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  posted on 11/10/2011 at 05:50 AM


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Iran bought gold to cut dollar exposure

By Jack Farchy in London
Published: March 20 2011

Iran has bought large amounts of gold in the international market, according to a senior Bank of England official, in a sign of how growing political pressure has driven Tehran to reduce its exposure to the US dollar.

Andrew Bailey, head of banking at the Bank of England, told an American official that the central bank had observed “significant moves by Iran to purchase gold”, according to a US diplomatic cable obtained by WikiLeaks and seen by the Financial Times.

Mr Bailey said the gold buying “was an attempt by Iran to protect its reserves from risk of seizure”.

Market observers believe Tehran has been one of the biggest buyers of bullion over the past decade after China, Russia and India, and is among the 20 largest holders of gold reserves.

They estimate it holds more than 300 tonnes of gold, up from 168.4 tonnes in 1996, the date of the most recent International Monetary Fund data.

The cable, dated June 2006, is the first official confirmation of Tehran’s buying.

Last year central banks became net buyers of bullion after 22 years of large sales, helping drive gold prices to all-time nominal highs. Trades by central banks are often kept secret.

Bankers said other Middle Eastern countries had also been quietly adding to gold holdings to diversify away from the dollar amid political tensions and volatility in currency markets.

“The totality of central bank reserves is not what is reported to the IMF,” said Philip Klapwijk, executive chairman of GFMS, a precious metals consultancy. “There’s probably another 10 per cent on top of that.”

Cables obtained by WikiLeaks cite Jordan’s prime minister as saying the central bank was “instructed to increase its holdings” of gold, and a Qatar Investment Authority official as saying the QIA was interested in buying gold and silver.

“There is no question some Middle Eastern countries are very interested in buying gold,” said George Milling-Stanley, head of government affairs at the mining industry-backed World Gold Council.

In the past two months, the political unrest in the Middle East has helped propel gold to a record price of $1,444.40 a troy ounce.

The Bank of England declined to comment on the cables, but did not dispute their contents. The central banks of Iran and Jordan and the QIA did not respond to requests for comment.
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  posted on 11/10/2011 at 12:29 PM
it will matter when they launch one against Israel. all hell will break loose...and the obamination will hide and run like a scared bitch. we will have to fight china, russia, and most of the third world. we may very well lose. thanks dems and the liberal, socialist pigs that have no clue as to protecting our nation.

 

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They have never attacked anyone?

They can't get them here?

I wonder how much gold they have? If you don't play ball with the new world order, then you are OUT.

Who's the next government to fall ??? Regime change you can believe in


Ill tell you who the next govt. to fall will be, Italy and it is due to the financial crisis.

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"the 1996 policy paper prepared under the supervision of now-Vice President Dick Cheney, and his neo-con task force of Richard Perle, Doug Feith, David and Meyrav Wurmser, et al. Entitled "Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," this paper outlined a scenario whereby the 1993 Oslo Accords between Israel and the Palestinian Authority would be torn to shreds, and, first Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Hezbollah, and Iran, would be targetted for military assault and political destabilization.

The document flatly stated that Israel should engage "Hisbollah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon, including by ... establishing the precedent that Syrian territory is not immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces [and] striking Syrian military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove insufficient, striking at select targets in Syria proper." Furthermore, it said, Israel should divert "Syria's attention by using Lebanese opposition elements to destabilize Syrian control of Lebanon." The paper also called for focussing on "removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq...."

The outcome of the regional convulsions provoked by the "Clean Break" doctrine, was to be a new Middle East, with Israel hegemonic in the region, presiding over a series of newly balkanized states, run by puppet regimes. The Bush Administration has recently restated its intention to pick off these governments, dubbed "outposts of tyranny," one by one. The order in which they were to be hit was assumed to start with Iran. Instead, Syria was moved into first place.

The reason for this, one regional expert told EIR, is that if Iran were attacked militarily by the United States or Israel, the Islamic Republic would respond asymmetrically, unleashing allied and sympathetic Shi'ite forces in the Persian Gulf and in Lebanon: Hezbollah's capabilities to target Israel could be effectively deployed. Thus, the source said, the need to eliminate the Lebanese-based Shi'ite Hezbollah as a factor, and at the same time neutralize Syria, before moving against Tehran."

by Muriel Mirak-Weissbach
regarding the assassination of Rafik Hariri, Lebanese Prime Minister

Remarks: So the plan from 1996 is moving right along. Saddam was taken out of Iraq.
Syria is on the verge of their regime being taken down. Iran gives Syria foreign aid, Syria in return is helpful in supplying Hezbollah, in Lebanon, things that they need. That is the connections. If the US takes down Syria, the supply line to Lebanon is interrupted, enabling the US to (via proxy wars etc) lead incursions into Lebanon and then be strategically placed to attempt a takeover of Iran, and all their oil.




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  posted on 11/10/2011 at 12:55 PM
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it will matter when they launch one against Israel. all hell will break loose...and the obamination will hide and run like a scared bitch. we will have to fight china, russia, and most of the third world. we may very well lose. thanks dems and the liberal, socialist pigs that have no clue as to protecting our nation.




This is from the same guy saying bring all our troops home and end the wars........now you want us in a war with Iran and the rest of the world?

Obama sure has ran and hidden from all the terrorists....

 

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  posted on 11/10/2011 at 02:43 PM
Iran's 20 answers to questions about it's nuclear program.

http://tehrantimes.com/index.php/politics/4362-iran-provides-20-answers-to- clarify-ambiguities-about-its-nuclear-program

 

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  posted on 11/10/2011 at 02:51 PM
With Bush's stupid war with Iraq turning Iraq into Iran West there isn't very much protecting or buffering Israel from Iran. It will be very dangerous for Iran to have nukes IMO, much worse now IMO after dumb dumb W's unnecessary war with Iraq!

 

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  posted on 11/10/2011 at 07:06 PM
Iran is more interested in taking out Saudi Arabia then Israel. Iranian Quds Force members are waging an insurgent campaign in Yemen and has been attack Saudi Military units on their southern border. I have met many Persians over the year that have fled Iran to come to the U.S. and they are mostly in favor of some sort of overthrow of the current Iranian regime. However, a conventional military attack is impractical and would be harmful. Inducing a systemic collapse and fueling the resolve of the dissidents to take direct action would be a much better approach.

 

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  posted on 11/10/2011 at 07:56 PM
Personally I think we should let them have nukes. As far as Im concerned any country that wants to build up its military to the level that we have ours is welcome to do it. If we want countries to not have nukes and other weapons we have then we should implement policy to get rid of ours to show the world that they are not necessary

 

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Personally I think we should let them have nukes. As far as Im concerned any country that wants to build up its military to the level that we have ours is welcome to do it. If we want countries to not have nukes and other weapons we have then we should implement policy to get rid of ours to show the world that they are not necessary




Good luck with that policy. McNamara tried the same thing thinking that the Soviets would mirror his policy, and all that happened was that the Soviets intensified their production of ICBMs and became well on their way to winning the Cod War. Highly suggest that you read and understand history before bleating out wishful thinking. These are weapons capable of instantaneous genocide and not membership at a social club.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2011 at 04:54 PM
Any country that supports terrorism and has publicly stated that they want to wipe another close by country off of the face of the earth should not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons. Such blatant disregard and lack of respect for a small neighboring country is more than enough reason to do everything we can to stop them from getting nukes. I wouldn't even be so afraid of Iran outwardly using the nukes but they are a sponsor of terrorism and could easily pass something off to a terrorist group who could use it without it being able to be traced back to Iran.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2011 at 04:57 PM
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Any country that supports terrorism and has publicly stated that they want to wipe another close by country off of the face of the earth should not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons.


True, the USA is the ony one that has that right. Who does Iran think they are? They better hide their gold, becuase they are next.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2011 at 08:31 PM
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Any country that supports terrorism and has publicly stated that they want to wipe another close by country off of the face of the earth should not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons.


True, the USA is the ony one that has that right. Who does Iran think they are? They better hide their gold, becuase they are next.


The USA don't go around saying we want to wipe any other country off the face of the globe, not even our worst enemies nor are we sponsors of state terrorism. That is the difference.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2011 at 10:31 PM
Iran with Nukes would be a grave mistake....for the entire world. They don't have or would exercise the common sense to nut use the thing. They do not need any type of weapon of mass destruction.

 

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I want some of what Brent's snorting. But only about a third as much. Buzzed-good, out of your mind-bad.

 

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Any country that supports terrorism and has publicly stated that they want to wipe another close by country off of the face of the earth should not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons. Such blatant disregard and lack of respect for a small neighboring country is more than enough reason to do everything we can to stop them from getting nukes. I wouldn't even be so afraid of Iran outwardly using the nukes but they are a sponsor of terrorism and could easily pass something off to a terrorist group who could use it without it being able to be traced back to Iran.


Then why is it that all I read on this forum when Bush was in office was that Iran wasn't really going for a nuke bomb, and that even if they did it wasn't that big a deal?? By the way, the IAEA said the other day that basically Iran has been working towards a nuke bomb since 2003!

Hello??

So is Obama going to meet in person with Ahmadinner jacket and all of the crap rhetoric that he said when running for president in 2008??

 

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  posted on 11/11/2011 at 10:56 PM
"Does Iran getting nukes matter?"

Yes it does matter. And so does the "The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons". All nuclear (dirty) weapons need to be dismantled and rendered useless. imo.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2011 at 12:21 AM
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Personally I think we should let them have nukes. As far as Im concerned any country that wants to build up its military to the level that we have ours is welcome to do it. If we want countries to not have nukes and other weapons we have then we should implement policy to get rid of ours to show the world that they are not necessary




Good luck with that policy. McNamara tried the same thing thinking that the Soviets would mirror his policy, and all that happened was that the Soviets intensified their production of ICBMs and became well on their way to winning the Cod War. Highly suggest that you read and understand history before bleating out wishful thinking. These are weapons capable of instantaneous genocide and not membership at a social club.


How do you know how much this person has read?
Your arrogance is annoying.

He is making a valid point about Substance over B.S.

It is BS for countries with NUKES to preach to those that want them.



 

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  posted on 11/12/2011 at 04:20 AM
No, my intellect is what is annoying, mainly because of the fact that I have superior knowledge on the subject. The individual making such nonsensical remarks could not even begin to speak about Cold War history in the slightest detail. Mainly because he or she is a liberal and liberals are not interested in facts just fantasy and other delusions. Perhaps-space-monkey-if you can remove yourself from listening to Coast to Coast with George Noory, you may very well find the realities of this world are much more complex and that dysfunctional societies like Iran are incapable of possessing such weapons. Anytime you want to move to North Korea or Iran let me know. I will help you pack and pay for your plane ticket as well as drive you to the Airport.

Be careful around microwaves with that foil hat!!!

 

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  posted on 11/12/2011 at 10:09 AM
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No, my intellect is what is annoying, mainly because of the fact that I have superior knowledge on the subject. The individual making such nonsensical remarks could not even begin to speak about Cold War history in the slightest detail. Mainly because he or she is a liberal and liberals are not interested in facts just fantasy and other delusions. Perhaps-space-monkey-if you can remove yourself from listening to Coast to Coast with George Noory, you may very well find the realities of this world are much more complex and that dysfunctional societies like Iran are incapable of possessing such weapons. Anytime you want to move to North Korea or Iran let me know. I will help you pack and pay for your plane ticket as well as drive you to the Airport.

Be careful around microwaves with that foil hat!!!



more arrogance

 

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  posted on 11/12/2011 at 10:26 AM
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it will matter when they launch one against Israel. all hell will break loose...and the obamination will hide and run like a scared bitch. we will have to fight china, russia, and most of the third world. we may very well lose. thanks dems and the liberal, socialist pigs that have no clue as to protecting our nation.


Brett,

Even if Iran get's a nuclear weapon, it's highly unlike they'll launch it against Israel, simply becauce of the fact that Israel has over 300 nuclear warheads of it's own (compliments of Uncle Sam), which no doubt they would use to turn Iran into "nuclear parking lot" if Iran had the "stupidity" to actually launch a nuclear weapon that they may or may not actually have. And the fact of matter is, Iran KNOWS THAT. Bottom line, you don't go war because some nation leader (Ahmadinejad) is engaging in what amounts to some "bitch talking".

The truth of the matter is, is that Israel WANTS the United States to fight yet another war in the Middle East, and a major one at that, that we really have no damn business getting involved in. And if this war goes does down, Israel, once again, will probably be supplying none of her military forces to fight this war, as she'll have some "internal enemies" that has to be taken care of, so the real fighting will be up to the United States to do.

Now the big question is, what is the real reason Israel wants a major war in the Middle East? IMHO, it's to give Israel "the cover" to take care of her "internal problem". Unfortunately, in about 20 to 25 years Arabs and Palestines will out number Jews in Israel proper, and when that happens Israel will cease being the "Jewish Homeland". It's only option at that point will be to become either an "apartheid" state much as South Africa used to be, or to beome an "Arab democracy". Israel at this point in history, is very much a "right wing" state (Imho, Netanyahu and indeed the whole Likkud party attutide isn't all that far off from that of people like David Duke) and unfortunately I feel would they use a major war as a cover to commit "genocide" of the Arab and Palestian populations in Israel proper in order to preserve Israel as THE "Jewish homeland".

One more thing for people to remember, is many countries have nuclear capabilities, and some of these countries have nuclear weapons, but there's only been ONE country to actually use nuclear weapons, and that is the United States. The smartest thing for the United States to do, is do not let the "fear-mongering" and "sable rattling" of the Zionist and neo-conservatives crowd lead us into another war, that is very likely to turn out badly for all concerned.


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  posted on 11/12/2011 at 10:44 AM
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  posted on 11/13/2011 at 08:14 AM
How much gold does Iran have???

http://www.ltggoldrock.com/2011/secret-iran-gold-holdings-leaked-tehran-hol ds-same-amount-of-gold-as-united-kingdom-and-is-buying-more/

 

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  posted on 11/13/2011 at 10:01 AM
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How much gold does Iran have???

http://www.ltggoldrock.com/2011/secret-iran-gold-holdings-leaked-tehran-hol ds-same-amount-of-gold-as-united-kingdom-and-is-buying-more/




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