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  posted on 6/28/2012 at 09:02 PM
I hear here and I am watching Fox News tonight on the same ole same ole: Obama should be out of office for treason. He is not a good president. He was not born here. The Liberals ,led by Obama, have taxed and spent our country into oblivion. No Obamacare. I refuse to pay for your healthcare.
The Liberal Democrats tax and spend and look at what we have: insolvent Soc. Secuirty, Medicare fraud run rampant, and social programs.
Don't tread on me. No more new taxs. You need to get a job .I am tired of paying for everybody else. Obama is a Muslim and he is not Christian. We are losing our freedoms in this country , thanks to Obuma. I am against abortion.
Obuma is for spreading the wealth. I don't want to spread my hard earned money to people who don't work. It is not Constitutional. This is not Constitutional. We need to follow the Constitution.


And the list is endless. The things the talkingheads say on Fox News, and that people repeat, and all the catch phrases and soundbites, and the dividing and conquering by both parties have gotten us to where we are and it is really dangerous.

My opinion, and I voted for Obama. I cannot vote this time because I don't know where I will be living. I cannot find a teaching job in TX. School teachers have been laid off here and many places.I have to move, but I do not know where.
Enough of my story, but I wish Obama would lose the next election and be based on a fairly decent president for the past four years or be based ok later by historians and based on nthe what if's he were elceted in 2012 and looking back , points where he was on the right track on some things.

I put the country first before my vote, Obama, wahtever. I really feel since he got elected, lets say the elpephant abd be honest, 1-Democrat, adn 2-Blck guy nd with a funny name,it has been hell and war between friends, coworkers, neighbors, the two parties. Some people Pro -Obama and some Anit Obama.

My questions is, lets say Romney gets elected and I hope he does. For peace sake I hope he does because then everybody can STFU- Shut The Fu ck Up!!!!
We know first thing Romney and the GOP will do is repeal ALL of this Nat. HC under Obama. That b will settle that. next, privatize Soc. Sec. I, my genertion, has been told since the time of Regan that when I get , my generation gets 65, there will be no Soc. Sec. It is just a tax.
Privatize Soc. Sec. ,hmmm, watch what you wish for. Repeal this Nat. HC, careful.
Syria, per McCain's stance on Syria,hmmm, sems to me, I think a draft will be in order.
The democrats, if Obama loses , are cooked for at least two presidential election cycles, 8 years or even 12 years.

I think if Romney is elected, then everybody will, should be happy and shut up. Whatever he and the GOP do to us, our country for 8 years, 12 years, so be it. Get what you wish , want. The Democrats are weak. They are awful in pr. Awful in bullshi tting and even lying. They cannot get their point across to people who need what they are offering. The do not explain, push, show, prove, get at the the people ,the audience they need to .

I am listening to CNN now and it seems Romney and the GOP will use this nd the economy for a sure win in 2012. All they ahev to do is keep driving this home and twist and aim forthe audience who needs HC and tell them , though they may need it, this is not nthe way. ...democrats taxing and spending, ...no soultions, but people will say, yeah.
Weak Democrats side ,it is a bit more unbiased, compromised. The Republicans, their way or no way.



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I hear here and I am watching Fox News tonight on the same ole same ole: Obama should be out of office for treason. He is not a good president. He was not born here. The Liberals ,led by Obama, have taxed and spent our country into oblivion. No Obamacare. I refuse to pay for your healthcare.
The Liberal Democrats tax and spend and look at what we have: insolvent Soc. Secuirty, Medicare fraud run rampant, and social programs.
Don't tread on me. No more new taxs. You need to get a job .I am tired of paying for everybody else. Obama is a Muslim and he is not Christian. We are losing our freedoms in this country , thanks to Obuma. I am against abortion.
Obuma is for spreading the wealth. I don't want to spread my hard earned money to people who don't work. It is not Constitutional. This is not Constitutional. We need to follow the Constitution.


And the list is endless. The things the talkingheads say on Fox News, and that people repeat, and all the catch phrases and soundbites, and the dividing and conquering by both parties ahve gotten us to where we are and it is really dangerous.

My opinion, and I voted for Obama. I cannot vote this time because I don't know where I will be living. I cannot find a teaching job in TX. School teachers have been laid off here and many places.I have to move, but I do not know where.
Enough of my story, but I wish Obama would lose the next election and be based on a fairly decent president for the past four years or be based ok later by historians and based on nthe what if's he were elceted in 2012 and looking back , points where he was on the right track on some things.

I put the country first before my vote, Obama, wahtever. I really feel since he got elected, lets say the elpephant abd be honest, 1-Democrat, adn 2-Blck guy nd with a funny name,it has been hell and war between friends, coworkers, neighbors, the two parties. Some people Pro -Obama and some Anit Obama.

My questions is, lets say Romney gets elected and I hope he does. For peace sake I hope he does because then everybody can STFU- Shut The Fu ck Up!!!!
We know first thing Romney and the GOP will do is repeal ALL of this Nat. HC under Obama. That b will settle that. next, privatize Soc. Sec. I, my genertion, has been told since the time of Regan that when I get , my generation gets 65, there will be no Soc. Sec. It is just a tax.
Privatize Soc. Sec. ,hmmm, watch what you wish for. Repeal this Nat. HC, careful.
Syria, per McCain's stance on Syria,hmmm, sems to me, I think a draft will be in order.
The democrats, if Obama loses , are cooked for at least two presidential election cycles, 8 years or even 12 years.

I think if Rom ney is elected, then everybody will,should be happy and shut up. Whatever he and the nGOP does to us, our country for 8 years, 12 years, so be it. Get what you wish , want.


Those things won't happen. We have divided government. Laws are only passed through compromise and consensus. Not only that but the agenda of the White House and Congress are not always the same even when the party is the same. This is not a parliamentary system. Moreover, a president is elected for four years and a Congress for only two years. It is impossible to predict what will happen two years from now let alone 4, 8 or 12.

 

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  posted on 6/28/2012 at 09:21 PM
I disagree with you Doug and I know about election cycles. Thanks. That is not what I meant. Pres GOP for 4, relected, and then another GOP for at least 4 more. Regan-Reagan-Bush, cycle went like this.
The GOP will have this country locked down for a good 8 and maybe 12 years in The WH and in Congress too. This is just the beginning.
The Democrats are just too weak.
Powerless.


 

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  posted on 6/29/2012 at 10:52 AM
This jive is all fixed to begin with.I mean come on,first ya got John McCain,the old man with skin cancers runnin against Obama with Romney in the mix.I mean DUH,its a no brainer folks on whos gonna win that one.Seems to me McCain was in the mix one time before that as well.Now ya got ol Romney,who was in the mix before as well poppin back up.Its a done deal people!America is bein flushed down the drain.No i don't like Romney & i damm sure dont like Hussein as well.But where some of ya'll get off on how great Obama is blows my mind.Hes a damm puppet.While minds are glued to American Idol,Homosexual/Lesbian sit coms,Super Bowls,and more worried about their unlimited text plans than where this country is goin,the machine comtinues to distract,divide,& conquer,burn the constitution & on the story goes.WE ARE FU*KED,,plain and simple.And what scares the pis*outta me,is how many are bought and sold,hook line and sinker on Obama.Its a big picture.But very very simple to see thru the smoke and mirrors.Yet it seems most are so numbed out and in la la land & cant see past a flashy smile.Come on people.Do ya really think the govt loves your as* so much that they'll go to any means to make sure ya have health insurance?Gimmie a break!

 

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I disagree with you Doug and I know about election cycles. Thanks. That is not what I meant. Pres GOP for 4, relected, and then another GOP for at least 4 more. Regan-Reagan-Bush, cycle went like this.
The GOP will have this country locked down for a good 8 and maybe 12 years in The WH and in Congress too. This is just the beginning.
The Democrats are just too weak.
Powerless.




Why do you say that when in 2008 they not only took the White House but both houses of Congress including a 60 seat majority in the Senate? My opinion is they overeached dramatically and blew it in 2010 and, having elected a total incompetent with awful ideas, they are likely to blow the presidency. I have no doubt that if the GOP does not turn things around within the next four years they too will be gone.

 

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2 things have caused this great divide. 1.) Republicans following their leader Rush Limbaugh's orders to obstruct everything this administration tries to accomplish economically even if it hurts tens of millions of people in the process. They hate Obama more then they love America. 2.) Koch Brothers funding and Dick Armey organizing the Tea Baggers and hijacking the republican party narrative with ideas that can only be characterized as overtly ignorant.

 

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  posted on 6/29/2012 at 11:18 AM
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2 things have caused this great divide. 1.) Republicans following their leader Rush Limbaugh's orders to obstruct everything this administration tries to accomplish economically even if it hurts tens of millions of people in the process. They hate Obama more then they love America. 2.) Koch Brothers funding and Dick Armey organizing the Tea Baggers and hijacking the republican party narrative with ideas that can only be characterized as overtly ignorant.


I think you give Rush WAAAAAY too much credit.

 

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2 things have caused this great divide. 1.) Republicans following their leader Rush Limbaugh's orders to obstruct everything this administration tries to accomplish economically even if it hurts tens of millions of people in the process. They hate Obama more then they love America. 2.) Koch Brothers funding and Dick Armey organizing the Tea Baggers and hijacking the republican party narrative with ideas that can only be characterized as overtly ignorant.


Keep believing that if it helps you sleep at night.

 

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  posted on 6/29/2012 at 02:04 PM
At one time in history being a democrat was being for the farmer,the small business owner etc.And in exchange hard work,honesty etc was given in return from the people.Nowadays its about entitlements,gimmie gimmie,food stamps,welfare,etc.And NOTHING is given back in return from the people but laziness,immorality etc.Pride,work ethics,responsibility etc are a thing of the past.And this health care bullsh*t is the first step toward the govt running every aspect of your life.But it seems a lotta folks round these parts have no problem with that.
As i watched Pelosi walking out yesterday on the Holder gig like some old hag at a civil rights march with her hands bein held on each side by black leaders,the same prop as was at the health care passing on a Sunday last year,I was hopin somebody would kick her legs out from under her.What a sleazy bit*h!
Seems like a lotta ya'll want this nation to go into a socialized country.Whatever happened to just flat out doin the right thing?Its illegal for a citizen convicted of a felony to vote.Yet the democrats are makin a big deal about illegals not being able to vote.And that having to have a photo id to vote as well is asking to much.Saying that its targeting poor people.WTF is that all about?
Fu*k Obama and his croonies.And fu*k the republicans as well that play the game!

 

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I disagree with you Doug and I know about election cycles. Thanks. That is not what I meant. Pres GOP for 4, relected, and then another GOP for at least 4 more. Regan-Reagan-Bush, cycle went like this.
The GOP will have this country locked down for a good 8 and maybe 12 years in The WH and in Congress too. This is just the beginning.
The Democrats are just too weak.
Powerless.




God help the middle class in this country if we get 12 years of Republicans controlling both the White House and the Congress. Even more so if the first 8 years are of President Flip Romney!!! God help us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Personally I think the next 4 years are gonna suck no matter who wins this November. If Obama gets back in we will just get another 4 years of obstruction by Congress and absolutely nothing gets done. That will lead to the Republicans taking back the White House in 2016 and maybe holding it for 8 years depending on who they get elected. If Romney wins we will go backwards for 4 years and his incredibly stupid policy ideas will further erode the middle class and widen the gap between rich and poor and he will be gone in 4 years paving the way for Hillary Clinton for 4 or 8 years.

I am starting to think that may be the best scenario of them all because another 4 years of Congressional obstruction under Obama will get us nowhere and 4 years of Romney will be a disaster for the middle class in this country, especially for those whose jobs are linked to the government in any way. Pink slips, lower salaries, and no compatible salaried jobs to replace those lost. Sounds like a great way to get the economy going. While we are at it lets deregulate the banks and let them get back to scamming people and give further tax breaks to big corporations on the hope and a prayer that they will bring back American middle class jobs or create new ones instead of just taking the extra profits and just sticking it in their pockets.

 

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  posted on 6/29/2012 at 07:46 PM
"And what are your solutions?"

Buy new bucket!!! Either way we're screwed...might as well enjoy the ride!

<BTW: you wouldn't've liked my solutions...and we're pretty much past that point by now anyway>

 

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  posted on 6/29/2012 at 08:41 PM
There are likely no practical solutions that could or world be adopted because too many disparate groups would rather bicker, fight, and claw their their way for a piece of an ever-shrinking pie than give up anything in exchange for building new opportunities. Too many have come to value security over risk and opportunity. They prefer to ignore the grim truth of the pending collapse of our network of unfunded social promises, and as yet are unwilling to understand or accept the actions necessary to reignite the engine of wealth creation that made us successful in the first place.

Any possible solution has to come first with the citizens demanding truth from their elected officials, and rejecting those who fail to deal with reality. At local and state levels, some of that exists, as mayors and governors come to grips with budget difficulties and make tough, often unpopular choices. At the national level; none of that exists. We have the circus of dishonesty locked endlessly in battle with stupidity, and it appears that the citizens want it that way as measured by the people who are elected to office.

No politician or political structure can protect the citizens from an accumulation of their own bad decisions. We have decades of those to unwind before we can hope to move forward.

 

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2 things have caused this great divide. 1.) Republicans following their leader Rush Limbaugh's orders to obstruct everything this administration tries to accomplish economically even if it hurts tens of millions of people in the process. They hate Obama more then they love America. 2.) Koch Brothers funding and Dick Armey organizing the Tea Baggers and hijacking the republican party narrative with ideas that can only be characterized as overtly ignorant.


Really? Pretty simple explanation right there

 

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2 things have caused this great divide. 1.) Republicans following their leader Rush Limbaugh's orders to obstruct everything this administration tries to accomplish economically even if it hurts tens of millions of people in the process. They hate Obama more then they love America. 2.) Koch Brothers funding and Dick Armey organizing the Tea Baggers and hijacking the republican party narrative with ideas that can only be characterized as overtly ignorant.


Really? Pretty simple explanation right there


Looks right on the mark to me. Obama has nothing to do with it.

 

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You guys on the right need to pay heed to the tea party reference. They came along and caused a huge rift in the party....it's going to hurt the GOP in the long run.

 

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If you're blue collar, working class, live pay to pay,etc. and if you vote Republican it's like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders

 

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If you're blue collar, working class, live pay to pay,etc. and if you vote Republican it's like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders


Makes you wonder why they do. Of course, the GOP scares a lot of people by telling them the democrats are coming for their guns.....been doing it for years now and they haven't figured out that we still have our guns and no one's come for them yet.

 

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If you're blue collar, working class, live pay to pay,etc. and if you vote Republican it's like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders


Makes you wonder why they do. Of course, the GOP scares a lot of people by telling them the democrats are coming for their guns.....been doing it for years now and they haven't figured out that we still have our guns and no one's come for them yet.


Weird. Because when it comes to elections they just seem to keep winning, winning, winning.

 

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If you're blue collar, working class, live pay to pay,etc. and if you vote Republican it's like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders


Makes you wonder why they do. Of course, the GOP scares a lot of people by telling them the democrats are coming for their guns.....been doing it for years now and they haven't figured out that we still have our guns and no one's come for them yet.


Weird. Because when it comes to elections they just seem to keep winning, winning, winning.


Must be all the dumb rednecks who don't understand their own interests.

 

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If you're blue collar, working class, live pay to pay,etc. and if you vote Republican it's like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders


Makes you wonder why they do. Of course, the GOP scares a lot of people by telling them the democrats are coming for their guns.....been doing it for years now and they haven't figured out that we still have our guns and no one's come for them yet.


Weird. Because when it comes to elections they just seem to keep winning, winning, winning.


Must be all the dumb rednecks who don't understand their own interests.


They'll have 19 excuses ready for the next beating, and you can bet NONE will have anything to do with POLICY -- a reaction that just leads to more losses. It's a viscous cycle!

 

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Yes, the Policies of the last republican president (who cannot be named) sure worked. Romney's policy? More of the same? Get rid of Romneycare - with no known replacement for families that need it? Get us in a couple more wars? Can't wait..............

 

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  posted on 7/1/2012 at 05:47 AM
And what are your solutions?

We need to find a way to cure apathy. Fast

 

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Theres a helluva lot more to this health care bill,than just peachy coverage for everyone.Why the hell do ya think they passed the damm thing behind closed doors on a Sunday.And thats not even the tip of the ice berg.Do ya really think the govt loves obese,unemployed,felons etc etc etc etc etc so damm much,that their concerned about them havin health care insurance.Gimmie a friggin break folks!Brew a nice hot pot of cuban coffee and WAKE UP!The world is outta control.And to think that people believe it can just keep goin and goin like it is are in a dream.
Folks can talk about free speech,rights, etc all they want.Society has reached a high point of bein dumbed down.The elite know this and have played it like a 5'th ace.There has to come a time and place where order(NWO)is brought into play.And this folks is the major league series first game ,by the passing of this bill.
Just the thought that some of ya'll are sold on this crap blows my mind.Thinkin Obama,Pelosi etc just love us all so much.And YES the Republicans are part of the same show in a way.They all answer to the BIG DOGS that run the global show.Why the hell do ya think when we are(so they say)15 trillion in debt,that we continue to give billions in aid across the globe.And pass a free(yeah right) bill that'll give all the children,old folks,people with pre-existing health conditions etc health insurance covergae.Are you fu&*in kiddin me?
Seems like there are some brains that lack the thought fiber to see thru all these smoke and mirrors.
The herds gonna be thinned out sooner than ya thought folks.Hope ya enjoy the ride ya so much believed in.

 

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Yes, the Policies of the last republican president (who cannot be named) sure worked. Romney's policy? More of the same? Get rid of Romneycare - with no known replacement for families that need it? Get us in a couple more wars? Can't wait..............


Right. We wouldn't want to go back to 5% unemployment.

 
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