

So where are these rumors coming from?

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 12:40 PM
Close the book. Over the last few years, they could still play terrific shows but there was not a lot of inspiration in terms of new material. I would not be that excited about two new guitar players playing the same old material.
 
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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 01:33 PM
Old rumours never really die on the internet. Most likely based on absolutely nothing. I hope they will never comtemplate reuniting with 2 new guitarists. Give it a rest. Maybe a one-off reunion with the last line-up for a benefit show which they deem appropriate would be nice in a few years from now.

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 02:32 PM
Already tired of playing state fairs and co-bills with the Doobie Brothers?....or finding that ABB repertoire without the improv isn't all that satisfying?...Why not deliberately hearken to his early solo career, play Queen of Hearts" etc plus solo acoustic and grand piano sets to distinguish himself artistically?
 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 02:35 PM
$100 bucks that whomever started or re-started this rumor was watching the Dead 50th and got to dreaming....

I hope it never happens. Go out like Jordan with the Bulls, not the Wizards.

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 02:47 PM
Right, how dare they consider replacing fill in the blank and fill in the blank with fill in the blank and fill in the blank

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 02:55 PM
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Right, how dare they consider replacing fill in the blank and fill in the blank with fill in the blank and fill in the blank

It certainly is unusual for a band to have lineup changes over time....

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 03:38 PM
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$100 bucks that whomever started or re-started this rumor was watching the Dead 50th and got to dreaming....

I hope it never happens. Go out like Jordan with the Bulls, not the Wizards.


I wonder if any member of the band or management - seeing the webcasts, video and audio recordings and other "after market" products coming from the (Grateful) Dead's final stand is wishing for a Mulligan. Wonder if they're starting to feel that they left a LOT of money on the table?

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 04:09 PM
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$100 bucks that whomever started or re-started this rumor was watching the Dead 50th and got to dreaming....

I hope it never happens. Go out like Jordan with the Bulls, not the Wizards.


I wonder if any member of the band or management - seeing the webcasts, video and audio recordings and other "after market" products coming from the (Grateful) Dead's final stand is wishing for a Mulligan. Wonder if they're starting to feel that they left a LOT of money on the table?



Yep, lotta money and even more respect: can the animosity that reportedly exists between some (or all ) of the core GD four really be less of an obstacle than the friction that developed among ABB in their latter days? And yet Butch, Gregg, Holman et.al. couldn't, for all the sanctimonious self-avowed loyalty to the legacy, find a way to rise above it?????

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 04:12 PM
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$100 bucks that whomever started or re-started this rumor was watching the Dead 50th and got to dreaming....

I hope it never happens. Go out like Jordan with the Bulls, not the Wizards.


I wonder if any member of the band or management - seeing the webcasts, video and audio recordings and other "after market" products coming from the (Grateful) Dead's final stand is wishing for a Mulligan. Wonder if they're starting to feel that they left a LOT of money on the table?




The amount left on the table on archival recordings alone is staggering, IMO.

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 04:18 PM
If everyone is healthy in 2019..........50th Anniversary celebration.......10 nights at the Beacon!

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 04:37 PM
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$100 bucks that whomever started or re-started this rumor was watching the Dead 50th and got to dreaming....

I hope it never happens. Go out like Jordan with the Bulls, not the Wizards.


I wonder if any member of the band or management - seeing the webcasts, video and audio recordings and other "after market" products coming from the (Grateful) Dead's final stand is wishing for a Mulligan. Wonder if they're starting to feel that they left a LOT of money on the table?




The amount left on the table on archival recordings alone is staggering, IMO.


How much does the ABB actually have in the vault that is of releasable quality? Does anyone know?

If there is anything, who owns the rights? I'm not even sure the ABB even owns their own archives and master recordings. They didn't have good record deals back in the day.

The Grateful Dead's merch machine and their fan base is on a whole different level.

While I am a huge fan of the ABB, I don't think there is as much demand or money in archival release as us die hard fans on here think. It might even be a break even proposition or even a money loser depending on who owns the recordings.





[Edited on 7/8/2015 by WarEagleRK]

 

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$100 bucks that whomever started or re-started this rumor was watching the Dead 50th and got to dreaming....

I hope it never happens. Go out like Jordan with the Bulls, not the Wizards.


I wonder if any member of the band or management - seeing the webcasts, video and audio recordings and other "after market" products coming from the (Grateful) Dead's final stand is wishing for a Mulligan. Wonder if they're starting to feel that they left a LOT of money on the table?




The amount left on the table on archival recordings alone is staggering, IMO.


How much does the ABB actually have in the vault that is of releasable quality? Does anyone know?

If there is anything, who owns the rights? I'm not even sure the ABB even owns their own archives and master recordings. They didn't have good record deals back in the day.

The Grateful Dead's merch machine and their fan base is on a whole different level.

While I am a huge fan of the ABB, I don't think there is as much demand or money in archival release as us die hard fans on here think. It might even be a break even proposition or even a money loser depending on who owns the recordings.




I agree w/this, chances are there's no real market for any more archive releases -- really grateful for what Has been put out there tho
I love the ABB

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 05:03 PM
I don't really know how much material is in the vault that is worth releasing, but if you want proof the ABB left money on the table, consider this...

The Allman Brothers Band Live At Fillmore WEST

This is something that could have happened--SHOULD have happened--years ago. I guess it still could, but I've given up hope.

If there was ever an ABB archive release that would have stood out from the crowd and appealed to more than just hardcore fans like us, that was it.

 
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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 05:17 PM
Rob, if you are talking about the new years eve 73 show from the Fillmore West, it is getting an unofficial (bootleg) release in a couple of weeks. There are some questionable releases if you check out Amazon's UK page coming up for that show.

Great show and it should be out there for the public.

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 05:40 PM
Have loved that 1973 NYEve show from the Cow Palace in SF for many years -- really about the finest hour for this lineup, along w/the 5/1/73 Mtn. Jam

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 05:40 PM
Nope, talking about Duane-era shows that would have been a true compliment to the original Fillmore East album.

I am glad the '73 stuff is getting released, but that is a different beast and not really the same thing as Fillmore East, at least in my opinion.

 
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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 07:43 PM
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FW shows would be cool

and what about that Atlanta Pop Vid that we have been hearing about and that we know does exist?

 

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  posted on 7/8/2015 at 10:43 PM
Were the Fillmore West shows with Duane ever recorded? That was the first I've heard of that even being a possibility.
 

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  posted on 7/9/2015 at 12:15 AM
Two new guitarists!......Yeah!

Right after he puts the CD out, "all songs written by Gregg Allman"

 

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  posted on 7/9/2015 at 04:13 AM
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Two new guitarists!......Yeah!

Right after he puts the CD out, "all songs written by Gregg Allman"


Butch and jaimoe will be in wheelchairs by then.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2015 at 06:01 AM
There are definitely recordings of the band with Duane at Fillmore West. It's not just a possiblity, WarEagle, it was fully prepared for release years back.

There are several other threads you can search for on here that talk about it. Liner notes were written, and at one point I think it was even promoted as "the next Archive release."

Shortly thereafter the plug was pulled on the whole Archive series, for reasons I never have understood and probably never will.


 
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  posted on 7/9/2015 at 06:11 AM
Wow. That's highly disappointing to hear. I never knew that there was another Archive release ready to go before they put the stop to them. The dysfunction of this band at all levels except on the stage at times is amazing.
 
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