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  posted on 4/5/2017 at 10:46 PM
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/what-would-happen-in-the-minutes-a nd-hours-after-the-us-attacked-north-korea

What Would Happen in the Minutes and Hours After the US Attacked North Korea?

MIKE PEARL
Apr 5 2017, 2:30pm


That was interesting. A whole host of things could happen, that summary is probably pretty close to a logical sequence of events. Nothing is quite that predictable, or even within those outlined events a whole host of unexpected and surprising things could happen.

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 09:20 AM
Only China can stop the North Korea threat.
President Trump and President Xi Jinping are discussing the matter right now.

BTW - President Xi Jinping does not play golf... yet.


 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 11:27 AM
China
Internal coup
Dennis Rodman (take one for the team/world)

 

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  posted on 4/8/2017 at 08:10 PM
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China
Internal coup
Dennis Rodman (take one for the team/world)

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A military coup in North Korea would do quite nicely.
The Chinese could see that it happens and remain untouched.


 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 12:32 AM
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China
Internal coup
Dennis Rodman (take one for the team/world)

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A military coup in North Korea would do quite nicely.
The Chinese could see that it happens and remain untouched.




What's in it for China? They don't want to inherit that backwards and prehistoric country or create a mass exodus of North Koreas heading for their border.

Hopefully Trump and Xi Jinping had some constructive discussions.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2017 at 10:37 AM
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China
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Dennis Rodman (take one for the team/world)

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A military coup in North Korea would do quite nicely.
The Chinese could see that it happens and remain untouched.




What's in it for China? They don't want to inherit that backwards and prehistoric country or create a mass exodus of North Koreas heading for their border.

Hopefully Trump and Xi Jinping had some constructive discussions.

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"What's in it for China?"

Goodwill.

China desperately needs a good relationship with The U.S. and if China were to take care of the North Korea they would win a favorable reaction from the world.

Good PR never hurts.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2017 at 06:34 PM
My nephew is in Seoul.

that's all i'm saying

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 07:32 AM
I've always believed that what North Korea wants is attention so they act out to get it - it's worked, they have gotten lots of attention from prior Presidents - even aid from one President.

I also believe that another primary goal of theirs is survival of the leadership regime. If that is true one has to wonder what provocation event on their part would mean for the survival of Kim Jon Un.

What regime change means for a place like North Korea and what it would mean in a place like Syria are much much different. There is no radical ideology emitting from North Korea in the way that it does in the middle east. In the vacuum of a Sadam-less Iraq or a Gaddafi-less Libya, and as with a Assad-less Syria the chances of netting an actual worse result are pretty good. You go from a manageable situation to one that is unmanageable and results in more conflict and more war.

With North Korea I believe the opposite is true. With the leadership removed from NK the prospects of a more stable and peaceful region increase substantially. So long as China isn't bent on propping up the regime there. All they have to do is look the other way atleast.

Killing Kim Jon Un is the best thing that could happen there and North Korea joins the 21st century and enters a global economic system. South Koreans have seen huge economic success - it isn't that South Koreans are any smarter or innovative than North Koreans.

The world would be a better place without a dictator regime in North Korea and with cooperation from China and other Asian countries in the region the country could transform it's self and no longer be an adversary to us or other peaceful countries in the region.

I just do not know how the US can do that without something unraveling into a full blown war with NK - something that I don't want - I don't want any American to die having in what could be a difficult conflict. So there is the problem I see. I'm happy that China has seemed to take a couple steps away from North Korean support over the last couple weeks. What happens from here is anyone's guess.

Would be interesting to get your nephew's opinion on what the sentiment towards the North or the US is currently in Seoul.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 08:46 AM
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My nephew is in Seoul.

that's all i'm saying

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South Korea must be in a state of enhanced worry.

Kim Jong Un should not be someone who has control of nuclear weapons and a massive army.
China has the only power over North Korea and China is not stupid.
Xi Jinping is far more a businessman than a Communist dictator.

Keeping Kim Jong Un under control is in China's best interest.

Well that sounds logical anyway.



 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 09:33 AM
More war and death for profit.

Yay.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 09:51 AM
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More war and death for profit.

Yay.


Sometimes I see our military engagement in certain ways as being a tool to keep global commerce functioning and growing, essentially for foreign and domestic business interests.

On the other hand, I suspect you would agree, that there are real threats in the world that need to be taken seriously or addressed from a military perspective?

I mean, it can't all just be for somebody somewhere wanting to profit...can it in your eyes?

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 10:17 AM
Somewhere behind every cause, every crusade and every crisis, someone is getting paid.

I'm sitting here on an amazing morning in eastern Kansas and I'm supposed to get all excited and fired up and want to bomb or kill yet another dictator on another side of the world? A place I'll never go? A place I only know through pictures and images?

Whether by coup or by war...more war, more death, more profit.

Korea
Iran
Guatemala
Congo
Dominican Republic
South Vietnam
Brazil
Chile
Panama
Iraq

Now North Korea?

Yay?

quote:
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."


1. Lockheed Martin (LMT) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, space
Arm sales:$36.3 billion, total sales: $46.5 billion
Gross profit: $2.7 billion, total workforce, 123,000

2. Boeing (BA) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, space
Arm sales: $31.8 billion, total sales: $68.7 billion
Gross profit: $4 billion, total workforce: 171,700

3. BAE Systems -- aircraft, artillery, electronics, vehicles, missiles, ships
Arm sales: $29.2 billion, total sales: $30.7 billion
Gross profit: $2.3 billion, total workforce: 93,500

4. General Dynamics (GD) -- artillery, electronics, vehicles, small arms, ships
Arm sales: $23.8 billion, total sales: $32.7 billion
Gross profit: $2.5 billion, total workforce: 95,100

5. Raytheon (RTN) -- electronics, missiles
Arm sales: $22.5 billion, total sales: $24.9 billion
Gross profit: $1.9 billion, total workforce: 71,000

6. Northrop Grumman (NOC) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, ships, space
Arm sales: $21.4 billion, total sales: $26.4 billion
Gross profit: $2.1 billion, total workforce: 72,500

7. EADS -- aircraft, electronics, missiles and space
Arm sales: $16.4 billion, total sales: $68.3 billion
Gross profit: $1.4 billion, total workforce: 133,120

8. Finmeccanica -- aircraft, artillery, engines, electronics, vehicles and missiles
Arms sales, $14.6 billion, total sales: $24.1 billion
Gross profit: $ -3.2 billion, total workforce: 70,470

9. L-3 Communications (LLL) -- electronics
Arm sales: $12.5 billion, total sales: $15.2 billion
Gross profit: $956 million, total workforce: 61,000

10. United Technologies (UTX) -- aircraft, electronics, engines
Arm sales: $11.6 billion, total sales: $58.2 billion
Gross profit: $5.3 billion, total workforce: 199,900

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/03/10/10-companies-profi ting-most-from-war/1970997/

Top 10 Defense Contractors:
Total Arms Sales: $256,000,000,000
Gross Profit: $23,000,000,000
Total Workforce: 1,091,290

As the war machine keeps turning...

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 11:08 AM
Just because somebody is making, selling and profiting the tools and means used for war and defense doesn't mean that is always the underlying cause is for the sole sake of profit.

And nobody is saying you have to be fired up or care really, I mean if you would just rather enjoy your beautiful morning why would you want to bring yourself down by coming here to enter in this type of discussion?

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 11:11 AM
Sit down and shut up, is that it, Scott?

Cool. Don't wanna harsh your expertise. Enjoy the discussion.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 11:12 AM
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Somewhere behind every cause, every crusade and every crisis, someone is getting paid.

I'm sitting here on an amazing morning in eastern Kansas and I'm supposed to get all excited and fired up and want to bomb or kill yet another dictator on another side of the world? A place I'll never go? A place I only know through pictures and images?

Whether by coup or by war...more war, more death, more profit.

Korea
Iran
Guatemala
Congo
Dominican Republic
South Vietnam
Brazil
Chile
Panama
Iraq

Now North Korea?

Yay?

quote:
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."


1. Lockheed Martin (LMT) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, space
Arm sales:$36.3 billion, total sales: $46.5 billion
Gross profit: $2.7 billion, total workforce, 123,000

2. Boeing (BA) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, space
Arm sales: $31.8 billion, total sales: $68.7 billion
Gross profit: $4 billion, total workforce: 171,700

3. BAE Systems -- aircraft, artillery, electronics, vehicles, missiles, ships
Arm sales: $29.2 billion, total sales: $30.7 billion
Gross profit: $2.3 billion, total workforce: 93,500

4. General Dynamics (GD) -- artillery, electronics, vehicles, small arms, ships
Arm sales: $23.8 billion, total sales: $32.7 billion
Gross profit: $2.5 billion, total workforce: 95,100

5. Raytheon (RTN) -- electronics, missiles
Arm sales: $22.5 billion, total sales: $24.9 billion
Gross profit: $1.9 billion, total workforce: 71,000

6. Northrop Grumman (NOC) -- aircraft, electronics, missiles, ships, space
Arm sales: $21.4 billion, total sales: $26.4 billion
Gross profit: $2.1 billion, total workforce: 72,500

7. EADS -- aircraft, electronics, missiles and space
Arm sales: $16.4 billion, total sales: $68.3 billion
Gross profit: $1.4 billion, total workforce: 133,120

8. Finmeccanica -- aircraft, artillery, engines, electronics, vehicles and missiles
Arms sales, $14.6 billion, total sales: $24.1 billion
Gross profit: $ -3.2 billion, total workforce: 70,470

9. L-3 Communications (LLL) -- electronics
Arm sales: $12.5 billion, total sales: $15.2 billion
Gross profit: $956 million, total workforce: 61,000

10. United Technologies (UTX) -- aircraft, electronics, engines
Arm sales: $11.6 billion, total sales: $58.2 billion
Gross profit: $5.3 billion, total workforce: 199,900

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/03/10/10-companies-profi ting-most-from-war/1970997/

Top 10 Defense Contractors:
Total Arms Sales: $256,000,000,000
Gross Profit: $23,000,000,000
Total Workforce: 1,091,290

As the war machine keeps turning...


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I see your point.

As long as innocent people are being killed you are all in.
You are good with terrorism.
You are supportive of babies being murdered and having the tax-payers foot the bill.
The more black people that are killed in the cities run by Democrats the happier you are.

Understood.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 11:16 AM
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As long as innocent people are being killed you are all in.
You are good with terrorism.
You are supportive of babies being murdered and having the tax-payers foot the bill.
The more black people that are killed in the cities run by Democrats the happier you are.


You sound like a good guy.

What's your name? I'm Jerry.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 02:03 PM
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Sit down and shut up, is that it, Scott?

Cool. Don't wanna harsh your expertise. Enjoy the discussion.


Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm sending you a pm.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2017 at 09:39 PM
Maybe Trump could get Hillary,Obama,Pelosi,Kerry & Reid to go to North Korea and talk with him.I mean they all were sooooo great at what they did.When they had the rein's,the whole world was safe,sound,happy & united

 

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  posted on 4/17/2017 at 06:56 PM
I wonder if Kin Jung Un knows what it is like to be on the business end of a laser guided tweet.


 

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  posted on 4/17/2017 at 09:30 PM
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Maybe Trump could get Hillary,Obama,Pelosi,Kerry & Reid to go to North Korea and talk with him.I mean they all were sooooo great at what they did.When they had the rein's,the whole world was safe,sound,happy & united



We should send you to North Korea. If Dennis Rodman was well received, you will probably be offered a high position on his staff.

 
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