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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 02:47 PM
I few pros :
Cool venue
Sound was good
Jack Pearson was a breath of fresh air , he blew it up on Lizzy Reed

A few cons:
The crowd was very subdued, very little energy
Nothing real special to separate this show from any others

Personally this band could use a break, and if they come back , bring something new to the band.

[Edited on 4/24/2010 by jblizza]

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 05:57 PM
I have to agree.

I thought the band played well enough and the crowd was fine but I have to say the set list last night didn't really work for me. The slow tunes were coupled together and were too long.

I also have to say I wish they would stop playing Liz Reed for a while or limit it to the first set. Just my opinion, but I feel like this one goes on a little too long and this is only magnified at the end of the second set.

Other than a few really good moments (very good), I didn't feel this was Derek's best night either...understandable I guess after breaking his ankle.

Still a had a great time! but had to agree when I saw this post.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 06:16 PM
A 41-year old band, playing rockin' music, with a solid tens-so-thousands (sorry, maybe hundreds) fold following...

Hmmmm.....

Bring something new? If it ain't broke......

Guess I'm an old-school fan, but I can hear Sweet Melissa every single time I see them and never tire of it. And it's been a few times....

Any band that has been playing that long (long live Gregory Allman) deserves a break. But man, I can say that they (the entire band) sounds better than just three years ago. They deserve a break, but not because they need to work on getting better.

My $.02.

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 06:35 PM
Be careful MFG...complimenting Gregg Allman on this website may bring out the 'haters'.

For the record, I'm with YOU.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 06:48 PM
I do not see what the Bitchin is about you got to see the ABB and you got to hear Jack Pearson Rip it on Liz reed a win win as far as i am concerned doesent matter where it is...

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 06:49 PM
"The crowd was very subdued, very little energy "

You must have been at a different place than I was, because I thought the crowd was fantastic...tons of energy, on there feet all night (lone exception being part of Desdemona), random explosions of applause throught out the evening, basicaly just eating up what the band was serving up. It was what you would expect of a roomful of 3,000 diehard ABB fans. Maybe your impression had something to do w/ where you were sitting? My seats were in the Left Center section, 14 rows from the stage. Everyone around me was fully involved in the show and I could clearly hear and see all the folks in the rear and on the sides. I remember in particular the crowds applause at the end of one song, Desdemona I believe, being so loud and prolonged that Gregg did his customary "thank you" and started fiddling w/ the organ and finally he looked up again to acknowledge the crowd w/ an ear to ear grin that we couldn't control from spreading on his face. My wife and I both saw it and got a kick out of it.

Regarding the show, I thought the first set was fantastic, both the perfomance and setlist. Blackhearted Woman being the highlight, they f'ing destroyed the jam at the end of the song...alot of really cool stuff going on w/in the music...it was like riding a wave, it was coming and going and cresting...awesome. The second set however lost a bit of the focus and intensity of the first. All though all the guests were great (Jackie P was his usual mind blowing self, I don't really consider him a guest so much though) I feel that can take away from the show because it forces the setlist into certain songs. If you take out One Way Out and Southbound and replaced them w/ Dreams and Whipping Post in the second set w/ just the core band I feel like it would have been alot more impactful set. Still a solid set, just not anything amazing.

I had a great time at the concert last night, plus I got to hang out w/ alot of good folks from this website too, which is always alot of fun.


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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 06:52 PM
I think most people realize that Derek could have easily sat out last night, but to honor the band and the fans, he didn't.

I can see people feeling the sets lists have been static because of the lack of new music.

I wouldn't choose the Macon show to pick on though because it was a very different crowd. People were subdued because they all were listening. That show was about history and the present coming together to celebrate. The vast majority of the people in the room were there to listen as if it might be the last time.

I wasn't there but I suspect that was some of the reason for the lack of horsing around.

[Edited on 4/24/2010 by roboto]

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 06:56 PM
I thought the show was great. I could not see a lot but the sound was good. As far as the set list goes it was a good sampling of what this band plays. We had a first timer on our row who was hoping for Liz Reed and was ecstatic when it was played. Being just a few blocks from Rose Hill it had to be played. Macon was the 11th show this year and the 4th time Liz Reed has been played. They continue to add songs and rework some of the old ones. I'm so glad I got the tickets and drove the 3-1/2 hours to see this one.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 07:10 PM
In response to "why are you bitching" - its not bitching. I'm only discussing my take on the show.
I was genuinely surprised after seeing the show they pulled out Saturday night at Wanee, the museum opening earlier that day and the given what Macon means to the history of the band that the show was not more than what I considered to be pretty average. I also thought Derek didn't have one of his better nights particularly on Revival where he went pretty far of the reservation.
I'm not a "hater" but hey, I had been really looking forward to my first show in over a year and probably last for who knows how long, and wanted to discuss. Wasn't going to say anything at first but then I saw this thread and thought it was the most appropriate place to discuss.

By the way I thought the crowd around where we were was full of energy.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 07:38 PM
If they mixed in Midnight Rider in the middle of the second set and played Whipping Post instead of the drum/bass section, it would have been just what that Macon crowd had ordered (both were on the setlist). I would bet that Derek may have just run out of steam by that time. As it was, it was a very good show.

Surprising they played a number of tunes that are from their relatively recent cannon - Desdemona, Woman Cross the River, Blind Willie McTell, Who's Been Talking. They also just recently started playing All My Friends & that one got played - Tommy Talton shined.

I would have bet the setlist was going to be just tunes from the first 5 albums. I was wrong.

Will say this - Gregg sang BWMcTell and All My Friends with much more passion. I think he's comfortably found his groove in those now.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 08:22 PM
Last night was my first show and I wasn't disappointed...and Jack Pearson was the icing on the cake for me...if you're saying it gets better than last night, I guess I'm just going to have to go whatever shows they have left in them and see for myself, but I wasn't upset, I was grinning from ear to ear...my all time favorite band and I finally got to see them. Hallelujah!!! Love is everywhere!!!
 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 08:29 PM
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I didn't attend the show last night,but the City of Macon is WAY overrated. There's a couple of nice areas but all in all it's a cesspool.


Macon is not a cesspool. It's a sleepy southern town like so many others. The city is doing it's best to bring the downtown back to it's former glory - shopping, restaurants, bars, gardens, Friday nights on Main Street. The suburban sprawl is just like any other. Sure, there's some rundown ghetto type spots but, compared to any major city, these people are living pretty comfortably (couches on the front porch work pretty well when people can't afford to buy white wicker furniture). The classic Victorian homes are gems. The highways and streets are clean. People are genuinely nice. The food is rich and smooth.

They've got Barnes and Nobles, Panera, Starbucks and a multiplex for those who like modern life. There's also a "live bait" machine outside of Kroger's grocery store for those who fish. Old meets new.

There's a rich side of town and a poor side of town and they're not very far apart. There's a cemetary there with hillsides full of white wooden crosses marking the graves of numerous Confederate soldiers and dozens of classic sculptures at the gravesites, there's the muddy Ocmulgee River that runs through town next to the train tracks and the freight train whistles you hear at nighttime are almost as melodic as the birds that sing in the tall pine tress in the morning.

It's got the echoes of the early Allman Brothers Band, the Marshall Tucker Band, Otis Redding and Little Richard.

It has history.

Cesspool? I think not.




this was my first trip to Macon and you summed it all nicely for me thx Elizabeth

and being a fan of architecture I absolutely loved the old house, churches etc

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 08:48 PM
I love Macon. It's one of my favorite places to visit. We always have a good time
when we go. The music is great, which is the reason we go. People are always so
nice to us.

The last time we were in Macon was not planned. We were headed to Atlanta in
February and it started snowing really hard. Luckily, we were close to Macon and we got
off the highway and were very happy to spend the night there.

I was not in Macon for this weekend's festivities, but it looked very nice.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 09:22 PM
I did not think that the show had the same intensity of the Saturday night Wanee show. However,that was one of this line ups finest hours. I thought the crowd was very loud and certainly paid homage to the band. In regards to the band, I was expecting the same intensity from Wanee and was a little surprised that they did not lay down an EPIC show. Derek (understandably) was not his best and I know I am the excpetion with this opinion, Jack and Tommy really don't do it for me. Jack is a slick player and just has a noddling tone for my taste. If they Brothers have a guest guitarist, I prefer Mr. Jimmy Herring. The song selection at the end of the show was a little dissapointing and you could feel it in the crowd. I am quite certain that my opinion was skewed by the Saturday Wanee show. The band played like they were posessed that night! It ranked up there as one of my all time favorites.

It was great to see and interact with old friends and I met a bunch of mighty fine new friends. It was a fun night in Macon and another chapter in my ABB book.

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  posted on 4/24/2010 at 09:34 PM
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Derek (understandably) was not his best and I know I am the excpetion with this opinion, Jack and Tommy really don't do it for me. Jack is a slick player and just has a noddling tone for my taste. If they Brothers have a guest guitarist, I prefer Mr. Jimmy Herring.


Agreed. Jack is a fine player, but I prefer Derek...hands down. Tommy Talton....I just don't hear it, I know he has a history with Gregg and all, but going back to the Gregg Allman Tour Album/CD.... Tommy was by far the weakest link....pass

 

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Derek (understandably) was not his best and I know I am the excpetion with this opinion, Jack and Tommy really don't do it for me. Jack is a slick player and just has a noddling tone for my taste. If they Brothers have a guest guitarist, I prefer Mr. Jimmy Herring.


Agreed. Jack is a fine player, but I prefer Derek...hands down. Tommy Talton....I just don't hear it, I know he has a history with Gregg and all, but going back to the Gregg Allman Tour Album/CD.... Tommy was by far the weakest link....pass


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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 07:04 AM
This was my first show since 1994 so to say I was stoked to see them would be an understatement. It was me, my wife (we went to the last concerts in Macon in 1991) my 20 year old daughter and her boyfriend. We got there about 7 and wandered around trying to visit with some old friends, co workers and classmates. Our seats were in the balcony sec 204 and let me say they were great. Much better than being on the back of the floor as we were last time.
I thought the energy level was pretty good, especially at the start of the show. I must say that I expected Gregg to interact with the Macon crowd some, I know that isn't his nature so to speak. I thought the band sounded great and that Gregg's vocals were excellent, especially on Desdemona. Derek sounded great to me but did seem to be uncomfortable as can be understood.
My only dissapointment is that they didn't play "Dreams" or "Whipping Post". I know that some folks that follow the band and see them often might not expect to hear either of those but for those of who haven't seen them in a long time those are staples.
As the band came out and played a smoking "Southbound" and left the stage without so much a "goodnight" I just knew they would come back out and close with 'WP" but the crowd just clapped and started filing out. We stayed till the mic stands and drum kits started being torn down.
Still a fantastic show, so glad that my daughter got to see them play. God knows she has heard them enough growing up. It was a very cool vibe in the auditorium, almost a respectful and grateful atmosphere instead of a rowdy one.
I would hope that they would return next year, they could do a run at the Macon City Auditorium and sell out 5 nights.
As far as Macon the city? It has its problems, severe problelms. Lot of history, lot of great architecture, but a lack of leadership for decades. Macon and Bibb County are experencing the great "white flight" and business is following them out of town.

I for one am grateful that they came back to Macon and played. It was awesome.


 

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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 08:44 AM
Why do we always seem to look for the negative side of everything, instead of just being greatful for what we have in this life. I do this myself, but its such a sad thing. I just have to say, be glad you have anything at all!

Maybe this should apply to other peoples lives too.

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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 09:36 AM
I was going to say something about your 'cesspool' assessment of Macon. Then I realized that nobody else on this board could have your insight into what a cesspool is like.

So I guess that I will defer to your experience.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 09:47 AM
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Pretending that everything is always positive when it's not is a very negative way to go through life.



"...a very negative way to go through life."




Oh, that's rich. Don't even know where to start with the irony in that statement by you.

 
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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 09:50 AM
Macon, like every city, has it's good and bad. My opinion is that the good outweighs the bad. Are there problems? Yes. But having lived here for over 50 yrs I still love the place...especially in the springtime.
 

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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 09:51 AM
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"The crowd was very subdued, very little energy "

You must have been at a different place than I was, because I thought the crowd was fantastic...tons of energy, on there feet all night (lone exception being part of Desdemona), random explosions of applause throught out the evening, basicaly just eating up what the band was serving up. It was what you would expect of a roomful of 3,000 diehard ABB fans. Maybe your impression had something to do w/ where you were sitting? My seats were in the Left Center section, 14 rows from the stage. Everyone around me was fully involved in the show and I could clearly hear and see all the folks in the rear and on the sides. I remember in particular the crowds applause at the end of one song, Desdemona I believe, being so loud and prolonged that Gregg did his customary "thank you" and started fiddling w/ the organ and finally he looked up again to acknowledge the crowd w/ an ear to ear grin that we couldn't control from spreading on his face. My wife and I both saw it and got a kick out of it.

Regarding the show, I thought the first set was fantastic, both the perfomance and setlist. Blackhearted Woman being the highlight, they f'ing destroyed the jam at the end of the song...alot of really cool stuff going on w/in the music...it was like riding a wave, it was coming and going and cresting...awesome. The second set however lost a bit of the focus and intensity of the first. All though all the guests were great (Jackie P was his usual mind blowing self, I don't really consider him a guest so much though) I feel that can take away from the show because it forces the setlist into certain songs. If you take out One Way Out and Southbound and replaced them w/ Dreams and Whipping Post in the second set w/ just the core band I feel like it would have been alot more impactful set. Still a solid set, just not anything amazing.

I had a great time at the concert last night, plus I got to hang out w/ alot of good folks from this website too, which is always alot of fun.




[Edited on 4/24/2010 by RyanBelair]


Right on Ryan, a great night of music, fun and fellowship. A perfect music-filled weekend shared with some great friends from this website. Could not have been any better!

[Edited on 4/25/2010 by Wayne]

 

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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 09:56 AM
And I'm glad that so many folks enjoyed the show and the whole weekend.


I've only been to Macon once, during the 2004 Fox run. I've been following the ABB and related bands around the country for about a dozen years and my afternoon in Macon was the highlight of my concert-going career. Better than the few times I've been to Red Rocks, the gazillion times I've been to the Beacon and everywhere else I've travelled.

One of the best weekends of my life to be honest.

 
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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 09:56 AM
Friday was the first time seeing the band since 1991. I thoroughly enjoyed every minute. Wish that they had done a Whippin' Post encore, but Jack was great on Southbound! No complaints here.
 

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  posted on 4/25/2010 at 10:17 AM
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