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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 10:55 AM
First, this is not about the autopen books. That's covered on a lot of other threads.

My question is why do people want autographs of famous people?

I have been backstage and to book signings to meet an artist. I never ask for an autograph. I have no need to have someone's signature on a piece of paper. I've got plenty of stuff as it is.

Although it is not my personal thing, it does make me wonder why there are collectors of autographed objects in sports, music, or any field?

Just curious.

[Edited on 5/11/2012 by cyclone88]

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 11:10 AM
I'm singing in the choir!

I have asked for 2 autographs in my life. One was from former NY Yankee/Atlanta Brave, Clete Boyer. Actually, I didn't ask. He was in my mom's office on some business and she brought me in to meet him. Nice guy. The other was from Les Paul. I have a vintage copy of "the New Sound" - took it to the Irridium. He hung around to sign. I really only went to speak to him - thank him for sharing his gift, etc. He was very gracious (yet tired).

I've had several incidental meetings with some folks that I admire over the years. For me, the memory of the conversation - however brief, is much more of a memento than a quickly scrawled signature.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 11:10 AM
I'm singing in the choir!

I have asked for 2 autographs in my life. One was from former NY Yankee/Atlanta Brave, Clete Boyer. Actually, I didn't ask. He was in my mom's office on some business and she brought me in to meet him. Nice guy. The other was from Les Paul. I have a vintage copy of "the New Sound" - took it to the Irridium. He hung around to sign. I really only went to speak to him - thank him for sharing his gift, etc. He was very gracious (yet tired).

I've had several incidental meetings with some folks that I admire over the years. For me, the memory of the conversation - however brief, is much more of a memento than a quickly scrawled signature.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 11:11 AM
Sorry about the double post. I guesss I spilt coffee into my computer or something.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 11:19 AM
i kinda agree, no big deal, but it doesnt excuse the false sale. if i were a celebrity, id feel sick to my stomach charging someone for a sig. doesnt seem right to me. either way, im loving the book, and trying to ignore this drama cause its a real bummer. stinks that all this negative attention is taking away from Greggs hard work.
 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 12:23 PM
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Sorry about the double post. I guesss I spilt coffee into my computer or something.

I thought you were just harmonizing in the choir.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 01:10 PM
My question is why do people want autographs of famous people?

When I first started attending concerts, I would save the ticket from the show by gluing it to the album cover of said band's record I had that was closest to the concert's date. I thought it was pretty cool, for example, My Richard Betts ticket from Winterland - 12/74 was attached to "Highway Call"...So people would be over at the Apt. looking through your records, and "Wham"!...the response of the browser would make it worthwhile.."You were at this show"!?.. I had the memory in the form of the ticket and someone else always got a charge out of that as well....
So it started for me when I was given a copy of the coffee table book "Saga of the Saints" back in '91 or so. Being a lifelong Saints fan, my new goal was to get some of the players I liked to sign their full color action photos in that book. Accomplishing that, the same feeling is achieved for me when another die hard is over watching football and lets it slip that he /she is a Saints devotee. "Do you want to see something cool"?

My Gretsch is a good example of that, It has been signed by Derek, Susan & Warren. I had the thing right there at Gregg's feet while we talked, but he would not sign it...afraid I would sell it on E-Bay. I was 15 feet from Boz Scaggs, he would not sign, afraid of the same thing...Right, like anyone here who loves this band's music like me would ever, ever sell that. But my point is, I could have other "famous" musicians sign it......But I won't, it would seem like littering to this guy....

For me, it is not that they are "Famous", it is that I admire what they do and how they do it.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 01:22 PM
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First, this is not about the autopen books. That's covered on a lot of other threads.

My question is why do people want autographs of famous people?

I have been backstage and to book signings to meet an artist. I never ask for an autograph. I have no need to have someone's signature on a piece of paper. I've got plenty of stuff as it is.

Although it is not my personal thing, it does make me wonder why there are collectors of autographed objects in sports, music, or any field?

Just curious.

[Edited on 5/11/2012 by cyclone88]
why do people want original Warhol's, etc.


Apples and tomatoes! Don't know about Warhols (not a fan), but I do appreciate works of art - each one unique! A signature is a signature.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 01:39 PM
to me a purchased autograph probably wouldn't mean much. the Joe Frazier pic I got unasked for and signed in a momemt of giving from Smokin' Joe himself, I wouldn't sell it for anything. priceless. it defined a personal moment that was unplanned and a gift from Creator.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 02:30 PM
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My question is why do people want autographs of famous people?

Why do people collect stamps, coins, or neon lights?

Must be the same ol' thing that make a tom cat fight all night.




 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 02:33 PM
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My question is why do people want autographs of famous people?

Why do people collect stamps, coins, or neon lights?

Must be the same ol' thing that make a tom cat fight all night.






Just don't collect dust!

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 04:21 PM
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My question is why do people want autographs of famous people?



Because I paid for one?


and if yoiu like books it doesnt matter if its a famous person or not, its cool to have the authors sig in a book, esp. when you want to give one as a gift. BTW, this only applies to having one autograph in the book. having an autopen jobbie and then getting a real one under it would look extremely cheezy, both in the book and getting the author to sign under one.

[Edited on 5/11/2012 by OriginalGoober]

 

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 05:58 PM
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to me a purchased autograph probably wouldn't mean much. the Joe Frazier pic I got unasked for and signed in a momemt of giving from Smokin' Joe himself, I wouldn't sell it for anything. priceless. it defined a personal moment that was unplanned and a gift from Creator.


Never really been an autograph hunter but when I met Smokin' Joe at an Ozzy show at the Tower in Philly in 1991 I just about managed to hold it together enough to ask him to sign my setlist laminate. Legend! and a very gracious man from my brief experience.

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 07:02 PM
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to me a purchased autograph probably wouldn't mean much. the Joe Frazier pic I got unasked for and signed in a momemt of giving from Smokin' Joe himself, I wouldn't sell it for anything. priceless. it defined a personal moment that was unplanned and a gift from Creator.


Never really been an autograph hunter but when I met Smokin' Joe at an Ozzy show at the Tower in Philly in 1991 I just about managed to hold it together enough to ask him to sign my setlist laminate. Legend! and a very gracious man from my brief experience.

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 09:41 PM
I see both sides of this coin.

A while ago, I could give a rat's rear end about autographs. Through the years, I've started to truly appreciate (some of) them. Among other things, I have a First Set poster signed by the entire band. When I look at that poster, it really takes me back to those first couple of years of reunion shows. I'm not one of the current Dickey defenders, but it's awfully cool to see his signature next to Gregg's and Allen Woody's (as well as the rest of the band).

I don't think I've gone out of my way to get autographs as I feel funny asking. The only person I recall actually asking was Jack Pearson. It's just an autograph, and I honestly don't know what to do with it. All my others are signed pictures or posters that I would display for the sake of displaying.

I understand why some people don't care one way or the other. I mean if it's a musician, you'll have the music, and that should be enough. Having said that I would love that Les Paul signature. I am a fan, and I would love that personal memento from him.

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  posted on 5/11/2012 at 09:54 PM
As a result of my autograph collecting, I have met all of the following people:

Gregg Allman
Jaimoe
Derek and Susan
Oteil
Warren
Marc
Matt Abts
Jeff Beck
Les Paul
Page McConnell
Mike Gordon
Maceo Parker
Alejandro Escovedo
Devon Allman and Honeytribe
Kirstie Alley
Harland Williams
Grant Fuhr
Lou Holtz
Mario Lemieux
Sidney Crosby
Evgeni Malkin
Ben Roethlisberger
Hines ward
Troy Polamalu
Charles Barkley
etc.

I do it so I can see what people are really like. 99% of them are decent people with a few jerks thrown in here and there. It is a fun hobby and I love to look at them from time to time.

 

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  posted on 5/14/2012 at 08:10 PM
Thanks for the responses. Sounds like it's all about the moment of meeting the signer and making a memory. No one mentioned a thing about having a meaningful experience from a purchased autograph.
 

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  posted on 5/14/2012 at 09:18 PM
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First, this is not about the autopen books. That's covered on a lot of other threads.

My question is why do people want autographs of famous people?

I have been backstage and to book signings to meet an artist. I never ask for an autograph. I have no need to have someone's signature on a piece of paper. I've got plenty of stuff as it is.

Although it is not my personal thing, it does make me wonder why there are collectors of autographed objects in sports, music, or any field?

Just curious.

[Edited on 5/11/2012 by cyclone88]
why do people want original Warhol's, etc.


II think collecting autographs is a fine hobby.

Andy Warhol signed a Campbell's Soup can for me in Miami in 1980. Still have the label; the can exploded about 10 years ago...funny story....

Why do ANY of us do the things we do? I have jumped out of airplanes, caved miles underground, flown gliders, fought fires, delivered babies...WTF?

Unless you are DEAD, you really need to be doing SOMETHING with your life. Raising children, planting flowers, collecting salt-and-pepper shakers, walking in the rain, feeding the elderly...

It ALL is going to end before you want it to and it does not hurt to have pieces of Life around you that make you, or some one else, smile.

No one person in this world is greater than YOU.

I have a baseball signed by all the members of my sonís baseball team when they could hardly write. It is worth millions to me even after my son has forgotten the names of his playmates. I was there and I saw the joy in their faces.

Life is all about memories. Cherish them, they will pass this way but once.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 12:27 AM
Collecting is a big word but through the years i have a whole bunch. I usually keep them in albums in which i store my concert tickets, guitar picks, flyers, promo stickers etc.

I have a few signed one dollar bills which i have framed.

The reason? A tour souvenir. Out of admiration for that specific musician. A nice addition to my collection. When i see a band live which i never saw before and i want to get a CD
because i liked their show i get it signed because said artist is often signing them at their
CD stand.

I usually do not pay for them (Gregg's book pres-sale being the exception) nor do i stand in line for them for a long time. I only ask for them when i think it's okay to do so. I wouldn't interrupt somebody's dinner for it (or my own dinner btw ).

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 06:20 AM


How could I pass on this opportunity?

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 12:29 PM
i thought meeting little feat after a show in the late 90's was great..bill payne especially..my ticket was signed by everyone in the band except the back up singer..shaun murphy i think her name is..the autographs enhance the experience and memory
 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 12:46 PM
I am unlikely to ever buy an autograph, but the few autographs I have, I got by meeting the individual in person.

It creates something that reminds of that day...a pleasant memory...or sometimes a story to tell (like Dickey Betts and him putting his hat on my head). I get them framed and put them up on my Man Cave (basement) wall. It means something to me although I know it isn't important to anyone else.

I would never think of it as worth any money, nor would I sell any of them if they had any financial value.

Mitch

BigV...Mel and Ann...that must have been a great moment!

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 12:56 PM
I have a few autographs, mostly of athletes but a few musicians here and there.
My two most cherished autographs were both from my fathers collections, first one being a signed Frank Sinatra photograph, the second being a signed Joe DiMaggio baseball. Both of these men were my fathers idols, and as I result i grew up worshiping them also. They are two autographs I will have on display for my entire life.
One day if I ever have a child I would love to share my hero's growing up and pass on the memories I had from them, The Allman Brothers Band is probably highest on my list of influences or "idols" if I ever had any to call my own. I guess the corny dream would be I could share my love for the ABB the way my father shared his love of Sinatra and DiMaggio with me and pass down that memoribillia that i collected throughout the years. Hopefully they would cherish it the way I cherished the stuff my father gave to me.
That is why having Gregg's autograph was so important to me, that is why autogate or whatever the hell its called these days burned so much.

Autographs are about memories, they bring you closer to the people you idolized for whatever reason, yes its just a signed piece of paper but its a rare thing that you can say you both touched... just as their music has touched you just the same.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 01:31 PM
If I drill holes in my Les Paul and attach the pick guard that Warren signed can I sell the guitar as being signed by Warren Haynes?

This is my favorite autographed item, if you ever see it for sale I'm either dead or dead broke.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2012 at 02:21 PM
my reply would be, if you have to ask you aren't going to understand the reply.

I hope this doesn't come across as bragging but les paul was nice enough to sign two pick guards for me, one is fading but I just get up every morning and look at the other one and the les paul guitar that it is on and think, "wow!"

sometime about 12 years or so ago I realized you could have more memories of a concert than just whatever you heard and a ticket stub and now I have plenty of audience recordings, instant lives, personalized guitar picks, signed set lists, signed record albums or cd cases etc. Paid for very few of them. the picks are in a yogurt cup, most of the signed stuff is in a pile in the corner of a room, usually it doesn't matter to me what I do with it after I get it, it was the experience of getting it that counted. I know several folks whose goal in life is meeting and getting autographs from everyone still living who performed on the stage at woodstock festival. those people have some stories.

I thoroughly enjoyed meeting bb king a couple of times and getting him to autograph something but my favorite besides les is quincy jones's autograph that I got at the georgia music hall of fame dinner where gregg was honored (he signed too--both of them signed the program)--I was looking for rem's autographs since I knew pete buck personally (how come he is some rock star and I'm not, I wonder?) but they took the back way out through the kitchen. I caught up with pete later.

 
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