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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 11:11 AM
Says he is going to hang in for the rest of the season. Geez, this guy doesn't get it.

Very tragic for all involved.







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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 11:21 AM
I find him as disgusting as Sandusky at this point. Its all about the brand at the expense of young boys who have been essentially murdered. I find crimes like this to be worse than murder because the victim actually has to live with the horror. Someone ought to ask Paterno what he would have done if his son was the victim, or his grandson was the victim? They are all dirtballs IMO.

I think the whole lot of them should be locked up. Sandusky was reportedly in the weight room as recent as last week. How the F does that go on? He also found his victims in the charity he founded. Its almost like he set it up for that purpose.

This grand jury report will make you sick to your stomach. Warning if you read it, it is graphic.

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 11:27 AM
I agree paterno has to go now. it's a disgrace to let him finish the season and resign "gracefully"

I read the grand jury report and it disgusted me.

Paterno knowingly protected a pedophile and allowed him to continue this abuse for 13 years.

Can him now.

 
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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 11:31 AM
Say it ain't so, Joe.

I haven't read much on this. I just hate to see a legend like Joe Paterno go out like this.

What did he know - when did he know it?

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 11:55 AM
I have to agree with everything that's been said. I've got ESPN on right now and I just heard analyst LZ Granderson call for Paterno to resign NOW. What I don't get is......this all happened in 2002 and it's coming out NOW?? WOW. How can it ever be determined that Paterno and others at PS were NOT protecting Sandusky? This has got to be the biggest sports shocker I can remember.

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 12:09 PM
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I have to agree with everything that's been said. What I don't get is......this all happened in 2002 and it's coming out NOW?? WOW. This has got to be the biggest sports shocker I can remember.


Horrible story from what we already know, with way too many unanswered questions.

Fact here is, we wouldn't have even known THIS much, if a Clinton County HS student and his mother hadn't gone to HS officials in 2009 (yep). They did the right thing and took it to the police, instead of any "internal" investigation. And now here we are today.

Legalese aside, the University hasn't done the right thing all the way up and down the line, and now it looks like they're trying to figure out a way for JoePa to get this last home game in, and JoePa is shooting for the rest of the season.

Again, neither JoePa, nor the University is doing the RIGHT thing here.

Even the timing of the release of the charges, grand jury testimony stinks to high heaven.
It came right after the game JoePa broke Eddie Robinson's career record for wins, and this has been under investigation for at least 2 years.

Truly just a horrible story, aside from the actual victims, I feel bad for the students and alumni as well.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 12:14 PM
its unbelievable that Joe allowed this guy keys to his kingdom with total access to all the facilities and even an office after hearing about some shady activity. for that alone he needs to do the right thing and step down now, even if it jeopordizes Penn State Footballs Win/Loss record.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 12:55 PM
I am a PSU life long fan. I grew up in PA. Joe is an institution, no doubt about it.
There has LONG been talk that the "program" and the University were insular, and
out of touch with the outside world. It happens with most big university programs.
I think, objectively, this is exactly what happened at Penn St. with Sandusky. With all the really great things Joe has done, and stood for, at PSU this is a horrible blimish on his
stellar record, on and off the field of play. And how much of a figure head was/is JoePa,
versus a "hands-on" administrator? That will be/is a very important distinction.
I'm not defending Joe, and I am surely not defending the AD, or the Prez of PSU or anyone else in the custody of the State Police currently.

If Joe knew, FOR SURE, that Sandusky was a pedophile, Yes, he needs to go. I don't
think that was the case. I know some will say he didn't want to know or ignored it. If
that is the case .... he's dead meat.

ALL of these big, high powered University programs need a reality check. I hate to say PSU needed it a long time ago, but obviously that is the case, to some degree with
this horrible, if true, event.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 01:25 PM
Jim, I just read the Grand Jury Report that you posted, and although sickening, it should be read by anyone who has any question whatsoever. There will then be absolutely no question. As you said, the whole lot of them should be locked away and punished to the fullest extent of the law.
I always thought Joe Pa was a class act. Guess I need to quit thinking.
Time to go, Joe.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:04 PM
First I agree 100% with these posts. JO must go...2nd the name of Sanduskys book was "touched" kinda creepy!! and three the NCAA and others all over my Miami boyz hitting it with fun girls and boat trips and partying. at least thats " natural " behavior for kids... Wheres the consistency with punishment...What has happened at PennState is dispicable disgusting and they're so worried about Nebraska this week end.. proirities all f%^&*k up.. Jo must go and others!!!!!!!!!! Time to take a hike down the pike!!

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:20 PM
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I have to agree with everything that's been said. I've got ESPN on right now and I just heard analyst LZ Granderson call for Paterno to resign NOW. What I don't get is......this all happened in 2002 and it's coming out NOW?? WOW. How can it ever be determined that Paterno and others at PS were NOT protecting Sandusky? This has got to be the biggest sports shocker I can remember.

[Edited on 11/9/2011 by robslob]


The Grand Jury Indicted the AD and VP from 2002 who were told of the abuse by a Graduate Student that witnessed abuse at Penn State facilities. Read the indictment.

Joe was not indicted because he informed his superiors about allegations of a retired coach. The VP and AD's testimony shows me that they covered it up.

Most people expect Joe to have done more with just Hearsay evidence. I disagree.

THE GRADUATE ASSIST WAS THE WITNESS OF THE ABUSE , He failed to call police.
He is getting immunity probably for his testimony.

That is how I see it. let the personal attacks begin as they did in the whipping post.



 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:23 PM
I wouldn't be surprised that the admin/trustees let him finish. I think Joe Pa knows a lot of stuff and will use that to get his way.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:28 PM
The whole story is unspeakably horrible and Paterno needs to quit NOW. He's known about it for years -- think about the implications of that.

I know we're talking about a paragon of virtue for some people, but for goodness' sake, this is not a mere blemish on the program. It mars it hideously. This disgusting predator told the mother of one of his victims years ago that he should be dead. I'm betting that he really does kill himself now.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:38 PM
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First I agree 100% with these posts. JO must go...2nd the name of Sanduskys book was "touched" kinda creepy!! and three the NCAA and others all over my Miami boyz hitting it with fun girls and boat trips and partying. at least thats " natural " behavior for kids... Wheres the consistency with punishment...What has happened at PennState is dispicable disgusting and they're so worried about Nebraska this week end.. proirities all f%^&*k up.. Jo must go and others!!!!!!!!!! Time to take a hike down the pike!!


Agree! Dude, they ran Tressel out of town (another guy who should be on Mount Rushmore if you ask his fanbase) and what did he do, lie about some guys getting some tattoos? Sandusky is accused of raping kids (!!!!!!) and Paterno is accused of knowing about it years ago.

Also, I don't give a hoot if Jo Pa is criminally guilty or not. There's such a thing as moral responsibility. Telling the stupid AD and then washing your hands of the situation just doesn't cut it. Besides, Paterno flat-out RUNS the program and everyone in that part of the world knows it, job titles be damned.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:39 PM
you can say all the horrible things you want about Joe Pa and Penn State. but the reason for any coverup was the CASH COW, that is NCAA "amateur" athletics.

All Member Schools do want they can to protect that source of CASH

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:48 PM
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you can say all the horrible things you want about Joe Pa and Penn State. but the reason for any coverup was the CASH COW, that is NCAA "amateur" athletics.

All Member Schools do want they can to protect that source of CASH



accurate comment doesnt justify the behavior or how they are all dealing with it now!! its sad. and they Jo and the rest just dont get it...no excuses.....

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:48 PM
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Most people expect Joe to have done more with just Hearsay evidence. I disagree.



Paterno himself this morning said he wishes he would have done more. Pretty telling, don't you think?

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:51 PM
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you can say all the horrible things you want about Joe Pa and Penn State. but the reason for any coverup was the CASH COW, that is NCAA "amateur" athletics.

All Member Schools do want they can to protect that source of CASH


Yes, sir -- obviously -- but how does that change anything here? [Edited on 11/9/2011 by funkyfan]

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:55 PM
This was written by a local radio host in the Beaver County Times back in April of this year...

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The Jerry Sandusky situation seems a matter of failure to connect certain dots, or perhaps unwillingness in that regard. Lots of people besides the former Penn State defensive coordinator have some explaining to do.

Allegations of improper conduct with an underage male first surfaced in 1998, while Sandusky was still employed by Penn State. That incident allegedly occurred in a shower at Penn State's on-campus football facility. No charges were filed.

Sandusky retired the next year, in 1999. He was 55, prime age for a coach. Odd, to say the least - especially with Joe Paterno thought even then to be ready to quit and Sandusky a likely, openly-discussed successor.

It seems logical to ask: What did Paterno know, and when did he know it? What did Penn State's administration know, and when did they know it?

Best-case scenario: Charges are never brought, and Sandusky walks away with his reputation permanently scarred. The rumors, the jokes, the sideways glances - they won't ever stop. Paterno and Penn State do the great escape.

Worst-case scenario: Sandusky is charged. Then it seems reasonable to wonder: Did Penn State not make an issue of Sandusky's alleged behavior in 1998 in exchange for him walking away from the program at an age premature for most coaches? Did Penn State's considerable influence help get Sandusky off the hook?

Don't kid yourself. That could happen. Don't underestimate the power of Paterno and Penn State in central Pennsylvania when it comes to politicians, the police and the media.

In 1999, Penn State was rid of Sandusky. His rep was unblemished, which allowed him to continue running a charitable foundation that gave him access to underage males. To be a volunteer assistant with a high school football team, thus gaining access to underage males.

If Paterno and Penn State knew, but didn't act, instead facilitating Sandusky's untroubled retirement - are Paterno and Penn State responsible for untoward acts since committed by Sandusky?

This is far from an outrageous hypothesis, especially given the convenient timeline.

Initially accused in 1998. Retires in 1999. Never coaches college football again. Sandusky was very successful at what he did. The architect of Linebacker U. Helped win national championships in 1982 and 1986. Recognized as college football's top assistant in 1986 and 1999.

Never any stories about Sandusky being pursued for a high-profile job. Never any rumors about him coming out of retirement.

But there's no shortage of stories and rumors about Penn State football sweeping problems under the rug, is there?

Why did college football let an accomplished coach like Sandusky walk away at 55? Why did he disappear into relative anonymity?

A grand jury, spurred by a complaint made by a 15-year-old boy in 2009, has been investigating Sandusky for 18 months. Witnesses include Paterno and Penn State athletic director Tim Curley. Interviewing Paterno about a subject like this had to have been one of the single most uncomfortable acts in the history of jurisprudence.

Plenty of questions remain yet unanswered. Potentially among them: What's more important, Penn State football or the welfare of a few kids?

You might not want to hear the answer.

http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a- state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 02:59 PM
The Penn State Creamery has removed the "Sandusky Blitz" ice cream flavor, named after former PSU assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, from its shelves and online menu, the Daily Collegian first reported yesterday.

Prior to the flavor's removal from the creamery website, The Big Lead got a screen grab of the ingredients. Sandusky Blitz was described as a "banana-flavored ice cream with chocolate-covered peanuts and caramel swirl."

Though creamery staff wouldn't comment specifically to the Daily Collegian, the timing of the flavor's removal coincides with charges of sex crimes against minors filed against Sandusky last weekend.

The university is still dealing with the aftermath of those charges, including the retirement of coaching legend Joe Paterno, whose "Peachy Paterno" flavor is still available, and the anticipated resignation of president Graham Spanier. Athletic director Tim Curley and vice president for business and finance Gary Schultz are facing perjury charges and have since stepped down from their posts.


 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 03:01 PM
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Prior to the flavor's removal from the creamery website, The Big Lead got a screen grab of the ingredients. Sandusky Blitz was described as a "banana-flavored ice cream with chocolate-covered peanuts and caramel swirl."


This is right up there with his book being called "Touched" as far as you-couldn't-make-this-shi-tup.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 03:02 PM
Anyone in anyway involved in this type of thing at any professional level, (church,school, daycare etc.) MUST be not only let go, but prosecuted to the full level of Their involvement. If this means JoPa faces cover-up or conspiracy charges, then I am sorry but so be it. IMO it is one of the few real ways for society to truly have an impact on these type of activities. Also really bugs Me when I see an AP or other news headline screaming "Sex scandal rocks Penn St", this has NOTHING to do with a sex scandal, it is child molestation plain and simple, it is a disservice to the victims and everyone else to call it anything but.............Peace......joe
 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 03:02 PM
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Paterno himself this morning said he wishes he would have done more. Pretty telling, don't you think?



The use of the word "victims" was pretty telling too, i.e. when he said we should pray for the victims. Gee, thanks Joe, let's pray now for them.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 03:09 PM
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Most people expect Joe to have done more with just Hearsay evidence. I disagree.



Paterno himself this morning said he wishes he would have done more. Pretty telling, don't you think?




Hindsight is always 20/20.

What if he had gone to the cops with hearsay evidence and it wasn't true?

 

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  posted on 11/9/2011 at 03:12 PM
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What if he had gone to the cops with hearsay evidence and it wasn't true?




Nothing?

 
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