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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 03:58 PM

Always good to see an attack on somebody like Ann Romney who has raised five kids while fighting cancer and dealing with MS, which she still has.

Yep, the Romney's have been successful and are rich and damn sure didn't have togothrough what my family did when my dad left home and myMOm had to struggle. But, to the Romney's credit, they have made it from scratch. That gets under the skin of the Mental Disorder Left in a big way.

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The Obama administration today tried to distance itself from Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen’s controversial comments about Ann Romney, pushing back against reports that Rosen is a frequent visitor to the White House.

“I don’t know how to assess her overall relationship with people here in the White House, but … I have not seen her here very frequently,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters at the daily White House briefing.

Carney said he has not spoken with the president about Rosen’s comment that Ann Romney has not “worked a day in her life,” but was quick to point out, “I think we can all agree, Democrats and Republicans, that raising children is an extremely difficult job, and that is true for all mothers as well as fathers.”

Carney refuted reports that Rosen has visited the White House 35 times, saying, “I know three, personally, women named Hilary Rosen, so I’m not sure that those represent the person we’re talking about necessarily. So I really can’t comment on the number of visits, since I’m not sure that’s accurate.”




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A DNC official sends word this morning that "Hilary Rosen is not an adviser to the DNC. Our contract for media services is exclusively with Anita Dunn."

It is a distinction that is likely to do little to quell the notion that Rosen was speaking with authority, despite the prompt disavowals from the Obama campaign of what she said.

UPDATE: And then there's this story from February, in which Rosen is described as being enlisted to give "occasional advice and media training" to DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz. - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204642604577213173081025252.h tml


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Attacking Ann Romney — yeah, that’s the ticket!

By Jennifer Rubin


Overnight President Obama’s faux “war on women” attack on Mitt Romney blew up in his face. It is fitting that a gimmick should boomerang this quickly and this severely, maybe giving Romney the first big break of the race.

By now you’ve probably heard that Hilary Rosen, a sometime White House adviser and frequent visitor, on CNN attacked the most popular person in the campaign, Ann Romney, with a cartoon version of left-leaning feminism, declaring that the mother of five who has battle multiple sclerosis and cancer “never worked a day in her life.” (Query why the conservative on the panel sat there like a lump on the log. Maybe a few more conservative women on CNN would balance the coverage. He claims to have “missed it.” Indeed.) No, this really happened. Honest. But it didn’t stop. Rosen took to Twitter to dig her hole deeper and deeper, never apologizing. (At this point Republicans should be humming Dayenu.)

But it didn’t end there. Obama political hacks David Axelrod and Jim Messina took to Twitter to condemn the remarks and to call on Rosen to apologize, thereby making Rosen seem closer to the president’s campaign (and the campaign more responsible for her gaffe than might otherwise be the case). And — yup — it didn’t end there. Ann Romney now is on Twitter and got a gazillion followers in just hours. Her first tweet was a keeper: “I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys. Believe me, it was hard work.”

Needless to say, the “war on women” has taken on a whole new tone. Let’s count the ways this is just awful for Obama and/or Democrats more generally. There are a few, so find a comfortable seat.

First, Obama, as a conservative pundit put it, just went a long way toward solidifying Romney’s base, especially among social conservatives who loathe elites who look down on stay-at-home moms.

Second, it feeds into the cliche that liberals love humanity but hate people. In this case they love womanhood but treat their own employees and conservative women like dirt.

Third, the “war on women” just became Romney’s vehicle for narrowing the gender gap, especially among women with children.

Fourth, this points to the absurdity of Obama’s approach to the campaign — nonstop negativity and gimmicks.When one goes awry, what’s he got to say?

Fifth, there will be a new term in politics: A Rosen. That is a gaffe of epic proportions that is magnified by the gaffer’s own stubbornness and insistence on digging deeper.

Sixth, Hilary Rosen, who makes her living in PR (irony alert), better find other work. She’s really terrible at her job, if this is any indication.

Seventh, Ann Romney becomes an even bigger superstar and asset than she was before. Provided she doesn’t overplay it, she can be truly successful in reaching out to female voters and humanizing her husband.

Eighth, Romney has the chance for one of those revealing human moments that the campaign has generally shied away from. Some righteous anger or a loving defense of his wife, you can bet, is coming up. It’s the equivalent of the Al-Tipper Gore kiss. Americans, if Romney does this well, are about to say, “Wow! He has a pulse.”

Ninth, this is possibly the first Twitter-driven political kerfuffle, playing out in the evening and without much input from either traditional media or blogs. The good news for Republicans is they have learned to master social media. Better news is that the Romney team moved with “lightning speed” to capi­tal­ize on this. Team Romney is more nimble than it has been in the past.

Tenth, I suspect not even the left blogosphere is going to save the president on this one. Yes, the bloggers will snort that this is all overplayed (not very credible from those who wrote thousands of words about Etch-a-Sketch). Yes, they will say that even though Messina and Axelrod leapt to condemn Rosen’s remarks, that it is not like Obama spoke these words. (Cue the laughter from Eric Fehrnstrom.) But really this is such a mess, it may be better to cut their losses, condemn Rosen for being idiotic and try to move on. Good luck with that, fellas.



 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 04:05 PM
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75066.html

10 things about Hilary Rosen


By MACKENZIE WEINGER | 4/12/12

By saying on that Ann Romney has “never worked a day in her life,” Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen created a firestorm on Twitter and, once again in her career, found herself in the middle of controversy. POLITICO has compiled 10 things you might not have known about Rosen:

1. Resigned as head of the Recording Industry Association of America in 2003, to spend more time with her family — her then-partner, Elizabeth Birch, and their adopted twins, Jacob and Anna. (Rosen and Birch separated in 2006.)

2. While at the RIAA, presided over the case that shut down Napster — and her quest against music sharing made her widely reviled. One site dubbed her “Beast of the Month” in 2000, and Wired magazine wrote a feature on her with the headline, “Hating Hilary” in 2003. She once even had to travel with security due to death threats.

3. Was inspired by the Showtime series, “The L Word,” to start OurChart.com — a social networking website specifically for lesbians — along with the show’s creator. On the show, “The Chart” mapped the various relationships among the female characters.


4. Signed with CNN in early 2008, and two years later she joined as a partner at the political communications firm SKDKnickerbocker.

5. Past jobs include serving as the Washington editor at large and political director in 2008 at The Huffington Post, stints commentating at CNBC and MSNBC, and acting as interim director for the Human Rights Campaign in 2004.

6. The Huffington Post had cut ties with Rosen in 2010, due to her work for BP — the embattled oil-and-gas company brought her on in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill to serve as a consultant.

7. Also on herrésumé: working for New Jersey Democratic Gov. Brendan Byrne, Sen. Bill Bradley (D-N.J.) and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) early in her career.

8. Originally from West Orange, N.J. , Rosen received her bachelor’s degree in International Business from George Washington University in 1981 and never left Washington.

9. Co-hosts the annual Garden Brunch before the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner with neighbor and pal, Tammy Haddad.

10. Favorite Whitney Houston song is “The Greatest Love of All.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75066.html#ixzz1rrVw2sZq





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We need to move beyond this and quickly! We will devolve into the War on Women by Women if we let the GOP spin machine have their way. -

Mothers, Don't Fall for Ann Romney's Stay at Home Mom Bait -- Her Husband Still Supports a War on Woman

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/879811/mothers,_don't_fall_for _ann_romney's_stay_at_home_mom_bait_--_her_husband_still_supports_a_war_on_ women/#paragraph3



Well, the problem is that it was an attack on women who stay at home to raise their kids. Equal Rights and Girl Power should be about women whatever choice they make. And now, the White House is backtracking, Axelrod is backtracking, Michelle is backtracking.

Of course, Ann Romney letting that many of her children be born to begin with burns the ass of some on the Left as well. The fact is, all of their kids seem to be out of trouble and productive citizens.

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I'd really like to know what sort of help she had inside the home - such as someone to cook, clean, do yard work, tutors, nannies, etc., all those endless things that the rest of us struggle with all while trying to balance the budget and raise children. For Romney to bait women into this infighting is deplorable.


How in the hell did Romney bait Hillary Rosen into opening her mouth and simply relaying what thoughts the mental disorder left has about stay-at-home moms??? Romney is to blame for this???

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Ann Romney is blessed that she was in a financial position to have the "choice" to be a full time home maker. Most women don't have that option. However, attacking Ann Romney becomes the War on Women by women, and offends stay at home moms who are in sympathy with the core message of the movement. NOT where we need to be in MHO.


Well, Rosen tried to say that the Democrats and the rest of the left is not using the phrase "War on Women" when there are groups with this name and even a political ad by the Democrat Party with the title "The GOP's War on Women." Why would the Left lie about this??




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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 04:26 PM
"The GOP, should I be the nominee, I think can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record. I've been in public life for 20 years. I expect them to pore through everything that I've said, every utterance, every statement. And to paint it in the most undesirable light possible. That's what they do. But I do want to say this to the GOP. If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful. Because that I find unacceptable.........I think that the American people also would like to see some restoration of decency to this process. And when you start attacking family members, there's a lack of decency there." - Barack Obama 2008

 

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"The GOP, should I be the nominee, I think can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record. I've been in public life for 20 years. I expect them to pore through everything that I've said, every utterance, every statement. And to paint it in the most undesirable light possible. That's what they do. But I do want to say this to the GOP. If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful. Because that I find unacceptable.........I think that the American people also would like to see some restoration of decency to this process. And when you start attacking family members, there's a lack of decency there." - Barack Obama 2008



Obama just restated what he said back in 2008. This will be a non-issue because one person doesn't speak for the entire party, just like those on the right like to point out every time Rush puts his foot into his mouth. :

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/12/obama-weighs-in-on-rosen-co ntroversy/

(CNN) – Less than 24 hours after Hilary Rosen made a comment about Ann Romney's history as a stay-at-home mother, President Barack Obama joined other political heavyweights in taking a swing at the Democratic strategist's controversial remarks.

Obama, reflecting on his own mother and his wife, said there's "no tougher job than being a mom."

"Anybody who would argue otherwise, I think, probably, needs to rethink their statement," the president said in an interview with CNN affiliate KCRG, a television station in Cedar Rapids.

His comments came after Rosen, also a CNN contributor, sparked an uproar Wednesday night by saying Ann Romney had "never worked a day in her life" and could not understand the struggles of working moms.

Republicans and Democrats–including members of Obama's re-election team–quickly rushed to the defense of Ms. Romney, calling Rosen out for her remarks.

In an apology the following day, Rosen said she used a poor choice of words and meant to say the Romneys were out of touch with working class families due to their wealth.

The president, however, said families should be "off limits" in an election season.

"I don't have a lot of patience for commentary about the spouses of political candidates," Obama said. "Those of us who are in the public life, we're fair game. Our families are civilians."

While he's never met Ann Romney, he argued she hadn't "necessarily volunteered for this job," adding further that spouses do not deserve to fall in the crosshairs of political rhetoric.

"Me and Governor Romney are going to have more than enough to argue about during the course of this campaign," he said.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 06:01 PM
Derek , when you say the Romney's "made it from scratch " what are you talking about ? Romney was born with a siver spoon in his mouth and had every advantage growing up.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 07:14 PM
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Derek , when you say the Romney's "made it from scratch " what are you talking about ? Romney was born with a siver spoon in his mouth and had every advantage growing up.


You just beat me to it. Made it from scratch isn't exactly the way it happened. That being said, the woman made a foolish statement that didn't go far enough....she should have said, outside the home, which is what so many women are having to do these days. They work outside the home, inside the home and raise their children while they're doing it. I'm not trying to diminish anything Mrs. Romney did, but I can promise you, my life as a mother raising her children would have been so very much easier if I'd had a 250 million dollar cushion to get buy on.

 

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Excellent comments by President Obama today, especially compared to the whining activists, facebook groups and politicians whoare freaking out because Rosen spoke to the truth and unveiled the attitude of many on the Left. Holy cow, some evenly stupidly tried to blame Limbaugh for all of this reaction to dipwad Rosen. Anyway, as I said above, to try and trash somebody who has, from all counts, raised five boys successfuly in ways much more important than the favt that they are privileged, and did so while battling cancer and still fighting MS, and doing it because their family happened to be successful - only the liberal mind would come up with that.

And again, hats off to Obama for calling it right.

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Derek , when you say the Romney's "made it from scratch " what are you talking about ? Romney was born with a siver spoon in his mouth and had every advantage growing up.



Yes, Romney grew up privileged. But he didn't take the route of an idle rich **** . His success was due this hard work. His fortune was due to his own hard work. I was first impessed with his abilities when he flat out saved and tuned around he Olympics because he was brought in because the organization was f**ked. Yes, of course, it does help to have access to a good school and everything that goes with it. But again, he succeeded on his own and did not go the pathetic route ofthe idle rich **** . I understand the desire to punish success in America by some. And I am still much more impressed by people who are successful after starting with nothing. But if someone makes it of his own accord and inteligence and ablities - good for them. Somewould rather player hate. Have at it. But while the goal of the Left is to convince folks they can't make it without the government, America is still, despite Obama, an aspirational society. The problem with Romney is when he tries to be something he is not and acts goofy. He should just be himself and project the fact that he has he smarts and understanding of business and executive skills to turn this around.

Meanwhile, this whole Rosen thing has inspired a Letter To Your Daughter. Please have them read it, sign it and turn it back in!!

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Do something WONDERFUL with your life. I don't care what it is, do something WONDERFUL with your life. Stop wasting your time worrying about what you look like, that will never get you ANYWHERE. It's only a trick people play on you to impede your accomplishments that you would otherwise be doing. And stop chasing these silly boys around. Boys are a waste of your time. The real men who will support you and honor you and champion you will show up after while. Let time go by. Time will tell you who your real man friends are, Time will tell, Time has a big mouth. Get you a husband who really cares about you, if you must have a husband. Some of your main champions and supporters in the man category are probably going to be people you are not even romantically involved with at all. Appreciate this and accept it for what it is. DO YOUR THING. Get you a woman partner if that's what you want. Hell, don't bother with a partner at all if you can't find one immediately handy. Get you a vibrator or a dog or a Xanax or a milkshake or a six-month trip to a monastery or whatever it is you need to keep it together and get on with your life. Don't read fashion magazines unless you are actually interested in the damn clothes and shoes. Don't focus on your body. Don't focus on your boyfriend. Focus on yourself and YOUR THANG. Do this NOW before you get forty and wonder what the hell you were doing out there chasing boys who were wasting your precious energy all the time. You aren't even gonna remember half those boys' NAMES when you get forty. Stop chasing these clowns! Where do you dig these people up? Find one that's gonna do what you WANT! And in the meantime if you can't find someone to do what you want, get out there yourself and DO WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO DO.



We should all be telling young girls this for the good of this world and of worlds to come.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 07:38 PM
I've mentioned this before but I will again, I have a facebook group I started about five or six months ago Stop the War on Women. We're now at 1900 plus members and our goal is not only to try to stop some of this legislation against women's rights from being passed but to also identify other women's issues and find ways to deal with them with respect for each other.

 

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Yep, and some real gems coming out of there today in response to Rosen's brilliant comments. See above.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 08:06 PM
Cry me a freaking river.

Ann Romney can go buy another dressage horse to ease the pain of a comment from someone who earns less than her hired help. (Remember in an interview she said mitt "doesn't know how many dressage horses she owns"?)

People who own three or more homes seldom do their own grocery shopping, what the hell does she know about how the average woman feels about the issues???

I'd be willing to bet she doesn't know the cost of a dozen eggs.

Maybe if she had used birth control she wouldn't have had five kids to raise and her life wouldn't have been so darned difficult.

The folks with the biggest wadded panties over this are the same assclowns who have no problem with their savior el rushbo referring to the first lady as "moochelle" an obvious insult to her weight.

That damned old double standard.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 08:07 PM
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Always good to see an attack on somebody like Ann Romney who has raised five kids while fighting cancer and dealing with MS, which she still has.

Yep, the Romney's have been successful and are rich and damn sure didn't have togothrough what my family did when my dad left home and myMOm had to struggle. But, to the Romney's credit, they have made it from scratch. That gets under the skin of the Mental Disorder Left in a big way.


Perhaps comments about the Romneys should be best left to folks like us in Massachusetts who had to endure Romney's colossal, spectacular failure as governor and not from basements in Ohio. Thanks.

Here's a doozy.....

ROMNEY CAMPAIGN ON EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN: "WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT"
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/romney-campaign-equal-pay-women-well-get-b a

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 08:10 PM
I don't see either of the Romney's understanding much about the average people who struggle to pay their bills with both parents working, who don't make 10K bets and who are trying desperately to keep one house, forget three.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 08:11 PM
Soooooooo, that was true about FDR and JFK as well...right??

 

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Cry me a freaking river.

Ann Romney can go buy another dressage horse to ease the pain of a comment from someone who earns less than her hired help. (Remember in an interview she said mitt "doesn't know how many dressage horses she owns"?)

People who own three or more homes seldom do their own grocery shopping, what the hell does she know about how the average woman feels about the issues???

I'd be willing to bet she doesn't know the cost of a dozen eggs.

Maybe if she had used birth control she wouldn't have had five kids to raise and her life wouldn't have been so darned difficult.

The folks with the biggest wadded panties over this are the same assclowns who have no problem with their savior el rushbo referring to the first lady as "moochelle" an obvious insult to her weight.

That damned old double standard.





You left out the cancer and the Multiple Sclerosis. Please continue ...........

 

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Cry me a freaking river.

Ann Romney can go buy another dressage horse to ease the pain of a comment from someone who earns less than her hired help. (Remember in an interview she said mitt "doesn't know how many dressage horses she owns"?)

People who own three or more homes seldom do their own grocery shopping, what the hell does she know about how the average woman feels about the issues???

I'd be willing to bet she doesn't know the cost of a dozen eggs.

Maybe if she had used birth control she wouldn't have had five kids to raise and her life wouldn't have been so darned difficult.

The folks with the biggest wadded panties over this are the same assclowns who have no problem with their savior el rushbo referring to the first lady as "moochelle" an obvious insult to her weight.

That damned old double standard.





You left out the cancer and the Multiple Sclerosis. Please continue ...........


Cadillac health insurance took care of one, legal cannabis meds can take care of the other.

In the long run it will make no difference, the silver spoon candidate won't win and we will all be better off without him.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 08:48 PM
I see people with MS and cancer working every day trying to keep afloat. They don't have access to great insurance, hired help or other amenities to make their lives easier. I'm not criticizing Mrs. Romney for having it easier than most but I'm not going to make her into this heroine of women everywhere because she's facing health problems. As for FDR and Kennedy....no, they personally probably didn't experience that much of what was going on for the middle class in the country, but they darn sure knew about it and I can't say Romney has a clue what goes on with the 99%. And I'm certainly not going to vote for him.

 

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I have to suck it up and appreciate Biden and Axeldork as well;

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Vice President Joe Biden said on MSNBC that she had made “an outrageous assertion.” David Axelrod, Obama’s top campaign strategist, tweeted that Rosen’s comments were “inappropriate and offensive.”

 

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  posted on 4/12/2012 at 09:18 PM
Plus there is just as much sexism on the left as there is on the far right. The notion is simple and sick- women can't make it without dependence on government so lets run up the debt and let your kids pay for it.

Plus, concerning Obama;

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Andrew Stiles at the Washington Free Beacon writes:


Female employees in the Obama White House make considerably less than their male colleagues, records show.

According to the 2011 annual report on White House staff, female employees earned a median annual salary of $60,000, which was about 18 percent less than the median salary for male employees ($71,000)…

The Obama campaign on Wednesday lashed out at presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney for his failure to immediately endorse the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act, a controversial law enacted in 2009 that made it easier to file discrimination lawsuits…

It is not known whether any female employees at the White House have filed lawsuits under the Ledbetter Act.



Now here is the pathetic part,as in the response to this fact from the briliant folks at MediaMatters;

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http://mediamatters.org/blog/201204120008

Of course, the gender pay gap is a long-term overall economic trend, not simply a problem that exists in Obama's White House. In fact, the gap is actually smaller at the White House than in the overall economy. According to BLS data, in the fourth quarter of 2011, women earned about 81 percent as much as men in the overall economy. Based on the Beacon's numbers, women earn about 85 percent as much as men overall in the White House.

Moreover, the Beacon's juxtaposition of the pay data with Obama's comments about "paycheck discrimination," and the speculation about whether female White House employees would file lawsuits under the Lilly Ledbetter Act, hint at wage discrimination being practiced at the White House. But as The American Prospect's Paul Waldman has noted, the only thing that the Beacon's data indicate is that "men, on average, are occupying higher-paying jobs in the White House (a legitimate grounds for criticism, but not something they pointed out), not that women are being paid less for doing the same job -- the kind of discrimination the Ledbetter act was designed to combat."


You can't make this sh*t up.

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  posted on 4/13/2012 at 12:12 AM
Stay at home moms are a bunch of clueless idiots.
 

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  posted on 4/13/2012 at 09:42 AM
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I've mentioned this before but I will again, I have a facebook group I started about five or six months ago Stop the War on Women. We're now at 1900 plus members and our goal is not only to try to stop some of this legislation against women's rights from being passed but to also identify other women's issues and find ways to deal with them with respect for each other.


"identify other women's issues".

where to begin...

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  posted on 4/13/2012 at 09:56 AM
It's the old game again. Liberal billionaires get a pass because they have the right opinions. I don't care if the president understands in a personal way what it is like to struggle. I'm middle class and I don't understand what it's like in a personal way to be impovershed (Luckily) These things have no bearing whatsoever on anything to do with being a successful president. Most presidents have come from priviliged backgrounds. For example, Roosevelt, Kennedy, Carter, Bush. Others did not. For example Nixon (Who worked to put himself through law school) Truman (who did not go to college) Eisenhower, Johnson, Reagan and Clinton. To many liberals it only matters when they dislike or disagree with the Candidate. To me it never matters.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2012 at 10:39 AM
It makes no difference if Rosen's comments have merit or not. Unfortunately if the Romneys, including Ann, want to play with the big boys they'll have to get used to this stuff just like the Obama's did.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2012 at 10:56 AM
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Stay at home moms are a bunch of clueless idiots.


My comprehension skills tell me she was suggesting Ann Romney is clueless with regard to what most stay at home moms endure, not that all stay at home moms are clueless idiots. Perhaps I'm wrong though.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2012 at 11:55 AM
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Stay at home moms are a bunch of clueless idiots.


My comprehension skills tell me she was suggesting Ann Romney is clueless with regard to what most stay at home moms endure, not that all stay at home moms are clueless idiots. Perhaps I'm wrong though.


If she (Rosen) had a high dollar edumecation., she'd understand the grammar of "moms" as opposed to "mom". One refers to a plural aspect while the other is specific to individual. If Ann Romney was specific in reference, the quote would of stated such. Either as, "Stay at home moms, such as Ann Romney are a bunch of clueless idiots" or "Ann Romney is a clueless idiot".

 

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  posted on 4/13/2012 at 12:29 PM
First, where did the clueless idiot remark come from? Certainly not from the original comment, which I've listened to a number of times. Second, to set the record straight, Ann Romney had a precancerous lump removed from her breast in 2008. She doesn't have cancer and she's certainly not fighting the disease as Elizabeth Edwards was when her husband was running for the presidency.

As to women's issues....they're numerous and a lot of the are, by the very nature of them, also men's issues. There is a concerted attack from the Americans United for Life, a group proposing legislation and passing it out to the states to be passed, that affect not only abortion, but also women who want to carry their babies. Some of these bills, if passes, have the potential to deny certain forms of birth control. And that is definitely an issue men should be concerned about whether single or married if they want the right to control the number of children they bring into the world. Come on over and check us out...you don't have to join just to read up on the topics.

 

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