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  posted on 8/12/2013 at 10:41 PM
Factoid: During the 20 years from 1988 thru 2008 we had either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House.

Then an eight year time with Obama, not sure what to call that. Barack likes his auto analogies, so let's just say a car sinking in the mud comes to mind...

But now, as the next Election quickly approaches I was struck with the idea that we could end up with another Clinton or Bush in the White House.

Time for some fresh blood.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2013 at 10:42 AM
So, who do you suggest?

Can the GOP actually appeal to enough of the idiot voters to swing an election in their favor?

Hillary would be a much better President than the arrogant jackass occupying the office presently.

The little exercise with Romney/Ryan went so swimmingly maybe they should try something like that again...

 

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So, who do you suggest?

Can the GOP actually appeal to enough of the idiot voters to swing an election in their favor?

Hillary would be a much better President than the arrogant jackass occupying the office presently.

The little exercise with Romney/Ryan went so swimmingly maybe they should try something like that again...


The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.

 

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I suggest and fully support a Bhawk/Fuij ticket for 2016. And gentleman, I offer my services as a campaign worker for the upstate, NY area. I will require a modest salary during the campaign and a political patronage job after you're elected. Something in the economic development area of this new administration would fit me nicely. A position in the Federal Dept. of Labor acting as liaison to the state departments of labor with regard to implementing the Work Force Investment Act. Or the Justice Dept. helping to implement marijuana reform legislation at the federal level and also as a liaison to the states that will be or already have implemented reform at the state level. Agreed?

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by Chain]

 

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  posted on 8/13/2013 at 11:23 AM
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Factoid: During the 20 years from 1988 thru 2008 we had either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House.

Then an eight year time with Obama, not sure what to call that. Barack likes his auto analogies, so let's just say a car sinking in the mud comes to mind...

But now, as the next Election quickly approaches I was struck with the idea that we could end up with another Clinton or Bush in the White House.

Time for some fresh blood.


So, you're saying you would vote for Joe Biden over Jeb Bush if that's what it came down to?

 

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  posted on 8/13/2013 at 11:31 AM
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I suggest and fully support a Bhawk/Fuij ticket for 2016. And gentleman, I offer my services as a campaign worker for the upstate, NY area. I will require a modest salary during the campaign and a political patronage job after you're elected. Something in the economic development area of this new administration would fit me nicely. A position in the Federal Dept. of Labor acting as liaison to the state departments of labor with regard to implementing the Work Force Investment Act. Or the Justice Dept. helping to implement marijuana reform legislation at the federal level and also as a liaison to the states that will be or already have implemented reform at the state level. Agreed?

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by Chain]


You forgot to mention an enormous salary...

 

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Factoid: During the 20 years from 1988 thru 2008 we had either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House.

Then an eight year time with Obama, not sure what to call that. Barack likes his auto analogies, so let's just say a car sinking in the mud comes to mind...

But now, as the next Election quickly approaches I was struck with the idea that we could end up with another Clinton or Bush in the White House.

Time for some fresh blood.


So, you're saying you would vote for Joe Biden over Jeb Bush if that's what it came down to?


The debates would be hysterical without a leash on Joe!

 

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I suggest and fully support a Bhawk/Fuij ticket for 2016. And gentleman, I offer my services as a campaign worker for the upstate, NY area. I will require a modest salary during the campaign and a political patronage job after you're elected. Something in the economic development area of this new administration would fit me nicely. A position in the Federal Dept. of Labor acting as liaison to the state departments of labor with regard to implementing the Work Force Investment Act. Or the Justice Dept. helping to implement marijuana reform legislation at the federal level and also as a liaison to the states that will be or already have implemented reform at the state level. Agreed?

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by Chain]


You forgot to mention an enormous salary...


Not entirely. I mentioned a modest salary during the campaign and then a federal patronage job. Given such a federal gov't job already comes with a fairly sizable salary per Civil Service rules and regulations, we won't even have to haggle over money. We would, of course, have to haggle over exactly what grade my title would be, so that does relate somewhat to salary. Oh, and there's that little background check issue that may arise. But, all things considered, I think we could easily come to terms. For the sake of the nation, of course I'm flexible.

 

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I suggest and fully support a Bhawk/Fuij ticket for 2016. And gentleman, I offer my services as a campaign worker for the upstate, NY area. I will require a modest salary during the campaign and a political patronage job after you're elected. Something in the economic development area of this new administration would fit me nicely. A position in the Federal Dept. of Labor acting as liaison to the state departments of labor with regard to implementing the Work Force Investment Act. Or the Justice Dept. helping to implement marijuana reform legislation at the federal level and also as a liaison to the states that will be or already have implemented reform at the state level. Agreed?

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by Chain]


You forgot to mention an enormous salary...


Not entirely. I mentioned a modest salary during the campaign and then a federal patronage job. Given such a federal gov't job already comes with a fairly sizable salary per Civil Service rules and regulations, we won't even have to haggle over money. We would, of course, have to haggle over exactly what grade my title would be, so that does relate somewhat to salary. Oh, and there's that little background check issue that may arise. But, all things considered, I think we could easily come to terms. For the sake of the nation, of course I'm flexible.


But not modest! Shoot for the moon.

No problem with the background check, after all, Geithner was confirmed as Sec of the Treasury!

 

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The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.


How about they zero in on one demographic -- AMERICANS -- and go from there.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2013 at 12:01 PM
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I suggest and fully support a Bhawk/Fuij ticket for 2016. And gentleman, I offer my services as a campaign worker for the upstate, NY area. I will require a modest salary during the campaign and a political patronage job after you're elected. Something in the economic development area of this new administration would fit me nicely. A position in the Federal Dept. of Labor acting as liaison to the state departments of labor with regard to implementing the Work Force Investment Act. Or the Justice Dept. helping to implement marijuana reform legislation at the federal level and also as a liaison to the states that will be or already have implemented reform at the state level. Agreed?

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by Chain]


I'd support that ticket.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2013 at 12:04 PM
Think I'll vote green party.
 

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I suggest and fully support a Bhawk/Fuij ticket for 2016. And gentleman, I offer my services as a campaign worker for the upstate, NY area. I will require a modest salary during the campaign and a political patronage job after you're elected. Something in the economic development area of this new administration would fit me nicely. A position in the Federal Dept. of Labor acting as liaison to the state departments of labor with regard to implementing the Work Force Investment Act. Or the Justice Dept. helping to implement marijuana reform legislation at the federal level and also as a liaison to the states that will be or already have implemented reform at the state level. Agreed?

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by Chain]


You forgot to mention an enormous salary...


Not entirely. I mentioned a modest salary during the campaign and then a federal patronage job. Given such a federal gov't job already comes with a fairly sizable salary per Civil Service rules and regulations, we won't even have to haggle over money. We would, of course, have to haggle over exactly what grade my title would be, so that does relate somewhat to salary. Oh, and there's that little background check issue that may arise. But, all things considered, I think we could easily come to terms. For the sake of the nation, of course I'm flexible.


But not modest! Shoot for the moon.

No problem with the background check, after all, Geithner was confirmed as Sec of the Treasury!


For the good of the campaign, and ultimately the chance at a federal gov't patronage job, I decided upon a modest salary. However, what I think is modest might be exorbitant to Bhawk and Fuij. Or vice versa. But I'm looking at the big picture and view the federal gig as the mother lode.

Maybe a book after it's all over too. Self published of course wherein I spill all the beans about how horrific the working conditions were on the campaign. The constant sexual harassment, drug use, cash kickbacks, campaign rules violations, etc., etc. The success of the book will lead to a major motion picture of which I'll negotiate 15% of net profit....The book and movie will basically be my severance package. Meanwhile, Bhawk and Fuij will be re-elected to a second term and I'll ride off into the sunset with my multi million dollar fortune in tow. It's the American dream....



 

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I suggest and fully support a Bhawk/Fuij ticket for 2016. And gentleman, I offer my services as a campaign worker for the upstate, NY area. I will require a modest salary during the campaign and a political patronage job after you're elected. Something in the economic development area of this new administration would fit me nicely. A position in the Federal Dept. of Labor acting as liaison to the state departments of labor with regard to implementing the Work Force Investment Act. Or the Justice Dept. helping to implement marijuana reform legislation at the federal level and also as a liaison to the states that will be or already have implemented reform at the state level. Agreed?

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by Chain]



You forgot to mention an enormous salary...


Not entirely. I mentioned a modest salary during the campaign and then a federal patronage job. Given such a federal gov't job already comes with a fairly sizable salary per Civil Service rules and regulations, we won't even have to haggle over money. We would, of course, have to haggle over exactly what grade my title would be, so that does relate somewhat to salary. Oh, and there's that little background check issue that may arise. But, all things considered, I think we could easily come to terms. For the sake of the nation, of course I'm flexible.


But not modest! Shoot for the moon.

No problem with the background check, after all, Geithner was confirmed as Sec of the Treasury!


For the good of the campaign, and ultimately the chance at a federal gov't patronage job, I decided upon a modest salary. However, what I think is modest might be exorbitant to Bhawk and Fuij. Or vice versa. But I'm looking at the big picture and view the federal gig as the mother lode.

Maybe a book after it's all over too. Self published of course wherein I spill all the beans about how horrific the working conditions were on the campaign. The constant sexual harassment, drug use, cash kickbacks, campaign rules violations, etc., etc. The success of the book will lead to a major motion picture of which I'll negotiate 15% of net profit....The book and movie will basically be my severance package. Meanwhile, Bhawk and Fuij will be re-elected to a second term and I'll ride off into the sunset with my multi million dollar fortune in tow. It's the American dream....





Weiner for tech advisor.

 

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I suggest and fully support a Bhawk/Fuij ticket for 2016. And gentleman, I offer my services as a campaign worker for the upstate, NY area. I will require a modest salary during the campaign and a political patronage job after you're elected. Something in the economic development area of this new administration would fit me nicely. A position in the Federal Dept. of Labor acting as liaison to the state departments of labor with regard to implementing the Work Force Investment Act. Or the Justice Dept. helping to implement marijuana reform legislation at the federal level and also as a liaison to the states that will be or already have implemented reform at the state level. Agreed?

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by Chain]


Hmm...Good idea. Just think of the free publicity. Also, such an appointment could represent a very comical chapter in my later to be published book. Think of the possibilities, Alan....Maybe I'll paint Weiner in a very bad way (if that's possible at this point), thus leading to a law suit by Weiner over what I published...more publicity..and thus, potentially more book sales. Cha ching!


You forgot to mention an enormous salary...


Not entirely. I mentioned a modest salary during the campaign and then a federal patronage job. Given such a federal gov't job already comes with a fairly sizable salary per Civil Service rules and regulations, we won't even have to haggle over money. We would, of course, have to haggle over exactly what grade my title would be, so that does relate somewhat to salary. Oh, and there's that little background check issue that may arise. But, all things considered, I think we could easily come to terms. For the sake of the nation, of course I'm flexible.


But not modest! Shoot for the moon.

No problem with the background check, after all, Geithner was confirmed as Sec of the Treasury!


For the good of the campaign, and ultimately the chance at a federal gov't patronage job, I decided upon a modest salary. However, what I think is modest might be exorbitant to Bhawk and Fuij. Or vice versa. But I'm looking at the big picture and view the federal gig as the mother lode.

Maybe a book after it's all over too. Self published of course wherein I spill all the beans about how horrific the working conditions were on the campaign. The constant sexual harassment, drug use, cash kickbacks, campaign rules violations, etc., etc. The success of the book will lead to a major motion picture of which I'll negotiate 15% of net profit....The book and movie will basically be my severance package. Meanwhile, Bhawk and Fuij will be re-elected to a second term and I'll ride off into the sunset with my multi million dollar fortune in tow. It's the American dream....





Weiner for tech advisor.


 

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  posted on 8/13/2013 at 12:27 PM
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The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.


How about they zero in on one demographic -- AMERICANS -- and go from there.


That makes way too much sense. Politicians like to divide. They don't, 'get it' and I am afraid with a few exceptions that they ever will. Sad indeed.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2013 at 12:41 PM
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Factoid: During the 20 years from 1988 thru 2008 we had either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House.

Then an eight year time with Obama, not sure what to call that. Barack likes his auto analogies, so let's just say a car sinking in the mud comes to mind...

But now, as the next Election quickly approaches I was struck with the idea that we could end up with another Clinton or Bush in the White House.

Time for some fresh blood.


You want fresh blood then tell the Republicans to not run out another posse of jack @ss clowns who say all kinds of incredibly stupid things during their campaigns and in debates.

Personally, I think if Clinton runs she wins regardless of who the Republicans allow to win their primaries. The Republicans have completely turned off black, Latino, and women voters over the last few years and it doesn't look like they are doing anything to change that. Most Obama supporters many Independent like myself have also been completely turned off to the Republican party for the way they have gone about their business with all of the obstruction even on issues they used to support. Even if they were to allow Christie to get nominated which they won't he would have an extremely difficult time defeating Hillary Clinton in a general election unless he finds a way to curb his bullying style which will be a huge turnoff during a Presidential campaign.

[Edited on 8/13/2013 by sixty8]

 

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Factoid: During the 20 years from 1988 thru 2008 we had either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House.

Then an eight year time with Obama, not sure what to call that. Barack likes his auto analogies, so let's just say a car sinking in the mud comes to mind...

But now, as the next Election quickly approaches I was struck with the idea that we could end up with another Clinton or Bush in the White House.

Time for some fresh blood.


So, you're saying you would vote for Joe Biden over Jeb Bush if that's what it came down to?


LOL!!!

 

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The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.


How about they zero in on one demographic -- AMERICANS -- and go from there.


That makes way too much sense. Politicians like to divide. They don't, 'get it' and I am afraid with a few exceptions that they ever will. Sad indeed.


When the Republicans shoot down any and every piece of legislation and oppose so many issues that would positively effect a large portion of AMERICANS, those AMERICANS tend to vote for the other party. The Republicans have shunned and pi$$ed off a large percentage of those AMERICANS so that large percentage of AMERICANS which are an ever growing part of the demographics in our country aren't likely to vote for their party plain and simple. This was quite evident in the last election and those demographics continue to grow. Instead of learning their lesson and changing or adjusting their ideologies to try to win over some of those demographics they have doubled down and dug in. If they are gonna be that stubborn and can't understand what the majority want then they deserve to lose again and again and again.

So yeah, all candidates should concentrate on AMERICAN demographics and all of the different groups of people that make up those demographics.

 

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The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.


How about they zero in on one demographic -- AMERICANS -- and go from there.


That makes way too much sense. Politicians like to divide. They don't, 'get it' and I am afraid with a few exceptions that they ever will. Sad indeed.


Right? And you have to wonder how these victimized groups continue to fall for it. How many times are they any better off at the end of four more years? I'd say rarely or never.

 

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The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.


How about they zero in on one demographic -- AMERICANS -- and go from there.


That makes way too much sense. Politicians like to divide. They don't, 'get it' and I am afraid with a few exceptions that they ever will. Sad indeed.


When the Republicans shoot down any and every piece of legislation and oppose so many issues that would positively effect a large portion of AMERICANS, those AMERICANS tend to vote for the other party. The Republicans have shunned and pi$$ed off a large percentage of those AMERICANS so that large percentage of AMERICANS which are an ever growing part of the demographics in our country aren't likely to vote for their party plain and simple. This was quite evident in the last election and those demographics continue to grow. Instead of learning their lesson and changing or adjusting their ideologies to try to win over some of those demographics they have doubled down and dug in. If they are gonna be that stubborn and can't understand what the majority want then they deserve to lose again and again and again.

So yeah, all candidates should concentrate on AMERICAN demographics and all of the different groups of people that make up those demographics.


It's always amusing to see Democrats counseling and advising the Republicans on what they need to do. Invariably, the advice seems to center around acting more like Democrats and then they'll have a chance...

Sorry, no.

Perhaps your time would be better spent worrying about how and why the Democrats are losing white voters in droves. What are they doing to change that?

 

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The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.


How about they zero in on one demographic -- AMERICANS -- and go from there.


That makes way too much sense. Politicians like to divide. They don't, 'get it' and I am afraid with a few exceptions that they ever will. Sad indeed.


Right? And you have to wonder how these victimized groups continue to fall for it. How many times are they any better off at the end of four more years? I'd say rarely or never.


I know. And when Obama gets credit for the poor getting free phones that were actually authorized under George Bush, what chance do the GOP have really?

 

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The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.


How about they zero in on one demographic -- AMERICANS -- and go from there.


That makes way too much sense. Politicians like to divide. They don't, 'get it' and I am afraid with a few exceptions that they ever will. Sad indeed.


When the Republicans shoot down any and every piece of legislation and oppose so many issues that would positively effect a large portion of AMERICANS, those AMERICANS tend to vote for the other party. The Republicans have shunned and pi$$ed off a large percentage of those AMERICANS so that large percentage of AMERICANS which are an ever growing part of the demographics in our country aren't likely to vote for their party plain and simple. This was quite evident in the last election and those demographics continue to grow. Instead of learning their lesson and changing or adjusting their ideologies to try to win over some of those demographics they have doubled down and dug in. If they are gonna be that stubborn and can't understand what the majority want then they deserve to lose again and again and again.

So yeah, all candidates should concentrate on AMERICAN demographics and all of the different groups of people that make up those demographics.


It's always amusing to see Democrats counseling and advising the Republicans on what they need to do. Invariably, the advice seems to center around acting more like Democrats and then they'll have a chance...

Sorry, no.

Perhaps your time would be better spent worrying about how and why the Democrats are losing white voters in droves. What are they doing to change that?



Running Hillary................

 

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The voting base has changed dramatically in the last ten years or so. As long as the Republicans alienate the minority base, most notably, the latin base and refuse to embrace more open-minded concepts......they will be toast. And they should be.


How about they zero in on one demographic -- AMERICANS -- and go from there.


That makes way too much sense. Politicians like to divide. They don't, 'get it' and I am afraid with a few exceptions that they ever will. Sad indeed.


When the Republicans shoot down any and every piece of legislation and oppose so many issues that would positively effect a large portion of AMERICANS, those AMERICANS tend to vote for the other party. The Republicans have shunned and pi$$ed off a large percentage of those AMERICANS so that large percentage of AMERICANS which are an ever growing part of the demographics in our country aren't likely to vote for their party plain and simple. This was quite evident in the last election and those demographics continue to grow. Instead of learning their lesson and changing or adjusting their ideologies to try to win over some of those demographics they have doubled down and dug in. If they are gonna be that stubborn and can't understand what the majority want then they deserve to lose again and again and again.

So yeah, all candidates should concentrate on AMERICAN demographics and all of the different groups of people that make up those demographics.


It's always amusing to see Democrats counseling and advising the Republicans on what they need to do. Invariably, the advice seems to center around acting more like Democrats and then they'll have a chance...

Sorry, no.

Perhaps your time would be better spent worrying about how and why the Democrats are losing white voters in droves. What are they doing to change that?



Running Hillary................


Wow. All this time I've been told that the candidate doesn't matter - it's policies that are turning people off.

Until now.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2013 at 02:01 PM
It was kinda funny...

 

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