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  posted on 6/18/2013 at 12:37 PM
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My personal opinion is that these dogs have NO business being allowed to live in residential areas. And it irks me when I hear their owners state what loving, great pets they are. I posted this on Facebook and right away I had a response from a pit bull defender who happens to be my niece. But then, another response from a FORMER pit bull owner who is a former co-worker of mine. I'm interested in feedback from Peachheads on this.

 

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  posted on 6/18/2013 at 12:39 PM
From my niece:

"The breed is loyal to its owner. It's not always the dogs fault. It's the responsibility of the owner to train the dog to adapt to a domestic life rather than to keep it as a guard dog to be viscous. Take it from a certified animal behaviorist, who helps train and problem solve these misunderstood animals."

My response:

"I've heard plenty of justifications just like yours after a pit bull death, Bethany. Well then, is it a LAW that pit bull owners be responsible pit bull owners? Is it a law that a pit bull owner must put their dog through vigorous training before it is a part of society? If these dogs are this dangerous, in my opinion they should NOT be allowed to live in residential areas. Try telling the parents of this 6 year old boy that it's not the dog's fault. I submit that police departments have other things to do than insure that a pit bull is a safe pet.



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Here's what my former co-worker said:

"We rescued 4 6 week old pitbulls in 2004. Wefound homes for 2. are still great dogs/no trouble) We kept two. My husband still has his dog. He calls her the pussy pitbull. The cat bosses her around. She is around my horse, our cats, dogs, chickens without any trouble. We took our pits to training classes and always reinforced their training. Unfortunately I had to have my pit put down. She turned out to be agressive with other dogs and I could not have that around my grandkids OR my other animals. These dogs were bred to fight. It is in their nature. Having witnessed fights I can only say that they are horrific, VERY hard to break-up and scary as hell. We raised our two the same way, with rules, us as the bosses and with love and affection. Having said that I would NEVER get another one. You cannot trust them no matter how long you have them."

 

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  posted on 6/18/2013 at 12:45 PM
I agree Rob...

 

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I know too many bad stories about pits...

 

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Its the one breed that will make me sh*t my pant if they come running and worse in groups with no owner around. You have to hold your ground and look for something to beat them off if yelling doesnt work.

 

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I know pit bulls have a horrible reputation and some of that I think has to do with how they've been bred as fighters. I hate dog fighting and I honestly feel sorry for these poor dogs who really don't have much of a chance. It would be difficult for me to try to rehab a pit bull who was a fighter. That being said, I know some pits who are absolutely wonderful animals because they were raised with love and kindness. I respect the boundries of all pit bulls as I do rotweilers and any other dog who has a reputation for being protective guard dogs. One of the most gentle dogs I ever had was a German shepherd but he'd rip the throat out of anyone who tried to mess with me and my kids. I didn't teach him that, it's just the way he was. Which brings me to the point....some animals are just plain agressive and if a person has a pit, or any other dog, that begins to show agression, they need to be euthanized for their own sake if not for everyone elses.

 

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Agreed Rob. And unfortunately, my take is that owning a Pit Bull is similar to wearing a Rolex, or driving an unusual car, kind of like an "Oh yeah?... My dog is bad ass and so am I" kind of statement. I believe here in California, the owner of this breed is held 100% responsible for the actions of his/her dog

I constantly hear people shouting about background checks for guns. Imho, that howling at the moon should include this breed of dog as well.

 

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I really want my pet to be just a pet. I don't want it protecting me or fighting. I want it to greet my friends and my family with love. I never want anyone to feel threatened in the company of my pets. I am their Stuart in life to guide them through their life and to be there for them. To make sure they live a good life. To give and receive unconditional love.

It seems the majority of those who own guard pets live in fear and need something else to show a defense against what scares them in the world.

Other wise known as "Little penis syndrome"....opps did I say that

 

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  posted on 6/18/2013 at 04:51 PM
this reminds me of the gun control debate.
 

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It seems the majority of those who own guard pets live in fear and need something else to show a defense against what scares them in the world.

Other wise known as "Little penis syndrome"....opps did I say that


Actually I think that's very appropo, Ron. And I've held off getting a pit bull myself despite the fact that I've got a four inch penis.

 

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this reminds me of the gun control debate.


Pit Bulls should be confiscated and owning them for any reason should be illegal.

[Edited on 6/19/2013 by lovelead]

 

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It seems the majority of those who own guard pets live in fear and need something else to show a defense against what scares them in the world.

Other wise known as "Little penis syndrome"....opps did I say that


Actually I think that's very appropo, Ron. And I've held off getting a pit bull myself despite the fact that I've got a four inch penis.


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Personally I think calling Pit Bulls vicious over a few selected attacks is a bunch of bull$hit plain and simple. I have been around many, many pit bulls and they are among the friendliest dogs I have ever been around. Not all of them are friendly towards other animals but the majority are. The only pit bulls I ever encountered that scared me were owned by a$$holes who thought they were macho by teaching their dogs to be aggressive. There are many, many other breeds that would be just as nasty and aggressive if they were trained to be. So if you are gonna try to demonize a whole breed of dog for what a very small percentage of them do when they are trained wrong than you better point your finger at some other breeds. I had a pit bull, rottwiller mix and an American Bulldog who everyone thought was a pit bull and our cat would walk underneith both dogs to pet herself with their stomachs and never once did they even attempt to go after the cat. On the other hand we had to get rid of a golden retreiver we had because it wouldn't stop nipping at and trying to bite people even after training. Their are many other breeds that I would consider to be much more dangerous than pit bulls. Before anyone makes stupid assumptions they should at least do some homework and go spend some time around the breed. I bet my b@lls you would be shocked at what you would find out about pit bulls and how loving and playful they are. Anyone who says any different has no experience with these dogs whatsoever.

 

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Pit Bulls should be confiscated and owning them for any reason should be illegal.




Your computer should be confiscated troll boy.


Pit bulls are the "dangerous breed" of the 2000's.

We saw it with Dobermans, German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and on and on.

Given that there are something like 19 different breeds that fall into the "pit bull" category, who decides which type is "ok" and which is "dangerous"?

As a delivery person I've been bit numerous times over 20 years.

The most offending dog?

Dachshunds.

Labs & Golden Retrievers aren't so friendly either.

The pit my daughter found abandoned as a 5 week old puppy is one of the most loving animals I've ever been around.



 

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Personally I think calling Pit Bulls vicious over a few selected attacks is a bunch of bull$hit plain and simple. I have been around many, many pit bulls and they are among the friendliest dogs I have ever been around. Not all of them are friendly towards other animals but the majority are. The only pit bulls I ever encountered that scared me were owned by a$$holes who thought they were macho by teaching their dogs to be aggressive. There are many, many other breeds that would be just as nasty and aggressive if they were trained to be. So if you are gonna try to demonize a whole breed of dog for what a very small percentage of them do when they are trained wrong than you better point your finger at some other breeds. I had a pit bull, rottwiller mix and an American Bulldog who everyone thought was a pit bull and our cat would walk underneith both dogs to pet herself with their stomachs and never once did they even attempt to go after the cat. On the other hand we had to get rid of a golden retreiver we had because it wouldn't stop nipping at and trying to bite people even after training. Their are many other breeds that I would consider to be much more dangerous than pit bulls. Before anyone makes stupid assumptions they should at least do some homework and go spend some time around the breed. I bet my b@lls you would be shocked at what you would find out about pit bulls and how loving and playful they are. Anyone who says any different has no experience with these dogs whatsoever.



Then why, every year, do I read about a pit bull killing a young child? I don't remember newspaper articles about rottweilers or labs or golden retrievers chomping little kids to death. Are you saying it happens, but the newspapers only report the pit bull deaths? I do not believe that. It happens with pit bulls over and over again. And pit bull lovers ALWAYS say the same thing that you just did: They are loving and playful. Maybe they are; until an innocent unsuspecting little boy climbs on top of the wrong pit bull. Did you read the article I posted? Are you telling me that animal is "loving and playful"? Loving and playful enough to chomp a six year old boy to death who didn't know enough not to climb on top of it? The same dog that didn't possess the instincts that a harmless little boy was only playing and instead reacted viciously and violently? THAT "loving and playful" dog? And how do you explain this comment earlier in this thread that I copied from my friend Chloe on Facebook?
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We rescued 4 6 week old pitbulls in 2004. Wefound homes for 2. are still great dogs/no trouble) We kept two. My husband still has his dog. He calls her the pussy pitbull. The cat bosses her around. She is around my horse, our cats, dogs, chickens without any trouble. We took our pits to training classes and always reinforced their training. Unfortunately I had to have my pit put down. She turned out to be agressive with other dogs and I could not have that around my grandkids OR my other animals. These dogs were bred to fight. It is in their nature. Having witnessed fights I can only say that they are horrific, VERY hard to break-up and scary as hell. We raised our two the same way, with rules, us as the bosses and with love and affection. Having said that I would NEVER get another one. You cannot trust them no matter how long you have them.


One more question: After reading my posted article here and also the above quote from Chloe, can you honestly tell me that you would feel comfortable fixing dinner while your own young child was in the backyard alone with your pit bull? If so, I think you either are, or would be, an extremely irresponsible and unloving parent.

[Edited on 6/19/2013 by robslob]

 

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Just a few years ago in San Francisco a family "pet" mauled a six year old to death. Up till that time the dog had shown no violent behavior. Labs and Goldens "fear" bite especially if they were abused as pups. I've owned nothing but labs and Goldens and never had anyone get bitten. had a lot of people licked, jumped on...annoyed....Goldens can be annoying but it's about "hey lets have fun" They are not aggressive by nature at all in fact the have what is termed a soft bite or soft mouth. Breed into all hunting breeds so they don't damage the game birds. They are also the #1 pet used for blind and assistant living.

Please some post an article about a golden mauling a kid to death....maybe sitting on it trying to get petted or licked to death...

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My step sons yellow lab was quite aggressive, and attacked his neice, who was 11 years old.

 

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Personally I think calling Pit Bulls vicious over a few selected attacks is a bunch of bull$hit plain and simple. I have been around many, many pit bulls and they are among the friendliest dogs I have ever been around. Not all of them are friendly towards other animals but the majority are. The only pit bulls I ever encountered that scared me were owned by a$$holes who thought they were macho by teaching their dogs to be aggressive. There are many, many other breeds that would be just as nasty and aggressive if they were trained to be. So if you are gonna try to demonize a whole breed of dog for what a very small percentage of them do when they are trained wrong than you better point your finger at some other breeds. I had a pit bull, rottwiller mix and an American Bulldog who everyone thought was a pit bull and our cat would walk underneith both dogs to pet herself with their stomachs and never once did they even attempt to go after the cat. On the other hand we had to get rid of a golden retreiver we had because it wouldn't stop nipping at and trying to bite people even after training. Their are many other breeds that I would consider to be much more dangerous than pit bulls. Before anyone makes stupid assumptions they should at least do some homework and go spend some time around the breed. I bet my b@lls you would be shocked at what you would find out about pit bulls and how loving and playful they are. Anyone who says any different has no experience with these dogs whatsoever.


Stats for dog attacks by breed:

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf

another source:

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Dog+attack+stats+with+breed+2012.pdf

 

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Pit Bulls should be confiscated and owning them for any reason should be illegal.




Your computer should be confiscated troll boy.


Pit bulls are the "dangerous breed" of the 2000's.

We saw it with Dobermans, German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and on and on.

Given that there are something like 19 different breeds that fall into the "pit bull" category, who decides which type is "ok" and which is "dangerous"?

As a delivery person I've been bit numerous times over 20 years.

The most offending dog?

Dachshunds.

Labs & Golden Retrievers aren't so friendly either.

The pit my daughter found abandoned as a 5 week old puppy is one of the most loving animals I've ever been around.







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Stats for dog attacks by breed:

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf

another source:

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Dog+attack+stats+with+breed+2012.pdf



It's all there if you care to read it. Pit bulls lead the statistics by FAR in both articles. From the second article:

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"Any law strong enough and directed enough to prevent the majority of lifethreatening
dog attacks must discriminate heavily against pit bulls, Rottweilers, wolf
hybrids, and perhaps Akitas and chows, who are not common breeds but do seem to be
involved in disproportionate numbers of life-threatening attacks. Such discrimination
will never be popular with the owners of these breeds, especially those who believe their
dogs are neither dangerous nor likely to turn dangerous without strong provocation.
Neither will breed discrimination ever be acceptable to those who hold out for an
interpretation of animal rights philosophy which holds that all breeds are created equal.
One might hope that educating the public against the acquisition of dangerous dogs
would help; but the very traits that make certain breeds dangerous also appeal to a
certain class of dog owner. Thus publicizing their potentially hazardous nature has
tended to increase these breedsí popularity."



Publicizing their potentially hazardous nature has tended to increase these breeds' popularity? Maybe what we need is psychoanalysis for pit bull owners, then!

[Edited on 6/19/2013 by robslob]

 

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That's a tough one rob. Ultimately it gets down to respsonsible pet ownership. Personally, I don't care for pits because they're ugly looking.

 

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Stats for dog attacks by breed:

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf

another source:

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Dog+attack+stats+with+breed+2012.pdf



It's all there if you care to read it. Pit bulls lead the statistics by FAR in both articles. From the second article:

quote:

"Any law strong enough and directed enough to prevent the majority of lifethreatening
dog attacks must discriminate heavily against pit bulls, Rottweilers, wolf
hybrids, and perhaps Akitas and chows, who are not common breeds but do seem to be
involved in disproportionate numbers of life-threatening attacks. Such discrimination
will never be popular with the owners of these breeds, especially those who believe their
dogs are neither dangerous nor likely to turn dangerous without strong provocation.
Neither will breed discrimination ever be acceptable to those who hold out for an
interpretation of animal rights philosophy which holds that all breeds are created equal.
One might hope that educating the public against the acquisition of dangerous dogs
would help; but the very traits that make certain breeds dangerous also appeal to a
certain class of dog owner. Thus publicizing their potentially hazardous nature has
tended to increase these breedsí popularity."



Publicizing their potentially hazardous nature has tended to increase these breeds' popularity? Maybe what we need is psychoanalysis for pit bull owners, then!

[Edited on 6/19/2013 by robslob]



There is a simple answer to that. More pit bulls are owned by @ssholes in urban areas who have to try to act macho by having vicious looking and acting dogs so they abuse these dogs and train them to be aggressive. If the dogs weren't trained to be nasty and aggressive they wouldn't be nasty and aggressive. If you took an equal amount of ANY breed of dog and trained them to fight eachother or to be aggressive towards people or other animals then they will be nasty and aggressive dogs as well. It is totally the owner and not the breed. It is the owner, not the dog. I have been around a lot of these so called dangerous dogs over the years and have yet to ever come close to getting bit by any of them. Until someone can prove to me that pit bulls are naturally aggressive which I know is un provable I will continue to defend the breed and if I ever get my backyard properly fenced in again I plan on rescueing at least one if not two pit bulls. It has now been almost 7 years since my last dog, a beautiful American Bulldog that everyone thought was a Pit Bull had to be put down and I am more than ready to have a dog or dogs in my life again. The only breeds that interest me are pit bulls and american bulldogs.

And I hope whoever started this thread feels the same way about gun ownership and that all guns should be outlawed because a whole heck of a lot more people die at the end of a gun than the tiny fraction that die from pit bull attacks. By your logic all guns should be outlawed because so many people die from being shot every single day in this country.

 

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Stats for dog attacks by breed:

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf

another source:

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Dog+attack+stats+with+breed+2012.pdf



It's all there if you care to read it. Pit bulls lead the statistics by FAR in both articles. From the second article:

quote:

"Any law strong enough and directed enough to prevent the majority of lifethreatening
dog attacks must discriminate heavily against pit bulls, Rottweilers, wolf
hybrids, and perhaps Akitas and chows, who are not common breeds but do seem to be
involved in disproportionate numbers of life-threatening attacks. Such discrimination
will never be popular with the owners of these breeds, especially those who believe their
dogs are neither dangerous nor likely to turn dangerous without strong provocation.
Neither will breed discrimination ever be acceptable to those who hold out for an
interpretation of animal rights philosophy which holds that all breeds are created equal.
One might hope that educating the public against the acquisition of dangerous dogs
would help; but the very traits that make certain breeds dangerous also appeal to a
certain class of dog owner. Thus publicizing their potentially hazardous nature has
tended to increase these breedsí popularity."



Publicizing their potentially hazardous nature has tended to increase these breeds' popularity? Maybe what we need is psychoanalysis for pit bull owners, then!

[Edited on 6/19/2013 by robslob]



There is a simple answer to that. More pit bulls are owned by @ssholes in urban areas who have to try to act macho by having vicious looking and acting dogs so they abuse these dogs and train them to be aggressive. If the dogs weren't trained to be nasty and aggressive they wouldn't be nasty and aggressive. If you took an equal amount of ANY breed of dog and trained them to fight eachother or to be aggressive towards people or other animals then they will be nasty and aggressive dogs as well. It is totally the owner and not the breed. It is the owner, not the dog. I have been around a lot of these so called dangerous dogs over the years and have yet to ever come close to getting bit by any of them. Until someone can prove to me that pit bulls are naturally aggressive which I know is un provable I will continue to defend the breed and if I ever get my backyard properly fenced in again I plan on rescueing at least one if not two pit bulls. It has now been almost 7 years since my last dog, a beautiful American Bulldog that everyone thought was a Pit Bull had to be put down and I am more than ready to have a dog or dogs in my life again. The only breeds that interest me are pit bulls and american bulldogs.

And I hope whoever started this thread feels the same way about gun ownership and that all guns should be outlawed because a whole heck of a lot more people die at the end of a gun than the tiny fraction that die from pit bull attacks. By your logic all guns should be outlawed because so many people die from being shot every single day in this country.



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There is a simple answer to that. More pit bulls are owned by @ssholes in urban areas who have to try to act macho by having vicious looking and acting dogs so they abuse these dogs and train them to be aggressive. If the dogs weren't trained to be nasty and aggressive they wouldn't be nasty and aggressive. If you took an equal amount of ANY breed of dog and trained them to fight eachother or to be aggressive towards people or other animals then they will be nasty and aggressive dogs as well. It is totally the owner and not the breed. It is the owner, not the dog. I have been around a lot of these so called dangerous dogs over the years and have yet to ever come close to getting bit by any of them. Until someone can prove to me that pit bulls are naturally aggressive which I know is un provable I will continue to defend the breed and if I ever get my backyard properly fenced in again I plan on rescueing at least one if not two pit bulls. It has now been almost 7 years since my last dog, a beautiful American Bulldog that everyone thought was a Pit Bull had to be put down and I am more than ready to have a dog or dogs in my life again. The only breeds that interest me are pit bulls and american bulldogs.

And I hope whoever started this thread feels the same way about gun ownership and that all guns should be outlawed because a whole heck of a lot more people die at the end of a gun than the tiny fraction that die from pit bull attacks. By your logic all guns should be outlawed because so many people die from being shot every single day in this country.


I started the thread. I am for gun control, not outlawing guns. I am for vicious dog control, not outlawing dogs. I happen to think both are logical common sense solutions. But if a six year old boy being ripped open and murdered by a pit bull doesn't sway you, nothing will. Just like 20 elementary school children being slaughtered doesn't sway the anti-gun legislation crowd.

 

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