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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 08:57 AM
A simple yet fun speech tongue in cheek yet pretty much to the point... I enjoyed his take on the way the country is going and i agree maybe it is time to try something else someone with some business experience and someone with a strong VP candidate.... I have grown up watching Clint from rawhide to dirty harry, man we are all gettin old.....
 
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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 09:13 AM
I thought the image of him talking to an empty chair was, well, weird.

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 09:21 AM
I didn't see Clint's speech but I did hear it was a bit bizarre and that he went on some sort of rant. For those who saw it, was this the case?
 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 09:28 AM
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiHNVYRTKP8

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 09:37 AM
I guess this puts to rest the assumption Clint was in the tank for Obama when he did that Chrysler commercial.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 09:57 AM
The greatest negotiator I ever, was when Josey Wales made peace with Ten Bears.



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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 10:31 AM
Obama reminds me of the young gun in uUforgiven who was all talk and bluster but when push came to shove he didnt have the stomach for the job. I hope Mitt does.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:39 AM
Mitt Romney is a team builder and a problem solver.
 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:43 AM
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Mitt Romney is a team builder and a problem solver.


Those of us here in Massachusetts who had to endure his spectacular failure as Governor know better.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:49 AM
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Mitt Romney is a team builder and a problem solver.


Team builder? Team with who?

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:51 AM
Can you expand on how he failed as Governor? Just wondering because all I have heard are good things. Except maybe for Romneycare.
 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 01:26 PM
thought Clint's speech was good.A little bizzare at times,kinda funny at times,as well as to the point at times.
One has to agree with the aspect of you hired someone they didnt do the job,you fire them,,,
Obama hasn't really done anything,to help get us back on track.Not sure Romney can either,

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 01:31 PM
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thought Clint's speech was good.A little bizzare at times,kinda funny at times,as well as to the point at times.
One has to agree with the aspect of you hired someone they didnt do the job,you fire them,,,
Obama hasn't really done anything,to help get us back on track.Not sure Romney can either,


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But I would add just IMO someone else should take a swing at it now rather than 4 years down the road.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 02:19 PM
I think Clint should stick to writing and or directing as many movies as he can before he goes completely nuts because he looked senile last night.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 02:58 PM
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Can you expand on how he failed as Governor? Just wondering because all I have heard are good things. Except maybe for Romneycare.



1. Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor. The state’s total job growth was just 0.9 percent, well behind other high-wage, high-skill economies in New York (2.7), California (4.7), and North Carolina (7.6). The national average, meanwhile, was better than 5 percent.

2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor. The US Census Bureau estimated that between July 2002 and July 2006, 222,000 more residents left Massachusetts for other states than came to it. That decline largely explains the state’s decreasing unemployment rate (from 5.6 to 4.7 percent) while Romney was in office, according to Northeastern University economics professor Andrew Sum. At the same time, the nation as a whole added 8 million people to the labor force.

3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office, according to Sum. The loss was double the rate that the nation as a whole lost manufacturing jobs. In 2004, Romney vetoed legislation that would have banned companies doing business with the state from outsourcing jobs to other countries.

4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”: “There was not one measure where the state did well under his term in office. We were below average and often near the bottom,” Sum told the Washington Post in February. As a result, the state was more comparable to Rust Belt states like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio than it was to other high-tech economies it typically competes with.

5. Piled on more debt than any other state: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the highest of any state in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal income. Romney regularly omits those statistics from his Massachusetts record, instead touting the fact that he balanced the state’s budget (he was constitutionally required to do so). He wouldn’t be much different as president: his proposed tax plan adds more than $10 trillion to the national debt.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/04/494282/5-facts-about-the-massac husetts-economy-under-mitt-romney/?mobile=nc

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 03:08 PM
I've always like Eastwood's work as an actor and director. I thought he made some good points about emotions when Obama was elected and the state of the current job situation.
 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 05:20 PM
As some here know, I'm right of the middle but not way right. I thought the speech was okay for about a minute. Then it became much more disrespectful of the President than it needed to be. Making believe the President is telling people to 'F' off was not needed and took away from the points Clint was trying to make. I liked the 'You're Fired' bit towards the end though.

Just my two cents, take it for what you want.


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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 05:22 PM
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Can you expand on how he failed as Governor? Just wondering because all I have heard are good things. Except maybe for Romneycare.



1. Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor. The state’s total job growth was just 0.9 percent, well behind other high-wage, high-skill economies in New York (2.7), California (4.7), and North Carolina (7.6). The national average, meanwhile, was better than 5 percent.

2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor. The US Census Bureau estimated that between July 2002 and July 2006, 222,000 more residents left Massachusetts for other states than came to it. That decline largely explains the state’s decreasing unemployment rate (from 5.6 to 4.7 percent) while Romney was in office, according to Northeastern University economics professor Andrew Sum. At the same time, the nation as a whole added 8 million people to the labor force.

3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office, according to Sum. The loss was double the rate that the nation as a whole lost manufacturing jobs. In 2004, Romney vetoed legislation that would have banned companies doing business with the state from outsourcing jobs to other countries.

4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”: “There was not one measure where the state did well under his term in office. We were below average and often near the bottom,” Sum told the Washington Post in February. As a result, the state was more comparable to Rust Belt states like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio than it was to other high-tech economies it typically competes with.

5. Piled on more debt than any other state: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the highest of any state in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal income. Romney regularly omits those statistics from his Massachusetts record, instead touting the fact that he balanced the state’s budget (he was constitutionally required to do so). He wouldn’t be much different as president: his proposed tax plan adds more than $10 trillion to the national debt.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/04/494282/5-facts-about-the-massac husetts-economy-under-mitt-romney/?mobile=nc



Obama Twists Romney’s Economic Record
Obama campaign ad takes aim at Romney's time as Massachusetts governor

Summary

A new ad from the Obama campaign takes aim at Mitt Romney’s performance as governor of Massachusetts, claiming he had “one of the worst economic records in the country.” But the ad overreaches with several of its claims.

The ad states that job creation in Massachusetts “fell” to 47th under Romney. That’s a bit misleading. Massachusetts’ state ranking for job growth went from 50th the year before he took office, to 28th in his final year. It was 47th for the whole of his four-year tenure, but it was improving, not declining, when he left.

The ad’s claim that Romney “cut taxes for millionaires” isn’t as black-and-white as billed. Romney opposed a plan to impose a capital gains tax retroactively, insisting on delaying the hike eight months. That’s different than pushing for a tax cut.

The ad claims that Romney raised taxes on the middle class. It’s true that Romney imposed a number of fees, but none of them targeted middle-income persons. Also, Romney proposed cutting the state income tax three times — a measure that would have resulted in tax cuts for all taxpayers — but he was rebuffed every time by the state’s Democratic Legislature.

The ad claims Romney “left the state $2.6 billion deeper in debt.” It’s true that long-term bond debt — used for capital improvements — rose under Romney, as it had in the years before he took office. But Romney wasn’t piling up yearly deficits to support operating expenses the way the federal government is, because Massachusetts requires balanced budgets.

The ad claims that when Romney was governor, “Massachusetts lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs, a rate twice the national average.” That’s close to true, but the state lost a greater number of manufacturing jobs in the four years before Romney took office, and more in the four years after he left. In fact, the rate of job loss in manufacturing slowed during Romney’s time as governor.

The ad claims Romney “outsourced call center jobs to India.” Not exactly. What he did was veto a measure that would have prevented the state from doing business with a state contractor that was locating state customer-service calls in India. Democrats who controlled the Legislature could have overridden the veto, but didn’t. The veto was supported by leading newspapers as a savings to taxpayers.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obama-twists-romneys-economic-record/

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 05:50 PM
So sad to see the old geezer losing it right before our very eyes. He makes a Superbowl commercial where he gives a speech about how bailing out GM and saving Detroit is the right thing to do,, then he turns around and supports the home town guy who told Detroit and GM to F-off and stuck a knife in their back. He's either a world class hypocrite or the commercial he shot for GM was simply for the money. Any way you look at it he's a confused old fool.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 06:15 PM
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Can you expand on how he failed as Governor? Just wondering because all I have heard are good things. Except maybe for Romneycare.



1. Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor. The state’s total job growth was just 0.9 percent, well behind other high-wage, high-skill economies in New York (2.7), California (4.7), and North Carolina (7.6). The national average, meanwhile, was better than 5 percent.

2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor. The US Census Bureau estimated that between July 2002 and July 2006, 222,000 more residents left Massachusetts for other states than came to it. That decline largely explains the state’s decreasing unemployment rate (from 5.6 to 4.7 percent) while Romney was in office, according to Northeastern University economics professor Andrew Sum. At the same time, the nation as a whole added 8 million people to the labor force.

3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office, according to Sum. The loss was double the rate that the nation as a whole lost manufacturing jobs. In 2004, Romney vetoed legislation that would have banned companies doing business with the state from outsourcing jobs to other countries.

4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”: “There was not one measure where the state did well under his term in office. We were below average and often near the bottom,” Sum told the Washington Post in February. As a result, the state was more comparable to Rust Belt states like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio than it was to other high-tech economies it typically competes with.

5. Piled on more debt than any other state: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the highest of any state in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal income. Romney regularly omits those statistics from his Massachusetts record, instead touting the fact that he balanced the state’s budget (he was constitutionally required to do so). He wouldn’t be much different as president: his proposed tax plan adds more than $10 trillion to the national debt.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/04/494282/5-facts-about-the-massac husetts-economy-under-mitt-romney/?mobile=nc




That list is completely on target and accurate. That's how those of us in Massachusetts remember him. I would also add that Mittens was out-of-state during almost half of his tenure here, so you know for sure that he was merely using the Mass. Guv position as a stepping stone to achieve greater political "aspirations(?)." We here in Mass. would've been better off if his opponent, State Treasurer Shannon O'Brien, had beaten him in the election.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 06:58 PM
Just going to post one more example from a second source that came to the same conclusion as Fact Check. I mean after all it takes more time to actually research it than it will take for it to be dismissed....

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Obama’s ad charges that "Romney outsourced call center jobs to India."


A small but important detail: the state didn’t outsource the work -- a state contractor did.

The GAO report looking at all states’ outsourcing found that 43 states had some form of outsourcing at work, so Massachusetts was not unique. The Bay State also had offshore contracts through its child support enforcement and unemployment insurance programs in 2005, the GAO said.


The Obama campaign's wording suggests a broader, more deliberate policy when the state was sending some work overseas. But in choosing to veto the bill, Romney let the arrangement continue. The statement leaves out important information. We rate it Half True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/11/barack-obama /obama-ad-says-romney-outsourced-massachusetts-jobs/;



Good thing we have tools such as Fact check and PolitiFact in lieu of relying on peoples memories.........

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:47 PM
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Good thing we have tools such as Fact check and PolitiFact in lieu of relying on peoples memories.........
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You are right and they have been having a field day with almost every GOP speech at the convention finding many statements either false or exagerated. I agree that this is a good thing. Let's see if the Democrats bull$hit as much this week as the Republicans did this last week. I only wish they had fact checkers live on site for the debates to hold the candidates feet to the fire right on the spot for all to see.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2012 at 11:56 PM
No one has to wait till next week, both sites are full of examples of Obama and progressives bullshait. The problem is, is your either too blind to see it or willingly excuse it...... My money is on the latter




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  posted on 9/1/2012 at 01:41 AM
Oh wow....Gregg wouldn't like to hear that he's only 9 years younger than Clint. Eastwood was born in 1930...Gregg in 1947 if I remember correctly. Sorry, that just cracks me up!

 

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  posted on 9/1/2012 at 05:56 AM
I thought it was kinda of entertaining!!

 

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