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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 08:02 AM
So Zimmerman walks away and a teenager is six feet under. Sadly we have a Second Ammendment that allows people to carry guns.

Thank goodness we have a 'well regulated militia' to protect us from kids walking home eating Skittles. The gun used to slaughter the babies in Newtown was also owned by one of the 'well regulated militia's' esteemed members.

I feel so freakin safe just knowing our, 'well regulated militia' is always on duty.

REPEAL THE SECOND AMMENDMENT AND CONFISCATE ALL GUNS. STOP THE MADNESS.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 08:40 AM
Never going to happen.

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 09:19 AM
There certainly needs to be much stricter rules as to who can carry guns around, concealed or not. Zimmerman is the poster boy for someone who should never have ever gotten a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Turned down to be a cop. A record of having assaulted a police officer and resisting arrest. Having restraining orders against him. Lying to authorities about his earnings and other things in court records. How the hell does someone with this punk's thuggish record get a permit to carry a concealed gun around?????

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 09:37 AM
I understand what you are saying, and why , lovelead.


I agree with PhotoRon and sixt8. Well said , expalined sixty8.


 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 12:45 PM
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I understand what you are saying, and why , lovelead.


I agree with PhotoRon and sixt8. Well said , expalined sixty8.




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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 01:56 PM
I call for more gun control, for more thorough background checks, and mental and safety exams that need to be passed every 6 years, much like a driver's test. The tests should be the same ones used by police departments to determine whether an applicant is fit to be a cop. I think this would help weed out the psychos. Guns don't kill people....people kill people, which is why we need to do more to make sure they don't fall into the hands of the wrong people.

There are lots of reasons to be turned down to become a cop. Do we know why? It may not have anything to do with his mental state.

Zimmerman does not have a criminal record at all. He was charged with "resisting arrest without violence", which was dropped when he volunteered to enter an alcohol program. His crime? Drunkenly shoving a police office who was arresting his friend. Not a wise decision, but certainly not violent.

Both filed restraining orders against each other. Who knows what type of volatile relationship they had. Zimmerman is actually the poster boy for those who SHOULD carry a gun. He applied for all the necessary permits, and to my knowledge, even took courses on how to use it safely.


 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 02:05 PM
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I call for more gun control, for more thorough background checks, and mental and safety exams that need to be passed every 6 years, much like a driver's test. The tests should be the same ones used by police departments to determine whether an applicant is fit to be a cop. I think this would help weed out the psychos. Guns don't kill people....people kill people, which is why we need to do more to make sure they don't fall into the hands of the wrong people.

There are lots of reasons to be turned down to become a cop. Do we know why? It may not have anything to do with his mental state.

Zimmerman does not have a criminal record at all. He was charged with "resisting arrest without violence", which was dropped when he volunteered to enter an alcohol program. His crime? Drunkenly shoving a police office who was arresting his friend. Not a wise decision, but certainly not violent.

Both filed restraining orders against each other. Who knows what type of volatile relationship they had. Zimmerman is actually the poster boy for those who SHOULD carry a gun. He applied for all the necessary permits, and to my knowledge, even took courses on how to use it safely.




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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 02:21 PM
I am ashamed to be from FL today. Do favor gun rights however and encourage all lefties like me to be like me and get strapped. So, so many like Zimmerman out there.

In fact, I'd like to see about 5,000 black citizens at the Sanford, FL courthouse in the morning applying for concealed carry. You know, so they can "stand their ground".

[Edited on 7/14/2013 by aiq]

 

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aiq, I don't see how race is relevant to this case. I know it has been brought up by many, but I just don't see it. You want to see 5,000 black citizens apply for concealed carry? I think every American, no matter what their race, should apply for concealed carry. If they pass, they pass.
 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 03:05 PM
The "Stand your ground" law was not part of the defense case. They argued simple self-defense.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 03:07 PM
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There are lots of reasons to be turned down to become a cop. Do we know why? It may not have anything to do with his mental state.

The personnel guy from the department Zimmerman applied to testified that he was turned down because he had a bad credit report. He explained that they don't hire applicants with bad credit because officers with credit problems are a higher risk for corruption (bribes, shake-downs, etc.)

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 03:13 PM
Thank you bob for the facts there.
Zimmerman , pardon me for repeating myself for the 50th time here, but he was no choir boy as was Martin no choir boy.

aig, that is serious.
Everybody, providing they have right background check, etc., can have a gun BUT everyone does not need a gun due to : if one has a record like Zimmerman had and his mental state, if one has young children at home, if one has a half-cocked teenager like Sandy Hook killer.

You bet all those applying and carrying a concealed weapon will end up behind bars for shooting the wrong person, wrong situation, etc.
Scary.

[Edited on 7/14/2013 by SGirl]

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 04:20 PM
I have never seen a case so guided by the media and bleeding hearts people wake up read the fact of the case leave all attitude at the door read the facts.. understand the law and accept it both of them were wrong but only one was beaten and all that mattered in that case according to the law is what GZ was thinking right before he used deadly force that is all that matters period.... and he feared for his life... end of story I still attach blame on them both and I am sorry for the lose of a young man who had his whole life in front of him... but he chose to fight instead of flight as the facts of the case showed...

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 05:00 PM
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I have never seen a case so guided by the media and bleeding hearts people wake up read the fact of the case leave all attitude at the door read the facts.. understand the law and accept it both of them were wrong but only one was beaten and all that mattered in that case according to the law is what GZ was thinking right before he used deadly force that is all that matters period.... and he feared for his life... end of story I still attach blame on them both and I am sorry for the lose of a young man who had his whole life in front of him... but he chose to fight instead of flight as the facts of the case showed...


You are a racist and dead freakin wrong. Zimmerman is a racist, profiling pig who had no right to go near the kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was told not to follow him but he did and everything after that was his fault. Everything.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 05:14 PM
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Drunkenly shoving a police office who was arresting his friend. Not a wise decision, but certainly not violent.
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Shoving a cop is not violent??? Not only violent but the epitome of dumb and someone who certainly should not be carrying a gun around. Especially someone who is as physically weak and feeble as Zimmerman was and is. Without that gun Zimmerman would have never had the balls to get out and follow Martin. Very scary that someone with his background and mentality could get a concealed carrying permit. He would have no chance at getting that permit in NY with his background.

 

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aiq, I don't see how race is relevant to this case. I know it has been brought up by many, but I just don't see it. You want to see 5,000 black citizens apply for concealed carry? I think every American, no matter what their race, should apply for concealed carry. If they pass, they pass.


It is too bad Martin didn't arm himself with a knife or some kind of weapon that might have evened things out once the fight started. Once he saw the gun he could have defended himself by plunging the knife into Zimmerman's heart. Then he would or should have get off for it with the same stand your ground self defense argument.

 

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There are lots of reasons to be turned down to become a cop. Do we know why? It may not have anything to do with his mental state.

The personnel guy from the department Zimmerman applied to testified that he was turned down because he had a bad credit report. He explained that they don't hire applicants with bad credit because officers with credit problems are a higher risk for corruption (bribes, shake-downs, etc.)


And I believe Zimmerman lied about earnings and such.

 

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I have never seen a case so guided by the media and bleeding hearts people wake up read the fact of the case leave all attitude at the door read the facts.. understand the law and accept it both of them were wrong but only one was beaten and all that mattered in that case according to the law is what GZ was thinking right before he used deadly force that is all that matters period.... and he feared for his life... end of story I still attach blame on them both and I am sorry for the lose of a young man who had his whole life in front of him... but he chose to fight instead of flight as the facts of the case showed...


You are a racist and dead freakin wrong. Zimmerman is a racist, profiling pig who had no right to go near the kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was told not to follow him but he did and everything after that was his fault. Everything.


WOW that is a new one I am a racist OK if you say so.. wow

 

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There are lots of reasons to be turned down to become a cop. Do we know why? It may not have anything to do with his mental state.

The personnel guy from the department Zimmerman applied to testified that he was turned down because he had a bad credit report. He explained that they don't hire applicants with bad credit because officers with credit problems are a higher risk for corruption (bribes, shake-downs, etc.)

And I believe Zimmerman lied about earnings and such.

That could be, but that wasn't in the testimony I heard.

 

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I have never seen a case so guided by the media and bleeding hearts people wake up read the fact of the case leave all attitude at the door read the facts.. understand the law and accept it both of them were wrong but only one was beaten and all that mattered in that case according to the law is what GZ was thinking right before he used deadly force that is all that matters period.... and he feared for his life... end of story I still attach blame on them both and I am sorry for the lose of a young man who had his whole life in front of him... but he chose to fight instead of flight as the facts of the case showed...

You are a racist and dead freakin wrong. Zimmerman is a racist, profiling pig who had no right to go near the kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was told not to follow him but he did and everything after that was his fault. Everything.

WOW that is a new one I am a racist OK if you say so.. wow

Ignore it, Ryde. This case has brought out a lot ugliness in these threads. Those of us who have ben reading your posts for a while know better.

 

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I have never seen a case so guided by the media and bleeding hearts people wake up read the fact of the case leave all attitude at the door read the facts.. understand the law and accept it both of them were wrong but only one was beaten and all that mattered in that case according to the law is what GZ was thinking right before he used deadly force that is all that matters period.... and he feared for his life... end of story I still attach blame on them both and I am sorry for the lose of a young man who had his whole life in front of him... but he chose to fight instead of flight as the facts of the case showed...


You are a racist and dead freakin wrong. Zimmerman is a racist, profiling pig who had no right to go near the kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was told not to follow him but he did and everything after that was his fault. Everything.


WOW that is a new one I am a racist OK if you say so.. wow


Yeah I do say so. Too bad if you don't like it. That is what you are by your own words.

You are a racist and dead freakin wrong. Zimmerman is a racist, profiling pig who had no right to go near the kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was told not to follow him but he did and everything after that was his fault. Everything.

You think because you have some Native American blood in you that you are not a freakin racist? You are.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 06:52 PM
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I call for more gun control, for more thorough background checks, and mental and safety exams that need to be passed every 6 years, much like a driver's test. The tests should be the same ones used by police departments to determine whether an applicant is fit to be a cop. I think this would help weed out the psychos. Guns don't kill people....people kill people, which is why we need to do more to make sure they don't fall into the hands of the wrong people.

There are lots of reasons to be turned down to become a cop. Do we know why? It may not have anything to do with his mental state.

Zimmerman does not have a criminal record at all. He was charged with "resisting arrest without violence", which was dropped when he volunteered to enter an alcohol program. His crime? Drunkenly shoving a police office who was arresting his friend. Not a wise decision, but certainly not violent.

Both filed restraining orders against each other. Who knows what type of volatile relationship they had. Zimmerman is actually the poster boy for those who SHOULD carry a gun. He applied for all the necessary permits, and to my knowledge, even took courses on how to use it safely.




Agreed. The slander against him will never stop.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2013 at 07:02 PM
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The "Stand your ground" law was not part of the defense case. They argued simple self-defense.


It doesn't matter how many times we repeat it. The story is set in stone. Florida has a wacky stand your ground law that let Zimmerman get off and Zimmerman ignored an order from the police and got out of his truck and stalked Martin. Both patently false.

 

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I have never seen a case so guided by the media and bleeding hearts people wake up read the fact of the case leave all attitude at the door read the facts.. understand the law and accept it both of them were wrong but only one was beaten and all that mattered in that case according to the law is what GZ was thinking right before he used deadly force that is all that matters period.... and he feared for his life... end of story I still attach blame on them both and I am sorry for the lose of a young man who had his whole life in front of him... but he chose to fight instead of flight as the facts of the case showed...


You are a racist and dead freakin wrong. Zimmerman is a racist, profiling pig who had no right to go near the kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was told not to follow him but he did and everything after that was his fault. Everything.


Nice. Nothing like reasoned discourse. For your information (if you even care about reality) Zimmerman did NOT follow him after being told not to. Rather he was already following him from a distance when he spoke to the dispatcher. When the dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that" meaning continue to follow him, Zimmerman attempted to return to his truck. This is in the transcript of the conversation between Zimmerman and the dispatcher. Does anyone give a damn about actual facts at all or do we just make up what we want to hear?

 

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I have never seen a case so guided by the media and bleeding hearts people wake up read the fact of the case leave all attitude at the door read the facts.. understand the law and accept it both of them were wrong but only one was beaten and all that mattered in that case according to the law is what GZ was thinking right before he used deadly force that is all that matters period.... and he feared for his life... end of story I still attach blame on them both and I am sorry for the lose of a young man who had his whole life in front of him... but he chose to fight instead of flight as the facts of the case showed...


You are a racist and dead freakin wrong. Zimmerman is a racist, profiling pig who had no right to go near the kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was told not to follow him but he did and everything after that was his fault. Everything.


WOW that is a new one I am a racist OK if you say so.. wow


Yeah I do say so. Too bad if you don't like it. That is what you are by your own words.

You are a racist and dead freakin wrong. Zimmerman is a racist, profiling pig who had no right to go near the kid who was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was told not to follow him but he did and everything after that was his fault. Everything.

You think because you have some Native American blood in you that you are not a freakin racist? You are.


What makes him a racist?

 

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