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  posted on 5/18/2010 at 06:39 PM
So I pick up the new Rolling Stone, and there is a big 4-page article in there about those struggling, up-and-coming nobodies, the Black Keys The same issue also has a 4-star review of their new album, which is ironically titled...wait for it....Brothers.

Even more interesting, the interview basically takes place on their tour bus during the Wanee Festival. It puts the whole Moogis controversy in a new light. If you were literally interviewed for a big article in Rolling Stone earlier that same day, I can see how you might think you don't necessarily need the exposure Moogis would provide.

As they pull into Wanee, Pat Carney looks out the window of his bus and says, I quote...

"This is like my worst nightmare come to fruition."

Them's fightin' words! Anybody who doesn't like Wanee has a hole in their soul. I didn't appreciate the whole anti-hippie tone of the article, from the writer as well as the Black Keys.

Carney also has this interesting quote...

"Dan (Auerbach) and I aren't as cool as most dudes in bands. When we'd go to festivals and stuff, we never really fit in."

Again, makes the whole Wanee episode make more sense. Maybe it's not that they have anything against Butch specifically, or Moogis. They are just socially awkward and don't play well with others.

They basically come across as a couple of immature punk kids. The kind of people who think calling somebody a "dyke" or a "retard" is a clever putdown.

Anyway, let me get out of this thread before it spontaneously combusts...

 
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  posted on 5/18/2010 at 06:47 PM
Sorry to hear that, Rob. I have the new RS and never bothered with The Black Keys write-up because I've heard some of their stuff and was never interested. I'll sure read it now, though.

 

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  posted on 5/18/2010 at 08:10 PM
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They basically come across as a couple of immature punk kids. The kind of people who think calling somebody a "dyke" or a "retard" is a clever putdown.




Perhaps they were some of the recent new posters here

 

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  posted on 5/18/2010 at 09:01 PM
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They basically come across as a couple of immature punk kids. The kind of people who think calling somebody a "dyke" or a "retard" is a clever putdown.




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  posted on 5/18/2010 at 09:22 PM
The Black Keys are very interesting. They're from Ohio. They have a new cd out today. Their cd Attack and Release is great.

 

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  posted on 5/18/2010 at 09:55 PM
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Anybody who doesn't like Wanee has a hole in their soul.


Agreed.

Eff em!

 

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So I pick up the new Rolling Stone, and there is a big 4-page article in there about those struggling, up-and-coming nobodies, the Black Keys The same issue also has a 4-star review of their new album, which is ironically titled...wait for it....Brothers.

Even more interesting, the interview basically takes place on their tour bus during the Wanee Festival. It puts the whole Moogis controversy in a new light. If you were literally interviewed for a big article in Rolling Stone earlier that same day, I can see how you might think you don't necessarily need the exposure Moogis would provide.

As they pull into Wanee, Pat Carney looks out the window of his bus and says, I quote...

"This is like my worst nightmare come to fruition."

Them's fightin' words! Anybody who doesn't like Wanee has a hole in their soul. I didn't appreciate the whole anti-hippie tone of the article, from the writer as well as the Black Keys.

Carney also has this interesting quote...

"Dan (Auerbach) and I aren't as cool as most dudes in bands. When we'd go to festivals and stuff, we never really fit in."

Again, makes the whole Wanee episode make more sense. Maybe it's not that they have anything against Butch specifically, or Moogis. They are just socially awkward and don't play well with others.

They basically come across as a couple of immature punk kids. The kind of people who think calling somebody a "dyke" or a "retard" is a clever putdown.

Anyway, let me get out of this thread before it spontaneously combusts...


Let's take it easy! Did they drop "dyke" or "retard" in their interview?!?!?!

I'm about their age, and would never think of going to a festival. WHY? Because I can't stand the new age "hippies" who think never taking showers, and making their own clothes make their "lifestyle" mean something. My mom and dad, yeah, they're lifestyle meant something -- at least as they tell it to me. But, these days, the hippies I know -- 30 and younger -- use it as an excuse to get stoned and hammered, act like idiots, and be irresponsible.

Funny thing is, w/o knowing the Keys (or apparently ever listening to them. "Oh, they screwed Butch and Moogis over, so they MUST SUCK!!!" Funny, you don't like them, but you and others who don't like them are pissed b/c they're not on Moogis. A little consistency would be nice.), you're degrading them, b/c they don't like -- allegedly -- people at a festival, while all the while calling them homophobes and against those with Down's Syndrome (which my aunt has). An interesting stance for you to take while being self-righteous.

To say nothing of the fact that they're bringing BLUES to the young masses. And other than Back Door Slam / Davy Knowles, I don't know who else is doing that these days. I appreciate them just for that, if nothing else. And, I happen to like their music.

But that's neither here nor there. I find it infuriating that self-described mellow "hippies" will get all in arms when brothers don't like their vibe. I love the ABB music pretty much more than anything other than baseball, but like I said, I just can't get with the whole new age hippie scene, can't take people out of their minds at festivals, and REALLY can't take people calling me a "poseur" or whatever synonym you want for digging bands like the ABB but not liking the self-ascribed lifestyle.

It's not fair to the Keys or anyone else.

[Edited on 5/19/2010 by cmgst34]

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  posted on 5/18/2010 at 11:20 PM
RobJohnson forgets to quote Pat Carney, the drummer, saying to Auerbach who is just relaxing in the bus...''Sittin' here. I'm out there having so much fun...Allman Brothers.''

Obviously they have some respect and liking to The Brothers, and they did play the festival. You're going to judge them by what they say in an interview. I know, I forgot the Allmans have always said and done the right thing. They just sound like a couple of guys hanging out and having a good time. How do most guys act and talk when they're with friends and drinking?

I'm really surprised at the negativity towards them on this forum. I understand it might turn some people off by not having a bass player, but their last album ''Attack & Release'' and Auerbach's solo album ''Keep It Hid'' have a fuller sound. They have a heavy blues sound that reminds me a lot of Gov't Mule on their first two albums. I bet Warren is a fan, and I think Woody would have enjoyed them, bass or no bass.

Anyway, back to my original reason for posting. If you're going to post something negative they said about the festival, you should also post something that was pro Allmans as well.

[Edited on 5/19/2010 by kjw818]

 

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  posted on 5/18/2010 at 11:43 PM
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The Black Keys are very interesting. They're from Ohio. They have a new cd out today. Their cd Attack and Release is great.


The new album is very good as well , I bought the pre order and downloaded " "Brothers " last night , sounds great .

 

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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 12:03 AM
As i've said before about the Black Keys,I've tried to get into their music...just don't care for them at all...I'll read the article tomorrow.I wasn't going to read it at all but,now it might be interesting...

 

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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 12:29 AM
They must have seen some bass players and freaked out.

 

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"Did they drop "dyke" or "retard" in their interview?!?!?!"

Yes, they absolutely did. In fact, during the part kjw is talking about, where the one guy is giving the others a hard time for sitting in the bus, he says "You look like a bunch of old dykes." At another point, they speculate that since 295 million Americans are retarded, "That means you just need one out of 295 retarded people, and you've sold a million records."

kjw has a good point about balance, so some kind words are in order. I actually enjoyed their set at Wanee, and a quick check of previous threads on this topic will show that I haven't joined in bashing them for not joining Moogis. I like their music alright, sort of a cross between the White Stripes and North Mississippi Allstars. It was their behavior in the Rolling Stone article that turned me off, nothing else.

I'm one of those hippies you don't like cmgst, and I love the whole festival scene, so when you or the Black Keys blast my kind, no surprise that I don't like it. If someone called your favorite thing in the whole world "Their worst nightmare," I imagine you might be upset too.

You have a right to your opinion, I have a right to mine, which is Wanee is awesome

 
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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 08:12 AM
I called my brother a retard last night during the Hawks game.

 

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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 08:50 AM
When I read Butch's posts about The Keys, I thought geez Butch, was that necessary?

For some reason I have a free subscription to RS and I read the whole article to which Rob is referencing. And I can see how the Keys would rub some people the wrong way. They sound like jerks.

Which makes me wonder why they were booked for the festival anyway? Did the Keys' management tell them what kind of festival this is? And did whoever books bands for Wanee know who / what the Keys are?

 
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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 09:52 AM
I haven't seen the RS article but it sounds like the Keys come across as not so great. That's too bad, as I sort of dig their sound and think the negative vibe they attract here on the ABB forum is unfortunate.

I kinda like their raw bluesy sound and think it's great that a TON of people are being drawn to the blues through this band. I say good for them for building up a huge following and doing it their way.

On another note, didn't the ABB come across as bumbling hicks in a RS article back in the day? It might not have been the Key's fault that the RS article turned out the way it turned out. Just saying...

 

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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 09:55 AM
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On another note, didn't the ABB come across as bumbling hicks in a RS article back in the day? It might not have been the Key's fault that the RS article turned out the way it turned out. Just saying...



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folks, it's Rolling Stone....if you didn't see it with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears, it's hearsay...


 

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"Did they drop "dyke" or "retard" in their interview?!?!?!"

Yes, they absolutely did. In fact, during the part kjw is talking about, where the one guy is giving the others a hard time for sitting in the bus, he says "You look like a bunch of old dykes." At another point, they speculate that since 295 million Americans are retarded, "That means you just need one out of 295 retarded people, and you've sold a million records."

kjw has a good point about balance, so some kind words are in order. I actually enjoyed their set at Wanee, and a quick check of previous threads on this topic will show that I haven't joined in bashing them for not joining Moogis. I like their music alright, sort of a cross between the White Stripes and North Mississippi Allstars. It was their behavior in the Rolling Stone article that turned me off, nothing else.

I'm one of those hippies you don't like cmgst, and I love the whole festival scene, so when you or the Black Keys blast my kind, no surprise that I don't like it. If someone called your favorite thing in the whole world "Their worst nightmare," I imagine you might be upset too.

You have a right to your opinion, I have a right to mine, which is Wanee is awesome


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On another note, didn't the ABB come across as bumbling hicks in a RS article back in the day? It might not have been the Key's fault that the RS article turned out the way it turned out. Just saying...



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folks, it's Rolling Stone....if you didn't see it with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears, it's hearsay...




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I kinda like their raw bluesy sound and think it's great that a TON of people are being drawn to the blues through this band.



Agree with this too.

They're like a gateway drug, it gets folks interested in the Blues. I know folks have issues with John Mayer, but I look at him the same way. He exposes folks to the blues.

 

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I stopped and tried to listen to the Black Keys at Wanee. Just didn't do it for me. To each his own.

I absolutely love walking around and sharing the vibe at Wanee. After my first Wanee, I left really amazed at the overall vibe of the festival. Yeah, there are some wookies that need to bathe, go swimming or something, but they don't bother me. I kind of enjoy them, as the carefree, just have fun attitude is a welcome part of the festival. What straight male with a pulse can be offended by young girls with lighted hula hoops?

What really pisses me off is the loud, obnoxious, rude, frat boy types that can't hold their alcohol, could care less about the music, and that think it is their perogative to **** up other people's mellow. Far too many of them show up. Maybe that was the WSP influence?

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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 12:12 PM
One thing I dislike is the new age hippie vs. my parents hippie days are different because it meant something then vs. getting wasted without responsibility today. I honestly don't think it is that much different, there were just more of them and it was slightly more accepted in the 60s/early 70s.

Kids flocking to Max's farm in droves and/or Golden Gate State Park were not exactly sprinting towards responsible behavior of any kind. In fact they were fleeing the establishment, clean cut square world that I now live in but fled from from 18 to 23. We grow up and accept responsibility sometimes (sometimes we don't) just as your parents did. cmgst34 does not like being referred to as a poseur by festival kids who buck the establishment in the same sentence that he calls them poseurs for bucking the establishment as hippies because they are not as cool or real as his parents form of hippiedom.

I'm not telling you to like festivals or the kind folks he attend them. But to draw a straight line from hippies from 60s/70s to today and denounce today's hippie while praising yesterdays (presumably because your parents 'thought' they were hippies) is unfair in my opinion. Just say you don't like sleeping in a tent for 3 days in a Florida swamp experience a slice of heaven on earth!

As for the Black Keys, they're ok. Decent new sound but that's all it really is, a sound. After the first song or cover of She Said She Said it is all the same concept.

 

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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 12:37 PM
I'm just learning about them but these three songs won me over.

Psychotic Girl - Perfect in its simplicity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwmt-s7qqcU

So He Won't Break - Sweet meaningful song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdc1w8ypfVE

Oceans and Streams - Time to go - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1MSUWzCgJ0

I'll be getting their new cd. I've heard it is back to some stuff they used to do. apparently they got into some beat thing. Ha ha. They have some catchy original NEW songs. What's not to like?

Who cares if they don't like smelly hippies? Not me. Do you? I don't think so.

Rob not sure why you brought some words they actually had deleted from their interview to this board? Are you trying to say Butch's childish spoiled boy in a grown man's body I'm gonna destroy you rant was ok because they used some not PC words? Which I believe if I am reading the telling right, they asked the reporter to take out of the interview? (Or maybe I read wrong and you Rob used those words to describe words you believe the BK's would use, I don't know, it's hard to say as I haven't read the RS article.

Anyway, they sold out two evenings in Central Park, one right aw2ay. I'd like to see the ABB do that. Not saying they can't but I would like to see it happen. Then perhaps they could actually add some more new and interesting tunes to their play list. I can suggest a few Black Keys songs they could cover. How about this one.

The Same Old Thing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA6_lwJr1Hg

I am being perhaps unnecessarily snarky but it just worked so well I couldn't resist. Actually I loved some of the new songs the ABB added this year to the UP run. Even if they aren't original. And I am looking forward to Gregg's new cd. Can't wait.



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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 12:50 PM
This may be off base, but, when I read Butch's Black Keys 'attack' my first thought was 'Why was this seemingly being presented to the any band/management the DAY of the show???' Their decision is irrelevant, imo - the timing is the issue.

That, to me, speaks to a lack of organization, among other issues.

Hippies Old vs. Hippies new vs poseurs? Most people are cool, rational, and not evil. A handful are disrespectful, irrational dicks. I suppose that same breakdown applies to Hippies old or new.

 

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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 04:07 PM
The Black Whos???????????

 

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  posted on 5/19/2010 at 11:09 PM
Just read the article in RS. Obviously they did say the offensive or un-PC things during the interview but to me it came off as the author delivering/creating an image he wanted to create.

The BK write some decent songs and I do like their sound. I've heard people refer to them sounding like early Mule and one of my very best friends who loves the Mule/ABB (went to Wanee with him), etc. had said that to me before. But I don't know how you can compare a band to Mule who doesn't have a bass player. Have you heard Allen Woody?

I've seen them twice now, both at festivals. I have to believe I would enjoy the h*ll out of them in a tight, smaller room. Like the Vogue or Egyptian room here in Indy. They do not have enough going on to re-create their sound outside. They need that re-verb and raw energy bouncing off the walls. They are worth checking out. Regardless of Butch's opinion!

 

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