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  posted on 11/1/2013 at 06:46 PM


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  posted on 11/1/2013 at 07:11 PM
He is the man!!

 

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  posted on 11/3/2013 at 03:34 PM


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  posted on 11/3/2013 at 08:01 PM
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Mittens says Christie could save the GOP ... you can't make this stuff up. I hope America is smarter than this, but I don't have faith in that happening.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/11/03/romney-says-christie-could-save-go p/?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

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I don't think that the GOP realizes that it needs saving. Things are hunky dorry for them. Good thing they Gerrymandered the House so much that they believe they are still relevent.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 11:16 AM
Changing demographics and social issues didn't do much to hinder Christie last night.
 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 11:24 AM
I find the guy and the conversations surrounding him incredibly fascinating at this point in time. There's a lot to talk about. Because of his personality and the way he does things, reporters just love him, so we'll be hearing plenty about him.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 12:43 PM
He's actually quite conservative just as Reagan was. The trick for a national candidate is not to mirror the precise views of the electorate but to project an imaje that is broadly appealing.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 12:57 PM
He is not nearly as moderate as some make him out to be. However, he is head and shoulders above the rest of the clown lineup that we have seen offered up by the GOP the last couple of times around. The clowns that led to all of the Republicans boogy man being elected twice even when all Republicans were soooooooooo sure that Obama couldn't and wouldn't win a second term. He was ripe for the taking and the GOP f_cked it up and I bet they will f_ck it up again by not nominating Christie instead either going with another fruit loop or someone that they force to flip and change into a fruit loop.(see McCain and Romney) With Christie they would have a punchers chance to beat Clinton if they could get him to tone down his nasty side which will not go over well in debates if he somehow gets the GOP nomination. I still have my doubts as if he could win but he has a far better chance than any of the other extremist crazies that the GOP keep rolling out every 4 years.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 01:03 PM
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He is not nearly as moderate as some make him out to be.


Moderate seems to be somewhat relative to audience. To some members of the left he will be seen as a wolf in sheep's clothing who is pandering. To some members of the right he will be seen as just another RINO. His primary opponents will have a field day with the pics of him and Obama.

There will also be the inevitable discussions about his weight, which will bring things down to the slime gutter yet again.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 01:19 PM
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I don't think that the GOP realizes that it needs saving. Things are hunky dorry for them. Good thing they Gerrymandered the House so much that they believe they are still relevent.


Too bad the Democrats continue to allow this to happen. Here in Virginia the State elections were swept by Democrats. Yet the Republican State Delegate in my district ran unopposed. The State Delegates are the guys who draw the districts.

For the Democrats to let this guy sail back into office almost makes me think the two parties knowingly divide the pie. Sort of like parity in the NFL.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 01:20 PM
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The clowns that led to all of the Republicans boogy man being elected twice even when all Republicans were soooooooooo sure that Obama couldn't and wouldn't win a second term.

I still have my doubts as if he could win but he has a far better chance than any of the other extremist crazies that the GOP keep rolling out every 4 years.


1. I don't know where you get this from, but just speaking for myself, I was pretty certain Obama would win again. Too many feeders and low-info voters against a weak moderate candidate running a feeble campaign. I was surprised the popular vote was as close as it was, but...

2. Again, this is mystifying. McSame and Romney "extremist crazies?" Try a couple of bore-you-to-tears moderates.

 

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Pot? Kettle?

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 01:41 PM
We need jpb in here to tell us what a fascist socialist Romney was for forcing healthcare on his state.....

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 01:53 PM
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Pot? Kettle?


Try me.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 03:09 PM
A agree that Christie is not as moderate as many believe him to be, but he also may be too moderate to get his party nomination. What many like about Christie is that he does not seem to be hung up on ideology and seems practical. He calls things the way he sees them and is willing to give credit to someone in the other party when deserved or call out members of his own party. I view that as something different than we have had for a long time, and it is really something we need right now. Would I vote for him? I don't know at this point, but he is the only Republican I can think of that I would consider at this point. It would depend on who he runs against.
 

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  posted on 11/6/2013 at 11:19 PM
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A agree that Christie is not as moderate as many believe him to be, but he also may be too moderate to get his party nomination. What many like about Christie is that he does not seem to be hung up on ideology and seems practical. He calls things the way he sees them and is willing to give credit to someone in the other party when deserved or call out members of his own party. I view that as something different than we have had for a long time, and it is really something we need right now. Would I vote for him? I don't know at this point, but he is the only Republican I can think of that I would consider at this point. It would depend on who he runs against.





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  posted on 11/7/2013 at 02:25 AM
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Again, this is mystifying. McSame and Romney "extremist crazies?" Try a couple of bore-you-to-tears moderates.
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No, they fall under the forced to flip all of their ideologies to the extreme right to get nominated category. Each of them, especially McCain would have had a much better chance of winning had they been allowed to run as themselves and on their actual un flipped ideologies. Of course McCain had to also deal with the un vetted disaster of a hack running mate pick they forced on him.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2013 at 06:21 AM
Christies morbidly obese carcass will never make it out of the primaries in tact. After all he said Obama did a great job during the hurricane Sandy aftermath so the bat crap nuts southern Teabaggers will rip him to shreds.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2013 at 09:02 AM
Probably the best chance of getting more than the solid red vote, but will get eaten up by the far right in the primary process. Appealing to NJ dems is a lot different than southern state conservatives & Tea Party types.

Here’s a little tidbit I find interesting. In the recent special election to fill the senate seat of deceased Frank Lautenberg, it appears the gov. chose a special election 3 weeks prior to Nov. 5. He could have used the normal election day to have this election where Cory Booker won the seat. Guess CC wanted the day to be his and didn't mind the big $$$ spent in NJ for a special election.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/10/barbara_buono_radio_interview. html

 

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  posted on 11/8/2013 at 02:39 PM
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He is not nearly as moderate as some make him out to be.


Moderate seems to be somewhat relative to audience. To some members of the left he will be seen as a wolf in sheep's clothing who is pandering. To some members of the right he will be seen as just another RINO. His primary opponents will have a field day with the pics of him and Obama.

There will also be the inevitable discussions about his weight, which will bring things down to the slime gutter yet again.


Yes, I'm quoting myself for none other than self-serving bragging about the above prediction.

Time magazine is already catching hell for their "Elephant in the Room" cover. Clever use of a cliche or a lame fat guy joke? Both? Neither?

Dammit, this is important stuff.

 

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  posted on 11/8/2013 at 03:11 PM
A week or 2 after Sandy, I predicted Christie would be the President in 2016. I also backtracked soon after when I realized the GOP is too dumb to support him for the nomination. If they had any clue at all, they would support every word out of his mouth. He has my vote because he will persuade both sides to make compromises, instead of the mess we have now. As conservative as he may be, he doesn't force his own opinion on his state. He opposes gay marraige, but also said it was up to the people of NJ to vote for it. When the peopel voted in its favor, he obliged. I have no problem with that. Whatever you want to label him, things will finally get done in Washington with him in office.
 

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  posted on 11/8/2013 at 04:37 PM
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A week or 2 after Sandy, I predicted Christie would be the President in 2016. I also backtracked soon after when I realized the GOP is too dumb to support him for the nomination. If they had any clue at all, they would support every word out of his mouth. He has my vote because he will persuade both sides to make compromises, instead of the mess we have now. As conservative as he may be, he doesn't force his own opinion on his state. He opposes gay marraige, but also said it was up to the people of NJ to vote for it. When the peopel voted in its favor, he obliged. I have no problem with that. Whatever you want to label him, things will finally get done in Washington with him in office.


I do believe he & maybe Jeb Bush are the only GOP candidates out there with any chance of winning a national election. There are still things in his record that are questionable. As time moves forward, & if it appears he is leader of the pack, his brethren will trash him. Just look at the responses of Cruz, Perry, & Paul after CC won NJ a 2nd time. None of the responses were what could be interpreted to congratulating a fellow member of the party for winning a blue state. And winning a blue state does not translate to his persona and Mr. Sandy gaining the support of the southern red states.

I believe the persona thing & media appeal is a positive for him - at least right now. Down the road when he hits the trail & has to compete on the same stage with the far righties, it will be interesting to see 1) how much more his message moves to the right, 2) how brash he will be toward the other GOP candidates, 3) how he plays to the primary voters, and 4) how the right wing media perceives & backs him. Hannity went after him the other night. That was quite interesting to see.

 

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  posted on 11/8/2013 at 05:13 PM
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A week or 2 after Sandy, I predicted Christie would be the President in 2016. I also backtracked soon after when I realized the GOP is too dumb to support him for the nomination. If they had any clue at all, they would support every word out of his mouth. He has my vote because he will persuade both sides to make compromises, instead of the mess we have now. As conservative as he may be, he doesn't force his own opinion on his state. He opposes gay marraige, but also said it was up to the people of NJ to vote for it. When the peopel voted in its favor, he obliged. I have no problem with that. Whatever you want to label him, things will finally get done in Washington with him in office.


Of course, you mean by compromising to get things "done" means back to the GOP acting like Democrats and caving in to what they want. Compromise -- DC style!





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Of course, you mean by compromising to get things "done" means back to the GOP acting like Democrats and caving in to what they want. Compromise -- DC style!


There's something seriously wrong when someone can oppose compromise. Isn't that what democracy is really about? Why should it be either fully left or fully right? Compromises get results and make people happy...god forbid!

 

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Of course, you mean by compromising to get things "done" means back to the GOP acting like Democrats and caving in to what they want. Compromise -- DC style!


There's something seriously wrong when someone can oppose compromise. Isn't that what democracy is really about? Why should it be either fully left or fully right? Compromises get results and make people happy...god forbid!


Compromising on how the government should do less, reign itself in, spend less is fine by me. Somehow I feel the Democrats won't be too jazzed up about that kind of compromise.

 
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