Bhawk
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 07:40 AM |
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Rock Hall of Fame 2012 nominees announced
She loves rock and roll. You know that from her 1982 hit song.
And now Joan Jett is among the the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees for 2012.
Women feature prominently among the first-time nominees, reports AP, and include Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, and Heart. Previous nominees up again include The Beastie Boys, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Donna Summer, Laura Nyro, Donovan and War.
The complete list:
· Beastie Boys
· The Cure
· Donovan
· Eric B. & Rakim
· Guns 'N Roses
· Heart
· Joan Jett and The Blackhearts
· Freddie King
· Laura Nyro
· Red Hot Chili Peppers
· Rufus with Chaka Khan
· The Small Faces/The Faces
· The Spinners
· Donna Summer
· War
An act must have released its first single or album 25 years ago to qualify for induction. More than 500 voters will determine who makes the hall. New members will be inducted at a ceremony at the hall of fame in Cleveland on April 14. Individual tickets for the Induction Ceremony will go on sale to the public in December 2011. Visit rockhall.com for details.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/09/rock-hal
l-of-fame-2012-nominees-announced/1
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jszfunk
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 07:50 AM |
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johnj
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 07:51 AM |
A joke once agian
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johnj
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 07:53 AM |
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No Deep Purple???!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Nope and they never will. Same with Rush , Yes, Tull ,Priest, Maiden and Kiss. Donna Summer ? F-n Joke
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BarrySmith
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 posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:22 AM |
Lame choices of course, but there are a few acts here I would like to see in!!
I'd love to see Donovan, Guns 'N Roses
Definitely the Faces!!!!
Joan Jett and The Blackhearts sounds good.
Sorry about my ignorance but what is Eric B Rakim?
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Russvergara
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:35 AM |
Some deserving some NOT ! Why in the world isn't Chicago included? Where is Al Kooper? C'mon folks .
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woodsdweller
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:39 AM |
Donna Summer???? WTF.....
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Bhawk
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:49 AM |
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Bhawk
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:54 AM |
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Sorry about my ignorance but what is Eric B Rakim?
Well, if the world of hip-hop/rap is going to be represented in the Hall, then they definitely deserve to be in. Eric B. & Rakim were extremely influential as far as rhyming styles, the relationship between a MC and a DJ, as well as being real pioneers in the area of sampling. They established a base on which a lot of artists that came after them grew off of.
I know that's not a musical style too popular around these parts, but IMO they deserve to be on a list that covers their genre, definitely. ____________________
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Bhawk
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:57 AM |
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No Deep Purple???!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Nope and they never will. Same with Rush , Yes, Tull ,Priest, Maiden and Kiss. Donna Summer ? F-n Joke
None of the bands you listed will help sell tickets to the induction ceremony or the concert. I'm 100% convinced that's the main driver of these nominee lists.
That and Jann Wenner's personal biases. That's what one of the things that cracks me up about the exclusion of the MC5. He put them on the cover of Rolling Stone before their first album even came out. ____________________
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:57 AM |
Heart should be a shoe in.... but NO GRAND FUNK RAILROAD? again? they are the most highest grossing act of the 70's they put out 4 lps in a 14 month span all gold, they broke the beatles record of selling out shea stadium and were probably the best live act of the 70's ..
No DEEP PURPLE? what a freekin joke.... simply one of the most original rock and roll bands of all time and still going strong
No TEN YEARS AFTER? folks this rock and roll hall of fame is a pure and simple joke they can kiss wait NO KISS? my A$$..... ____________________
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Bhawk
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:59 AM |
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Rock Hall of Fame Fallout: 'There Is Resentment
Building Up'
Our story on Monday about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation has resonated in the music industry. FOXNews.com reported that foundation director Suzan Evans is paid $300,000 a year, has a huge expense account and that the foundation itself seems only to exist to throw a huge private party every year at the Waldorf. They do virtually nothing to help musicians in need. Why they have non-profit charitable status with the IRS seems to be an unresolved question.
The response to the story was overwhelming. A former board member, speaking only with the promise of anonymity, told me: "It's a club, and she's their groupie. It's all about power and hanging around with rock stars. Record companies have been getting a bill every year from the foundation of $8,000 or $10,000 apiece. They're starting to question what it's for ? just for giving the dinner. Record companies are having massive layoffs this year. The money could go elsewhere. These were handshake deals made long ago, and now there is resentment building up."
This year's Waldorf dinner didn't win many allies over to the Rock Hall's side, anyway. One observer noted that two former power players in the business who used to be favored by Evans ? Bob Krasnow and Michael Leone ? "were seated as far and out of the way as could be possible. It's all about who's in power now. And that's the Sony guys. They were front and center."
Evans was cited for taking unnecessary trips on the foundation's dime, particularly to places like the Midem conference in Cannes. "Think of the cost of first-class accommodations. The Carlton hotel, first-class air tickets. And to do what? There's nothing in Cannes that has to do with the Hall of Fame."
We received this letter from a former board member. Here it is:
"Thank you for your insightful article on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am a veteran music journalist who spent two years on the Hall's nominating committee and saw from the inside some of the politics at work.
"I saw how artists were sometimes chosen for nomination because of their affiliations with the directors of the Hall and others were shot down without so much as a moment of consideration simply because some people in that room didn't like them personally or because an artist had bad blood with someone calling the shots.
"At one point Suzan Evans lamented the choices being made because there weren't enough big names that would sell tickets to the dinner. That was quickly remedied by dropping one of the doo-wop groups being considered in favor of a 'name' artist.
"During my second year on the committee, I received a petition signed by 5000 fans of the Moody Blues requesting that the group be considered for nomination. Personally I am not much of a fan, and neither, apparently, was anyone else on the committee (at least no one who would admit it). Still, I felt they were a legitimate contender for the nomination and that it was my duty to present the petition since so many people had taken a lot of time to put it together. I plunked it down on the conference table to a great roar of laughter from the assembled bigshots.
"Jon Landau, Springsteen's manager, asked me if I personally was a fan of theirs. 'Not really,' I said. 'End of discussion,' he said.
"On the other hand, I saw how Atlantic Records artists were routinely placed into nomination with no discussion at all, due to the large concentration of Atlantic executives on the committee. I saw how so-called critical favorites were placed into nomination while artists that were massively popular in their time were brushed off. I saw how certain pioneering artists of the 50s and early 60s were shunned because there needed to be more name power on the list, resulting in 70s superstars getting in before the people who made it possible for them. Some of those pioneers still aren't in today ? but Queen is.
"I was finally kicked off the committee after writing a guest editorial for Billboard in which I criticized the Hall for its insider ways.
"Almost ten years later nothing has changed."
This article was written in 2001... ____________________
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 09:45 AM |
| Guns and Roses should be an interesting induction considering pretty much everything. ____________________
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 09:58 AM |
| The multiple inductions are kind of silly, IMO. They've nominated The Faces, but Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood are already in. No slight to Ronnie Lane and Kenney Jones intended, but... ____________________
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 10:04 AM |
Every year I look at the list and just shake my head. Beastie Boys? Are you effin kidding me? How is that Rock N Roll?
About time for Freddie King. 
No SRV is just so wrong.
No MTB either. Not sure they were mainstream enough for the RRHOF. Still doesn't excuse it. ____________________
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 10:05 AM |
I agree a separate band should get consideration, even if individual members are already in.
Deep Purple, Yes, Rush, Chicago - absolutely. No brainers really. I can see the case made for Grand Funk as well even if I'm not personally a big fan. I think Iron Maiden deserves as well.
Of this year's group, Red Hot Chilli Peppers definitely deserve it. Very influencial band. The original Heart band also.
Joan Jett? Did anyone take her seriously the first time around? ____________________
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Buppalo1
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 10:07 AM |
lame
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Bhawk
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 10:09 AM |
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Beastie Boys? Are you effin kidding me? How is that Rock N Roll?
Rock and Roll enough to help sell tickets to the induction concert. ____________________
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musicmann
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 10:23 AM |
Lame list indeed.
My vote goes to Donovan, if only for the fact that John Lennon credtis him for teaching him how to finger pick on acoustic guitar. ____________________
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TuffJew
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 10:36 AM |
What a joke of a list--exceptions being Freddie King and Laura Nyro----it's about CONTRIBUTIONS, INFLUENCE, TALENT, RESPECT, STAYING POWER!!!
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matt05
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 11:11 AM |
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I agree a separate band should get consideration, even if individual members are already in.
Deep Purple, Yes, Rush, Chicago - absolutely. No brainers really. I can see the case made for Grand Funk as well even if I'm not personally a big fan. I think Iron Maiden deserves as well.
Of this year's group, Red Hot Chilli Peppers definitely deserve it. Very influencial band. The original Heart band also.
Joan Jett? Did anyone take her seriously the first time around?
cracking on joan jett? that is low. she is more rock n roll than most of those artists listed
also why is STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN not even on the ballot despite being eligible?
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 11:27 AM |
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No Deep Purple???!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Nope and they never will. Same with Rush , Yes, Tull ,Priest, Maiden and Kiss. Donna Summer ? F-n Joke
None of the bands you listed will help sell tickets to the induction ceremony or the concert. I'm 100% convinced that's the main driver of these nominee lists.
That and Jann Wenner's personal biases. That's what one of the things that cracks me up about the exclusion of the MC5. He put them on the cover of Rolling Stone before their first album even came out.
You are totally right about Wenner's biases. He has a problem with "prog rock" and no act is in or even nominated other than Genesis. And its pretty clear they never will be. I like Guns and Roses but how can they possibly be included over Rush or Jethro Tull? Joan Jett? Is that some kind of joke? I'm not even going to criticize the Hip Hop or disco inclusions because its clear that the Hall is really the Pop music hall of fame. But these rock acts are on a much lower plane than Jethro Tull, Rush, Yes and many others. And yes, for reasons I cannot figure out, Grand Funk Railroad is very disliked by music critics who give them no respect at all. ____________________
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 11:28 AM |
| Thanks Bhawk for posting that very insightfull article. That self important commitee is such abuch of crap. As to this year's list (and especially regarding those who were once again not nominated) my personal favorites are Heart and Freddy King. But reading all those names of bands that still aren't inducted makes it all look like a joke. ____________________
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 12:19 PM |
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sixty8
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posted on 9/27/2011 at 12:26 PM |
No Deep Purple???
No Rush???
No Jethro Tull???
No Yes???
No Stevie Ray Vaughn????????????????????????????????????
As much as I love 'Appetite For Destruction' and a bunch of their other songs, IMO Guns N Roses doesn't have a large enough body of work to be considered for any Hall of Fame. The place is a joke as far as I am concerned with some of the people and bands inducted that don't belong and the number of bands who do deserve induction being completely ignored. I have zero urge to ever go visit that place.
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