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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 10:22 AM
Feds vow crackdown on Calif. pot operations

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) Federal authorities in California vowed to shut down dozens of pot growing and sales operations in a major crackdown, saying the worst offenders are using the cover of medical marijuana to act as storefront drug dealers.

The aggressive crackdown comes a little more than two months after the Obama administration toughened its stand on medical marijuana.

Prosecutors Friday described it as the first coordinated statewide offensive against marijuana dealers and suppliers who use California's 15-year-old medical marijuana law as legal cover for running sophisticated drug trafficking ventures in plain sight.

U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner cited a 2009 federal study that 72 percent of marijuana plants eradicated nationwide were grown in California.

"California's marijuana industry supplies the nation," he said.

The actions were geared toward stopping a proliferation that has led to thousands of pot shops opening their doors across the state. The spread was fueled partly by the Obama administration's assurance two years ago that it did not plan to devote federal resources to countering marijuana outlets operating in compliance with state laws.

One example cited by the prosecutors Friday: In one Orange County strip mall, eight of the 11 second-floor suites are occupied by dispensaries and doctors' offices for doctors where healthy individuals obtain "sham" recommendations to use medical marijuana.

It is "a Costco, Walmart-type model that we see across California," said Andre Birotte Jr., U.S. attorney in the Los Angeles-area. Some people making money from medical marijuana openly revel in what some have called "the new California gold rush," he said.

Landlords leasing property to dozens of warehouses and agricultural parcels where marijuana is being grown and retail spaces where pot is sold over the counter are receiving written warnings to evict their tenants or face criminal charges or seizure of their assets, the state's four U.S. attorneys said.

"The intention regarding medical marijuana under California state law was to allow marijuana to be supplied to seriously ill people on a nonprofit basis," said U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag, the top federal law enforcement officer for the San Francisco Bay area. "What we are finding, however, is that California's laws have been hijacked by people who are in this to get rich and don't care at all about sick people."

For two years before the federal government's toughened stand, officials had indicated they would not move aggressively against dispensaries in compliance with laws in the 16 states where pot is legal for people with doctors' recommendations.

The Department of Justice issued a policy memo to federal prosecutors in late June stating that marijuana dispensaries and licensed growers in states with medical marijuana laws could face prosecution for violating federal drug and money-laundering laws. The effort to shutter California dispensaries appeared to be the most far-reaching effort so far to put that guidance into action.

Increased federal intervention will likely unify marijuana growers and sellers in a drive to change federal policy, National Cannabis Industry Association spokeswoman Melissa Milam said.

"We're not going anywhere. We're mothers, we're patients, we're family members of patients," she said. "We want to pay taxes, we want to be able to make deposits at our bank, we want to be a business."

Not all of the thousands of storefront pot dispensaries thought to be operating in the state are being targeted in the crackdown, which also involves new indictments and arrests of marijuana growers and vendors throughout the state over the past two weeks, said Wagner, who represents the state's Central Valley.

The strategies federal authorities are using vary somewhat, with warning letters issued by the U.S. attorney in San Diego giving recipients 45 days to comply and property owners in Los Angeles, Orange County and the Central Coast given just two weeks to evict pot dispensaries or growers.

Haag said she is initially going after pot shops located close to schools, parks, sports fields and other places where there are a lot of children.

Wagner, who represents the state's Central Valley, also is targeting what he termed "significant commercial operations," including farmland where marijuana is being grown. Birotte is prioritizing dispensaries in communities where local officials have been trying unsuccessfully to shut down marijuana businesses.

Moreover, the four said their warnings were aimed at cities and counties that have started licensing and taxing marijuana shops.

The California Board of Equalization has estimated medical marijuana generates between $53 million and $104 million in annual sales taxes on sales of between $700 million and $1.3 billion.

"If it creates revenue and jobs and increases safety, with all that's going on in the world and the nation, why is the federal government mounting this assault just because they can?" asked attorney Mark Reichel, who represents three licensed Sacramento dispensaries that face federal charges or civil forfeitures.

More than a dozen dispensaries named by officials either did not respond to telephone messages or refused to comment on the closure demands. Damian Nassiri, a lawyer for two of dispensaries inside the Orange County shopping center authorities cited, predicting it would not be long before the owner sends his clients packing.

"These collectives had a hard time finding landlords who were willing to rent to them," Nassiri said.

Three of the four prosecutors declined to reveal how many dispensaries are subject to closure orders. Birotte said 38 property owners in his district were sent warnings.

Birotte said his office already had initiated property forfeiture proceedings involving three properties whose owners had received prior warnings.

The effort was criticized by two Democrat state legislators who represent San Francisco.

Assemblyman Tom Ammiano said the crackdown "means that Obama's medical marijuana policies are worse than Bush and Clinton. It's a tragic return to failed policies that will cost the state millions in tax revenue and harm countless lives."

"I don't understand the politics of it, and certainly if we haven't learned anything over the past century, it's that Prohibition does not work," added State Sen. Mark Leno, who has worked to safeguard and regulate medical marijuana in California.

Wagner said individual U.S. attorneys general in other states including Nevada, Oregon and Washington state have also coordinated actions with the U.S. Department of Justice.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 11:22 AM
A shame, to say the least.
 

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 12:41 PM
All they will do is push it back underground, the herb will not go away. I watched the new documentary "Prohibition" on PBS this week and it is amazing how much this argument mirrors Prohibition.

It didn't work then, it wont work now. It just waste my taxes.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 12:41 PM
This happened in Montana already. Feds raided all the bigger ones. The federal distinction appears to be storefront / warehouse operations versus home operations. No home caregiver raids, all stores, large grow barns etc. Appears to be a serious focus, contrary to Obama's original stance during election of Mr Compassion.

All while crystal meth exists (scratches head).

I will say all the unabashed "hippie" pot stores here were flippin' idiots and helped make it a federal cause. If they would have kept a medical stance, not given Wowee Zowee hippie names to the medicine ("Purple Wreck" was one) and had bongs in the window, and idiots for spokespeople. Yes as a disease survivor I am annoyed at the "business" being their own worst enemy. Duh, the feds came in.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 12:50 PM
Medical MJ biz was killing the illegal one. Prices have dropped considerably with so much MJ on the market.

Someone had to do something, thanks foir the crackdown feds.

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 02:19 PM
http://control.mpp.org/site/MessageViewer?em_id=56622.0&dlv_id=47921

***FIGHT BACK!!***
After opening this link, scroll down near the bottom of the message. There's a link there which will allow you to send a pre-written message to our President asking him why he is breaking his promise to not harrass the medical marijuana businesses and asking him to leave them alone as he originally promised.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 03:38 PM
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This happened in Montana already. Feds raided all the bigger ones. The federal distinction appears to be storefront / warehouse operations versus home operations. No home caregiver raids, all stores, large grow barns etc. Appears to be a serious focus, contrary to Obama's original stance during election of Mr Compassion.

All while crystal meth exists (scratches head).

I will say all the unabashed "hippie" pot stores here were flippin' idiots and helped make it a federal cause. If they would have kept a medical stance, not given Wowee Zowee hippie names to the medicine ("Purple Wreck" was one) and had bongs in the window, and idiots for spokespeople. Yes as a disease survivor I am annoyed at the "business" being their own worst enemy. Duh, the feds came in.


Good post - what I was thinkin', 'had they kept it mellow....' but my guess is the paper green intoxicated them.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 09:05 PM
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I wonder what this guy things about medical marijuana:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/ritch-workman-florida-dwarf-tossin g-law_n_998155.html

If my tax dollars were going to this guy, I'd be pissed. What a waste of good air.


I'm trying to refrain from mentioning how much time and money is being wasted on something that's such a 'small' problem.....groan. Honestly....don't they have more important things to deal with in Florida???

 

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 09:18 PM
I expected that report to be from The Onion or DERF.

Effn unreal.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2011 at 11:32 PM
Another broken promise by Obama,


the Candidate Obama promised to follow the science and reschedule marijuana according to science.

Another Sellout Career Politician.

Best Gov't Money can buy.



[Edited on 10/9/2011 by spacemonkey]

 

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  posted on 10/9/2011 at 12:16 AM
Damn those morons. If any of these creeps had glaucoma, or cancer and the nausea/vomiting that goes with it, or any of a big handful of medical conditions that marijuana treats successfully and with far fewer side effects than some of the "meds" we use, I wonder if the thought process would be any different. Wait, what the hell am I thinking? They would still get legal access and the hell with what is left of the middle class. My opinion, only it aint humble this time.

 

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  posted on 10/9/2011 at 07:55 AM
Keepin it iillegal keeps the politicinas pockets lined. Be it from Pharm Co's or the Cartel's in Mexico. Undercover cash for them is always better than tax revenue for the populace tha elected them. Why else become a politician......oh yeah to help the common good of the people.

 

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Another broken promise by Obama,


the Candidate Obama promised to follow the science and reschedule marijuana according to science.

Another Sellout Career Politician.

Best Gov't Money can buy.


[Edited on 10/9/2011 by spacemonkey]



Agree 100%

Obama made 3 promises regarding drug policy and has broken all 3...check out all this on the website of the Drug Policy Alliance.....

 

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  posted on 10/9/2011 at 09:10 AM
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ok....so who are our options, come 2012? Ugh.


More of the same den of thieves we always get to pick...seems anyone who runs for office shouldn't and those who never run might wanna consider it...like a nude beach...those naked shouldn't and those clothed might wanna consider it

 

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ok....so who are our options, come 2012? Ugh.


More of the same den of thieves we always get to pick...seems anyone who runs for office shouldn't and those who never run might wanna consider it...like a nude beach...those naked shouldn't and those clothed might wanna consider it


LOL!!! Never been to a nude beach, but I've heard stories that corroborate what you are saying about them.


Last year we were on a winter vacation in the caribbean and we heard there was a nude beach down a few miles from us so we figured,let's go take a peek

Well,in general,it was a horror movie...all those shriveled up little.....well you get it...and the regular beach seemed to have more attractive people....

Btw,we left our clothes on deciding not to add to the horror

 

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  posted on 10/9/2011 at 11:15 AM
he is coming down harder than bush or clinton on this my big dislike toward obama was the fact he was supposed ro relese the wire tap info from the cheney era and never has

 

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  posted on 10/9/2011 at 08:05 PM
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ok....so who are our options, come 2012? Ugh.


For me, it's easy. The one candidate who wants to end our failed national/federal "war on drugs" is the only one who isn't taking big banking bucks to protect the Federal Reserve, and is the only candidate (including Obama) who doesn't see the need (and knows we can't afford) for 600,000 U.S. troops and national guard spread across the globe, many in wealthy countries: Ron Paul.

From what I've heard from my cousin, the situation in Colorado is pretty much the same as Calfornia. Medical Marijuana shops everywhere.

[Edited on 10/10/2011 by hotlantatim]

 

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Damn those morons. If any of these creeps had glaucoma, or cancer and the nausea/vomiting that goes with it, or any of a big handful of medical conditions that marijuana treats successfully and with far fewer side effects than some of the "meds" we use, I wonder if the thought process would be any different. Wait, what the hell am I thinking? They would still get legal access and the hell with what is left of the middle class. My opinion, only it aint humble this time.


I agree completely, John. It's known to help people with arthritis, but if I smoke it and get drug tested at work, I lose my job, period. It doesn't seem to matter what condition you have, and medical marijuana is not legal in Iowa anyway. It's ridiculous.

 

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  posted on 10/10/2011 at 12:56 PM
From what I've seen in the Denver & surrounding suburbs, there are (estimated) 2 or 3x's as many "dispensaries" as there are in SoCal. I actually think Denver-area dispensaries actually outnumber the Starbucks (and its clones) & McDonalds combined.
 
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  posted on 10/10/2011 at 01:01 PM
I understand that most of the raids were in SoCal (San Diego area) - not in the heart of the industry up north. Nonetheless, the way that so many dispensaries waved it in the face of the Feds, what did everyone expect? Sucks, but minor blip on the radar. The movement is in full force and marching on.

 

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  posted on 10/10/2011 at 02:08 PM
This is a case where the State needs to protect its citizens from oppressive Federal government. Imagine the **** storm that would be created if State law enforment prevented the Feds from raiding a medical marijuana facility. We need some State governors with some balls.
 

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  posted on 10/10/2011 at 02:42 PM
Oh well. American stupidity at it's best again!!! So let it just stay illegal for medical purposes and everyone else. It isn't gonna stop anyone from getting it and using it as much as they want to. This just creates more demand from illegal growers and sellers. This is great news for them. The Mexicans who grow in our National Parks are doing the Toyota jump and whistling Dixie right about now. Keep pissing away American taxpayers money at a lost cause and keep wasting all of the law enforcement resources that could be used to crack down on the hard drugs that kill. Sooner or later common sense has got to be understood. We have been fighting this stupid war against pot for such a long time, have put so much money and resources into it, and the use of pot has done nothing but increase since then. It can't be stopped. Anyone who wants pot can get pot anywhere they live. I know I could get it from multiple sources within a 20 minute drive from my house. Even some that deliver it right to your own house. This new crackdown will just push those who want it back to buying it under the table. Hail to the criminal element involved with pot, this is a huge victory for them!!!

 

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  posted on 10/10/2011 at 04:06 PM
With all the BS going on in this country, especially the economy, THAT is what he is focused on?--he continues to disappoint me now on almost a weekly basis
 
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  posted on 10/10/2011 at 04:16 PM
It's the $$$$$$$$$$$$. Legal weed = less money for Big Pharma, less money for Big Beer, thus, less money for Big Brother.
 

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Damn those morons. If any of these creeps had glaucoma, or cancer and the nausea/vomiting that goes with it, or any of a big handful of medical conditions that marijuana treats successfully and with far fewer side effects than some of the "meds" we use, I wonder if the thought process would be any different. Wait, what the hell am I thinking? They would still get legal access and the hell with what is left of the middle class. My opinion, only it aint humble this time.


I agree completely, John. It's known to help people with arthritis, but if I smoke it and get drug tested at work, I lose my job, period. It doesn't seem to matter what condition you have, and medical marijuana is not legal in Iowa anyway. It's ridiculous.


Same with me....if I get tested and its positive, I'm up the creek w/o the charmin. It is utterly ridiculous. Big Brother wins again.

 

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