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  posted on 6/8/2012 at 03:22 PM
http://youtu.be/ZeWe9be-2mA

I like this new song

 
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  posted on 6/8/2012 at 03:25 PM
Whole crowd on the mountain loved it!!! What a cooker!!!

 

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  posted on 6/8/2012 at 03:43 PM
Cool song. I like the guitar riff played during the verse, and the breakdown/2nd solo. But...

Warren's songwriting has definitely gotten stale, with many songs from Deja Voodoo, High and Mighty and By a Thread almost sounding interchangeable. With Woody, every album had it's own distinct sound and style and now that's kind of gone away and been replaced with essentially songs that instead of being actual songs, seem to be a vehicle for Warren to solo over. Kind of why I only listened to By a Thread a few times and then lost interest in it, nothing stood out for me.

 

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  posted on 6/17/2012 at 09:15 AM
It is great that warren continues to write music for govt mule.
 

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  posted on 6/18/2012 at 11:46 AM
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Cool song. I like the guitar riff played during the verse, and the breakdown/2nd solo. But...

Warren's songwriting has definitely gotten stale, with many songs from Deja Voodoo, High and Mighty and By a Thread almost sounding interchangeable. With Woody, every album had it's own distinct sound and style and now that's kind of gone away and been replaced with essentially songs that instead of being actual songs, seem to be a vehicle for Warren to solo over. Kind of why I only listened to By a Thread a few times and then lost interest in it, nothing stood out for me.


I agree. In the end I was disapointed in By a Thread. The best song was "Forevermore" which Warren wrote a considerable time ago. I think the problem is that he did not come into the studio with finished songs. By his own admission they would come up with a big riff then he would go to a back room to write some lyrics. Not the way to write timeless songs IMO.

I like a lot of the songs on Deja Voodoo. I think that is an underrated album. Slackjaw Jezebel is as good as anything he ever wrote. Bad Man Walking, Mr. Man, Lola and New World Blues are top quality Mule songs. On High and Mighty, I think Brand New Angel, Streamline Woman and Million Miles are outstanding. The rest is not that memorable.

If forced to choose, my all time favorite studio album by the Mule is Life Before Insanity.

 

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  posted on 6/18/2012 at 12:35 PM
I dig the new tune also love By A Thread.

 

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  posted on 6/18/2012 at 08:31 PM
If it's done Rockin' Horse>World Boss or World Boss>Rockin' Horse I think that would be a killer 1, 2 punch.

Endless Parade is a great tune, I'm glad to see them playing it again. They should also bring back Three String George.

Steppin' Lightly, Any Open Window and Inside Outside Woman Blues are great songs to see live.

 

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  posted on 6/18/2012 at 09:54 PM
How many songs can you write with the word ''World'' in the title??? It seems like every album has one. Like sukO said, the songs off the last three or four albums are interchangeable. Too many recycled lyrics and cliches. In my opinion, Warren's writing dried up about 12 years ago.

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  posted on 6/18/2012 at 11:07 PM
I think your opinions are pretty lame guys. I say Warren is a great songwriter, and I have dug every album. Well, except Mighty High. Why don't you all try to write a few albums and then get back to us. and we can give lame critique's of your art. give me a break.
 

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  posted on 6/19/2012 at 12:05 PM
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I think your opinions are pretty lame guys. I say Warren is a great songwriter, and I have dug every album. Well, except Mighty High. Why don't you all try to write a few albums and then get back to us. and we can give lame critique's of your art. give me a break.


That is the ultimate cop out sorry. "Why don't YOU write an album." I suppose you never criticize pro athletes because you can't play at their level. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Whether they can write songs or not.

I don't think Warren's writing has dried up at all. Man in Motion is proof of that. I think the nature of the way he wrote the songs on the last album is what caused those songs to be less than memorable. As I said he didn't actually write songs as the muse hit him, the way I assume he has done in the past. He went into the studio with the band, worked up a riff or groove, came up with a melody on the spot and then retreated to another room to write lyrics. In my opinion that method will lead to average songs not the kind of brilliant songs that fill his catelogue. I hope and trust the next album will be better. That said, IMO the albums are all still good and I enjoy listening to them. Just by HIS standards I don't think they are up to snuff. I am as entitled to my opinion as anyone else.

 

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  posted on 6/19/2012 at 01:22 PM
Personally I love everything Mule. There isn't a single album that I don't either like very much or love. I certainly don't put every record on the same level but I don't and haven't done that with any of the bands I love or have loved over the years. The last two records are probably my least favorites but there are still lots of songs on each that I like or love very much. fROM 'High And Mighty' I love Streamline Woman, M.r High and Mighty, Brand New Angel, Endless Parade, Child Of The Earth, Brighter Days and the highly IMO underrated 'Nothing Again'. The only songs I do not dig on it are 'Like Flies' and 'Unring The Bell. IMO, if you don't consider that to be a top notch record then you are probably just a little bit spoiled. Same with 'By A Thread'. From that one I love 'Steppin' Lightly', 'Any Open Window', 'Monday Morning Meltdown', 'Broke Down On The Brazos', 'Railroad Boy', and 'Gordon James'! All top notch music IMO. Is it 'Dose' or 'Life Before Insanity'??? No, but still excellent IMO.

I do not think Warren's writing has dried up at all and I don't even need to use 'Man In Motion' as an example. I liked that album but I am talking strictly Gov't Mule. I like WHB but they don't come close to doing for me what the Mule does and as well crafted as 'Man In Motion' is, personally I don't like it as much as I like any Gov't Mule record. Different strokes for different folks.

It is almost impossible to write enough top flight music to produce albums like 'Dose' of 'Life Without Insanity' which are INCREDIBLE from beginning to end. Very few recording artists, even the top all time bands come out with more than one or two of those kind of blockbuster albums that are good from beginning to end during their careers. IMO the last two records have more than half great songs and the rest are average, but I don't consider any of it filler as I see from many other bands on a constant basis.

I for one am happy to have a band and a band leader who constantly try to push the boundaries and isn't afraid to experiment and evolve. Does Warren and Mule have another 'Dose' or 'Life Before Insanity' in them???? Who knows, maybe yes, maybe no, but there are a zillion bands out there that have never come out with a single record up to those kind of standards who would give their left arms to come out with even one album on the level of Mule's last couple of records. For me, if that first song 'World Boss' is any indication then I look forward to being very happy and satisfied when that brand new Mule album hits the shelf. That is my take.

 

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  posted on 6/19/2012 at 03:49 PM
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Personally I love everything Mule. There isn't a single album that I don't either like very much or love. I certainly don't put every record on the same level but I don't and haven't done that with any of the bands I love or have loved over the years. The last two records are probably my least favorites but there are still lots of songs on each that I like or love very much. fROM 'High And Mighty' I love Streamline Woman, M.r High and Mighty, Brand New Angel, Endless Parade, Child Of The Earth, Brighter Days and the highly IMO underrated 'Nothing Again'. The only songs I do not dig on it are 'Like Flies' and 'Unring The Bell. IMO, if you don't consider that to be a top notch record then you are probably just a little bit spoiled. Same with 'By A Thread'. From that one I love 'Steppin' Lightly', 'Any Open Window', 'Monday Morning Meltdown', 'Broke Down On The Brazos', 'Railroad Boy', and 'Gordon James'! All top notch music IMO. Is it 'Dose' or 'Life Before Insanity'??? No, but still excellent IMO.

I do not think Warren's writing has dried up at all and I don't even need to use 'Man In Motion' as an example. I liked that album but I am talking strictly Gov't Mule. I like WHB but they don't come close to doing for me what the Mule does and as well crafted as 'Man In Motion' is, personally I don't like it as much as I like any Gov't Mule record. Different strokes for different folks.

It is almost impossible to write enough top flight music to produce albums like 'Dose' of 'Life Without Insanity' which are INCREDIBLE from beginning to end. Very few recording artists, even the top all time bands come out with more than one or two of those kind of blockbuster albums that are good from beginning to end during their careers. IMO the last two records have more than half great songs and the rest are average, but I don't consider any of it filler as I see from many other bands on a constant basis.

I for one am happy to have a band and a band leader who constantly try to push the boundaries and isn't afraid to experiment and evolve. Does Warren and Mule have another 'Dose' or 'Life Before Insanity' in them???? Who knows, maybe yes, maybe no, but there are a zillion bands out there that have never come out with a single record up to those kind of standards who would give their left arms to come out with even one album on the level of Mule's last couple of records. For me, if that first song 'World Boss' is any indication then I look forward to being very happy and satisfied when that brand new Mule album hits the shelf. That is my take.


You have a point as every one of these albums would be a "double LP". No filler. I do wish, however, that Warren would take the time to write the kind of thoughtful lyrics he wrote on songs like Banks of the Deep End and Time to Confess, Beautifully Broken etc. Lyrically I thought the latest was weak for him.

 

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