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  posted on 9/2/2008 at 12:52 PM
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So much misguided hatred for one woman. What has she done that so bad. Ya'll act like she should be strung up from some tree. My gosh let the woman state her case before you lynch her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They see the same qualities Conservatives see in Palin and it scares them to death.


No, we see an unqualified candidate. We also are quite glad she is the nominee since she is an "extreme conservative". Only helps shore up the base, which were voting for McCain anyway, even if they didn't like it. Her selection does nothing for the R's to go after the middle and as many have said, you need the middle to win.


You haven't even seen her campaign yet this you know?

She's more qualified than BarryO and he's at the top of the dem ticket. Being an "extreme conservative" is not the epithet that being an extreme liberal is, ala BarryO.

If Palin were not such a major threat, democrats would not be so desperate to discredit and destroy her. Of course they'll over do it which will only garner more sympathy for the woman from the electorate including independents.

I find it amusing that many of our best-and-brightest here are huffing and puffing about Palin's alleged inexperience were the same ones pontificating that the VP pick doesn't really matter when BarryO flip-flopped (again) and chose a three-plus decade DC insider in his campaign for "change."

 

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She's more qualified than BarryO and he's at the top of the dem ticket. Being an "extreme conservative" is not the epithet that being an extreme liberal is, ala BarryO.


How is she more qualified than Obama? Details please.

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If Palin were not such a major threat, democrats would not be so desperate to discredit and destroy her.


Nobody has done anything like that. As I pointed out to you earlier, all of the information thats come out is her own doing.

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Of course they'll over do it which will only garner more sympathy for the woman from the electorate including independents.


Nope, no sympathy for liars or unqualified people. That was the Bush administraton and those days are over.

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I find it amusing that many of our best-and-brightest here are huffing and puffing about Palin's alleged inexperience were the same ones pontificating that the VP pick doesn't really matter when BarryO flip-flopped (again) and chose a three-plus decade DC insider in his campaign for "change."


Uh huh... meanwhile, you certainly cant argue that Biden doesnt have experience. Nor can you probably tell us why out of all the talent in the GOP, Palin was the best they could come up with involving everyone in McCains entire career. He goes with someone he met exactly once for about 15 minutes? Yeah, thats a well thought out plan. Hysterical.

 

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  posted on 9/2/2008 at 01:21 PM
Obamaís biggest problem is his difficulty attracting the votes of women over 40. To win, a democrat needs to win this group big - yet Obama is down four points.

BarryO has run his mouth and run for president. That's it. Palin, who is running for VICE president has run a state. Not for long I'll grant you but that is better than merely flapping one's gums.

 

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No amount of Obama commentary can dismiss the fact that John McCain practically cold-called the Governor of Alaska, who virtually no one in the Lower 48 had ever heard of (save for Fujirich) and asked her to be VP, making an already nutty election even nuttier.

Over the holiday weekend I was on the go and got to speak to alot of people of all political persuasions. One thing I noticed was all the women that were more than a little miffed at the notion that women will vote for McCain now simply because Palin is a woman, regardless of her stance on issues. People vote for and don't vote for candidates for a wide number of reasons, and I think those of us that follow politics closely forget that at times. I talked to a couple of gals that would never vote for Palin because she was once a beauty queen. To each their own...

 

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One thing I noticed was all the women that were more than a little miffed at the notion that women will vote for McCain now simply because Palin is a woman, regardless of her stance on issues.


This is a democrat/msm talking point not a McCain strategy per se. The dems and the media are trying to belittle the pick in anyway they can and this is merely another example.

It's typical old school liberal spin:

Put words, or in this case intentions, in someone's mouth (and/or mind) and then chastise them for what they neither said nor intended.

 

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One thing I noticed was all the women that were more than a little miffed at the notion that women will vote for McCain now simply because Palin is a woman, regardless of her stance on issues.


This is a democrat/msm talking point not a McCain strategy per se. The dems and the media are trying to belittle the pick in anyway they can and this is merely another example.

It's typical old school liberal spin:

Put words, or in this case intentions, in someone's mouth (and/or mind) and then chastise them for what they neither said nor intended.


Are you calling me a liar?

 

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"Our governor is going to be vice president, and we still don't have an Olive Garden.''
--Alaskan Kerry Baranou, bemoaning the local dining choices while celebrating the prospect of Sarah Palin going to the White House, in Sunday's New York Times.

 

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One thing I noticed was all the women that were more than a little miffed at the notion that women will vote for McCain now simply because Palin is a woman, regardless of her stance on issues.


This is a democrat/msm talking point not a McCain strategy per se. The dems and the media are trying to belittle the pick in anyway they can and this is merely another example.

It's typical old school liberal spin:

Put words, or in this case intentions, in someone's mouth (and/or mind) and then chastise them for what they neither said nor intended.


Are you calling me a liar?


Not at all. I'm calling the women you spoke with influenced by the democrats and the mainstream media in the fashion I described. Read what I wrote again and don't jump at the chance to be offended. Jeez.

 

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One thing I noticed was all the women that were more than a little miffed at the notion that women will vote for McCain now simply because Palin is a woman, regardless of her stance on issues.


This is a democrat/msm talking point not a McCain strategy per se. The dems and the media are trying to belittle the pick in anyway they can and this is merely another example.

It's typical old school liberal spin:

Put words, or in this case intentions, in someone's mouth (and/or mind) and then chastise them for what they neither said nor intended.


Are you calling me a liar?


Not at all. I'm calling the women you spoke with influenced by the democrats and the mainstream media in the fashion I described. Read what I wrote again and don't jump at the chance to be offended. Jeez.


No, you weren't there. That wasn't the context at all. Has it ever occurred to you that people have their own observations and thoughts without getting them from anywhere else? The world doesn't fit neatly into your neat categories of left and right. Or, to you, maybe they do.

 

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One thing I noticed was all the women that were more than a little miffed at the notion that women will vote for McCain now simply because Palin is a woman, regardless of her stance on issues.


This is a democrat/msm talking point not a McCain strategy per se. The dems and the media are trying to belittle the pick in anyway they can and this is merely another example.

It's typical old school liberal spin:

Put words, or in this case intentions, in someone's mouth (and/or mind) and then chastise them for what they neither said nor intended.


Are you calling me a liar?


Not at all. I'm calling the women you spoke with influenced by the democrats and the mainstream media in the fashion I described. Read what I wrote again and don't jump at the chance to be offended. Jeez.


No, you weren't there. That wasn't the context at all.


Then what WAS the context? Is it different from what you related? You described their observations at the same time the democrats and the mainstream media are spinning the Palin pick, far and wide, as an attempt to attract disaffected Hilary voters. It only stands to reason that was the genesis of your women friends thoughts on the matter.

 

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One thing I noticed was all the women that were more than a little miffed at the notion that women will vote for McCain now simply because Palin is a woman, regardless of her stance on issues.


This is a democrat/msm talking point not a McCain strategy per se. The dems and the media are trying to belittle the pick in anyway they can and this is merely another example.

It's typical old school liberal spin:

Put words, or in this case intentions, in someone's mouth (and/or mind) and then chastise them for what they neither said nor intended.


Are you calling me a liar?


Not at all. I'm calling the women you spoke with influenced by the democrats and the mainstream media in the fashion I described. Read what I wrote again and don't jump at the chance to be offended. Jeez.


No, you weren't there. That wasn't the context at all.


Then what WAS the context? Is it different from what you related? You described their observations at the same time the democrats and the mainstream media are spinning the Palin pick, far and wide, as an attempt to attract disaffected Hilary voters. It only stands to reason that was the genesis of your women friends thoughts on the matter.


It had nothing to do with Hillary at all. It came up when another person in the conversation had mused whether or not a majority of women would now vote for McCain simply because Palin is a woman. Some women in the group really bristled at that, and one in particular, who had read some background on Palin, had already dismissed Palin due to her stance on teaching Creationism in public schools..an example that just because she is a woman does not mean that women will automatically vote for her.

By the way, just how is it that you know for a fact that gender had no bearing on McCain's decision? You say that is not a "per se" McCain strategy to pick a woman given recent events on the Democratic side. How is it you know that? Senator McCain tell you?


 

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One thing I noticed was all the women that were more than a little miffed at the notion that women will vote for McCain now simply because Palin is a woman, regardless of her stance on issues.


This is a democrat/msm talking point not a McCain strategy per se. The dems and the media are trying to belittle the pick in anyway they can and this is merely another example.

It's typical old school liberal spin:

Put words, or in this case intentions, in someone's mouth (and/or mind) and then chastise them for what they neither said nor intended.


Are you calling me a liar?


Not at all. I'm calling the women you spoke with influenced by the democrats and the mainstream media in the fashion I described. Read what I wrote again and don't jump at the chance to be offended. Jeez.


No, you weren't there. That wasn't the context at all.


Then what WAS the context? Is it different from what you related? You described their observations at the same time the democrats and the mainstream media are spinning the Palin pick, far and wide, as an attempt to attract disaffected Hilary voters. It only stands to reason that was the genesis of your women friends thoughts on the matter.


It had nothing to do with Hillary at all. It came up when another person in the conversation had mused whether or not a majority of women would now vote for McCain simply because Palin is a woman. Some women in the group really bristled at that, and one in particular, who had read some background on Palin, had already dismissed Palin due to her stance on teaching Creationism in public schools..an example that just because she is a woman does not mean that women will automatically vote for her.

By the way, just how is it that you know for a fact that gender had no bearing on McCain's decision? You say that is not a "per se" McCain strategy to pick a woman given recent events on the Democratic side. How is it you know that? Senator McCain tell you?




He didn't tell me he did. He didn't tell me he didn't. Likewise he didn't tell you. Neither of us "know for a fact" anything hence we are free to draw our own conclusions. What the democrats and media have INDEED been doing is spinning the Palin pick as a shallow ploy to attract Shrillary voters. That is inarguable and that is the gist of my original comment.

 

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What the democrats and media have INDEED been doing is spinning the Palin pick as a shallow ploy to attract Shrillary voters. That is inarguable and that is the gist of my original comment.


Um, why do YOU think McCain picked Palin? Its obvious that they are trying to get the "disenfranchised" womens vote they think might not want to vote for Obama. Theres no shame in doing that, its politics.

 

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I think she also solidifies some financial and social conservatives (along with the hope she grabs the women you mention). If she had a full term as Governor she would be a dynamo. I respect that she takes on her own Party. Refreshing.

 

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What does Sarah Palin have to say for herself?

On abortion: [I am as] pro-life as any candidate can be. [I have] adamantly supported our cause since I first understood, as a child, the atrocity of abortion. (2002)




I am pro-choice, because there is no reason for the government to be involved with such a personal decision, yet I am also not pro-abortion as I agree with rape, incest, and the life of the mother. Third trimester, even second trimester abortions are more than troubling. But, as the old adage goes, if guys could get pregnant.

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On her son, who has Down syndrome: I'm looking at him right now, and I see perfection. Yeah, he has an extra chromosome. I keep thinking, in our world, what is normal and what is perfect? (2008)



Don't know what the problem is with this statement. Maybe a liberal could enlighten me.

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I believe that marriage should only be between and [sic] man and a woman. (2006)



Same as Obama's position.

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On marijuana [then legal in Alaska]: I can't claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled. (2002)




Good for her. The "I didn't inhale" was as lame as it gets.

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On creationism and evolution (via Tapped): Teach both. You know, donít be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important and itís so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And, you know, I say this, too, as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution. (2006)




No place for Creationism in a science class, in my opinion. Intelligent Design is a different matter. The dinosaurs evolved to control the planet, got huge, and was the dominant species. Unfortunately, their brains didn't keep up, evolution-wise, and though they were dominant, they weren't ultimately going anywhere. Cue comet 65 million years ago. Still, I would put that in the sociology class.

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On education: I envision a world class educational system founded upon the principles of safety, quality, social responsibility, parental involvement and fiscal accountability. Education is a service the state is mandated to provide. I strongly believe in providing an adequate level of funding to ensure high quality public schools. (2006)




I agree.

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On the energy crunch: I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can't drill our way out of our problem or that more supply won't ultimately affect prices. (2008)



True. Drilling while persuing alternative fuels will both bring the price down and bridge the coming energy gap until the laternative fuels are more pragmatic.

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On polar bears: We believe that listing polar bears as [an endangered species] is a significant threat to development, because most live on the North Slope. (2008)



Putting the polar bear on the list was a definite political move and not a nature move, and the eskimos and Inuit agree with Palin.

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On gun rights: I am a lifetime member of the NRA, I support our Constitutional right to bear arms and am a proponent of gun safety programs for Alaska's youth. (2006)




Amen!

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On global warming: A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made. (2008)



Sorry, jury still out on this one as global cooling could be here soon. The idea that there would be no global warming right now if humans weren't here is ridiculous. The Earth has its own plans.

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On her favorite meal: Moose stew after a day of snowmachining. (2008)



Sweet! I prefer the carribou I have eaten, but I would love me some moose stew, and if I am half as good on a snow machine as I am on an ATV, lets go rock the snow.

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On God and destiny: I believe everything happens for a purpose. In my own personal life, if I dedicated back to my Creator what I'm trying to create for the good . . . everything will turn out fine. (2007)



Amen.

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On government and economics: Local government is the best government, so I'll work to restore municipal revenue shares... trickle down the State's wealth to relieve local property tax burdens as we acknowledge the plank in our platform that preaches truth: the most effective, responsible, and responsive government is government closest to the people... so tie strings to the revenue if you must, allow it only to be used for basic public safety or education needs if you must, but trickle it down! (2006) [Ed: If someone can explain to me what this means, I'd appreciate it.]




Can't understand it? What a shock. The belief is that the best politics is local politics. It is the same reason why education is still a local issue as those at the state level, and damn sure the national level, never quite are as efficient because they lose touch with the local. And, she is for lowering property taxes. Beautiful.

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On politics as usual: I refuse to use divisive tactics that polarize individuals for political gain. As Mayor of Wasilla, the fastest growing area of Alaska, then as Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, I approached issues in a non-partisan way. (2006)


%80 approval rating, and has gone after her own party. Awesome.

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On being VP [1]: As for vice president, it would be certainly an exciting thing to consider, but to me it's so farfetched and out there that I don't spend any time thinking about it because we have so many things to do in Alaska. (2008)

On being VP [2]: As for that VP talk all the time, Iíll tell you, I still canít answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? Iím used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that weíre trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question. (2008)





She wants to be productive as Vice president and not be a slacker. Cool.

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On her husband (hat tip to Robin Sneed): First dude. (2007) [Ed: This is an unverified attribution; it may be that Sarah Palin does not actually refer to her husband as 'first dude'--but it's too much fun to pass up.]




Big whoop. I guess this plays in Berkeley

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11. Are you offended by the phrase ďUnder GodĒ in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
JB: No.
SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and Iíll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.


Does she know that our founding fathers never heard of the pledge of allegiance? That phrase went in in 1954. Classic


The bigger issue being that the Founding Fathers waxed eloquently about the role of God and this country, as much as that chagrins the clueless atheists. I have as many quotes from the Founding Fathers as you want on the subject.

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please state the ones you agree with !!




I agree, Ryde, and am looking forward to the responses.

Finally, I just watched ABC News tonight and they had Garrison Keillor of A Prairie Home Companion on talking about his hometown of St Paul, and he had a great line - "It doesn't get as cold here as people think. But, they think it does get very cold here which is good because it keeps away slackers and Texans."

How about some ice fishing??

Gotta love it.

DH

 

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What does Sarah Palin have to say for herself?

On abortion: [I am as] pro-life as any candidate can be. [I have] adamantly supported our cause since I first understood, as a child, the atrocity of abortion. (2002)




I am pro-choice, because there is no reason for the government to be involved with such a personal decision, yet I am also not pro-abortion as I agree with rape, incest, and the life of the mother. Third trimester, even second trimester abortions are more than troubling. But, as the old adage goes, if guys could get pregnant.

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On her son, who has Down syndrome: I'm looking at him right now, and I see perfection. Yeah, he has an extra chromosome. I keep thinking, in our world, what is normal and what is perfect? (2008)



Don't know what the problem is with this statement. Maybe a liberal could enlighten me.

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I believe that marriage should only be between and [sic] man and a woman. (2006)



Same as Obama's position.

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On marijuana [then legal in Alaska]: I can't claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled. (2002)




Good for her. The "I didn't inhale" was as lame as it gets.

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On creationism and evolution (via Tapped): Teach both. You know, donít be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important and itís so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And, you know, I say this, too, as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution. (2006)




No place for Creationism in a science class, in my opinion. Intelligent Design is a different matter. The dinosaurs evolved to control the planet, got huge, and was the dominant species. Unfortunately, their brains didn't keep up, evolution-wise, and though they were dominant, they weren't ultimately going anywhere. Cue comet 65 million years ago. Still, I would put that in the sociology class.

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On education: I envision a world class educational system founded upon the principles of safety, quality, social responsibility, parental involvement and fiscal accountability. Education is a service the state is mandated to provide. I strongly believe in providing an adequate level of funding to ensure high quality public schools. (2006)




I agree.

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On the energy crunch: I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can't drill our way out of our problem or that more supply won't ultimately affect prices. (2008)



True. Drilling while persuing alternative fuels will both bring the price down and bridge the coming energy gap until the laternative fuels are more pragmatic.

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On polar bears: We believe that listing polar bears as [an endangered species] is a significant threat to development, because most live on the North Slope. (2008)



Putting the polar bear on the list was a definite political move and not a nature move, and the eskimos and Inuit agree with Palin.

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On gun rights: I am a lifetime member of the NRA, I support our Constitutional right to bear arms and am a proponent of gun safety programs for Alaska's youth. (2006)




Amen!

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On global warming: A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made. (2008)



Sorry, jury still out on this one as global cooling could be here soon. The idea that there would be no global warming right now if humans weren't here is ridiculous. The Earth has its own plans.

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On her favorite meal: Moose stew after a day of snowmachining. (2008)



Sweet! I prefer the carribou I have eaten, but I would love me some moose stew, and if I am half as good on a snow machine as I am on an ATV, lets go rock the snow.

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On God and destiny: I believe everything happens for a purpose. In my own personal life, if I dedicated back to my Creator what I'm trying to create for the good . . . everything will turn out fine. (2007)



Amen.

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On government and economics: Local government is the best government, so I'll work to restore municipal revenue shares... trickle down the State's wealth to relieve local property tax burdens as we acknowledge the plank in our platform that preaches truth: the most effective, responsible, and responsive government is government closest to the people... so tie strings to the revenue if you must, allow it only to be used for basic public safety or education needs if you must, but trickle it down! (2006) [Ed: If someone can explain to me what this means, I'd appreciate it.]




Can't understand it? What a shock. The belief is that the best politics is local politics. It is the same reason why education is still a local issue as those at the state level, and damn sure the national level, never quite are as efficient because they lose touch with the local. And, she is for lowering property taxes. Beautiful.

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On politics as usual: I refuse to use divisive tactics that polarize individuals for political gain. As Mayor of Wasilla, the fastest growing area of Alaska, then as Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, I approached issues in a non-partisan way. (2006)


%80 approval rating, and has gone after her own party. Awesome.

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On being VP [1]: As for vice president, it would be certainly an exciting thing to consider, but to me it's so farfetched and out there that I don't spend any time thinking about it because we have so many things to do in Alaska. (2008)

On being VP [2]: As for that VP talk all the time, Iíll tell you, I still canít answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? Iím used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that weíre trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question. (2008)





She wants to be productive as Vice president and not be a slacker. Cool.

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On her husband (hat tip to Robin Sneed): First dude. (2007) [Ed: This is an unverified attribution; it may be that Sarah Palin does not actually refer to her husband as 'first dude'--but it's too much fun to pass up.]




Big whoop. I guess this plays in Berkeley

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11. Are you offended by the phrase ďUnder GodĒ in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
JB: No.
SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and Iíll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.


Does she know that our founding fathers never heard of the pledge of allegiance? That phrase went in in 1954. Classic


The bigger issue being that the Founding Fathers waxed eloquently about the role of God and this country, as much as that chagrins the clueless atheists. I have as many quotes from the Founding Fathers as you want on the subject.

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I disagree with her almost across the board.
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please state the ones you agree with !!




I agree, Ryde, and am looking forward to the responses.

Finally, I just watched ABC News tonight and they had Garrison Keillor of A Prairie Home Companion on talking about his hometown of St Paul, and he had a great line - "It doesn't get as cold here as people think. But, they think it does get very cold here which is good because it keeps away slackers and Texans."

How about some ice fishing??

Gotta love it.

DH


Why in the hell would a Texan want to move to St. Paul, Minnesota?

 

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The bigger issue being that the Founding Fathers waxed eloquently about the role of God and this country, as much as that chagrins the clueless atheists. I have as many quotes from the Founding Fathers as you want on the subject.


Great, but theres no way on Earth that she was talking about that, Derek. If you believe it to be, feel free to post some of these quotes regarding the Pledge of Allegiance and how "under God" was good enough for them in the context in which she answered.

You will defend every stupid thing coming out of her mouth because she's "outdoorsy" and probably makes your tummy feel funny. Either she is not very bright or really has a horrible way with answering questions to where she sounds like she isnt very bright. Perfect compliment to McCain. So, ready to publicly back McCain/Palin and their proposed policies or are you still on the fence (snicker)?

 

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