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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 08:07 AM
Any surprise that US media hasn't shown this dimension of the Egyptian protests?

Where has all that worldwide love for the US gone?

































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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 09:28 AM
Which is yet more evidence that Obama, like every president in my lifetime and certainly many before that, has supported thugs the world over whenever it's deemed in the best interest of the United States. It's amazing, really, that the blow back that such a strategy causes over the long term only manifested itself as recently as 911 and not a long time before that.
 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 11:32 AM
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Which is yet more evidence that Obama, like every president in my lifetime and certainly many before that, has supported thugs the world over whenever it's deemed in the best interest of the United States. It's amazing, really, that the blow back that such a strategy causes over the long term only manifested itself as recently as 911 and not a long time before that.


And yet Obama and his supporters argued in 2008 that our "unpopularity" was due to Bush's policies and it would all change when he took over. Obama has made one huge change in our foreign policy. He has oriented the U.S. towards favoring Islamist regimes whereas American policy always recognized that religious facist regimes would be inherently opposed to our interests. As Egypt, Libya and Turkey are proving this is a terrible mistake. Syria will likely end up the same way.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 11:38 AM
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He has oriented the U.S. towards favoring Islamist regimes whereas American policy always recognized that religious facist regimes would be inherently opposed to our interests.

Simply not true. The US is not "favoring" Islamist regimes any more or less than it has in the past.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 11:53 AM
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He has oriented the U.S. towards favoring Islamist regimes whereas American policy always recognized that religious facist regimes would be inherently opposed to our interests.


So, over 3,000 Americans didn't sacrifice their lives in order to create an Islamic Republic in Iraq?

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 12:26 PM
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He has oriented the U.S. towards favoring Islamist regimes whereas American policy always recognized that religious facist regimes would be inherently opposed to our interests.


So, over 3,000 Americans didn't sacrifice their lives in order to create an Islamic Republic in Iraq?


Yeah, really. Wott a fiasco.

I don't think that was anywhere close to the intended outcome, wottever the intended outcome was. I honestly don't think there was an exit strategy when the bombing started, but they sure didn't want another Iran.

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 01:14 PM
" but they sure didn't want another Iran."

Which, ironically, is what might ultimately be the outcome of the our little nation building exercise in Iraq over the coming years. Or at least another ally or surrogate of Iran.


[Edited on 7/3/2013 by Chain]

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 01:19 PM
Personally, I think we ought to pull everyone out of the middle east and tell them to let us know when the dust settles. Those peoples haven't gotten along ever as far as I know and all we're doing is wasting resources and squandering lives.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 01:24 PM
These backwards @ss people don't know what the hell they want. They wanted the other government out, elected in this one, and now want them out. Next year they will probably want the next government out and they will always hate the USA regardless of who is President. If they don't like us and don't want our help or advice then let them deal with it on their own. I am sick of these middle eastern countries asking for help and assistance and then eventually turning on us as if we didn't do the right thing when what they wanted doesn't turn out the way they thought it would. Not our fault so f_ck off Egypt. Take care of your own problems and if you continue to criticize our President and nation then we will stop sending all of the aid you take from us every year.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 01:27 PM
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Any surprise that US media hasn't shown this dimension of the Egyptian protests?

Where has all that worldwide love for the US gone?

































http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-02/guest-post-egyptians-love-us-our-f reedom


Those people never had any love for us in the first place. The only thing they love is taking aid from us. Screw Egypt and the rest of the middle east who love taking money from us and asking for help only to insult and hate us for it.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 01:29 PM
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Personally, I think we ought to pull everyone out of the middle east and tell them to let us know when the dust settles. Those peoples haven't gotten along ever as far as I know and all we're doing is wasting resources and squandering lives.

Agreed. But hand-in-hand with that, a US President has to stand up and say that we will partner with other sources of oil, and greatly expand our own development of it, before we can tell the Mideast adios.

Expand natural gas development and it's application to transportation, expand our oil infrastructure, and flip the mideast the bird. I'd love to see it.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 01:41 PM
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Personally, I think we ought to pull everyone out of the middle east and tell them to let us know when the dust settles. Those peoples haven't gotten along ever as far as I know and all we're doing is wasting resources and squandering lives.

Agreed. But hand-in-hand with that, a US President has to stand up and say that we will partner with other sources of oil, and greatly expand our own development of it, before we can tell the Mideast adios.

Expand natural gas development and it's application to transportation, expand our oil infrastructure, and flip the mideast the bird. I'd love to see it.


This is going to hurt ya I'm pretty sure, but I totally agree with you.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 02:03 PM
Wow, I didn't realize how similar Egypt was to the USA. They elect someone and then a good percentage of the people don't like the results. The only difference is they are blaming Obama for some reason, and here they blame "low information voters" or something like that for electing Obama. Whatever! Let them fend for themselves.
 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 02:05 PM
Haven't they been making posters like that and burning effigies of American Presidents going back to at least Carter? I remember plenty of that on the news in the Reagan years.
 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 02:08 PM
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Personally, I think we ought to pull everyone out of the middle east and tell them to let us know when the dust settles. Those peoples haven't gotten along ever as far as I know and all we're doing is wasting resources and squandering lives.

Agreed. But hand-in-hand with that, a US President has to stand up and say that we will partner with other sources of oil, and greatly expand our own development of it, before we can tell the Mideast adios.

Expand natural gas development and it's application to transportation, expand our oil infrastructure, and flip the mideast the bird. I'd love to see it.

This is going to hurt ya I'm pretty sure, but I totally agree with you.

You see, consensus is still possible!

Hallelujah brother and sisters. Can I get an amen!!

 

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Personally, I think we ought to pull everyone out of the middle east and tell them to let us know when the dust settles. Those peoples haven't gotten along ever as far as I know and all we're doing is wasting resources and squandering lives.

Agreed. But hand-in-hand with that, a US President has to stand up and say that we will partner with other sources of oil, and greatly expand our own development of it, before we can tell the Mideast adios.

Expand natural gas development and it's application to transportation, expand our oil infrastructure, and flip the mideast the bird. I'd love to see it.

This is going to hurt ya I'm pretty sure, but I totally agree with you.

You see, consensus is still possible!

Hallelujah brother and sisters. Can I get an amen!!


Well, I think you're wrong. Stick that in your warm fuzzy.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 02:35 PM
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Personally, I think we ought to pull everyone out of the middle east and tell them to let us know when the dust settles. Those peoples haven't gotten along ever as far as I know and all we're doing is wasting resources and squandering lives.

Agreed. But hand-in-hand with that, a US President has to stand up and say that we will partner with other sources of oil, and greatly expand our own development of it, before we can tell the Mideast adios.

Expand natural gas development and it's application to transportation, expand our oil infrastructure, and flip the mideast the bird. I'd love to see it.

This is going to hurt ya I'm pretty sure, but I totally agree with you.

You see, consensus is still possible!

Hallelujah brother and sisters. Can I get an amen!!


Well, I think you're wrong. Stick that in your warm fuzzy.


I use a dipilatory.

 

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He has oriented the U.S. towards favoring Islamist regimes whereas American policy always recognized that religious facist regimes would be inherently opposed to our interests.

Simply not true. The US is not "favoring" Islamist regimes any more or less than it has in the past.


No it simply is true. Indisputably and undeniably. How you can say otherwise is beyond me.

 

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Personally, I think we ought to pull everyone out of the middle east and tell them to let us know when the dust settles. Those peoples haven't gotten along ever as far as I know and all we're doing is wasting resources and squandering lives.

Agreed. But hand-in-hand with that, a US President has to stand up and say that we will partner with other sources of oil, and greatly expand our own development of it, before we can tell the Mideast adios.

Expand natural gas development and it's application to transportation, expand our oil infrastructure, and flip the mideast the bird. I'd love to see it.

This is going to hurt ya I'm pretty sure, but I totally agree with you.

You see, consensus is still possible!

Hallelujah brother and sisters. Can I get an amen!!


Amen!

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 03:36 PM
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He has oriented the U.S. towards favoring Islamist regimes whereas American policy always recognized that religious facist regimes would be inherently opposed to our interests.


So, over 3,000 Americans didn't sacrifice their lives in order to create an Islamic Republic in Iraq?


First, an Islamist regime does not rule Iraq. I am sure you know the difference between the Muslim Brotherhood and the parties that are ruling Iraq.

Second and more importantly, whatever happens good or bad, it was not U.S. policy and intent to establish rule by an Islamist regime. If that happens it will be due to the failure of U.S. policy not the policy itself.

 

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These backwards @ss people don't know what the hell they want. They wanted the other government out, elected in this one, and now want them out. Next year they will probably want the next government out and they will always hate the USA regardless of who is President. If they don't like us and don't want our help or advice then let them deal with it on their own. I am sick of these middle eastern countries asking for help and assistance and then eventually turning on us as if we didn't do the right thing when what they wanted doesn't turn out the way they thought it would. Not our fault so f_ck off Egypt. Take care of your own problems and if you continue to criticize our President and nation then we will stop sending all of the aid you take from us every year.


The country is collapsing and the people would starve without foreign aid. Who can blame them?

 

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He has oriented the U.S. towards favoring Islamist regimes whereas American policy always recognized that religious facist regimes would be inherently opposed to our interests.

Simply not true. The US is not "favoring" Islamist regimes any more or less than it has in the past.


No it simply is true. Indisputably and undeniably. How you can say otherwise is beyond me.

You need to do more history homework.

 

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Personally, I think we ought to pull everyone out of the middle east and tell them to let us know when the dust settles. Those peoples haven't gotten along ever as far as I know and all we're doing is wasting resources and squandering lives.

Agreed. But hand-in-hand with that, a US President has to stand up and say that we will partner with other sources of oil, and greatly expand our own development of it, before we can tell the Mideast adios.

Expand natural gas development and it's application to transportation, expand our oil infrastructure, and flip the mideast the bird. I'd love to see it.


This is going to hurt ya I'm pretty sure, but I totally agree with you.


Make that a foursome. I'd love to see it happen. The Middle East is the armpit of the universe.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 03:55 PM
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He has oriented the U.S. towards favoring Islamist regimes whereas American policy always recognized that religious facist regimes would be inherently opposed to our interests.

Simply not true. The US is not "favoring" Islamist regimes any more or less than it has in the past.


No it simply is true. Indisputably and undeniably. How you can say otherwise is beyond me.


I don't agree with this either. What we have favored in each case is what the people of these countries said they wanted. Now they flip and want something else a year later. What will it be next year. All of these governments will always have an Islamic undertone and there will always be an anti American faction. We can try to get along with whoever is in charge in these countries or we can blow them off but as described by Fuji we still need the go go juice so we really have no choice but to try to co exist and sometimes side with people that don't like us. The whole thing sucks and I hate that we send massive aid to these people but it is what it is and it is not the fault of our government or our President, period. It is their problem, not ours.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2013 at 03:58 PM
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These backwards @ss people don't know what the hell they want. They wanted the other government out, elected in this one, and now want them out. Next year they will probably want the next government out and they will always hate the USA regardless of who is President. If they don't like us and don't want our help or advice then let them deal with it on their own. I am sick of these middle eastern countries asking for help and assistance and then eventually turning on us as if we didn't do the right thing when what they wanted doesn't turn out the way they thought it would. Not our fault so f_ck off Egypt. Take care of your own problems and if you continue to criticize our President and nation then we will stop sending all of the aid you take from us every year.


The country is collapsing and the people would starve without foreign aid. Who can blame them?



Then they should stop hating the hand that feeds them and stop criticizing us for everything we do to try to help them.

 

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