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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 01:20 PM
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This sick f_ck stated on Hannity that knowing the outcome, after the fact that he would do everything exactly the same way again. Knowing now that Martin was doing nothing wrong and that Martin ended up dead and that he could have avoided it by staying in his car he STILL says he wouldn't change a thing because it was God's plan????? This not only shows that he did not learn a single thing from this incident but also shows you what kind of mind set this weirdo has. It is absolutely scary to think that a man who thinks like that can walk around with a loaded gun. This guy Zimmerman is a sick and insensitive ba$tard to say he would do everything exactly the same after knowing everything now. With that attitude I feel no sympathy for him if he has to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life because if he says he would do the same exact thing again knowing the outcome then he is indeed a sick and deranged person.

 

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That interview was before the trial and i would not expect anyone to be changing their story then, I would be curious to hear his take on it now...but after everything I doubt his story would be any different I believe it happened just like he said , I also believe he is very troubled at having to kill that young man... but that is just me..

 

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That interview was before the trial and i would not expect anyone to be changing their story then, I would be curious to hear his take on it now...but after everything I doubt his story would be any different I believe it happened just like he said , I also believe he is very troubled at having to kill that young man... but that is just me..


If he were so troubled by it he would never have said he would do the exact same thing again knowing the outcome and that he could have avoided the whole thing. You are right he is a troubled person. Troubled because he can't understand that his actions that night were wrong and he actually thinks it was God's plan for an innocent young kid to die that tragic night. Saying he would do the same thing again after knowing all the facts makes him a sick and troubled man who IMO should not be carrying a gun.

God's will for a kid coming home from 7-11 with some candy and an iced tea talking on a cell phone to die???? That is an absolutely sick and whacko mind set IMO.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 02:06 PM
Ryde, he is not roubled. Troubled, saddened why?

He SAID IT WAS ALL GOD's PLAN.
It was all God's plan.

Then.
Now.
Next year.

It was all God's plan.

Now, he was found NG, he DEFINITELY believes as he did then, it was all God's plan.

Yes, sixty8, Georgie boy is a sick fukc.


Prior 911 calls, about 42 of these calls for : a neighbor left their garage door open and it looks suspicous, two boys, Black about 8-9 yrs old on bikes through the neighborhood, a pothole outside by the entrance, a party some neighbors had, and more. WoW!!!


Georgie has failed at many jobs. The daddy is a former magistrate judge. We don't what the brother and sister do for a living. Gerogie seems like a failure to the father, I bet. Hmmm, bet there is some story there.

God. I believe in God. I like my faith, Catholic, the faith of my ancestors, and it works for me. Faith is personal. No, I do not believe in all people, lay people or religious people.
No, I do not support the wrong of the church.
If I were any other relgion, I would feel the sme way.



Sorry , off there, I find when people bring "their God" into a story it is used to support their situation no matter how wrong they are .
God is used as an excuse.



Add the brother was tv saying how no they were to have no regrets when you something you know is right.
No, Geroge has no regrets.

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 03:18 PM
Consistency - It's in his best interest from a legal perspective to remain consistent. It will be interesting to see how a trial lawyer can come at him from different angles in a civil trial (if there is one) to see if his consistency holds up...kind of like how Don West came at RJ.

Troubled - Who knows? If anyone has any credible information to support this, please post.




 

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This sick f_ck stated on Hannity that knowing the outcome, after the fact that he would do everything exactly the same way again. Knowing now that Martin was doing nothing wrong and that Martin ended up dead and that he could have avoided it by staying in his car he STILL says he wouldn't change a thing because it was God's plan?????

All sorts of people believe that things happen because God controls fate and outcomes. And I bet you wouldn't think for a moment to criticize, much less call a "sick f_ck", most of them. The athlete who points to the sky or crosses themselves after a victory. The general who says the battle was won because of God's blessing. The politician who invokes God's grace to help him win.

The only problem is that in each of those instances, somebody also loses. That loss sometimes means people die. Plenty of references in the Bible of tribes falling to the Israelites. Were they "sick f_cks" for giving thanks to God for their victories?

If someone's faith is such that they believe God is in control of these outcomes, then it means he's in control of both sides of the outcome. Winner and loser. So what you're really doing is criticizing his religious beliefs, which are shared by millions the world over. In some circles that's a pretty serious charge, one you might want to rethink.

But of course, it's all ok when contrasted to the angelic Trayon. Angelic my ass...

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 04:19 PM
Fuj , you are one-sided as usual.

Trayon was not an angle.
Georgie is a sick fukc.

These are the facts.

Can we all at least agree on nthese facts.
FACTS.
GZ's prior 911 calls, his history of failing and just wanting to be more than what he was. Add His prior arrest and incidents with the police.

TM was not angel. He was on school suspension for pot. He had some school fights.

BOTH characters were very flawed.

GZ has to live with this, thugh it was God's plan and he has no regrets. I doubt he can get that big book deal. I thought so at first, but no. The story is just too controversial.
His name is ruined. With name change and palstic surgery, he should then be able to re-enter society with a job, nneighborhood.

TM is dead.

Civil suits are easier to proove. Too bad the Martins are not getting best advice and are handling this all wrong.
I hope they win there and we all , for SOCIETY'S sake, can call this a draw and move on from this circus.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2371674/Trayvon-Martins-parents-spe ak-crowds-rallies-held-U-S-demanding-justice-dead-Florida-teenager.html

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The state of Florida filed charges and tried George Zimmerman in a court of law. The jury listened to the testimony and looked at all of the evidence in the case found George Zimmerman innocent of 2nd degree murder and manslaughter, case closed. FACT







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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 04:49 PM
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This sick f_ck stated on Hannity that knowing the outcome, after the fact that he would do everything exactly the same way again. Knowing now that Martin was doing nothing wrong and that Martin ended up dead and that he could have avoided it by staying in his car he STILL says he wouldn't change a thing because it was God's plan?????

All sorts of people believe that things happen because God controls fate and outcomes. And I bet you wouldn't think for a moment to criticize, much less call a "sick f_ck", most of them. The athlete who points to the sky or crosses themselves after a victory. The general who says the battle was won because of God's blessing. The politician who invokes God's grace to help him win.

The only problem is that in each of those instances, somebody also loses. That loss sometimes means people die. Plenty of references in the Bible of tribes falling to the Israelites. Were they "sick f_cks" for giving thanks to God for their victories?

If someone's faith is such that they believe God is in control of these outcomes, then it means he's in control of both sides of the outcome. Winner and loser. So what you're really doing is criticizing his religious beliefs, which are shared by millions the world over. In some circles that's a pretty serious charge, one you might want to rethink.

But of course, it's all ok when contrasted to the angelic Trayon. Angelic my ass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls




I thought your post was excellent and contained substance, and then I read the final sentence.Too bad you imploded the post by lowering yourself to that kind of closing.

 

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I am pretty sure Martin threw the first punch.

I am pretty sure Martin used the term "cracker", which I don't know anyone who is white that EVER calls their friends "cracker". It is just as racist as dropping the N bomb.

You don't know how Martin was acting when he was approached. Seems to me this mostly on Martin. Why didn't just tell Zimmerman what he was up to or going and I am sure it would not have gone down like this. Seems to me Martin was acting VERY shady.

They thoroughly vetted Zim on his views towards race and could not find one person that would back up this theory.

The drive-by media and the POTUS are playing you like fools. Holder has no case and he knows it.

Stand your ground was NOT the defense for this case, but yet, they keep talking about it?

The POTUS could have been Zimmerman, but he could not have been Martin. Figure it out for yourselves.

A grand jury never saw the evidence, this was tried by a politician with an agenda.

The Family has already settled for 1 million dollars thru the HOA.

Divide and conquer, brilliant.





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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 05:01 PM
If Trayvon did not punch Zimmerman in the nose and then get on top of him and beat him, Trayvon would not have been shot. What part of this do you not understand?

Zimmerman should have stayed in his car because Trayvon could not control his fists or his anger, yeah right, got it!

 

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This sick f_ck stated on Hannity that knowing the outcome, after the fact that he would do everything exactly the same way again. Knowing now that Martin was doing nothing wrong and that Martin ended up dead and that he could have avoided it by staying in his car he STILL says he wouldn't change a thing because it was God's plan?????

All sorts of people believe that things happen because God controls fate and outcomes. And I bet you wouldn't think for a moment to criticize, much less call a "sick f_ck", most of them. The athlete who points to the sky or crosses themselves after a victory. The general who says the battle was won because of God's blessing. The politician who invokes God's grace to help him win.

The only problem is that in each of those instances, somebody also loses. That loss sometimes means people die. Plenty of references in the Bible of tribes falling to the Israelites. Were they "sick f_cks" for giving thanks to God for their victories?

If someone's faith is such that they believe God is in control of these outcomes, then it means he's in control of both sides of the outcome. Winner and loser. So what you're really doing is criticizing his religious beliefs, which are shared by millions the world over. In some circles that's a pretty serious charge, one you might want to rethink.

But of course, it's all ok when contrasted to the angelic Trayon. Angelic my ass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls



I thought your post was excellent and contained substance, and then I read the final sentence.Too bad you imploded the post by lowering yourself to that kind of closing.

The media cast TM as the little angel to prosecute Zimmerman in the court of public opinion long before he had a chance to have a reasonable chance at justice. If that's uncomfortable for some to recognize, so be it.

 

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This sick f_ck stated on Hannity that knowing the outcome, after the fact that he would do everything exactly the same way again. Knowing now that Martin was doing nothing wrong and that Martin ended up dead and that he could have avoided it by staying in his car he STILL says he wouldn't change a thing because it was God's plan?????

All sorts of people believe that things happen because God controls fate and outcomes. And I bet you wouldn't think for a moment to criticize, much less call a "sick f_ck", most of them. The athlete who points to the sky or crosses themselves after a victory. The general who says the battle was won because of God's blessing. The politician who invokes God's grace to help him win.

The only problem is that in each of those instances, somebody also loses. That loss sometimes means people die. Plenty of references in the Bible of tribes falling to the Israelites. Were they "sick f_cks" for giving thanks to God for their victories?

If someone's faith is such that they believe God is in control of these outcomes, then it means he's in control of both sides of the outcome. Winner and loser. So what you're really doing is criticizing his religious beliefs, which are shared by millions the world over. In some circles that's a pretty serious charge, one you might want to rethink.

But of course, it's all ok when contrasted to the angelic Trayon. Angelic my ass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls




You are absolutely crazy with this response and I am surprised that someone with your intelligence would answer with such a ridiculous answer. I don't care about his religious beliefs even though I think it is twisted that anybody would think that such an incident is God's will. Now read very, very closely so you understand what I am saying!!!!!!!!

My problem with this idiot moron is the fact that he says he would do it all over again exactly the same way if it happened again. Knowing that Martin is dead!!!! Knowing that Martin was doing nothing wrong!!!!!!! Knowing that if he had kept his fat @ss in the car that Martin would still be alive and this whole mess could have been avoided!!!!! Yet he still says he would do things the same exact way ending with the same result??????????? C'mon Rich, you have got to be friggin kidding me!!!!!!!! There is absolutely nothing Godly or religious about Zimmerman's afterthoughts that he wouldn't change a thing. If he were Godly and actually felt bad about having to take a life then he would have said he would have done anything to change the outcome.

The other examples you try to use there are completely apples and oranges. Those other examples may have been God's will and it would be perfectly OK for those to feel it were Gods will and that they wouldn't change what happened. This incident was nothing like that and I am certainly sure that it wasn't Gods will that an innocent kid walking back home from the store end up shot dead. If he believes that it was God's will and he would do it all over again after all of this then Zimmerman is even more twisted than I originally thought.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 05:22 PM
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Fuj , you are one-sided as usual.

Trayon was not an angle.
Georgie is a sick fukc.

These are the facts.

Can we all at least agree on nthese facts.
FACTS.
GZ's prior 911 calls, his history of failing and just wanting to be more than what he was. Add His prior arrest and incidents with the police.

TM was not angel. He was on school suspension for pot. He had some school fights.

BOTH characters were very flawed.

GZ has to live with this, thugh it was God's plan and he has no regrets. I doubt he can get that big book deal. I thought so at first, but no. The story is just too controversial.
His name is ruined. With name change and palstic surgery, he should then be able to re-enter society with a job, nneighborhood.

TM is dead.

Civil suits are easier to proove. Too bad the Martins are not getting best advice and are handling this all wrong.
I hope they win there and we all , for SOCIETY'S sake, can call this a draw and move on from this circus.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2371674/Trayvon-Martins-parents-spe ak-crowds-rallies-held-U-S-demanding-justice-dead-Florida-teenager.html

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You say both are flawed, and aren't we all? Who among us could stand proud to the type of speculative anal probing that the media gave both of these individuals about every instance, action, thought, relationship, or event in our lives? Of course, most of that media speculation carries no responsibility of law, so they can do and say what they want. And look how many were swayed in the wrong direction as a result.

All of the "facts" you wish me to agree on have nothing to do with the actions that occurred that night. Thankfully our system of law is such that the most important "facts" are the ones that are part of the actual event. Who would want it any other way?

Yes, I'm one sided. I'm on the side of how the law applies, and having it apply equally to all. Sorry I can't join the crowd who wants flexible justice to suit their emotional state and their reading of the "facts". That path is nothing but pure insanity and chaos.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 05:25 PM
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The state of Florida filed charges and tried George Zimmerman in a court of law. The jury listened to the testimony and looked at all of the evidence in the case found George Zimmerman innocent of 2nd degree murder and manslaughter, case closed. FACT







[Edited on 7/20/2013 by er1016]



We already know that. This is a separate thread I started when I saw FOX playing a clip of the Hannity interview and I realized what a crazy sociopath Zimmerman is. The over zealous moron actually has himself convinced after everything he has been through that he did everything right that night and he would do it all over again the same way. The more it sunk in the more crazy I found his statements.

Even the vast majority of his supporters admit that Zimmerman was wrong and should have stayed with his car that night after he called the cops avoiding the whole mess. How many people knowing the entire story and outcome now would say that they would do things exactly the same ending in the same result of a dead 17 year old kid?????? It is mind boggling that anyone would say such an outlandishly stupid and insensitive and uncaring thing. God's will my butt!!!!!!!

So ignore if you want. This thread isn't about the trial anymore. This thread is about the mindset of a stupid man who just doesn't get it.

 

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This sick f_ck stated on Hannity that knowing the outcome, after the fact that he would do everything exactly the same way again. Knowing now that Martin was doing nothing wrong and that Martin ended up dead and that he could have avoided it by staying in his car he STILL says he wouldn't change a thing because it was God's plan?????

All sorts of people believe that things happen because God controls fate and outcomes. And I bet you wouldn't think for a moment to criticize, much less call a "sick f_ck", most of them. The athlete who points to the sky or crosses themselves after a victory. The general who says the battle was won because of God's blessing. The politician who invokes God's grace to help him win.

The only problem is that in each of those instances, somebody also loses. That loss sometimes means people die. Plenty of references in the Bible of tribes falling to the Israelites. Were they "sick f_cks" for giving thanks to God for their victories?

If someone's faith is such that they believe God is in control of these outcomes, then it means he's in control of both sides of the outcome. Winner and loser. So what you're really doing is criticizing his religious beliefs, which are shared by millions the world over. In some circles that's a pretty serious charge, one you might want to rethink.

But of course, it's all ok when contrasted to the angelic Trayon. Angelic my ass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls



I thought your post was excellent and contained substance, and then I read the final sentence.Too bad you imploded the post by lowering yourself to that kind of closing.

The media cast TM as the little angel to prosecute Zimmerman in the court of public opinion long before he had a chance to have a reasonable chance at justice. If that's uncomfortable for some to recognize, so be it.


The media wouldn't have had to cast Martin as anything had Zimmerman taken adult mature actions instead of trying to act like a cop wannabe. It is a crying shame in this day and age in this country that any opinion had to be cast on the character of a kid walking back from the store with some refreshments who ends up dead.

 

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And to be perfectly honset, this has nothing to do with the media and how they portrayed each person. This is Zimmerman un edited in his very own words saying that if he could change anything from that night that he wouldn't and would do everything exactly the same even after most of his supporters say he should have handled things differently. He is a sick individual.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 05:58 PM
Again, you weren't there and don't know how Martin was acting. Dead men tell no tales.

Only one shot also tells me this was not race related.

Zim was neighborhood security. He saw someone that was acting in a way the he called 911.

The only thing Zim did wrong was get out of his car.





If a guy is standing over me beating the crap out of me, I would do the same. If you come into my neighborhood and seem shady and up to no good, I am going to follow you and call the police. If you hide in the bushes and put a sneak attack on me, bad **** could go down.

If you have the ingredients for purple drank, you just might be on it.

My problem is that you see no wrong doing by Martin. Clearly if he did not attack Zim, we wouldn't be here today.

The drive-by media strikes again, and they are still fanning the flames.

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 06:12 PM
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The state of Florida filed charges and tried George Zimmerman in a court of law. The jury listened to the testimony and looked at all of the evidence in the case found George Zimmerman innocent of 2nd degree murder and manslaughter, case closed. FACT







[Edited on 7/20/2013 by er1016]



We already know that. This is a separate thread I started when I saw FOX playing a clip of the Hannity interview and I realized what a crazy sociopath Zimmerman is. The over zealous moron actually has himself convinced after everything he has been through that he did everything right that night and he would do it all over again the same way. The more it sunk in the more crazy I found his statements.

Even the vast majority of his supporters admit that Zimmerman was wrong and should have stayed with his car that night after he called the cops avoiding the whole mess. How many people knowing the entire story and outcome now would say that they would do things exactly the same ending in the same result of a dead 17 year old kid?????? It is mind boggling that anyone would say such an outlandishly stupid and insensitive and uncaring thing. God's will my butt!!!!!!!

So ignore if you want. This thread isn't about the trial anymore. This thread is about the mindset of a stupid man who just doesn't get it.


I'm not ignoring anything, there just simply isn't anything to say beyond the jury found him not guilty, end of story..... Now if you want to start a thread on all of the nonsense that's taken place post trial then yeah I would have something to say. But with regards to the trial or the people involved, I really have nothing else to say. I don't feel the need to continuously rehash something that's ran it's course.

With regards to this thread, it looks to me like it's just a continuation of the same old same old that's been said in the, what 14 or 15 threads that pertains to the Zimmerman/Martin case.



You don't like Zimmerman nor are you happy with the verdict, we get it.






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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 06:12 PM
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You are absolutely crazy with this response and I am surprised that someone with your intelligence would answer with such a ridiculous answer. I don't care about his religious beliefs even though I think it is twisted that anybody would think that such an incident is God's will. Now read very, very closely so you understand what I am saying!!!!!!!!

The whole thrust of your first few sentences is hinged on disliking his response to Hannity, a response that is based on his statement that is was God's plan. Now I personally think that people who have such religious beliefs (that all is fated by God) are misguided. But my beliefs are irrelevant. He can have what religious beliefs he likes, whether you and I agree with them or not. I'm simply pointing out that there are many examples of that same belief system where you probably wouldn't classify the individuals the same way. That's up to you.

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My problem with this idiot moron is the fact that he says he would do it all over again exactly the same way if it happened again. Knowing that Martin is dead!!!! Knowing that Martin was doing nothing wrong!!!!!!! Knowing that if he had kept his fat @ss in the car that Martin would still be alive and this whole mess could have been avoided!!!!! Yet he still says he would do things the same exact way ending with the same result??????????? C'mon Rich, you have got to be friggin kidding me!!!!!!!! There is absolutely nothing Godly or religious about Zimmerman's afterthoughts that he wouldn't change a thing. If he were Godly and actually felt bad about having to take a life then he would have said he would have done anything to change the outcome.

I'm not giving him a pass on the action, I'm just saying that if he truly believes God is in control of his life, he is not going to doubt God's plan. It's his opinion, and thinking there aren't a whole lot of religious people who live in a similar fashion is denying a good portion of the world around us. Aren't we at war with a whole part of one religion that wants to kill us, based on similar reasoning?

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The other examples you try to use there are completely apples and oranges. Those other examples may have been God's will and it would be perfectly OK for those to feel it were Gods will and that they wouldn't change what happened. This incident was nothing like that and I am certainly sure that it wasn't Gods will that an innocent kid walking back home from the store end up shot dead. If he believes that it was God's will and he would do it all over again after all of this then Zimmerman is even more twisted than I originally thought.

It's just as valid to say that if God's will were to have Travon live, he would have gone straight home and not confronted, and then assaulted, Zimmerman.

Now personally, I think it's a convenient excuse. One we've heard before. But to deny that some people look upon their lives that way is to ignore how a large portion of the world lives and what they believe.

Which is why we separate such nonsense from provable fact and the actions specific to the event, and then apply what happened against the standard of the law. And in doing so, GZ was found to not have violated his rights to self defense. Simple as that.

Why isn't the question of why Travon didn't just run home when he thought he was being followed just as valid? What 17 year-old sees a man behind him on a dark night and then decides a confrontation is the best decision? That choice is just as questionable as anything GZ did.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 06:33 PM
.(quote) This thread is about the mindset of a man who just doesn't get it.


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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 06:56 PM
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You are absolutely crazy with this response and I am surprised that someone with your intelligence would answer with such a ridiculous answer. I don't care about his religious beliefs even though I think it is twisted that anybody would think that such an incident is God's will. Now read very, very closely so you understand what I am saying!!!!!!!!

The whole thrust of your first few sentences is hinged on disliking his response to Hannity, a response that is based on his statement that is was God's plan. Now I personally think that people who have such religious beliefs (that all is fated by God) are misguided. But my beliefs are irrelevant. He can have what religious beliefs he likes, whether you and I agree with them or not. I'm simply pointing out that there are many examples of that same belief system where you probably wouldn't classify the individuals the same way. That's up to you.

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My problem with this idiot moron is the fact that he says he would do it all over again exactly the same way if it happened again. Knowing that Martin is dead!!!! Knowing that Martin was doing nothing wrong!!!!!!! Knowing that if he had kept his fat @ss in the car that Martin would still be alive and this whole mess could have been avoided!!!!! Yet he still says he would do things the same exact way ending with the same result??????????? C'mon Rich, you have got to be friggin kidding me!!!!!!!! There is absolutely nothing Godly or religious about Zimmerman's afterthoughts that he wouldn't change a thing. If he were Godly and actually felt bad about having to take a life then he would have said he would have done anything to change the outcome.

I'm not giving him a pass on the action, I'm just saying that if he truly believes God is in control of his life, he is not going to doubt God's plan. It's his opinion, and thinking there aren't a whole lot of religious people who live in a similar fashion is denying a good portion of the world around us. Aren't we at war with a whole part of one religion that wants to kill us, based on similar reasoning?

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The other examples you try to use there are completely apples and oranges. Those other examples may have been God's will and it would be perfectly OK for those to feel it were Gods will and that they wouldn't change what happened. This incident was nothing like that and I am certainly sure that it wasn't Gods will that an innocent kid walking back home from the store end up shot dead. If he believes that it was God's will and he would do it all over again after all of this then Zimmerman is even more twisted than I originally thought.

It's just as valid to say that if God's will were to have Travon live, he would have gone straight home and not confronted, and then assaulted, Zimmerman.

Now personally, I think it's a convenient excuse. One we've heard before. But to deny that some people look upon their lives that way is to ignore how a large portion of the world lives and what they believe.

Which is why we separate such nonsense from provable fact and the actions specific to the event, and then apply what happened against the standard of the law. And in doing so, GZ was found to not have violated his rights to self defense. Simple as that.

Why isn't the question of why Travon didn't just run home when he thought he was being followed just as valid? What 17 year-old sees a man behind him on a dark night and then decides a confrontation is the best decision? That choice is just as questionable as anything GZ did.


Once again, all of the God's will stuff can be taken out of the equation if you just don't understand the gist of my thread!!!!! Regardless of what he thought it was Zimmerman said he would do it all exactly the same way again knowing everything that happened in hindsight. So he basically said if they could rewind the whole thing and start from scratch and everything were exactly the same that he wouldn't change a thing and that Martin would and should end up dead again?????? That is a sick and twisted philosophy and shows me that this feeble coward of a man has learned nothing from this incident. Him saying he would do it all over again exactly how it happened including the so called life threatening beating he took and a dead kid shows just how stupid and twisted he is.

I can't wait to see how he answers that he would do the same exact thing all over again the same way and that the incident was God's will while being cross examined in civil court. That will be quite interesting.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 07:09 PM
From where I sit Zimmerman is the poster boy for those who own guns. Paranoid people who think that people are after them...people are plotting against them....Lives surrounded by the fear of others. George Zimmerman could have simply minded his own business but with his fear level he can't....everything and everybody is a threat to people like him. He doesn't know his own place in life. A innocent life was lost due to the fear world GZ has created for himself and how it revolves around his very thoughts.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2013 at 07:19 PM
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Once again, all of the God's will stuff can be taken out of the equation if you just don't understand the gist of my thread!!!!!

Sigh.

It's his choice, belief, principle or whatever that includes God in the reasoning for why this happened. If he truly believes that God directs his actions and outcomes, then your request to take the God-stuff out is as offensive to him as you find his actions. If he truly believes that God directed this outcome, then he probably believes he acted as God's instrument to eliminate something evil or potentially so.

I understand the gist of your thread perfectly. You don't believe his reasoning and want to launch an emotional rant. I'm just pointing out that some folks live theirs lives based on different principles.

 

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