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  posted on 7/17/2015 at 02:35 PM
This was posted on Facebook by a pretty good local R&B singer who goes by Amy Lou. Just as I expected.........the band smoked, Roth was horrible, which is exactly why I didn't bother going:


About Van Halen at the Shoreline last night…

Some things are better left in the past! First and foremost, I had a good time. I do love going to concerts for all kinds of music. There is nothing more fun for me (with clothes on) than a live show whether it be rock, blues or R&B. I have an eclectic taste for music and a very thin wallet so it is truly disappointing when I go to a show that I spent good money on and walk away with, “ehhh.”

The band was great. NO one can deny the monster talent on guitar that is Eddie Van Halen. He most definitely was the high light of the evening. This is a guy who created a signature rock sound that thousands tried to copy after him. He is amazing and I loved every lick he played. As far as rock guitar, he is one of the greats. His brother, Alex Van Halen, is incredible on the drums and it was really cool to see Eddie’s son, Wolfgang, on the bass, laying it down and keeping up with his dad and uncle. This family trio knows how to rock! They were tight and played with balls to the wall precision and purpose. The one thing that kept running through my mind while I was rocking the beats was, “Where the hell is David Lee Roth?!”

I don’t know who was up there last night on the mic, but it wasn’t DLR! Some schmoozy-Las Vegas lounge singer was up there trying to be DLR. Ouch, that was painful to see and worse to hear. His singing sucked. When I go see an old band play their hits, is it too much to expect and want to hear the songs like you know them? Every song he sang was in a different key than recorded and the lyrics uttered like a rap instead of sung in thunderous force like a good rock song should sound. Awful. His singing was sh*t and his stage presence flat. Awkward!

I kept waiting for him to get better, to come alive. I thought to myself, well, maybe he’s just warming up. This is rock and roll and he is older. Watching him do his thing was like trying to squeeze on a pair of spandex that don’t fit no more! DLR attempt to rock the Shoreline and the thousands in attendance was lame. I realized that besides his vocals, the key ingredient that every singer needs was missing. His energy. Zip! Gone. It was about as bright as a burnt out bic. The band was the only thing that made last night’s trip down memory lane worthwhile.

Now I know it’s been over 30 years since I saw Diamond Dave do his thing and as far as rock stars go, he was the sh*t, back in the day. I hardly expected him to wail and grind and do the splits in the air like he used to. The problem is, he didn’t look, sound or feel anything at all, like he used to. It was weird to see him try to get the crowd excited when he’s walking the stage in that lounge singer way. No amount of scarfs or sequined coats can cover the fact that his glory days are over as a rock singer. Disappointed here but I realize nothing lasts forever and there’s a time for everything. Sadly, it would have been a much better concert to just hear the band without him. DLR, it’s time to hang it up. You rocked and rolled us like no one else back in the day, but please, no more. Let me remember you as you were: Fun, cool, exciting and with killer rock vocals that soared. For those who dig VH and missed last nights show, take heart. Eddie, Alex and Wolfgang played their asses off. They ARE Van Halen!

Some of the songs played last night for those who want to know: Beautiful Girls, Jump, You Really Got Me, Running WithThe Devil, Aint Talking Bout Love, Panama, Hot For Teacher, Drop Dead Legs, Eruption, Ice Cream Man, Somebody Get Me a Doctor and “Everybody Wants Some”. Well, not so much, anymore! I’m pretty sure I would have enjoyed the Keb Mo show a lot more. That man can sing! Does that make me old? Have I lost my mojo for rock and roll? Nahhh. Paul Rodgers, Mick Jagger, Robin Zander and other rock greats still got it. Which brings me back to my original point; some things are better left in the past! Next time I want to hear DLR sing, I’ll save my $200 bucks and pull an old album from my collection and plop it on my record player where nostalgia reigns supreme.


[Edited on 7/17/2015 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 7/17/2015 at 03:26 PM
This is the textbook dilemma older bands find themselves in when they have to choose between authenticity vs. capability.

You pick a DLR who's lost his fast ball and folks who demand excellence are disappointed.

You pick a newcomer who can bring the heat but doesn't "fit" culturally and the purists are ready to mutiny.

Tough position to be in, but then again there are worse problems to have in this world Glad to hear the band itself are still bringing it

 

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  posted on 7/17/2015 at 05:03 PM
DLR never really did sing. His style was more of a talk so much of it should be no problem. Where he really fails is by throwing the timing/phrasing of every single song off. I saw a few shows last tour and at times I wondered if he even remembered how the original went. Either speeding ahead of the band but usually lagging so he doesn't hit the chorus at the right time.

EVH did not want to continue with DLR and the follow up recording fell apart. They release a live album which makes DLR (and the band by extension) look terrible. But needed an excuse to tour and fill the coffers. They could have easily released some early era show but chose to make DLR look bad. Some form of bizarre sabotage of their own band. The whole thing is sad.

At this point, I wouldn't expect excellence from DLR as he never was. But put as much effort into relearning the songs as he puts into his wardrobe changes. The guy spent song after song obsessed with a hat that looked like a golf hat from the 40s. Put it on - take it off - back on - put it down - pick it up- on and on. The honest truth is that DLR was always cheesy, it just came across differently when he was young.

For me, it is about the songs and EVH and the band. The Mike thing is done. Who cares who the singer is at this stage? With Eddie returning to form, I think they should just keep playing. Get some young kid that can fill the role and sing all the eras. From a purist angle, they got as close as it will come to the original lineup. Got a studio album, tour and a real bad live release. Now that the old tunes are back - just get a singer.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2015 at 05:08 PM
quote:

This is the textbook dilemma older bands find themselves in when they have to choose between authenticity vs. capability.

You pick a DLR who's lost his fast ball and folks who demand excellence are disappointed.

You pick a newcomer who can bring the heat but doesn't "fit" culturally and the purists are ready to mutiny.

Tough position to be in, but then again there are worse problems to have in this world Glad to hear the band itself are still bringing it


You make some GREAT points!

When ABB dumped Dickey circa 1999 I was one of the "purists" who was ready to mutiny. Never did I realize that the music was just about to step up a big notch. And of course, I didn't know about Dickey's sometimes sloppy playing and erratic behavior, either.

Yeah, Van Halen would have pissed off LEGIONS of fans if they'd hired some unknown young buck who could hit all the notes. The only other option was to bring back Sammy but I guess in fact that was NOT an option. At any rate, I'm glad I had the good sense not to go to this.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2015 at 05:17 PM
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For me, it is about the songs and EVH and the band. The Mike thing is done. Who cares who the singer is at this stage? With Eddie returning to form, I think they should just keep playing. Get some young kid that can fill the role and sing all the eras. From a purist angle, they got as close as it will come to the original lineup. Got a studio album, tour and a real bad live release. Now that the old tunes are back - just get a singer.


Again, some great points made!

Maybe that really is the whole purpose of this tour, James: To show everyone how horrible Roth is. Then the "purist" fans will be relieved when Eddie and Co. bring in a new singer.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2015 at 06:30 PM
Eddie is killing it on this tour, probably his best performance since the Unchained tour. DLR never could sing. I'd rather have no singing than hear DLR destroy these awesome tunes.
 

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  posted on 7/17/2015 at 07:21 PM
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DLR never really did sing. His style was more of a talk so much of it should be no problem. Where he really fails is by throwing the timing/phrasing of every single song off. I saw a few shows last tour and at times I wondered if he even remembered how the original went. Either speeding ahead of the band but usually lagging so he doesn't hit the chorus at the right time.

EVH did not want to continue with DLR and the follow up recording fell apart. They release a live album which makes DLR (and the band by extension) look terrible. But needed an excuse to tour and fill the coffers. They could have easily released some early era show but chose to make DLR look bad. Some form of bizarre sabotage of their own band. The whole thing is sad.

At this point, I wouldn't expect excellence from DLR as he never was. But put as much effort into relearning the songs as he puts into his wardrobe changes. The guy spent song after song obsessed with a hat that looked like a golf hat from the 40s. Put it on - take it off - back on - put it down - pick it up- on and on. The honest truth is that DLR was always cheesy, it just came across differently when he was young.

For me, it is about the songs and EVH and the band. The Mike thing is done. Who cares who the singer is at this stage? With Eddie returning to form, I think they should just keep playing. Get some young kid that can fill the role and sing all the eras. From a purist angle, they got as close as it will come to the original lineup. Got a studio album, tour and a real bad live release. Now that the old tunes are back - just get a singer.



I have been saying it since the last tour. They should take a page out of Journey's book and hire this guy who is now in a band named Steel Panther. He can mimic old Roth and looks the rock part without all of the stupid antics. I bet he could also sing Sammy era songs as well and I bet they could bring more of those old demos to life with him the way they are playing now. I think the fans would eat it up.


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