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  posted on 5/24/2010 at 11:40 AM
just wanted to get some feedback, cause somethings been bothering me the last couple of days....this is a question for all musicians, i play guitar (for over 20 years)...
when i play live either with my band, or at a blues jam, it seems like i'm
not "hittin the note" as i do when i play at home, but everyone will say my playing sounds really good (even when i ask some of close friends to be honest)....am i too self critical?
does anyone else feel this???



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  posted on 5/24/2010 at 11:46 AM
I think in group settings it is more difficult for all the musicians to be on the same wavelength.

 

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  posted on 5/24/2010 at 01:20 PM
I read an interview with Jerry Garcia in which he described being incredibly disappointed with some live Grateful Dead performances when they were done, but he later went back and listened to tapes of these shows and found them to be "crackling with energy". I finally gave up the compulsion to critique myself when playing live - as Casey Stengel once said, "How can you think and hit at the same time?" - but it was a hard habit to break. The live playing environment is so fluid and filled with variables that don't come into play when at home - two different animals. Now when I play live I try to always be in the moment and figure, what I've already played is over and done, and any amount of critiquing ain't gonna bring it back to be "corrected".
 

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  posted on 5/24/2010 at 01:48 PM
Yes . . .

 

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  posted on 5/24/2010 at 02:28 PM
Thinking and playing don't mix.
If someone compliments you, accept it graciously . . . then go home and practice
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  posted on 5/24/2010 at 03:36 PM
Use your ear first, you'll be fine.

 

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  posted on 5/24/2010 at 04:12 PM
From my 30+ years of playing around I would say most guitarist come to the gig in the wrong state of mind...Most that I have played with and the ones I talk with are always talking about everything but the song and music...Are my strings new....do I have the right amp...How's my tone...This room sucks....etc etc etc....

I play with guys who think their going to blow everyone away with their"licks", "tone" etc

I use the same setup for every gig. I set my amp up the same way every time I don't want to think about any of that crap...the room...my tone...etc...I want to think about the music and the song at hand. I've come to the point that if the people listening are responding, dancing then I say it's all good. My perspective of how I play has always been different then the people I talk with at the gig....I think will always be....so I don't go with just that anymore I try to take in both sides and come to some center about what really went on at the show. If I think it sucks and someone says it's the best they ever heard....well we're both wrong it didn't really suck and it probably wasn't the best thing he's ever heard so it falls somewhere in the middle.

The biggest thing I take with me to the show is..."I don't cure cancer I PLAY music" so have fun and don't take it as a life and death situation because it doesn't rise to that

 

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  posted on 5/25/2010 at 04:54 AM
Couple things to add to this great pow wow of informaiton.

1. If you're trying to sound good then you ain't figured it out yet. Try making everyone else in the band sound good. That right there takes the pressure you put on yourself away a bit. And it gets easier the more you do it. Play more sparse. Learn some variations on the chords for the song, not just the tabbed or chord versions. That doesn't mean you don't get your chance to shine. In fact, I get more nods from the band to go ahead and take my solo, stretch out a bit, by practicing this philosophy than "waiting for my turn to be up".

2. Having a great night is having the whole band on the same page and making it sound good. Will you get a whole night of having that go your way? Probably not until you have really spent some time listening to your band mates and knowing when, where and how they are going to play something on a certain tune.

3. Who's awesome? You're awesome. Show up with a great attitude. Don't worry about every dang thang. Are you there to be the raging **** guitar player or the cat who plays some mean guitar?

4. Record your gigs so that when you can listen and learn not only your parts from listening to yourself, but your band mates' cues and drops. Not to point out where they messed up but so that you can better anticipate what they are going to do next time and you'r enot surprised in the middle of a song.

 

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  posted on 6/7/2010 at 05:15 PM
Good responses.
My extra $0.02-
Like slowhand6 said, it's the band that has a good night in the end. I have found that playing regularly with people gets you to the point where you can trust each other on stage, and take chances both as a group and individually.

The best nights I have ever had have been when the whole group paid attention to each other and played with the music that was happening.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 09:04 PM
I am my own worst critic.

I'm really not a very good player....compared to others. BUT, if I just try to have fun and do what it is that I do best, which is stay in the pocket and play with nice note placement and tone, then I usually get no complaints.

Just don't ask me to solo or slap/pop.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 08:54 PM
Hey Dave how 'bout a Victor Wooten slap/pop solo?

 

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  posted on 6/10/2010 at 07:25 PM
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Hey Dave how 'bout a Victor Wooten slap/pop solo?
I'll ask him next time I see him and see if he'll do one...

 

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  posted on 6/11/2010 at 09:50 AM
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Hey Dave how 'bout a Victor Wooten slap/pop solo?
I'll ask him next time I see him and see if he'll do one...


plop snap(Rim shot)

 

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  posted on 6/11/2010 at 10:33 AM
Sorry, I just can't resist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyEu-hS0fA

 

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  posted on 6/12/2010 at 08:34 AM
My solo would sound a lot like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKCwH3amLaU

 

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  posted on 6/12/2010 at 08:52 AM
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My solo would sound a lot like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKCwH3amLaU


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