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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 09:20 AM
yah right. Anything you say what a joke

By: Michael Graham
“With an endless parade of distractions, political posturing and phony scandals, Washington has taken its eye off the ball.” — President Obama, Wednesday
Question: How many Americans have to be murdered in an al-Qaeda attack on a U.S. consulate before it stops being a “phony” scandal?Answer: If Barack Obama is president, more than four.Writers across the spectrum — from the liberal New York Times to the conservative Wall Street Journal — have beaten up on President Obama’s latest “dreadful, cliche-ridden” (James Taranto, wsj.com) speech on economic policy, the second-longest speech of his presidency.How can a man talk for more than an hour on a single topic, as Obama did on Wednesday, and say absolutely nothing new? As columnist Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post explained, “It’s because the president has nothing to say about the economy.”Liberals complain that all conservatives ever say is “Cut taxes and cut spending!” Perhaps they’re right, but that’s two more ideas than Barack Obama has offered during his entire presidency.Which is why the only line from this Teleprompter novella that’s gotten any traction is his “phony scandals” feint.“Phony”? What’s phony about the fact that the IRS targeted citizens based on their ideology? That the discussion of this targeting went all the way up to the president’s hand-picked IRS chief counsel William Wilkins? That Wilkins met with Obama in April 2012 just two days before “new guidance” on how to handle Tea Party applications was sent from Washington to IRS operatives?Imagine cub reporter Barack “WoodStein” Obama being told by his Washington Post editors in 1972 that the Nixon administration using the IRS to target its enemies was a “phony scandal.” Would he have agreed?“Phony”? What’s phony about the family members of a Fox News reporter being spied on by the Department of Justice? About Attorney General Eric Holder lying about his knowledge of “potential prosecution” of the media by his department?And then there’s Ben-ghazi. Almost a year later, we still don’t know where the president was when the terrorist attack started, whether the military was ordered to leave Glen Doherty to die, or why the White House continued to push the phony story of a video weeks after it knew it was a terror attack and not a movie protest.Four dead Americans at a consulate the Obama administration knew was being targeted but left unprotected. On 9/11. With an ambassador in it. If that’s a “phony scandal,” how many dead Americans does it take to make a real one?On the other hand, Obama has a point. All the talk about Benghazi and the IRS has taken attention away from another scandal — his horrible handling of the economy.We’re in year four of the worst “recovery” since World War II. How awful is it?It’s so awful that we still have a lower percentage of able-bodied adults in the workforce today than we did when Obama took office.So awful that median household incomes today are 5 percent lower than June 2009, the official start of the “recovery.”So awful that it would take three months of Obama’s best “job creation” month (300,000) to equal one month of Reagan’s (1 million).So awful that the lowest annual deficit under President Obama ($642 billion) is almost $200 billion worse than the highest deficit under George W. Bush ($459 billion).This is the economic scandal of the Obama presidency. Or maybe he thinks his economic record is “phony,” too. -

 
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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 09:47 AM
"It's inexcusable and Americans have a right to be angry about it, and I'm angry about it. The fact of the matter is the IRS has to operate with absolute integrity."

---Barack Obama, May 2013

As soon as the wrongdoing is traced back to one of his appointees, it turned from inexcusable to phony?

 

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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 10:51 AM
The only thing "phony" in this latest turn by our President is his tired ideas and tiresome methods.

The speeches are boring, the ideas are stale, and tactics of running out of Washington to attack your enemies is producing nothing. Phony leadership indeed!

 

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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 01:02 PM
But...but...but... gosh, he's just the smartest President EVER!!!

The phony is the ***hole running around giving these speeches. Hell, Stevie Wonder can see through this guy. Embarassing.

 

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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 01:33 PM
There are 9,000,000 fewer jobs in America now than in 2009 yet he's up there talking about creating all these jobs and about a strong recovery?

Nothing "phony" about that, Mr. President.

 

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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 01:45 PM
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The only thing "phony" in this latest turn by our President is his tired ideas and tiresome methods.

The speeches are boring, the ideas are stale, and tactics of running out of Washington to attack your enemies is producing nothing. Phony leadership indeed!


That's why his approval ratings are threatening to go below 40 percent for the second time. If the media weren't propping him up to the best of their ability he would be in the disaster zone by now. People are seeing what an incompetent phony he is.

 

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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 01:45 PM
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There are 9,000,000 fewer jobs in America now than in 2009 yet he's up there talking about creating all these jobs and about a strong recovery?

Nothing "phony" about that, Mr. President.

The job loss number you quote is a total misrepresentation of reality, but I'm sure you already know that. Job loss began to slow as soon as he took office and transitioned to job growth before his first year in office ended. We're now in a stretch of 16 straight months a job growth, something that never happened under the previous administration, despite an obstructionist congress.





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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 02:02 PM
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The only thing "phony" in this latest turn by our President is his tired ideas and tiresome methods.

The speeches are boring, the ideas are stale, and tactics of running out of Washington to attack your enemies is producing nothing. Phony leadership indeed!


That's why his approval ratings are threatening to go below 40 percent for the second time. If the media weren't propping him up to the best of their ability he would be in the disaster zone by now. People are seeing what an incompetent phony he is.


It's hard to believe they can find 40% that approve. Scary.

 

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  posted on 7/26/2013 at 04:53 PM
I love how he paints himself as an 'outsider ' when he's on the stump . Saying the problem is in Washington.

Ummmm, you are Washington, Mr. President.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2013 at 02:26 PM
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There are 9,000,000 fewer jobs in America now than in 2009 yet he's up there talking about creating all these jobs and about a strong recovery?

Nothing "phony" about that, Mr. President.

The job loss number you quote is a total misrepresentation of reality, but I'm sure you already know that. Job loss began to slow as soon as he took office and transitioned to job growth before his first year in office ended. We're now in a stretch of 16 straight months a job growth, something that never happened under the previous administration, despite an obstructionist congress.





[Edited on 7/26/2013 by gondicar]


According to current reports from BLS and the Current Employment Statistics, there were 165,000 new hires for June, but the unemployment level stayed the same. Want to know how? According to several of their charts separations (people quitting or being fired) outpaced the number of people hired back into the system.
Several hundred thousand workers are listed as "involuntary part-time workers" because of cut backs in their hours that made formerly full time employees part time employees (this number is now at 8.2 million employees), which made the hiring of additional part timers available. The result, more workers hired, less money paid out, less benefits given.
There are still over 4.3 million long term unemployed (those out of work more than 27 weeks) and there are an additional 2.6 million "marginally attached" to the workforce (These are the ones who have pretty much given up on looking for work and are fending for themselves.)

On a last note: The average work week is now 34.5 hours for non-farm workers, production and supervisory work week is now 33.7 hours.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2013 at 03:58 PM
The claim of 9 million less jobs now than in 2009 doesn't align with BLS data. I know some other sources claim more than what BLS does, and it would be interesting to see their results. But let's stick with what's been taken from the BLS about total jobs in the US...



Data found here


So, with this information, we can take the same period of the previous graph (1/1/06 to 1/1/12) and say the following...

Jan '06: 135,130 million jobs
Jan '13: 134,839 million jobs

That's 191,000 less jobs available to US workers.

However, if you look at the table, the high point within that period was Jan '08, where there were 138,056 million jobs, or almost 3 million more than the starting point. The biggest decline from that high point occurred on Bush's watch.

But Obama has nothing to crow about. At best, job growth has been statically flat during his terms, and the trend seems stuck on mediocre. However, when considering jobs vs population, things start to get worse.

The U3 jobless number that most of the media (and the administration) focuses on is a highly manipulated estimate. Like many gov't numbers (inflation, COLA, etc) it is designed to improve the perception of govt's performance, not reveal truth. U6 is a better number for understanding overall unemployment (currently at 14.3%), but it is still questionable.

More insight on how well a country is doing comes from the labor participation rate, which measures what percentage of the population is receiving a paycheck. The BLS also measures this, and here's the recent chart...


Data found here


This should be the real concern. As population grows and jobs do not, this measurement keeps going down. It is currently the worst it has been in over 30 years. Funny how you don't find much of the US media pointing that out.

So going back to the chart posted by Gondicar; in '06, US population was had just crossed the 300 million mark. Now, we have about 12 million more people. 12 million more people, 7 years further down the road, 191,000 less jobs. That's the real problem. That's what that idiot Romney should have been running on. That's what the press should be hammering Carney on every day that Obama is out on the campaign/blame trail delivering his limp economic message. So why is this not an outrage?

 

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  posted on 7/27/2013 at 07:38 PM

 

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  posted on 7/27/2013 at 08:08 PM
I think you mean 135,130,000 jobs not 135,130,000,000 jobs. We don't have 135 billion people in the US.
Easy mistake when reading government graphs.

The figure of 9 million jobs lost is from an article by the Economics Policy Institute
( www.epi.org/publication/jobs--deficit-9-million/). They used data from BLS showing that the number of jobs that should have been gained during this period would be 5.8 million, and the net number of jobs lost is 3.2 million, for a total of 9 million.
That doesn't mean we lost 9 million jobs, just that there is a gap of 9 million jobs between what we have now and the projected number based on job growth before the start of the recession.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2013 at 08:48 PM
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I think you mean 135,130,000 jobs not 135,130,000,000 jobs.

You are correct sir!

Another way to express those numbers would have been...

Jan '06: 135.130 million jobs
Jan '13: 134.839 million jobs

Decimals instead of commas.

Man this is a tough board!

 

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  posted on 7/28/2013 at 06:37 PM
I seen an interview with Brian Terry's mother today,and she wanted to know" what exactly was phoney "

 

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  posted on 7/28/2013 at 08:28 PM
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I love how he paints himself as an 'outsider ' when he's on the stump . Saying the problem is in Washington.

Ummmm, you are Washington, Mr. President.


He needs to add "on my watch" to the end of all his statements when he start complaining.

The social fabric is fraying ON MY WATCH. The middle class is struggling ON MY WATCH. Washington is broken ON MY WATCH.....

 

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  posted on 7/29/2013 at 09:05 AM
What kind of watch does he have? Maybe he needs a new one......

 

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  posted on 7/29/2013 at 09:49 AM
I don't know, but if his is broken you can bet it's
all Congresses fault.

 

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  posted on 7/29/2013 at 10:44 AM
Getting it fixed is probably still stuck in fillibuster..................

 

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  posted on 7/29/2013 at 03:22 PM
I'm sure they'll get around to it after their 40th attempt to repeal ObamaCare............

 

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  posted on 7/29/2013 at 04:21 PM

 

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  posted on 7/30/2013 at 01:27 PM
I hear George Zimmerman is changing his name to Ben Ghazi so the administration never mentions his name again.
 

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I hear George Zimmerman is changing his name to Ben Ghazi so the administration never mentions his name again.


I thought it was Ben Dover.

 

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  posted on 7/30/2013 at 11:31 PM
He could change it to George Bush - then it would be like he never existed.......

 

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