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  posted on 7/30/2012 at 08:09 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/07/30/whiplash-mitt-romney-lavis hes-praise-on-israels-socialist-government-controlled-healthcare-system/

 

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  posted on 7/30/2012 at 08:22 PM
It's good enough for Israel and it was good enough for Massachusettes but funny it's not good enough for the rest of the country.

 

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  posted on 7/30/2012 at 10:14 PM
A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.

 

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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?

 

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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.

 

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  posted on 7/30/2012 at 11:09 PM
Doesn't sound like he questioned anything.................you need to keep your rants straight.........

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 12:38 AM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 11:17 AM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 12:12 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?


It's funny how Rahm Emanuel had no problem working as Obama's right hand man for three years, then wants to block a chicken restaurant from operating in Chicago for holding the same view.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 12:13 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?


It's funny how Rahm Emanuel had no problem working as Obama's right hand man for three years, then wants to block a chicken restaurant from operating in Chicago for holding the same view.


It's funny how Obama's stance on gay marriage was the long pole in tent of his campaign in '08 and that's why he said people should elect him.

 

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What's also funny is how Obama got Illinois to legalize gay marriage 8 years before running for President and then came out against it in 2008.



That was hilarious.

 

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If Obama found a cure for cancer,the R's would accuse him of cutting healthcare jobs,their (the R's) idea of healthcare is they should be able to bring their guns to the doctors office.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 12:49 PM
The gay people I know support Obama because of some of the things he's done while he's been in office. As for gay marriage....last I looked it was up to the states to decide what to do. Just wait....I read there is a gay marriage platform in the democratic party coming up.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 01:23 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?


At least Obama was consistent for over 3 years. Depending on who he's talking to, Romney can't stay consistent for 3 hours.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 02:54 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?



That is as apples and oranges as it gets! Two completely different topics. Healthcare is life and death necessity, gay marriage isn't. I can easily see how someone would change their mind over something social like gay marriage. I can not for the life of me know how someone whose core convictions included supporting and pushing Romneycare/Obamacare and who proclaimed it was the model for the entire country could change their mind about that in a mere 4 years. IMO Romney is as phony as a 3 dollar bill and will say whatever the crowd in front of him at any given time want to hear. He stands for nothing!!!

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 06:57 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?


It's funny how Rahm Emanuel had no problem working as Obama's right hand man for three years, then wants to block a chicken restaurant from operating in Chicago for holding the same view.


He's a total skunk.

 

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What's also funny is how Obama got Illinois to legalize gay marriage 8 years before running for President and then came out against it in 2008.



That was hilarious.


He's funny that way.

 

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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?



That is as apples and oranges as it gets! Two completely different topics. Healthcare is life and death necessity, gay marriage isn't. I can easily see how someone would change their mind over something social like gay marriage. I can not for the life of me know how someone whose core convictions included supporting and pushing Romneycare/Obamacare and who proclaimed it was the model for the entire country could change their mind about that in a mere 4 years. IMO Romney is as phony as a 3 dollar bill and will say whatever the crowd in front of him at any given time want to hear. He stands for nothing!!!


I agree that Obama has very clear views on everything. He just has no qualms about lying about them when expedient to do so. Gay marriage being one prominent example. Does anyone seriously believe he opposed gay marriage in 2008?

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 07:37 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?



That is as apples and oranges as it gets! Two completely different topics. Healthcare is life and death necessity, gay marriage isn't. I can easily see how someone would change their mind over something social like gay marriage. I can not for the life of me know how someone whose core convictions included supporting and pushing Romneycare/Obamacare and who proclaimed it was the model for the entire country could change their mind about that in a mere 4 years. IMO Romney is as phony as a 3 dollar bill and will say whatever the crowd in front of him at any given time want to hear. He stands for nothing!!!


I agree that Obama has very clear views on everything. He just has no qualms about lying about them when expedient to do so. Gay marriage being one prominent example. Does anyone seriously believe he opposed gay marriage in 2008?


I'm not sure if he did or didn't, but he certainly didn't do anything in office to form policy allowing gay marriage. He didn't write or sign into law during his first term any laws allowing gay marriage. In other words, he didn't say one thing and then legislate in a different manner. I'd call that keeping his word.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 08:46 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?



That is as apples and oranges as it gets! Two completely different topics. Healthcare is life and death necessity, gay marriage isn't. I can easily see how someone would change their mind over something social like gay marriage. I can not for the life of me know how someone whose core convictions included supporting and pushing Romneycare/Obamacare and who proclaimed it was the model for the entire country could change their mind about that in a mere 4 years. IMO Romney is as phony as a 3 dollar bill and will say whatever the crowd in front of him at any given time want to hear. He stands for nothing!!!


I agree that Obama has very clear views on everything. He just has no qualms about lying about them when expedient to do so. Gay marriage being one prominent example. Does anyone seriously believe he opposed gay marriage in 2008?


I'm not sure if he did or didn't, but he certainly didn't do anything in office to form policy allowing gay marriage. He didn't write or sign into law during his first term any laws allowing gay marriage. In other words, he didn't say one thing and then legislate in a different manner. I'd call that keeping his word.


He said he was against it when he really wasn't. Some call that hypocrisy, at least when it's a Republican. I call it being a politician. They all do it. Over and over again.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2012 at 10:58 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?



That is as apples and oranges as it gets! Two completely different topics. Healthcare is life and death necessity, gay marriage isn't. I can easily see how someone would change their mind over something social like gay marriage. I can not for the life of me know how someone whose core convictions included supporting and pushing Romneycare/Obamacare and who proclaimed it was the model for the entire country could change their mind about that in a mere 4 years. IMO Romney is as phony as a 3 dollar bill and will say whatever the crowd in front of him at any given time want to hear. He stands for nothing!!!


I agree that Obama has very clear views on everything. He just has no qualms about lying about them when expedient to do so. Gay marriage being one prominent example. Does anyone seriously believe he opposed gay marriage in 2008?


I'm not sure if he did or didn't, but he certainly didn't do anything in office to form policy allowing gay marriage. He didn't write or sign into law during his first term any laws allowing gay marriage. In other words, he didn't say one thing and then legislate in a different manner. I'd call that keeping his word.


He said he was against it when he really wasn't. Some call that hypocrisy, at least when it's a Republican. I call it being a politician. They all do it. Over and over again.



No they do not. Not in my opinion. They almost all flip on one or two fringe issues but not on their core convictions, the very thoughts and ideas that make someone who they are, convictions that everybody have. The things we won't budge on philosophically. Romney has no core issue convictions. He constantly flips and panders to whatever crowd he is talking to. He is core less and believes in nothing and in everything at the same time. He, like McCain before him completely changes themselves and flipped on almost every major issue in order to get nominated. Well, he got his nomination and now he has to explain why he has no core convictions and why someone can go to youtube and find Romney in completely conflicting statements about just about every issue, at least a half dozen big ones. He sold his soul to get nominated and now he will if elected have to live with himself governing against many of his true convictions and beliefs. Hope he sleeps well at night.

More phony than a 3 dollar bill!!!

 

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  posted on 8/1/2012 at 11:29 AM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?



That is as apples and oranges as it gets! Two completely different topics. Healthcare is life and death necessity, gay marriage isn't. I can easily see how someone would change their mind over something social like gay marriage. I can not for the life of me know how someone whose core convictions included supporting and pushing Romneycare/Obamacare and who proclaimed it was the model for the entire country could change their mind about that in a mere 4 years. IMO Romney is as phony as a 3 dollar bill and will say whatever the crowd in front of him at any given time want to hear. He stands for nothing!!!


I agree that Obama has very clear views on everything. He just has no qualms about lying about them when expedient to do so. Gay marriage being one prominent example. Does anyone seriously believe he opposed gay marriage in 2008?


I'm not sure if he did or didn't, but he certainly didn't do anything in office to form policy allowing gay marriage. He didn't write or sign into law during his first term any laws allowing gay marriage. In other words, he didn't say one thing and then legislate in a different manner. I'd call that keeping his word.


He said he was against it when he really wasn't. Some call that hypocrisy, at least when it's a Republican. I call it being a politician. They all do it. Over and over again.



No they do not. Not in my opinion. They almost all flip on one or two fringe issues but not on their core convictions, the very thoughts and ideas that make someone who they are, convictions that everybody have. The things we won't budge on philosophically. Romney has no core issue convictions. He constantly flips and panders to whatever crowd he is talking to. He is core less and believes in nothing and in everything at the same time. He, like McCain before him completely changes themselves and flipped on almost every major issue in order to get nominated. Well, he got his nomination and now he has to explain why he has no core convictions and why someone can go to youtube and find Romney in completely conflicting statements about just about every issue, at least a half dozen big ones. He sold his soul to get nominated and now he will if elected have to live with himself governing against many of his true convictions and beliefs. Hope he sleeps well at night.

More phony than a 3 dollar bill!!!


In my opinion when it comes to his core convictions on the best way to help restore economic prosperity he has been and will be consistent. That is all that matters to me at this point. I am not a huge fan of his but he meets my minimum threshold to replace the current president by a country mile.

 

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  posted on 8/1/2012 at 02:32 PM
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A few days ago it was stupid to question something when visiting a foreign neighbor..
Remember? Doing so in England was such a gaffe!

We already know that whatever Romney says or does is NOT going to be correct, no matter what.




Sounds familiar, huh?


People forgetting what they typed two days ago? I guess so.


Apparently, Romney forgets what he said two days ago too. The right ate Kerry alive for what Romney is doing. Now there is nothing but crickets. I'd respect Romney more if he just came out and said he is for socialized medicine. He obviously is, but it doesn't play well for the voters.


You mean the way Obama opposed gay marriage in 2008?



That is as apples and oranges as it gets! Two completely different topics. Healthcare is life and death necessity, gay marriage isn't. I can easily see how someone would change their mind over something social like gay marriage. I can not for the life of me know how someone whose core convictions included supporting and pushing Romneycare/Obamacare and who proclaimed it was the model for the entire country could change their mind about that in a mere 4 years. IMO Romney is as phony as a 3 dollar bill and will say whatever the crowd in front of him at any given time want to hear. He stands for nothing!!!


I agree that Obama has very clear views on everything. He just has no qualms about lying about them when expedient to do so. Gay marriage being one prominent example. Does anyone seriously believe he opposed gay marriage in 2008?


I'm not sure if he did or didn't, but he certainly didn't do anything in office to form policy allowing gay marriage. He didn't write or sign into law during his first term any laws allowing gay marriage. In other words, he didn't say one thing and then legislate in a different manner. I'd call that keeping his word.


He said he was against it when he really wasn't. Some call that hypocrisy, at least when it's a Republican. I call it being a politician. They all do it. Over and over again.



No they do not. Not in my opinion. They almost all flip on one or two fringe issues but not on their core convictions, the very thoughts and ideas that make someone who they are, convictions that everybody have. The things we won't budge on philosophically. Romney has no core issue convictions. He constantly flips and panders to whatever crowd he is talking to. He is core less and believes in nothing and in everything at the same time. He, like McCain before him completely changes themselves and flipped on almost every major issue in order to get nominated. Well, he got his nomination and now he has to explain why he has no core convictions and why someone can go to youtube and find Romney in completely conflicting statements about just about every issue, at least a half dozen big ones. He sold his soul to get nominated and now he will if elected have to live with himself governing against many of his true convictions and beliefs. Hope he sleeps well at night.

More phony than a 3 dollar bill!!!


In my opinion when it comes to his core convictions on the best way to help restore economic prosperity he has been and will be consistent. That is all that matters to me at this point. I am not a huge fan of his but he meets my minimum threshold to replace the current president by a country mile.



To me Romney's election would be the equivalent to electing W again and the same problems will follow paving the way for Hilary in 2016. I think the Republicans have doomed themselves with this candidate who most of them don't even like. Next four years are either gonna be horrible Romney policies both domestic and foreign or four more years of Congressional obstruction and whichever party that win in November will be the ones to take credit for it. I bet my bottom dollar that there are Republicans behind the scenes hoping Obama wins so they can sand bag him for another four years, nothing gets done, and Obama gets blamed for it and they can then retake the White House. If Romney wins they get it back only for four years. That is how I see it.

 

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  posted on 8/1/2012 at 04:13 PM
In my opinion when it comes to his core convictions on the best way to help restore economic prosperity he has been and will be consistent. That is all that matters to me at this point. I am not a huge fan of his but he meets my minimum threshold to replace the current president by a country mile.

I believe with all my heart Romney will further rape the country for profits and we will be much worse off if he's elected.

 

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In my opinion when it comes to his core convictions on the best way to help restore economic prosperity he has been and will be consistent. That is all that matters to me at this point. I am not a huge fan of his but he meets my minimum threshold to replace the current president by a country mile.


That's just it. His only consistent core convictions to date are Corporations are people, we should bomb Iran and start another war, we should repeal the very same healthcare system he introduced in Massachusetts when he was governor, we should revert back to the Bush policies that almost crashed the world financial system, we should let companies rape the earth. Venture capitalism and profit for a few at the expense of hundreds and thousands of jobs for many is good. Donating millions to the Mormon religion is a charity donation. He believes in trickle down economics even though no other western modernized country even acknowledges it as a viable or remotely workable economic plan to base an economy on. He also thinks the middle class and poor should pay more in taxes while the rich get big tax breaks. I see nothing good in any of his so called "core convictions" What am I missing?

[Edited on 8/2/2012 by Peachypetewi]

 

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