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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 07:03 PM
Before I pass this vine on , I want to check.
I remember seeing it posted somewhere that he is a vine killer.
His name is William Iovine.

If I'm thinking of the wrong guy,then I apologize.
If he's the same person, then I'll post his board name and addy.

Thanks for your help!
Rick

 
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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 07:04 PM
I believe you are correct. I remember the name.

 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 07:13 PM
that's exactly him

 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 07:24 PM
What does that mean, "vine killer"?
 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 07:38 PM
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What does that mean, "vine killer"?


He will keep the discs and not send them on.

He is an **** of the lowest order.

 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 07:40 PM
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Before I pass this vine on , I want to check.
I remember seeing it posted somewhere that he is a vine killer.
His name is William Iovine.

If I'm thinking of the wrong guy,then I apologize.
If he's the same person, then I'll post his board name and addy.

Thanks for your help!
Rick



What address is he using now?

The one where his house burned down?

 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 08:15 PM
Troll

 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 08:20 PM
hmm that's weird i have sent a lot of discs to him and recieved some as well. wouldn't think he'd do that. Cant trust noone in this world can ya?

 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 08:26 PM
Oh boy, here we go again

 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 08:35 PM
What is the screen name?
 
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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 09:07 PM
I just got a heads up from a member that he is coming up on a vine I seeded and let me know just in case I thought he should be passed over. He was a major part of some real ugliness going around in the vine section not too long ago. But currently he seems to have become a viable member of the vining forum, planting several excellent seeds and from what my searches have found he has been turning the shows he has received in a timely fashion. I don't know why he acted as he did in the past, but for now I say let's leave it in the past, move on and as long as he continues to be a good member of the vine forum I see no reason to pass him over at this time and welcome his participation. I'm sure many posting have signed on to the vines he has seeded and are enjoying his contributions.
 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 09:38 PM
I've rec'd mailers from him. He seems to be moving the vines along pretty good now & has started several vines.

I hate these peckin' parties.

 

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  posted on 4/19/2007 at 09:44 PM




Bluenotes in TN ???




 

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  posted on 4/20/2007 at 08:26 AM
Iovine

I
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vine

i owe vines

hmmn.

 

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  posted on 4/20/2007 at 08:55 AM
I just sent him a vine. I remembered his name from some threads six months to a year ago. I did a search on his screen name and it looks like he's passing vines on now and offering them. Do a search and decide for yourself.
 

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  posted on 4/20/2007 at 09:48 AM
What screen name is he using this time?
 

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  posted on 4/20/2007 at 10:40 AM
At first glance, I thought this thread said "Val Kilmer" help...ha!!

Speaking of which, I just watched "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang". Pretty good detective movie with Val and Robert Downey Jr. Val plays a gay PI.

 

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  posted on 4/21/2007 at 07:57 PM
Earlier tonight I received an interesting PM from William.

It explained a lot.

At least, I hope it did.

I will respond to it in time.

I'm pretty much willing to give him a second chance, but only if he truly realizes how much he effed up the whole trading vibe here for several months.

We questioned every new person, any slow response, really distrusted most people by being over cautious to keep from being burned and embarrassed.

Apparently he has been vining and trading in good faith since January using the name Bluenotes.

So far, it seems he's passed along everything that has come his way.

If that's true, good for him.

 

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  posted on 4/22/2007 at 12:15 PM
Thanks everybody for the kind words an pms of encouragement.

It really was great meeting so many of you at wanee.


Thanks for letting me back in the extended family.

I promise I won't let you down


All the best

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  posted on 4/22/2007 at 01:59 PM
I must chime in to air my thoughts because I like the folks I've met on this board, and i just feel that it's the right thing to do. I saw the pumpkinpie thing last year and it sounded like Billy to me, even BEFORE he posted his full name and address. The "my house burned down" thing disgusted me, and I wondered why someone would feel the need to do this, when the music is out there for everyone to enjoy, for free!!

Some people in my life have told many lies to me, therefore, when I see other folks telling blatant lies, I feel a strong need to speak out.

I know this gentleman William Iovine. I met him in Orlando around 1999-2000 when I used to go to a bar called Reilly's pub to see certain bands. I have seen Billy maybe 6-7 times since those days, always at a concert, and most recently at Wanee. I met Billy through a buddy there and we would talk about music, and enjoy music together. I thought Billy was super-friendly. And Billy, if you are reading this, I still think you are super-friendly. You are a super nice guy! That is why I liked talking with you! However, I read this board periodically, and last year I saw a login called pumpkinpie come to this board and start all kinds of crap. I saw pumkinpie talk very rudely to people on this board. I guess pumpkinpie did not realize that the people behind these screennames are real human beings, and you have no right to treat them badly. Billy and I had exchanged emails in the past and exchanged music. Therefore, when I saw pumkinpie start all that crap, I was amazed that Billy could do such a thing after seeing what a nice gentleman he was at concerts and stuff.

It didn't take long after reading through some of that pumpkinpie drama last year for me to suspect that it was Billy. How? Well, because of his style of typing, first of all, then he POSTED HIS NAME IN THE THREAD, and then removed it at some point. There were lots of **** -talking posts that were made by pumkinpie, then deleted.

I followed the "house burned down" thread for awhile. I showed my friend Jon, who came to Wanee with me the last two years. We were like "what the f***."

I communicated with William Iovine (Billy) through email around that time. He emailed me telling me he was sending me this or that. And he did. He sent me some great Dead dvds and Allmans shows. Great. Thank you. I chose not to even bring up that I suspected he was pumkinpie and all that. Why? Well, because I didn't want to stir anything, and frankly, I have better things to do with my time right now, as I am in school full-time. But, I really wanted to ask if he was ok, being without a house and all, since it burned down.

So, Billy, I suspect you will read this, as I have reason to believe that you are the "bluenote" login now. If you are wondering why I was a bit frustrated with you at Wanee, well, this is why. I mentioned the pumkinpie thing and you denied it, even asking me what I was talking about in an exaggerated manner!!

I did not want to bring this up at Wanee when you appeared out of the blue and hung around us all weekend, well, because I don't care to diminish my experience over something as silly as this. My question is...why create this crap in the first place. Isn't the world full of enough negativity already?! I go to concerts and music festivals to enjoy myself and enjoy the fellowship of others. These are real people on this message board, and if you have screwed anybody out of cds or whatever it is you are doing, you should make good on that. You should be yourself and come clean. Just be yourself Man.

I remember at Wanee I had to tell you at one point to get lost or something like that. Why was I acting like that? Well, because your integrity and credibility have diminished to zero after the pumkinpie stuff. Then, you came back and said something about being a gentleman? Gentleman? Was pumpkinpie a gentleman? C'mon dude, let's get real here.

That being said, you are a super nice, and friendly guy. I enjoy talking with you about music. But when you stop being yourself, I tend to go the other way.

I don't have any evidence that you were pumpkinpie, nor do I care that much about it. However, I did see you post your address in that" house burnt down" thread, and you said some really nasty things to people. This is why I was distant from you at Wanee this year, Man. I don't hear from you for ever, then you just show up at our campsite. What am I supposed to think?

If you were pumpkinpie, I think you should come clean. I think you were, but hey, what do I know.

It seems that you are finally doing right by people with the vines and stuff. You should continue to do that. I have only traded once or twice on this board. I rarely trade at all these days. I just don't have the time. I have more music than I could possibly listen to. So, keep doing the right thing and be true to yourself and to others.

Peace,

Thomas

 

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  posted on 4/22/2007 at 02:22 PM
Woah

 

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  posted on 4/22/2007 at 02:26 PM
I should also mention that I was reluctant to post about this, well, because who wants to say that they believe that they know the gentleman that posted as pumpkinpie?! Kind of embarrasing, huh? Yes, I know Billy, but I could count on two hands the amount of times that I've seen him.

I had a gut instinct that Billy was in fact pumpkinpie, but as I mentioned, I did not want to get involved. Now, I feel the need to speak out. If I am wrong, I certainly apologize.

Billy, you are a great guy, but you should do right by people, even if they are on a messageboard and you don't have face-to-face contact.

You told me at Wanee that you didn't know who pumpkinpie was, and you acted very exagerrated about it...which made me even more suspicious. Actually, suspicion isn't the right word. Hell, I was convinced it was you last May or whatever it was when your house burned down and your cat died!

Again, if I am wrong, forgive me. What am I supposed to think, given all the info?





 

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  posted on 4/22/2007 at 02:52 PM


After meeting William at Wanee last Saturday, and exchanging PMs since, I can assure you that William Iovine is/was ryebread, and now is bluenotes.





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Thanks everybody for the kind words an pms of encouragement.

It really was great meeting so many of you at wanee.


Thanks for letting me back in the extended family.

I promise I won't let you down


All the best

Blue






Anybody see any remorse in there ??

Or an apology ??



Just my two cents,

and the last I will waste on this subject




 

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  posted on 4/22/2007 at 03:35 PM
Im sorry and working to right all the bridges burnt.

It will just take time.

 

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  posted on 4/22/2007 at 03:56 PM
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Im sorry and working to right all the bridges burnt.

It will just take time.


I hope you mean that. I don't even trade music on this board, so you didn't screw ME over. But I saw the bull**** in the "my house burned down" thread last year and thought to myself "Wow, HOW, and WHY would someone do this??

I am crazy about music, it is what feeds my soul. I've aquired a ton of music over the years through honest trading through the mail and over the web. I never felt the need to f*** people over in order to aquire great music. These bands allow their music to be circulated for free!

Why would someone get off making up a bogus story to get people to send them music?? I don't get it. Anyway...

Billy, you hung out with us alot at Wanee. Everytime Jon and I looked up, there you were. We fed you without batting an eye. You brought ice for the cooler one day. We appreciate that. Thank you!

As you remember, I got frustrated with you a couple of times at Wanee. The whole reason was this BS that you pulled on this message board. I asked my buddy Jon, before we left for Wanee, if I should even say anything about it. He said I should, but I did not want to make any waves, because I go to these events to get away from the BS of everyday life.

I did mention pumpkinpie to you at one point, in a subtle manner, and you got pretty defensive trying to act like you didn't know what I was talking about. So, I dropped it. Then you still kept on! "What are you talking about Tom...Who is pumpkinpie?"

Anyway, Jon and I still welcomed you to our camp area, and shared whatever we had with you, even suspecting that you were behind the whole pumpkinpie thing. I mean, I guess we had no choice...everyday, there you were. That's not bad I guess, I'm just sayin'...

What you do is your business, but I felt the need to air my thoughts regarding this, because I've seen that there are some really good people on here, who did not ask to be treated as they were by pumpkinpie.

Stay Human,

Thomas

 

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