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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 05:30 PM
ok, please excuse me if this is a stupid question, i'm a newbie

for the shows this summer with Santana - as both are "jam bands" and play for hours individually, i'm assuming both bands will have to cut their sets shorter than normal. i've seen ABB at the Beacon a few times and they played for three hours at least... there's no way they can do that for these shows, correct? will they play a more "hit" oriented show? i'm curious because i know most of these venues have a curfew. also, who is opening for who? is ABB headlining? which means Santana will go on first?

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 05:31 PM
also, does anyone know if they will be doing "Meet and Greets" on this tour?!
 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 05:46 PM
Summer girl, you are right that the shows will not be as long as n Evening With The Allmanbrothers Bros at the Beacon. I figure each band will get 75 to 90 minutes, certainly nothing more than 2 hours.

When the ABB plays the sheds or plays a double bill like this, the set list will be somewhat hit oriented but will still have cool things. You might get an instrumental like Les Brers as an opener, you might get a cover like Gilded Splinters.

It is highly likely you will see members of each band sit in with the other band!!!! Very cool.

I believe they are alternating roles as opener / closer each date.

At these gigs, lawn seating is usually inexpensive.

 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 05:56 PM
thanks so much Jim. I actually was lucky enough to get great seats for the PNC Arts Center show in NJ - but honestly, the lawn seats would be great, because in July in can get so hot down closer to the stage... really looking forward to it..
 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 06:28 PM
I would predict that each band will play AT LEAST 90 mins. Probably more. I think this is a co-headlining tour, and I've never seen the ABB play less than 90 mins.

Santana is going on last at PNC.

 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 06:34 PM
hey summer girl,

i'll be at that show. the allmans are up first on the 25th. gate says 6:30 and i will report back with the actual start time. i bet they play from 7 - 9 and santana from 9:30 - 11:30. or it actually might be a 6:#0 start.

if you want to trade lawn for your seats, i'll pay the difference!

 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 06:48 PM
how do you guys know ABB is going on first at PNC?!!!

Sully, can't trade my tickets, i'm just hoping it won't be 100 degress that day!!

who knows or can guess the potential set list??!!

 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 06:50 PM
can't wait for the show at spac.
 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 07:22 PM
ther's no such thing as (a potential set list) with the ABB as the set changes every night and sometimes mid stream,one could probably guess acouple songs,but not the whole set.unexpected treasures is part of the fun....
 

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  posted on 7/7/2012 at 07:23 PM
you can always check previous shows to see whats in rotation,but one really never knows
 

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 03:45 AM
it was publicly announced a while back who would open and close on which dates. as this is my favorite thing to do during the summer (abb at pnc), i pay close attention!

we'll be tailgating as soon as they let us in. come join us.

 

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 06:16 AM
any word on Audience recordings for these shows?
 

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 07:49 AM
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it was publicly announced a while back who would open and close on which dates. as this is my favorite thing to do during the summer (abb at pnc), i pay close attention!

we'll be tailgating as soon as they let us in. come join us.


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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 10:20 AM
I hope the Allmans play first at the SPAC show, so that I can get outta there after the Allmans set.
 

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 10:33 AM
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I hope the Allmans play first at the SPAC show, so that I can get outta there after the Allmans set.

Cool, just checked and does appear the Allmans will play first. Can anybody confirm this?

 

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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 05:12 PM
Just my opinion, but anybody who doesn't stick around to see a Santana show after they have already paid to be there is really missing out. Even if you aren't a big fan, it's worth catching a few songs for free.

Maybe you have some reason you need to leave early, in which case nevermind. But as of 2010, which was the last time I saw them live, Santana is worth seeing. Maybe not the unstoppable juggernaut they were in their prime, but still one of the best live bands on Earth.

Don't forget that there is a good chance Derek will jam with Santana, and judging from the tapes when the Derek Trucks Band opened for Santana a few years ago, that is worth the price of admission.

Just my two cents....

 
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  posted on 7/8/2012 at 05:20 PM
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ok, please excuse me if this is a stupid question, i'm a newbie

for the shows this summer with Santana - as both are "jam bands" and play for hours individually, i'm assuming both bands will have to cut their sets shorter than normal. i've seen ABB at the Beacon a few times and they played for three hours at least... there's no way they can do that for these shows, correct? will they play a more "hit" oriented show? i'm curious because i know most of these venues have a curfew. also, who is opening for who? is ABB headlining? which means Santana will go on first?

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They never play a hit oriented show. They will just cut out some of the longer jams that usually take place during the second set.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2012 at 11:52 AM
Haven't seen the official listing of opening/closing on this tour anywhere on this site. Apologies if it's posted somewhere. Post from Carlos Santana's site below. ABB closing Darien Lake, Jones Beach, and Hartford.
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Santana co-headlining with The Allman Brothers Band!
5/1/2012

Carlos and The Allman Brothers Band will co-headline a few dates around the Northeast this summer!

(* = Santana closes show)
July 22 - Darien Center, NY—Darien Lake PAC
July 24 - Wantagh, NY—Nikon at Jones Beach
July 25 - Holmdel, NJ—PNC Bank Arts Center *
July 27 - Saratoga Springs, NY—SPAC *
July 28 - Hartford, CT—Comcast Theatre
July 30 - Columbia, MD—Merriweather Post Pavilion*

 

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  posted on 7/10/2012 at 12:48 PM
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ok, please excuse me if this is a stupid question, i'm a newbie

for the shows this summer with Santana - as both are "jam bands" and play for hours individually, i'm assuming both bands will have to cut their sets shorter than normal. i've seen ABB at the Beacon a few times and they played for three hours at least... there's no way they can do that for these shows, correct? will they play a more "hit" oriented show? i'm curious because i know most of these venues have a curfew. also, who is opening for who? is ABB headlining? which means Santana will go on first?

thanks


They never play a hit oriented show. They will just cut out some of the longer jams that usually take place during the second set.


With some cross pollination from Santana's percussion section, we could have a much more interesting drum solo than usual. And it would be nice to see Marc get a chance to bring his game to Santana's.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2012 at 02:23 PM
cross pollination


This is what's most appealing to me about this series of shows.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2012 at 09:25 AM
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Just my opinion, but anybody who doesn't stick around to see a Santana show after they have already paid to be there is really missing out. Even if you aren't a big fan, it's worth catching a few songs for free.

Maybe you have some reason you need to leave early, in which case nevermind. But as of 2010, which was the last time I saw them live, Santana is worth seeing. Maybe not the unstoppable juggernaut they were in their prime, but still one of the best live bands on Earth.

Don't forget that there is a good chance Derek will jam with Santana, and judging from the tapes when the Derek Trucks Band opened for Santana a few years ago, that is worth the price of admission.

Just my two cents....


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  posted on 7/18/2012 at 12:01 PM
Just got some chills.

Stef Scamardo on XM Sirius Jam On was just mentioning the ABB/Santana shows & said "rumor has it that you'll be able to see 3 of the greatest guitar players jamming together". She might know something...

Tuesday night - Jones Beach - can't get here fast enough.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2012 at 12:10 PM
3great guitarists - Carlos, Warren, Derek. Indeed! I have been assuming as a matter of course that there will be mingling. I just wonder on what. In A Silent Way would be nice, as Santana used to do that...
 

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  posted on 7/18/2012 at 12:33 PM
I assumed it too, but to hear it from Steph makes it as close to fact as possible at this point. It should be interesting. It should be phenomenal.
 

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  posted on 7/18/2012 at 06:07 PM
Looking forward to Sunday @ Darien,going to be a good one
 
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