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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 10:03 AM
So let me get this straight.It's okay to make life sized puppet's of Bush,hang them upside down and set fire to em,to display a crucifix upside down in a picture frame filled with human urine,okay for a govt official to say Charles Shumar would be the first in line to put a bullet between the president's eye's(referring to Bush)ALL IN THE NAME OF FREE SPEECH.But it's not okay for a rodeo clown to put on an Obama mask & say "how many want the bull to run him over?Add to that the NAACP now has stepped in and say they want a full investigation.
And just why all this uproar from the left,NAACP etc about a mask and a rodeo clown?Cause their friggin scared,that's why.And how many here are gonna come out and say the reason is this,that and so forth?It's called FREE SPEECH folk's.
Ya wanna support gay marriage right's,abortion right's,animal rights and so on,FINE,that's your right and i respect that.And ya wanna say that it's okay to burn puppet's of Bush.And that homosexual's and lesiban's have a right to adopt chilldren.And that black's have a right to riot,beat up people etc,cause they don't agree with the Zimmerman verdict.Well i think this rodeo clown has a right to put a mask of Bush,Obama,Madona,or Gregg Allman for that matter,stick their head up their as* and blow bubble's if they so choose.
This hand's off Obama is Bullsh*t!I hope folk's all across the nation and in the rodeo business stand up,fight and refuse to be bullied by the leftist agenda.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 10:27 AM
Different Rules for the left.
It really is that simple.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 11:41 AM
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Different Rules for the left.
It really is that simple.


Ditto that. May as well get used to it.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 12:35 PM
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Different Rules for the left.
It really is that simple.


Many Missouri Republicans have spoken out against the incident. Care to comment?

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 12:35 PM
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Ditto that. May as well get used to it.


Many Missouri Republicans have spoken out against the incident. Care to comment?

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 12:40 PM






[Edited on 8/14/2013 by alanwoods]

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 12:48 PM
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Ditto that. May as well get used to it.


Many Missouri Republicans have spoken out against the incident. Care to comment?


Sure. I think is was wrong to imply or implore the bull to run over The President. That's going too far. The rest of it is a mountain over a molehill and par for the course. All Presidents are subject to this sort of thing.

 

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I think saying "We're gonna smoke Obama" went a little too far.

I can only find that the Lt. Gov tweeted his displeasure with the stunt.

Presidents have long been comedic material while still in office. But, it seems that this one is untouchable for some reason.

W. was depicted as a monkey while in office.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 01:02 PM
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Exactly, same old double standard....It's ok to have mask of and make down right rude statements about any of the 43 other potus, but not the 44th.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 01:06 PM
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2534213

"Of course the Missouri State Fair can do what it wants, but the lifetime ban seems excessive. Any president comes in for a fair amount of public mockery, and what happened at the State Fair does not seem worse than the mockery of the president that occurred — without consequences like lifetime bans — during George W. Bush’s years in the White House. It’s not necessary to recite all the insults, threats, and other offenses directed at Bush during his presidency; if you were awake during those years, you know there were a lot of them. But perhaps it would be useful to list a few, and ask whether they resulted in punishment and professional exile for those involved.

As far as disrespect and ridicule are concerned, in 2007, TV newswoman Erin Burnett, who then worked for MSNBC, repeatedly referred to Bush as a “monkey” during a report on an economic summit. Burnett, who later apologized, was not banned from television; she is now a prime-time anchor on CNN."

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 01:09 PM
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I think saying "We're gonna smoke Obama" went a little too far.

I can only find that the Lt. Gov tweeted his displeasure with the stunt.

Presidents have long been comedic material while still in office. But, it seems that this one is untouchable for some reason.

W. was depicted as a monkey while in office.


There were plenty of people that didn't like the way W was depicted or referred to. Hell, to this day there is no shortage of people that will speak up to defend him.

This isn't a "free speech" issue. Free speech cuts both ways. Many people seem to forget that when it suits them, IMO.

As to the rodeo clown, it may or may not surprise you that I personally don't see the big deal about it, but I understand both sides of it.

 

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I don't see the big deal about it, either, but it is turning into a circus (rodeo?) due to those who want to make it a racist act.

I don't think that there was a racist component to it, unless the clown overtly made it so. It was a stunt, albeit ill-advised.

I don't think it would have been an issue were the clown wearing a Clinton mask during his tenure.

That's my two cents.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 01:37 PM
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"Of course the Missouri State Fair can do what it wants, but the lifetime ban seems excessive. Any president comes in for a fair amount of public mockery, and what happened at the State Fair does not seem worse than the mockery of the president that occurred — without consequences like lifetime bans — during George W. Bush’s years in the White House. It’s not necessary to recite all the insults, threats, and other offenses directed at Bush during his presidency; if you were awake during those years, you know there were a lot of them. But perhaps it would be useful to list a few, and ask whether they resulted in punishment and professional exile for those involved.

As far as disrespect and ridicule are concerned, in 2007, TV newswoman Erin Burnett, who then worked for MSNBC, repeatedly referred to Bush as a “monkey” during a report on an economic summit. Burnett, who later apologized, was not banned from television; she is now a prime-time anchor on CNN."




Had Bush happened to be black, however, she would face a lifetime ban.

 

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It's over the top to talk about wanting to "smoke" the president. It was wrong when opponents of Bush did it and its wrong now. It is NOT racial however. The idea that anyone who dislikes this president or even says inappropriate things about him is racially motivated is ridiculous. I remember back in 1993 when David Dinkins, the brutally ineffective mayor of New York was running for re-election against Rudolph Guliani. President Clinton came to town to campaign for Dinkins and made the statement that he can't imagine anyone voting against Dinkins unless it was motivated by race. Really Bill? Although I voted for him and continued to support him, including voting for him in 1996, that statement really put me off.

 

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The idea that anyone who dislikes this president or even says inappropriate things about him is racially motivated is ridiculous.


There is no race-based criticism of the President anywhere in America?

C'mon, now. While there is ultimately no way to accurately measure it, it defies logic to conclude there is none.

I've got a brother-in-law that says things like "What do you expect with a n----- in the White House?" on a fairly regular basis. He's a taxpaying, law-abiding citizen just like you or me. Is he the only one in America that's the outlier?

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 02:02 PM
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Presidents have long been comedic material while still in office. But, it seems that this one is untouchable for some reason.

W. was depicted as a monkey while in office.

Obama has been depitced as a lot of nasty things while in office. In fact, when you include all the racially-charged epithets it would not surprise me if he's been the subject of more hateful deptictions and caricatures than any president before him (I'll spare posting them here, but you can fill your screen with them in just a couple of clicks if you want). Some of it is unprecenteded...has any other president had a state of the union address interrupted by a sitting member of congress shouting "LIAR" at him? It has been going on since the moment he was sworn in, and the vast majority of the time it is ignored. So let's just stop with the double standard BS.

This incident clearly went beyond the norm for some people..including the event organizers, the rodeo clown bosses, politicians from both sides of the aisle, and at least one audience member that thought it was racist and likened the entire thing to a KKK rally.

Regarding whether it would be an issue if it were a Clinton mask, I don't diagree. Social media and the fact that nearly everyone has a video camera on them at all times has changed the game for things like this. When Clinton was president, and even for much of W's presidency, one photo or video from an average person could not circulate the globe and be seen by thousands if not millions in a matter or minutes or hours. And the fact the Obama is black creates a very different dynamic to how this stuff gets reacted to...if this were a post-racial society that would not be an issue, but we clearly are not there yet.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 02:17 PM
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W. was depicted as a monkey while in office.


Only because they ran out of weasel and rat masks.

 

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Presidents have long been comedic material while still in office. But, it seems that this one is untouchable for some reason.

W. was depicted as a monkey while in office.

Obama has been depitced as a lot of nasty things while in office. In fact, when you include all the racially-charged epithets it would not surprise me if he's been the subject of more hateful deptictions and caricatures than any president before him (I'll spare posting them here, but you can fill your screen with them in just a couple of clicks if you want). Some of it is unprecenteded...has any other president had a state of the union address interrupted by a sitting member of congress shouting "LIAR" at him? It has been going on since the moment he was sworn in, and the vast majority of the time it is ignored. So let's just stop with the double standard BS.

This incident clearly went beyond the norm for some people..including the event organizers, the rodeo clown bosses, politicians from both sides of the aisle, and at least one audience member that thought it was racist and likened the entire thing to a KKK rally.

Regarding whether it would be an issue if it were a Clinton mask, I don't diagree. Social media and the fact that nearly everyone has a video camera on them at all times has changed the game for things like this. When Clinton was president, and even for much of W's presidency, one photo or video from an average person could not circulate the globe and be seen by thousands if not millions in a matter or minutes or hours. And the fact the Obama is black creates a very different dynamic to how this stuff gets reacted to...if this were a post-racial society that would not be an issue, but we clearly are not there yet.


Oh no, please post them, but make sure they are from main stream media outlets, not some bigot's blog. We just disagree on this one.

I got my first computer and was accessing the web as early as 1995, and using it as a large component of my news sources. And, if you don't remember, the Lewinsky debacle started on the web and spread rather quickly.

I have seen an interview from one fan. One. And, he had an asian wife and guest with him. You can have one outraged attendee at any event with more than a dozen people.

I'm not denying racist hatred against Obama doesn't exist, as I have heard similar things as Hawk cited numerous times, but not every incident that occurs has to be depicted as being such.


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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 02:47 PM
I don't really see the big deal either. I'm sure the fair did or would have hired a comedian that could have been critical of the president (as long as it wasn't threatening or going too far) and that would have been ok. This shouldn't be any different. Making fun of politicians is and always has been in the entertainment industry, whether in music, comedy or whatever, and this should be allowed. I do have to say, however, that entertainers do need to remember that they are working for someone else and what the entertainer says/does may at times be interpreted as the employer agreeing with them, but if there is a no political satire policy that should be communicated to performers up front and it should be handled evenly.
 

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If one watches the performance and concludes that it was incredibly stupid no matter who they were making fun of, then there is that...

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 03:08 PM
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If one watches the performance and concludes that it was incredibly stupid no matter who they were making fun of, then there is that...


Yup, rather corny.

 

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http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2534213

"Of course the Missouri State Fair can do what it wants, but the lifetime ban seems excessive. Any president comes in for a fair amount of public mockery, and what happened at the State Fair does not seem worse than the mockery of the president that occurred — without consequences like lifetime bans — during George W. Bush’s years in the White House. It’s not necessary to recite all the insults, threats, and other offenses directed at Bush during his presidency; if you were awake during those years, you know there were a lot of them. But perhaps it would be useful to list a few, and ask whether they resulted in punishment and professional exile for those involved.

As far as disrespect and ridicule are concerned, in 2007, TV newswoman Erin Burnett, who then worked for MSNBC, repeatedly referred to Bush as a “monkey” during a report on an economic summit. Burnett, who later apologized, was not banned from television; she is now a prime-time anchor on CNN."




Had Bush happened to be black, however, she would face a lifetime ban.


Of course she would have, because even if it weren't racial it sure could have and would have been taken that way by many. I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers the flack that Howard Cosell took for his on-air monkey comment about a player who happened to be black? I don't think he was a racist, but the way some reacted you'd think he was a grand wizard of the KKK...and that was 30 years ago. How do you think that comment would play out if said on air during an NFL or major college game by a white announcer about a black player today, even if it wasn't intended as racist?

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Oh no, please post them, but make sure they are from main stream media outlets, not some bigot's blog. We just disagree on this one.


I will give you the one example that I think sums up what has constantly been directed Obama's way, created and distributed by a GOP group in California during the 2008 campaign...

 

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  posted on 8/14/2013 at 04:21 PM
First time I have ever seen that. California?

And was this group directly affiliated with or funded by the Republican Party? I seriously doubt it.

 

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