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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 05:53 AM
An Expansive The 1971 Fillmore East Recordings Featuring The Allman Brothers Band To Arrive In July
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By MARowe on 22 April, 2014 at 6:15 AM
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The Allman Brothers Band has attained a clarity that few Rock bands can lay claim to, a clarity that has lovingly brought them into the hearts of many fans. Over their years, they have endured catastrophe with the deaths of Duane Allman, and in a similar mishap, of Berry Oakley, both just a year apart from each other. But they have also produced some important live albums including the partial live set, Eat A Peach, and the magnificent At Fillmore East.
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At Fillmore East documented the final shows of the legendary Fillmore East featuring the three night stands in March of 1971 by The Allman Brothers Band. Hailed by many as one of the best live albums ever made, the album helped the band achieve a massive fame that they still hold to this day.
On July 29, Mercury Records (the original albums were released on Capricorn Records) will revisit the shows with The 1971 Fillmore East Recordings. With not too much info to go on, there will be a CD issue, along with a 4LP set, and the usual DD of the title.
As more info becomes available, I will be sure to provide the details in an update.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 09:29 AM
A 4 LP set wouldn't leave much room for unreleased material given that LAFE is 2 LPs and Mountain Jam is 1 LP.
 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 10:08 AM
Is there really anything else left to release?


 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 10:21 AM
And why?

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 10:47 AM
The final shows were not in March 1971, rather were in June of 71.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 01:15 PM
"The final shows were not in March 1971, rather were in June of 71."

But if what they have are only March '71 shows...that's what we'll get

My guess is that the narrative will be made to fit whatever music is released.

Who knows it may change our view of history ( sarcasm intended).

Or rather, consist of product that they have available....with well written accolades for the performances.

In the end it will be great music.....which is what counts.

I for one will be studying the eventual setlist to make sure I don't already own this music in one of the many editions of LAFE or EAP that I have purchased since the early seventies

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 02:02 PM
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Is there really anything else left to release?




Really? Do some research on those nights in March at The Fillmore and see what you find.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 02:05 PM
quote:
"The final shows were not in March 1971, rather were in June of 71."

But if what they have are only March '71 shows...that's what we'll get

My guess is that the narrative will be made to fit whatever music is released.

Who knows it may change our view of history ( sarcasm intended).

Or rather, consist of product that they have available....with well written accolades for the performances.

In the end it will be great music.....which is what counts.

I for one will be studying the eventual setlist to make sure I don't already own this music in one of the many editions of LAFE or EAP that I have purchased since the early seventies


Again, really? We already have the last show of The Fillmore East per trading and the Deluxe issue of EAP. And I don't believe they would put out another version of Live at The Fillmore East without some of the unreleased versions from the other night/shows during the March run. And we know we will not be getting any from the first night with the horns per John Lynsky who I imagine is writing the liner notes, or should be if he's not.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 02:44 PM
quote:
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"The final shows were not in March 1971, rather were in June of 71."

But if what they have are only March '71 shows...that's what we'll get

My guess is that the narrative will be made to fit whatever music is released.

Who knows it may change our view of history ( sarcasm intended).

Or rather, consist of product that they have available....with well written accolades for the performances.

In the end it will be great music.....which is what counts.

I for one will be studying the eventual setlist to make sure I don't already own this music in one of the many editions of LAFE or EAP that I have purchased since the early seventies


Again, really? We already have the last show of The Fillmore East per trading and the Deluxe issue of EAP. And I don't believe they would put out another version of Live at The Fillmore East without some of the unreleased versions from the other night/shows during the March run. And we know we will not be getting any from the first night with the horns per John Lynsky who I imagine is writing the liner notes, or should be if he's not.


Wayne,
just finished the liner notes the other day; a lot of legit questions about this box - let me clear up what I can at this point - nothing from March 11; no tapes exist. What is included are the four sets from March 12 & 13, and there are a total of 14 unreleased tracks from those four sets. Also includes the complete versions of the two "You Don't Love Me's" that Tom Dowd cut and spliced together for the original version on the AFE album - June 27, 1971 is also in the package, and this time it includes Bill Graham's wonderful introduction of the band. Great stuff on here, and some interesting surprises - I know people are skeptical; everyone can judge for themselves when it is released. Bottom line is 14 unreleased tracks are included.
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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 02:58 PM
Hey John, great news! Thanks for the most complete update we have heard about the set! I am really stoked now for this, all 4 sets, 14 unreleased? Man, that is great. And to get the June show too, with Bill's intro finally.

Glad you are the one who wrote the notes, looking forward to reading those as much as hearing the tunes, thanks again John! Wish you could have been at Galadrielle's book signing in Macon, would have been nice to catch up with you again.

 

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Just finished the liner notes the other day; a lot of legit questions about this box - let me clear up what I can at this point - nothing from March 11; no tapes exist. What is included are the four sets from March 12 & 13, and there are a total of 14 unreleased tracks from those four sets. Also includes the complete versions of the two "You Don't Love Me's" that Tom Dowd cut and spliced together for the original version on the AFE album - June 27, 1971 is also in the package, and this time it includes Bill Graham's wonderful introduction of the band. Great stuff on here, and some interesting surprises - I know people are skeptical; everyone can judge for themselves when it is released. Bottom line is 14 unreleased tracks are included. - JL


WOW!!!!
I can't wait for this one. This is the set they should have done back when they put the "Fillmore Concerts" set out. I've always wanted to hear the "Whipping Post" that fades out after the end of "You Don't Love Me" on the original album. Looking forward to this release in a BIG way. Is there any word on the packaging? I think something like a road case would be neat.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 05:08 PM
can't wait
 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 06:17 PM
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[... June 27, 1971 is also in the package, and this time it includes Bill Graham's wonderful introduction of the band.



The same June 27 1971 that we bought with EAP de luxe (with a complete introduction)?




 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 06:38 PM
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[... June 27, 1971 is also in the package, and this time it includes Bill Graham's wonderful introduction of the band.



The same June 27 1971 that we bought with EAP de luxe (with a complete introduction)?






Yes.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 07:25 PM
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Wayne,
just finished the liner notes the other day; a lot of legit questions about this box - let me clear up what I can at this point - nothing from March 11; no tapes exist. What is included are the four sets from March 12 & 13, and there are a total of 14 unreleased tracks from those four sets. Also includes the complete versions of the two "You Don't Love Me's" that Tom Dowd cut and spliced together for the original version on the AFE album - June 27, 1971 is also in the package, and this time it includes Bill Graham's wonderful introduction of the band. Great stuff on here, and some interesting surprises - I know people are skeptical; everyone can judge for themselves when it is released. Bottom line is 14 unreleased tracks are included.
JL


OK, that's what I'm talking about! Count me in. Also curious on what the packaging will be like.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 09:10 PM
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[... June 27, 1971 is also in the package, and this time it includes Bill Graham's wonderful introduction of the band.



The same June 27 1971 that we bought with EAP de luxe (with a complete introduction)




Mine has no introduction !?!?!?

[Edited on 4/24/2014 by MikeZlotnicki]

 

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  posted on 4/23/2014 at 09:52 PM
Thank you John for clearing this up. I wish I would have scrolled down first instead of sitting here saying"WHAT? AGAIN?'...CANNOT wait for this
 
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  posted on 4/24/2014 at 07:48 AM
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"The final shows were not in March 1971, rather were in June of 71."

But if what they have are only March '71 shows...that's what we'll get

My guess is that the narrative will be made to fit whatever music is released.

Who knows it may change our view of history ( sarcasm intended).

Or rather, consist of product that they have available....with well written accolades for the performances.

In the end it will be great music.....which is what counts.

I for one will be studying the eventual setlist to make sure I don't already own this music in one of the many editions of LAFE or EAP that I have purchased since the early seventies


Again, really? We already have the last show of The Fillmore East per trading and the Deluxe issue of EAP. And I don't believe they would put out another version of Live at The Fillmore East without some of the unreleased versions from the other night/shows during the March run. And we know we will not be getting any from the first night with the horns per John Lynsky who I imagine is writing the liner notes, or should be if he's not.


Wayne,
just finished the liner notes the other day; a lot of legit questions about this box - let me clear up what I can at this point - nothing from March 11; no tapes exist. What is included are the four sets from March 12 & 13, and there are a total of 14 unreleased tracks from those four sets. Also includes the complete versions of the two "You Don't Love Me's" that Tom Dowd cut and spliced together for the original version on the AFE album - June 27, 1971 is also in the package, and this time it includes Bill Graham's wonderful introduction of the band. Great stuff on here, and some interesting surprises - I know people are skeptical; everyone can judge for themselves when it is released. Bottom line is 14 unreleased tracks are included.
JL


This is just great news, after all these years, finally, all 4 sets from the 12th and 13th, with more added, wasn't ever sure I would hear them all in my lifetime. really looking forward to hearing both versions of YDLM, wow. Thanks Bill, thanks John, is it July yet?

 

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  posted on 4/24/2014 at 08:31 AM
14 unreleased tracks. This is great news indeed!!!

This means that I can dump that FPOS "The Fillmore Concerts"

 

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  posted on 4/24/2014 at 08:41 AM
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This means that I can dump that FPOS "The Fillmore Concerts"


That's a little harsh, I think.
Especially when you consider the original AFE release was edited, and YDLM was a splice job between 2 performances.

So the "fpos" that was the Fillmore Concerts, is merely an extension of how the original AFE release was created by Tom Dowd.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2014 at 09:23 AM
Just for clarification, among the 14 "unreleased tracks" are any of those from the 6/27/71 show? Since those were included in the expanded EAP release, at least I wouldn't consider them unreleased even if it does include Graham's introduction (versions of which have been in trading circles for decades).
 

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  posted on 4/24/2014 at 12:00 PM
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Just for clarification, among the 14 "unreleased tracks" are any of those from the 6/27/71 show? Since those were included in the expanded EAP release, at least I wouldn't consider them unreleased even if it does include Graham's introduction (versions of which have been in trading circles for decades).


No - all 14 unreleased tracks are from March 12 & 13.
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  posted on 4/24/2014 at 01:00 PM
Hot "Lanta with horns?

 

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  posted on 4/24/2014 at 01:27 PM
Been doing some digging and research, and I'm really getting curious as to what we're about to get here.

I've read that Dowd did a bit of editing and splicing on AFE (which was perfectly ok with the band), and the thing I'm wondering is if we're going to get all 4 sets exactly as were played those nights?

I'd love to know if Dowd took a razor to the original tapes, or if a working copy was made for him to create the original release.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2014 at 01:38 PM
I think the only song on At Fillmore East that's spliced together is You Don't Love Me. Because of a mistake in Tom Dowd's notes (I think it was his error, anyway), when The Fillmore Concerts came out it was reported that Elizabeth Reed was edited together from two different performances, but that wasn't the case. The Liz Reed on The Fillmore Concerts is the same as the original. There are some other edits, like Thom Doucette's harmonica solo being taken out of Stormy Monday and the mixing down of the sax player on Hot 'Lanta, but as far as I know the other performances on the album are just as they happened live. To hear everybody talk about it, the idea with the box set is that we'll get the complete early and late shows from March 12 and 13 exactly as they were played.

[Edited on 4/24/2014 by Marley]

 

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