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  posted on 8/30/2012 at 10:22 PM
I thoght is was pretty good. Better than how he has come across up till now.

 

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  posted on 8/30/2012 at 10:26 PM
I just couldn't watch. It's difficult to pay attention to what someone's saying when you're picturing them in 'magic' underwear.

 

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  posted on 8/30/2012 at 11:10 PM
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I thoght is was pretty good. Better than how he has come across up till now.


I thought the speech was pretty good as well......

 

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  posted on 8/30/2012 at 11:12 PM
Solid for what it was. No surprises. Did it change voter's minds? Time will tell.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 12:09 AM
As I watched it, I thought it was ok. Upon reflection, I thought it was missing the same kind of specifics that have left me questioning Mitt all along.

Where were there details about simplifying taxes? How about some examples of how business will be aided so that jobs can be created? What parts of a big, burdensome govt that we can no longer afford do you plan to cut? How will you return personal liberties to individual Americans? Where was the honest straight talk about our predicament and the bold path to avoid collapse?

A large part of this is just modern American politics. The other side will wallow even more deeply in generalities and emotional appeal. But I was hoping for a sharper contrast.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 12:54 AM
Fuj, I am glad you like to think.
That is nice. I used to think about the issues and candidates.

Good points there, but those are not important.

Most people don't think about THE ISSUES.

My opinion...Obama, I think he will be graded as a C+ PofTUSA. He handled the Bin Laden situation correctly, kept some peace, foreign countries like the USA, did not change too much in USA, things pretty much the same, did not pass too many things, bad economy which was bad 4 years , he did not bring it up.

Obabam had bad timing of coming after 8 year PofTUSA like Bush 1 did. I predict Romney will win. Stay in for 8 years. One more Republican PofTUSA after Romney's 8 years-2 terms, and then you will see another Democractic PofTUS like Bill Clinton. It is going to be 12 yers of republican PofTUSA.
These things go in cycles.

I do not see change , compromise, balance in power in this country during my lifetime.


I am finished commenting here about politics.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 07:30 AM
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As I watched it, I thought it was ok. Upon reflection, I thought it was missing the same kind of specifics that have left me questioning Mitt all along.

Where were there details about simplifying taxes? How about some examples of how business will be aided so that jobs can be created? What parts of a big, burdensome govt that we can no longer afford do you plan to cut? How will you return personal liberties to individual Americans? Where was the honest straight talk about our predicament and the bold path to avoid collapse?

A large part of this is just modern American politics. The other side will wallow even more deeply in generalities and emotional appeal. But I was hoping for a sharper contrast.


I felt the exact same way.....It was sorely lacking in any specifics. I get the theatrics of the entire thing, but it's become one big joke. And the Democratic convention will be exactly the same if not worse.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 08:35 AM

If Mitt could distance himself from the rabid neocons who want to invade the entire Middle East region (listen to John McCains weds. speech) and the meddling social issue wingnuts waving vaginal ultrasound wands and bibles and just focus on overhauling the management of our current government he will be just fine.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 09:06 AM
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If Mitt could distance himself from the rabid neocons who want to invade the entire Middle East region (listen to John McCains weds. speech) and the meddling social issue wingnuts waving vaginal ultrasound wands and bibles and just focus on overhauling the management of our current government he will be just fine.




Repeat. Good post.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 09:28 AM
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If Mitt could distance himself from the rabid neocons who want to invade the entire Middle East region (listen to John McCains weds. speech) and the meddling social issue wingnuts waving vaginal ultrasound wands and bibles and just focus on overhauling the management of our current government he will be just fine.




You could be right with this observation. But my problem is he's not offering any specifics on exactly how he'll overhaul the management of our current gov't. He's not doing it on the campaign trail and he certainly didn't do it in his speech. Both sides seem content to merely bitch about the other candidate and never get into real policy ideas. And the damn media is out to lunch as well and seem to me to just want to make the whole thing "news as entertainment" for lack of a better term. They never ask probing questions of either side.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 10:31 AM
Who expects a lot of specifics in a convention speech?
 

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Who expects a lot of specifics in a convention speech?


I do for one. Plenty of other candidates have used the opportunity to do so. And my above rant is not exclusive to the convention and is in reference to the campaign thus far as well.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 10:42 AM
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Who expects a lot of specifics in a convention speech?


I do for one. Plenty of other candidates have used the opportunity to do so. And my above rant is not exclusive to the convention and is in reference to the campaign thus far as well.


Was "hope and change" specific enough for you?

 

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Who expects a lot of specifics in a convention speech?


I do for one. Plenty of other candidates have used the opportunity to do so. And my above rant is not exclusive to the convention and is in reference to the campaign thus far as well.


Was "hope and change" specific enough for you?


Who expects a lot of specifics in a convention speech?

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:05 AM
He did outline a 5 point plan for adding 12 million jobs. I would not expect him to go into great detail on each point during that speech, but he goes into greater detail on his website about each issue.
 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:06 AM
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Who expects a lot of specifics in a convention speech?


I do for one. Plenty of other candidates have used the opportunity to do so. And my above rant is not exclusive to the convention and is in reference to the campaign thus far as well.


Was "hope and change" specific enough for you?


Not at all. Which is why I stated my being critical of both campaigns and their lack of details. I also suggested in my previous post that the Democratic Convention will be just as limited in details. Reading Comprehension is a very important component to critical thinking.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:08 AM
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Who expects a lot of specifics in a convention speech?


I do for one. Plenty of other candidates have used the opportunity to do so. And my above rant is not exclusive to the convention and is in reference to the campaign thus far as well.


Was "hope and change" specific enough for you?


Not at all. Which is why I stated my being critical of both campaigns and their lack of details. I also suggested in my previous post that the Democratic Convention will be just as limited in details. Reading Comprehension is a very important component to critical thinking.


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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:25 AM
As far as grading the speeches, my favorites are Artur Davis and Condi Rice.
 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:26 AM

just read this today i do not keep up on supreme court Justices but I guess i should.....


HERE'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER:

Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election.

If Mitt wins the nomination, I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who have hesitation on that score, I'd just ask you to keep four things in mind:

1.. Justice Scalia just turned 78
2.. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year
3.. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August
4.. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago.

In addition,

* Justice Ginsburg has Pancreatic Cancer.

* Justice Stephens has already said he would retire and is just waiting for Obama to be reelected.

The next president could appoint as many as 4 new Justices over next 8 years. This election is about more than ObamaCare Tax.

We wish them all well, of course, but the brute fact is that whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one new member of the Supreme Court, in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.

If you don't think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you're smokin' something funky.


So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn't get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win, imagine this:

SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER?

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:30 AM
Valid points on the SCOTUS, indeed. I don't think Holder would have any shot at making it through the Senate process.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:33 AM
That's what they said about the "wise Latina"
 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:46 AM
Called up my Dad yesterday (who also lives here in Mass., where Romney was Guv) and asked if he was going to watch Mitten's speech.....His answer was, "I'd rather watch the paint dry."

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 12:53 PM
I don't watch convention speeches because usually they're just to fire up the base. I know who I'm going to vote for so it's not going to make any difference what any of them say. Would be nice, though, if what they said was true....Paul Ryan just out and out lied during his. Glad I missed it.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 10:14 PM
How do you know he lied if you didn't listen to the speech?
 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:38 PM
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As I watched it, I thought it was ok. Upon reflection, I thought it was missing the same kind of specifics that have left me questioning Mitt all along.

Where were there details about simplifying taxes? How about some examples of how business will be aided so that jobs can be created? What parts of a big, burdensome govt that we can no longer afford do you plan to cut? How will you return personal liberties to individual Americans? Where was the honest straight talk about our predicament and the bold path to avoid collapse?

A large part of this is just modern American politics. The other side will wallow even more deeply in generalities and emotional appeal. But I was hoping for a sharper contrast.


Exactly how I felt. Too many generalities and no details about anything. Just a fluff piece and bashing of Obama even throwing in another birther comment when he said we need an American to fix things. With all of the fact checking over the last few days I hope people are paying attention. Let's see if the Democrats bull$hit, fabricate, mislead and exagerate as much as the Republicans did over the last few days. The only speeches I found not to be littered with BS were the one by Romney's wife which was cheesy and the one by Christie which was an I love myself, look what I did in Jersey introduce myself for the 2016 run speech. The rest of it was a bunch of fluff and many of the facts were skewed or completely false. Let's see how the Dems do with the bipartisan fact checkers this week.

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