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  posted on 4/25/2011 at 10:17 AM
Funny, I never realized that Molly Hatchet's "Dreams" was a cover of Buddy Miles' version of the song rather than of the original...

http://youtu.be/omNPPv6mhJY

Rather like it, I must say!

 
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  posted on 4/25/2011 at 10:59 AM
I like Buddy's, it's a sort of Otis Redding-ish take. I could never stand Molly Hatchett's version - the singer sounds like a Muppet.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2011 at 12:01 PM
The Buddy Miles Greatest Hits CD is a must have for ABB fans. Not only does it contain "Dreams" (the version that Molly Hatchet covered) but also a cool "Midnight Rider" and "Don't Keep Me Wonderin"" all with some killer horns. I believe on the liner notes Buddy states that after Hendrix passed, the Allmans were the only band putting out music that he found interesting. With the exception of "Them Changes" I don't believe that Buddy wrote much. However, it should be noted that he had the unique ability of making any tune his own. There is also an epic version of "We Got To Live Together" an old soul chestnut.

Now onto Molly Hatchet. Frankly, I think the first two or three albums were great. Molly Hatchet has been unfairly slandered by both artists and fans alike IMO. Ed King - "Southern Rock died the day the Molly Hatchet released their first record." I can't speak for the incarnation out there now but the original Molly Hatchet rocked the house! I saw the original Lynyrd Skynyrd three times and MH put on just as good a show. Danny Joe Brown was as charismatic as RVZ (if not the songwriter). Some people feel that once Skynyrd died, as they did when Led Zeppelin essentially died, that nobody had the right to ply those waters that both bands made famous. And everybody knows that neither were the original pioneers of those said waters. Loud guitar driven Southern Boogie as well as Loud English Blooze will always be around. I personally believe that "Gator Country" was a cool commetary on the bloated self-important scene that Southern Rock and Capricorn Records in particular had become at the time. Anyway every family has their black sheep ... and the folks that love 'em.

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  posted on 4/25/2011 at 12:22 PM
Even more bizarre - I never made an association between the two songs until I came to visit this site. I have to admit, a lot of times I don't really notice the cumulative meaning of the words, even in songs that I completely love. There are exceptions of course.

So, in a nutshell, I continue to enjoy each song to the extent I enjoy them .... and never decided to dislike the Hatchet version just 'cause it's Pop-Tart, and may blaspheme the ABB version.

Charlisnator - I think you mean Buddy Miles yeah?

 

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  posted on 4/25/2011 at 12:41 PM
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Charlisnator - I think you mean Buddy Miles yeah?


Oooops. Yes I did Rob. Could I hire you to keep me from looking stupid fulltime. Lol!

 

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  posted on 4/29/2011 at 10:07 AM
I remember seeing Molly Hatchet on the same bill as the ABB at a fest back in the 70's. MH did their version of Dreams. Later, the ABB came out and I remember Gregg saying "How 'bout that Molly Hatchet", sarcastically slamming the band for doing Dreams right before the Bros came on.

I also liked Molly Hatchett back in the day. They kicked ass. Really cool album covers also.



 

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  posted on 4/30/2011 at 02:18 PM
Hey Drummy the first two album covers were by the great Frank Frazetta (of Creepy And Eerie magazine fame.) Anyways Frank, Frank's wife or estate wanted more money for future use and so they went with other fantasy artist's work. Nothing like Frank though.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2011 at 07:20 PM
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Funny, I never realized that Molly Hatchet's "Dreams" was a cover of Buddy Miles' version of the song rather than of the original...

http://youtu.be/omNPPv6mhJY

Rather like it, I must say!



WOW !!!! Never that. And I was a fan of Band Of Gypsies.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2011 at 10:04 AM
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Hey Drummy the first two album covers were by the great Frank Frazetta (of Creepy And Eerie magazine fame.) Anyways Frank, Frank's wife or estate wanted more money for future use and so they went with other fantasy artist's work. Nothing like Frank though.



That is correct sir. I was also a big fan of the early horror comics you mentioned. Nobody did it like FF!!


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  posted on 5/1/2011 at 11:16 AM
While Frank was known for his fantasy art album covers his first album cover was quite different:







& I love Hatchet's version of "Dreams".

 

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  posted on 5/1/2011 at 01:18 PM
Syckler you are kidding ... right???

 

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  posted on 5/1/2011 at 03:46 PM
No not at all I love Hatchet's version.






Oh, the Herman's Hermits album cover. That was really done by Frank Frazetta.

Album covers

* Herman's Hermits - Both Sides of Herman's Hermits (1966)
* Dust - Hard Attack (1972)
* Nazareth - Expect No Mercy (1977)
* Molly Hatchet - Molly Hatchet (1978)
* Molly Hatchet - Flirtin' with Disaster (1979)
* Molly Hatchet - Beatin' the Odds (1980)
* Yngwie Malmsteen - War to End All Wars (2001)
* Wolfmother - Wolfmother (2006)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Frazetta#Album_covers

 

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  posted on 5/1/2011 at 08:45 PM
I have always like the Molly Hatchet version of Dreams and had never heard this version by Buddy Miles until now. I too didn't realize it was a cover of his version. I can now say I like all three versions.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2011 at 01:22 PM
The Buddy Miles and Holly Hatchet version of Dreams is a combination of the ABB "Dreams" and Otis Redding's "I've Got Dreams to Remember". Listen to both versions all the way through to get to the Otis Redding part. I believe Gregg was the only writer credited on the Molly Hatchet cut.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2011 at 02:04 PM
I LOVE Buddy Miles & I liked Hatchet's version of "Dreams"...In fact,I've always liked Hatchet more than Skynyrd,so I disagree w/Ed King....but,of course,the Bro's "Dreams" is THE one.....Oh,btw....I dug Herman's Hermits back in the day also.

Oh,& Ed....I liked The Strawberry Alarm Clock more than Skynyrd also.

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  posted on 5/6/2011 at 03:06 PM
I've long seen this discussed here, but never actually heard the Molly Hatchet version. Until now. I just looked it up and listened to it.

What a hatchet job. Hardy har har.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2011 at 04:14 PM
Looked up the Molly Hatchet and Buddy Miles versions I like Buddy Miles one better.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2011 at 09:29 PM
i like molly hatchets version. to be honest it took me years to realize it was the same tune as the ABB song.
 

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  posted on 5/7/2011 at 07:09 AM
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i like molly hatchets version. to be honest it took me years to realize it was the same tune as the ABB song.


Some still prefer to think that it isn't.

Doesn't hurt me too hear their version but wouldn't pick it. Radio up here never really picked up on it so I rrely hear it. I do like the first couple of MH records.

 

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  posted on 5/7/2011 at 10:22 AM
The past few Hatchet cds have been pretty good too. Bobby Ingram has done a good job keeping it going. Is it the same thing, nope. Still a great listen. I put it on for the music and the name doesn't really mean that much if ya think about it. Some put way too much emphasis on who is or who isn't in this or that band.

I like Hatchet's version of "Dreams" but it's not the ABB. Two different bands, so you'd expect a different take on it.

 

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  posted on 5/7/2011 at 10:46 AM
I've never cared for the MH version of Dreams. If they wanted to play White Rabbit they should have just played it! It totally destroys the feel of the original; I think a song called Dreams ought to have maybe a well, dreamy feel to it?

It's not that it's bad; the jam is good, and they could have written some lyrics of their own and had their own song, it's that different.

The soundman for my rock band loves it, though. He blasts it through the PA at soundcheck every gig, knowing how I feel about the ABB and this particular version of Dreams. I'll start singing "one pill makes you larger...".

 

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  posted on 5/7/2011 at 02:51 PM
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i like molly hatchets version. to be honest it took me years to realize it was the same tune as the ABB song.


Some still prefer to think that it isn't.

Doesn't hurt me too hear their version but wouldn't pick it. Radio up here never really picked up on it so I rrely hear it. I do like the first couple of MH records.


i at least respect the fact MH didn't just copy the ABB version exactly as it is

 
 


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