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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 10:46 AM

Tape of alleged racist rant by Gibson released
Male voice resembling actor's harangues on Grigorieva's appearance

by ANTHONY McCARTNEY
updated 7/9/2010 8:11:16 PM ET

LOS ANGELES — Mel Gibson is allegedly heard using a racial epithet and calling his ex-girlfriend a "whore" in a recording released by a celebrity news website Friday.

The two-minute recording posted by RadarOnline.com includes segments in which a voice sounding distinctively like the Academy Award-winner is heard telling his then-girlfriend, Oksana Grigorieva, that she is dressing too provocatively and that it would be her fault if she were raped. He uses the N-word at one point, and the recording is laced with his profanity.

Grigorieva recorded the actor-director because she was afraid he might harm her, the website reported. The actor is heard on the recording harshly criticizing Grigorieva for the way she dresses. He accuses her of lying to him about having breast implants.

"They just look stupid," Gibson tells her at one point in the recording. "Keep them if you want to. They look like a Vegas b----, a Vegas w----."

"You look like a (expletive) b---- in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of (N-word), it will be your fault," Gibson is heard telling Grigorieva. "You provoked it. You are provocatively dressed."

Alan Nierob, a spokesman for Gibson, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

A phone message left for Grigorieva's attorney, Marci Levine, was not immediately returned.

It is unclear when the recording was made or in what context. It opens with Gibson discussing breast feeding of their now 8-month-old daughter. Toward the end, Gibson indicates he is done with the relationship.

"I don't trust you," the actor is heard saying. "I don't love you. I don't want you."

The recording has shades of another scandal for Gibson — his use of anti-Semitic and sexist remarks during a drunken driving arrest in 2006. The actor-director later apologized for the statements, which were included in a report by a sheriff's deputy who arrested Gibson that was obtained by celebrity website TMZ.

The former couple have been locked in a bitter custody dispute in Los Angeles. The 40-year-old singer has accused Gibson of domestic violence, and sheriff's officials have launched an investigation.

Records in the court case, which may include the audio recordings, remain sealed.

RadarOnline has been posting text excerpts since July 1 of roughly 30 minutes of recordings of Gibson that she made before the pair broke up in April. Friday's posting was the first time that audio of the encounters had been released.

The recording released Friday is unlikely to be RadarOnline's last word on Gibson. Site founder and Executive Vice President David Perel told The Associated Press that more excerpts of audio that Grigorieva recorded will be posted to the site in coming days.

The site has posted text transcripts that include threats of violence and other racial slurs.

Perel said that RadarOnline has heard "a significant portion" of the recordings. He said the site has verified it is Gibson on the recording.

The website, owned by American Media Inc., which also owns the National Enquirer, did not say how it obtained the tapes. Perel told the AP the site did not pay for the recordings and that they did not come from Grigorieva.

Perel said the site felt it was an important story to publish, despite the disturbing content. He said in some of the recordings, Gibson and Grigorieva's 8-month old daughter can be heard screaming in the background.

The screaming is not present in the audio released Friday.

"We felt it was so newsworthy and so explosive we simply had to report what we heard," Perel said.

Rita Smith, executive director of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said Gibson was exhibiting the behavior of a "typical batterer."

She said there is likely to be significant backlash against Gibson, but whether there are real consequences for the actor remain to be seen.

"I think that people will be similarly outraged for awhile, like they were with Chris Brown, like they were with Alec Baldwin," Smith said. "This is one story out of thousands we hear every day."

Brown remains on felony probation for beating his then-girlfriend Rihanna last year. Baldwin was widely criticized for berating his young daughter in a phone message that was leaked during his divorce from Kim Basinger.

Smith said she hoped the incident would increase awareness of the dire straits of domestic violence shelters around the country, which are facing budget cuts.

"I think it would be better for Mel and for Oksana and for their future partners if there were some real consequences and some real change," she said.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 12:31 PM
I think Gibson lost it somewhere along the way. I certainly never thought he's the person he's proving himself to be.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 12:38 PM
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The former couple have been locked in a bitter custody dispute in Los Angeles.


This is the only line of the story I need to know. If all such disputes were made so public, no one would think anyone was the person they thought they were.

People say a lot of angry, irrational $hit when they are, well, angry and irrational.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 12:57 PM
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The former couple have been locked in a bitter custody dispute in Los Angeles.


This is the only line of the story I need to know. If all such disputes were made so public, no one would think anyone was the person they thought they were.

People say a lot of angry, irrational $hit when they are, well, angry and irrational.


Really? I have been in countless angry arguments in my 51 years and have never gone on a racist tirade.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 01:13 PM
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The former couple have been locked in a bitter custody dispute in Los Angeles.


This is the only line of the story I need to know. If all such disputes were made so public, no one would think anyone was the person they thought they were.

People say a lot of angry, irrational $hit when they are, well, angry and irrational.


Really? I have been in countless angry arguments in my 51 years and have never gone on a racist tirade.


Hey, I'm not defending him. Mel Gibson has no effect on my life. If people wanna skewer him, so be it.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 02:18 PM
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I think Gibson lost it somewhere along the way. I certainly never thought he's the person he's proving himself to be.


His Dad's even worse. Presumably that's where it comes from. Safe to say Mel's always been a despicable person.

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I think you nailed it. He had probably hid his thoughts well until his drunken driving anti-semite spiel, but he has more pressure in his life now (of his own making) and can't play the good catholic husband and father of many. It's time for him to go away and live quietly somewhere else.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 02:22 PM
I suspect Gibson always had these disgusting illiberal and bigoted views but was able to keep them to himself when he was younger.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 02:23 PM
I agree.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 02:55 PM
I love his movies but think he is a disgusting jerk of a person! Another example of someone claiming to be religious but displaying nothing but hate.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 03:41 PM

This is just a private conversation that got heated. We have all
been there. The only difference is that some A-Hole wasn't taping our conversations.
Just because Mel Gibson is famous doesn't mean he doesn't have the same human
emotion as the rest of us. We shouldn't even be privy to his private moments.
Like I said, we've all been there. We humans are not perfect.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 05:13 PM
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I think Gibson lost it somewhere along the way. I certainly never thought he's the person he's proving himself to be.


I think we would all be surprised if we spent time with anyone famous...we'd find out real quick that they are just human....with all the human faults we possess...hopefully not as bad as Mr. Gibson's. I think we would find some to be very down to earth and other to be total jerks...I'm a huge Duane Allman fan but I never meet him so I really don't know if we'd even see things in the same light...it's probably better that way....

We're all good people to some and and A$$holes to others

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 05:38 PM
It sounds as if his girlfriend made the recording because she had reason to fear him. I can't say it was wise to publicize it, I wouldn't have, but she did. If there hadn't been prior remarks by Gibson, the anti-semitic rant to be specific, I think people would be inclined to see it as a domestic matter......but unfortunately it appears to be revealing a very unpleasant side to Gibson.

 

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This is just a private conversation that got heated. We have all
been there. The only difference is that some A-Hole wasn't taping our conversations.
Just because Mel Gibson is famous doesn't mean he doesn't have the same human
emotion as the rest of us. We shouldn't even be privy to his private moments.
Like I said, we've all been there. We humans are not perfect.



I have never spoken to anyone like that at anytime. So we have not all been there.

 

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This is just a private conversation that got heated. We have all
been there. The only difference is that some A-Hole wasn't taping our conversations.
Just because Mel Gibson is famous doesn't mean he doesn't have the same human
emotion as the rest of us. We shouldn't even be privy to his private moments.
Like I said, we've all been there. We humans are not perfect.



Some are less perfect than others. If you say things like this, even in a rage, and even in a "private" conversation (hint - if it's a conversation, that means it's a shared thought. by definition it's not private)... well, forget mere imperfection, you're a profoundly sick, hateful person.

Not to mention the pattern of similar behavior that we've seen from Mel.


Totally agreed.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 07:03 PM
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It's time for him to go away and live quietly somewhere else.


Amen

 

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This is just a private conversation that got heated. We have all
been there. The only difference is that some A-Hole wasn't taping our conversations.
Just because Mel Gibson is famous doesn't mean he doesn't have the same human
emotion as the rest of us. We shouldn't even be privy to his private moments.
Like I said, we've all been there. We humans are not perfect.



I have never spoken to anyone like that at anytime. So we have not all been there.


You've never been in a heated conversation? Congrats.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2010 at 07:26 PM
Seems as if someone is taking some of his movie roles a little too seriously. I detect some 'Braveheart' overtones with a lot of 'Lethal Weapon.' If I had any doubts left about his character, those quotes finished it for me.

 

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Again, if your heated conversations sound like this, they can't be excused.

Please enjoy this awesome list of Mel Gibson's Greatest Hits:

- "I will report her to the **** ing people that take **** ing money from the wetbacks." — phone conversation with ex-girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva, about an employee

- "You look like a **** ing pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of niggers, it will be your fault." — phone conversation with Grigorieva

- "I am going to come and burn the **** ing house down... but you will blow me first." — phone conversation with Grigorieva

- "You know what, you **** ing deserved it." — to Grigorieva after she asked, "What kind of man is that who would hit a woman when she is holding a child in her hands, hitting her twice in the face?"

- " **** Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world… Are you a Jew?" — to male police officer during 2006 DUI arrest

- "What do you think you're looking at, sugar tits?" — to female police officer during 2006 DUI arrest

- "I want to kill him…I want his intestines on a stick… I want to kill his dog." —on New York Times reporter Frank Rich, who criticized The Passion of the Christ, to The New Yorker in 2003

- "I own Malibu… I am going to **** you." — to arresting officer during 2006 DUI

- "They take it up the ass. [laughs, stands up, bends over, points to anus] This is only for taking a **** ." —to Spanish newspaper El Pais when asked what he thinks of gays, in 1991

- "With this look, who's going to think I'm gay? I don't lend myself to that type of confusion. Do I look like a homosexual? Do I talk like them? Do I move like them?" —from the El Pais interview

- "I'll apologize when hell freezes over. They can **** off." —to Playboy in 1995, about whether he'd issue an apology to gays and lesbians, as GLAAD recommended

- "I am one tough **** and you can't bother me anymore. You ask anybody what their number one fear is and it's public humiliation. Multiply that on a global scale and that's what I've been through. It changes you and makes you one tough **** . What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." — interview with The Telegraph and perhaps the most frightening quote of all, explaining why, no matter how much we abhor, ridicule, and shun this man, we will never be able to get rid of him.




http://gawker.com/5582644/all-the-terrible-things-mel-gibson-has-said-on-th e-record


Hey, I'm not defending him. Sounds like he's a racist and a half.
All I'm saying is that in this instance, it was a heated conversation, or rant, or fight etc.
between him and his ex. Something that we all should never have been privy to.
Hell, I really don't even like his movies.

 

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This is just a private conversation that got heated. We have all
been there. The only difference is that some A-Hole wasn't taping our conversations.
Just because Mel Gibson is famous doesn't mean he doesn't have the same human
emotion as the rest of us. We shouldn't even be privy to his private moments.
Like I said, we've all been there. We humans are not perfect.



I have never spoken to anyone like that at anytime. So we have not all been there.


You've never been in a heated conversation? Congrats.



I have of course. I've managed to avoid using disgusting racial and ethnic slurs.

 

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Again, if your heated conversations sound like this, they can't be excused.

Please enjoy this awesome list of Mel Gibson's Greatest Hits:

- "I will report her to the **** ing people that take **** ing money from the wetbacks." — phone conversation with ex-girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva, about an employee

- "You look like a **** ing pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of niggers, it will be your fault." — phone conversation with Grigorieva

- "I am going to come and burn the **** ing house down... but you will blow me first." — phone conversation with Grigorieva

- "You know what, you **** ing deserved it." — to Grigorieva after she asked, "What kind of man is that who would hit a woman when she is holding a child in her hands, hitting her twice in the face?"

- " **** Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world… Are you a Jew?" — to male police officer during 2006 DUI arrest

- "What do you think you're looking at, sugar tits?" — to female police officer during 2006 DUI arrest

- "I want to kill him…I want his intestines on a stick… I want to kill his dog." —on New York Times reporter Frank Rich, who criticized The Passion of the Christ, to The New Yorker in 2003

- "I own Malibu… I am going to **** you." — to arresting officer during 2006 DUI

- "They take it up the ass. [laughs, stands up, bends over, points to anus] This is only for taking a **** ." —to Spanish newspaper El Pais when asked what he thinks of gays, in 1991

- "With this look, who's going to think I'm gay? I don't lend myself to that type of confusion. Do I look like a homosexual? Do I talk like them? Do I move like them?" —from the El Pais interview

- "I'll apologize when hell freezes over. They can **** off." —to Playboy in 1995, about whether he'd issue an apology to gays and lesbians, as GLAAD recommended

- "I am one tough **** and you can't bother me anymore. You ask anybody what their number one fear is and it's public humiliation. Multiply that on a global scale and that's what I've been through. It changes you and makes you one tough **** . What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." — interview with The Telegraph and perhaps the most frightening quote of all, explaining why, no matter how much we abhor, ridicule, and shun this man, we will never be able to get rid of him.




http://gawker.com/5582644/all-the-terrible-things-mel-gibson-has-said-on-th e-record


Hey, I'm not defending him. Sounds like he's a racist and a half.
All I'm saying is that in this instance, it was a heated conversation, or rant, or fight etc.
between him and his ex. Something that we all should never have been privy to.
Hell, I really don't even like his movies.



I like his movies. They are some of my favorites of all time. He is a disgusting excuse for a human being.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2010 at 07:36 AM
He is a horrible person, that's all. Anyone who says those sorts of things, at any time, is a horrible person. We've all been angry, we've all been terribly frustrated, but those words just never spring to mind. There is no excuse. It was clear years ago, in the way he treated others (women, gay men, etc.) that he is revolting, and this is just more proof.
 

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  posted on 7/12/2010 at 06:50 AM
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This is just a private conversation that got heated. We have all
been there. The only difference is that some A-Hole wasn't taping our conversations.
Just because Mel Gibson is famous doesn't mean he doesn't have the same human
emotion as the rest of us. We shouldn't even be privy to his private moments.
Like I said, we've all been there. We humans are not perfect.



I have never spoken to anyone like that at anytime. So we have not all been there.


You've never been in a heated conversation? Congrats.



I doubt that. He just doesn't use that kind of language when he talks to people. There are some that use some sense of control regardless of the situations they're in.

I've never said things like Mel did either. Can I congratulate myself then?

 

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This is just a private conversation that got heated. We have all
been there. The only difference is that some A-Hole wasn't taping our conversations.
Just because Mel Gibson is famous doesn't mean he doesn't have the same human
emotion as the rest of us. We shouldn't even be privy to his private moments.
Like I said, we've all been there. We humans are not perfect.



I have never spoken to anyone like that at anytime. So we have not all been there.


You've never been in a heated conversation? Congrats.



I doubt that. He just doesn't use that kind of language when he talks to people. There are some that use some sense of control regardless of the situations they're in.

I've never said things like Mel did either. Can I congratulate myself then?


Yes you can.


 

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  posted on 7/12/2010 at 10:25 AM
If you read between the lines, you'll see what a truly loving and caring man he is.
 

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  posted on 7/12/2010 at 01:54 PM
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If you read between the lines, you'll see what a truly loving and caring man he is.


exactly he really cares about natural boobs

 

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