Don't click or your IP will be banned


Hittin' The Web with the Allman Brothers Band Forum
You are not logged in

< Last Thread   Next Thread ><<  1    2  >>Ascending sortDescending sorting  
Author: Subject: Martin 000-18

Sublime Peach





Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 08:54 PM
Lookiing for a Martin 000-18, willing to trade out my 60's reissue coppertop Les Paul. I realize this is not a discussion topic, but I'm currently involved in trying to materialize a good fingerstyle axe, and the 000-18 is it. Maybe one out there gathering dust because someone only plays electric anymore?
 
Replies:

Peach Extraordinaire



Karma:
Posts: 4627
(4695 all sites)
Registered: 4/13/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 09:03 PM
I love the 000 size guitars. The 000-18 is a great guitar good luck on your search



Check out http://www.myfavoriteguitars.com

They have a lot of great martins

 

____________________
Believin' is alright just don't believe in the wrong thing....Sonny Boy Williamson

 
E-Mail User

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2854
(2854 all sites)
Registered: 8/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 09:08 PM
Thats a nice axe Bones, a little bright sonically for me personally, but the 000 are dang good axes bro. Happy hunting. Just MHO of course, but when I went fingerpicking seriously around 2000, I found a high end Takemene that I love dearly to this day. Got a little less rosin in the finish and the tone is slightly warmer. Martin necks never fit my hand that good.

 

____________________
"Leave the Ego at Home, Play the Music, Love the People "-Luther Allison.

"Troops be awful quiet tonight, is it early or what? Too high. Me too." Duane Allman

Life Aint what it seems, its a Boulevard of Broken Dreams

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 09:12 PM
quote:
I found a high end Takemene that I love dearly to this day. Got a little less rosin in the finish and the tone is slightly warmer. Martin necks never fit my hand that good.


2 questions: Is that Taka pretty much a 000 copy ? and what's up with that V-neck on the martin 000, is it a bummer or what?

I have this old beater Yamaha FG 331 that is a 000 copy, and oddly enough it is a cannon, but the strings too close together at the bridge.

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2854
(2854 all sites)
Registered: 8/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 09:21 PM
#!) Yep, it pretty much is...only difference is the Tak has a cutaway, which Martin does now I think, but not back in that time. I could be wrong.
#2) Martin called it their "shaved neck" and it was really for better action. They had kinda bulky necks and med or heavy gauge strings and they just killed me after about an hour. The V neck is kinda similiar, and this is just my take on it, to some of the fender necks...nice, had good action but the radius felt funny to me...but that's just me. It is definitely playable.

 

____________________
"Leave the Ego at Home, Play the Music, Love the People "-Luther Allison.

"Troops be awful quiet tonight, is it early or what? Too high. Me too." Duane Allman

Life Aint what it seems, its a Boulevard of Broken Dreams

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 09:24 PM
that cutaway would be sweet for fingerstyle, what's the model # of that Taka
 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2854
(2854 all sites)
Registered: 8/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 09:27 PM
dont remember, I'll go to the shack and check it out and let ya know. Taylor also makes a nice axe.

 

____________________
"Leave the Ego at Home, Play the Music, Love the People "-Luther Allison.

"Troops be awful quiet tonight, is it early or what? Too high. Me too." Duane Allman

Life Aint what it seems, its a Boulevard of Broken Dreams

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 09:31 PM
Those taylors are really nice. I ran across a Chinese guitar "Eastman" that blew me away, but it killed me to think of all these great american guitar makers going hungry just so I could get a chinese axe at a third the price. I don't know how they make them so good, they must have some Martin defectors over there or something. You gotta draw the line on China somewhere, don't let them kill our last great craft traditions.
 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1707
(1707 all sites)
Registered: 5/25/2007
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/8/2011 at 09:47 PM
The Chinese have been making superlative stringed instruments for several thousand years, trust me, they have nothing to learn from Martin...

That said, support American instrument makers, it's the right thing to do!






 

____________________


 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 11:56 AM
quote:
The Chinese have been making superlative stringed instruments for several thousand years, trust me, they have nothing to learn from Martin...


good point. They were probably making stringed instruments when Europeans were still painting themselves blue and using enemy skeletons for xylophones.

But can they play the blues?

( the point being a "perfect" instrument may not have the ghosts that an American guitar maker might build into the machine. Ever see "From Mao to Mozart" ? But this veers into the metaphysical, and it becomes anyone's guess at that point. )

[Edited on 9/9/2011 by scrambldybones]

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 793
(793 all sites)
Registered: 3/23/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 11:58 AM
a friend of mine has a 1960 000-18..the thing is the balls for fingerpicking..good luck in your search..you won't be disappointed
 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 12:00 PM

Saw a totally beat up 1960 000-18 on Ebay, already pushing $800 with a week to go. They are not giving these things away.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20198
(20258 all sites)
Registered: 2/9/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 03:09 PM


My Martin 000-16.....Love it. Wanted an 18, but saved about $750 buying this "lesser" model. Play them both and decide.....Good luck with the purchase..

 

____________________

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 03:59 PM
That is a beauty. Truly.

What's the difference between 000-16 and 000-18 ? Wood ? Bracing ? Usually if it's just more bling I'll look for the simpler one.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20198
(20258 all sites)
Registered: 2/9/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 08:47 PM
quote:
That is a beauty. Truly.

What's the difference between 000-16 and 000-18 ? Wood ? Bracing ? Usually if it's just more bling I'll look for the simpler one.


Thanks. I played both at the time of purchase (3 trips actually) just thought the 16 was more bang for the buck. I went to the Martin forum and pulled out my specs as well; here's what I came up with: The neck joints are different, the 18 is smaller in scale by .05, Spanish cedar neck (16) vs. Mahogany and the 18 has a nitro gloss finish...
.



Martin has (or used to) a secondary label, "Sigma" that also puts out a Concert sized guitar....They are of good/ex quality and can literally be stolen off ebay for less than $175....

 

____________________

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2854
(2854 all sites)
Registered: 8/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 08:59 PM
Sweet axe Vince. Bet she has tone a week long. Is She bright tonally? Use her for blues,bluegrass or a little bit of a whole lot of everything?

 

____________________
"Leave the Ego at Home, Play the Music, Love the People "-Luther Allison.

"Troops be awful quiet tonight, is it early or what? Too high. Me too." Duane Allman

Life Aint what it seems, its a Boulevard of Broken Dreams

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2854
(2854 all sites)
Registered: 8/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 09:06 PM
quote:

Saw a totally beat up 1960 000-18 on Ebay, already pushing $800 with a week to go. They are not giving these things away.


Not trying to get in your biz Scotty, but be wary...acoustic axes are "finnikey" at best and unless you can send it back for full refund if it aint up to par be leery brother.

 

____________________
"Leave the Ego at Home, Play the Music, Love the People "-Luther Allison.

"Troops be awful quiet tonight, is it early or what? Too high. Me too." Duane Allman

Life Aint what it seems, its a Boulevard of Broken Dreams

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 09:15 PM
quote:
Not trying to get in your biz


If I didn't want anyone in my biz what good would it do me to start up a thread about it ?
Thanks a LOT for your advice! A lifesaver actually, because I've been all up and down the
web lookin for this guitar, TOTALLY forgetting my # 1 rule, never buy a guitar without playing
it first. Which means I gotta get up to Portland and hit some guitar stores. Gotta play em
first. I was getting all distracted by all those incredible axes, man, I used to laugh at my
friends who got caught in the web guitar browsing thing, now I know, it's a trap.

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2854
(2854 all sites)
Registered: 8/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 09:25 PM
Yep, ole dummy got burned one time, so I just wanted to share that advice with ya brother. Appreciate you understanding where I was coming from.

 

____________________
"Leave the Ego at Home, Play the Music, Love the People "-Luther Allison.

"Troops be awful quiet tonight, is it early or what? Too high. Me too." Duane Allman

Life Aint what it seems, its a Boulevard of Broken Dreams

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20198
(20258 all sites)
Registered: 2/9/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 09:55 PM
quote:
Sweet axe Vince. Bet she has tone a week long. Is She bright tonally? Use her for blues,bluegrass or a little bit of a whole lot of everything?


Good questions all. It took a few years with this one before she made clear her best voice... I keep it tuned to open D and have reversed the saddle making the action just high enough for bottleneck, but good enough for finger-picking as well...It was the mid range tone that I connected with....For a Concert sized 000...I can get good and swampy.....gritty


quote:
I gotta get up to Portland and hit some guitar stores. Gotta play em first.


Make a day of it....go for it. Buy the guitar that speaks to you, you'll just know...take your time....

and finally, show us the photos

 

____________________

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/9/2011 at 10:00 PM
quote:
Make a day of it....go for it. Buy the guitar that speaks to you, you'll just know...take your time....

and finally, show us the photos


Will do. I'm hung up on those martins, but I do a lot of high melodic, and letting notes ring, and
found out some folks recommending the Larrivees for that.

It won't be too soon, gonna take my time on this one. Gotta get the right one. Finances be d_med
gonna get the axe I deserve

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20198
(20258 all sites)
Registered: 2/9/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/10/2011 at 12:20 AM
quote:
I'm hung up on those martins, but I do a lot of high melodic, and letting notes ring


Well then, Imho....Play a Martin (find one) 000-16(18) with Rosewood, ...Brazilian, Indian.. whatever...a much more dense hardwood...."ringing notes"?...just what the doctor ordered. I'm also of the opinion that the type of wood used contributes greatly to the tonal quality you are looking for.....

Can I make one more suggestion?...don't be concerned with "who" made it... Look at the construction closely with your own eye and sense of quality...I mean, a Taylor isn't necessarily any better than "this one", just because it's a Taylor...you might be surprised by the guitar that picks you....Play a variety of wood couplings....Spruce/Maple...or Cedar/mahogany.. I'll wager you like the rosewood...

 

____________________

 

Peach Extraordinaire



Karma:
Posts: 4627
(4695 all sites)
Registered: 4/13/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/10/2011 at 12:36 AM
The current 16 series guitars are not an all natural wood guitar. The fretboard and tail piece are not wood but some kind of processed paper material(So I guess it was wood at one time). Ritchlite I think it's called. The 18 series are all wood guitars and are a big step up in structure(bracing & Neck joint) and wood selection. Solid Mahogany Bodies with Stika spruce tops Indian Rosewood fretboard and tail piece. The 18 series also has the dovetail neck joint which is a significant upgrade from the 16 series mortise/tenon. If you can find a pre 2002 16 series they will have ebony fretboard and tailpiece. I have a 2001 000-16SGT 12 fret....great guitar but the 000-18 is a big jump in instrument quality and then the jump to the 28 series is the next big jump in quality

 

____________________
Believin' is alright just don't believe in the wrong thing....Sonny Boy Williamson

 
E-Mail User

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7925
(7925 all sites)
Registered: 7/18/2010
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/10/2011 at 02:50 PM
quote:
don't be concerned with "who" made it... Look at the construction closely with your own eye


man, is that ever good advice. (In any aspect of life really). Too easy to be a brand junkie. Trouble is, the guitar that has jumped out at me, right here in a local store, is a Chinese Eastman brand, and I gotta stand fast. Ok, I'll buy Chinese this or that at Walmart, but not a guitar, not new anyway, it has to be North American.

I'll step careful and try the combos you've mentioned.

And thanks for the detailed breakdown, goldtop ! there's a lot of savvy guitar players around here.

Thanks amigos

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2854
(2854 all sites)
Registered: 8/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 9/10/2011 at 04:40 PM
the more 'real quality tonal wood used' will be reflected on the price tag also bones. Heck, look at some Epiphone's. Their quality has improved greatly and they are affordable. Just a thought bro.

 

____________________
"Leave the Ego at Home, Play the Music, Love the People "-Luther Allison.

"Troops be awful quiet tonight, is it early or what? Too high. Me too." Duane Allman

Life Aint what it seems, its a Boulevard of Broken Dreams

 
<<  1    2  >>  


Powered by XForum 1.81.1 by Trollix Software

Privacy | Terms of Service | Report Infringement | Personal Data Management | Contact Us
The ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND name, The ALLMAN BROTHERS name, likenesses, logos, mushroom design and peach truck are all registered trademarks of THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. whose rights are specifically reserved. Any artwork, visual, or audio representations used on this web site CONTAINING ANY REGISTERED TRADEMARKS are under license from The ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. A REVOCABLE, GRATIS LICENSE IS GRANTED TO ALL REGISTERED PEACH CORP MEMBERS FOR The DOWNLOADING OF ONE COPY FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY. ANY DISTRIBUTION OR REPRODUCTION OF THE TRADEMARKS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROHIBITED AND ARE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED BY THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO.,INC.
site by Hittin' the Web Group with www.experiencewasabi3d.com