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  posted on 4/22/2016 at 03:27 PM
Just wondering, after the horrible disaster of the last one.

Any ideas? I'm interested in both opinion and any factual information regarding whether or not anyone has plans to get the ball rolling again.

 

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  posted on 4/22/2016 at 04:09 PM
Just my opinion, but I think it is dead.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2016 at 10:17 AM
The driving force was director Randall Miller, who was released from prison recently, but is ordered to have no part in film making for 10 years. After the tragedy, Gregg was no longer interested in pursuing the project. I don't think any studio would touch the project after what happened, it would be all the media talked about.

Tragedy aside, while a Gregg Allman movie would have been great for The Allman Brothers' music and gaining a new generation of fans, the movie looked pretty terrible. The erudite William Hurt looked like a wizard more than a rock star in the footage I saw, and the rest of the band was essentially played by the musical equivalent of stunt men. It was going to be a bad movie - honestly, who needs to see another bio pic about a musician's addiction?

For those curious, here is some footage from that was shot for the film. Some of it from the bridge on that fateful day, all of it for the movie, none from the actual incident - just to be clear. There is also some interesting jam footage with said band doubles at the end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLPXSCxoCAw

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  posted on 4/23/2016 at 09:12 PM
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I don't think any studio would touch the project after what happened, it would be all the media talked about.


It's been said MANY times, any publicity is good publicity.

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The erudite William Hurt looked like a wizard more than a rock star in the footage I saw


Hurt's involvement didn't increase your interest in the project? C'mon, now...........

 

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  posted on 4/23/2016 at 09:17 PM
I thought the movie was a bad idea once I heard of the dream sequence. However seeing that footage, wow was that going to be a bad movie.
 

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I thought the movie was a bad idea once I heard of the dream sequence. However seeing that footage, wow was that going to be a bad movie.


We'll never know. I watched it too, pretty small sample on which to judge. Personally I didn't think it was all that bad.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2016 at 09:32 PM
Seemed more made for TV movie concept than a theatrical release.

However, you may be right about judging from a small sample.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2016 at 12:09 AM
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For those curious, here is some footage from that was shot for the film. Some of it from the bridge on that fateful day, all of it for the movie, none from the actual incident - just to be clear.


That was ....OK. The Duane character might have had a slide bar...


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There is also some interesting jam footage with said band doubles at the end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLPXSCxoCAw


Sorry, that was awful. The visual intro to "The Band" was ...well, funny looking. The slide playing was not even close and since when is Dickey left-handed?

 

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  posted on 4/24/2016 at 12:33 AM
The first thing I said to my wife as we watched it was "so they couldn't get a right handed guy to play Dickey?"

I know it is just a 5 minute clip, but it looked low rent.

We don't need a biopic anyway. We need a good long "Runnin' Down A Dream"/"History of The Eagles" type documentary where everyone involved gets interviewed and great footage gets shared and the whole story is told. At least that's what I would find value in seeing produced.


 

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  posted on 4/24/2016 at 02:11 AM
Porkchopbob, thanks for the link to that footage. I was never aware that that footage was around. But for me it was a confirmation that this wasn't going to be a release that i would have anticipated or liked. William Hurt simply "isn't" Gregory. Not convincing at all. And the rest of the footage.....pffff, i agree with WarEagleRK's
"Seemed more made for TV movie concept". It really looks kinda cheap. And yes: a big budget rockumentary i would really prefer too. Again WarEagleRK comes up with two excellent examples. In case of the ABB such rock doc would be the ideal platform to finally release video / film footage that has been in the vaults for ages (like the Atlanta Pop Festival footage).

 

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  posted on 4/24/2016 at 09:06 AM
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William Hurt simply "isn't" Gregory.


If there's one thing I know about Peachheads on this website, many of them are overly critical.

You're going to judge William Hurt's performance as Gregg, WHICH YOU NEVER SAW, from a two minute clip of him lying in a hospital bed placed across a railroad track?

That's BEYOND ridiculous. And I think just the fact that Gregg was going to be involved in the band rehearsal scenes gives the film some legitimacy right there. Also, if they found someone who looks like Dickey and can play the hell out of the guitar..............does it really matter that the actor happens to be left-handed? Again, way overly critical.

However, as I already stated, we may never know.

[Edited on 4/24/2016 by robslob]

[Edited on 4/24/2016 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 4/24/2016 at 09:22 AM
I'd have no problem watching a movie on Jimi Hendrix as the guy playing Jimi's part played a right handed guitar.
Wouldn't look odd at all....
A bad movie made from a bad book. Ain't enough makeup to make that flic look good.
Can it, put it away up on the top shelf.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2016 at 10:19 AM
So it sounds like we are in agreement, robslob is the only one who wants to see this movie

I happen to agree with some above, let it slip into obscurity, a sad footnote, a trivia question only folks from this website will ever be able to answer.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2016 at 10:47 AM
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So it sounds like we are in agreement, robslob is the only one who wants to see this movie

I happen to agree with some above, let it slip into obscurity, a sad footnote, a trivia question only folks from this website will ever be able to answer.


The problem I have is with people here who judge the film from the short clips shown. Hell, no one even knows if any of that would have even made the final cut!

 

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  posted on 4/24/2016 at 11:03 AM
I agree that it's difficult to gauge from this brief clip and the rehearsal footage what the final film would turn into. We superfans here know the faces and personas better than the average public, and are like comic book nerds complaining about who plays The Joker before we event see the movie. I don't think Dickey's dominant hand defines him, especially since he was going to barely be a player in the film. The actor wouldn't likely be contributing to the film's soundtrack and have to be able to play guitar - I think this was more for getting into the roles which a lot of films will do prior to filming. I'm sure most of the makeup and wigs were test footage, it would have looked better in the final film.

I admit I don't think William Hurt was a very good choice but actors do pretend to play outside of themselves, so who knows what Hurt would have done with the role. Anthony Hopkins certainly didn't look much like Richard Nixon, but he personified him better than all of the impersonators that came before or since. However, I read that the thoughtful casting process for the role of Gregg went as far as the director happened to run into Hurt in the grocery store and asked him if he was interested, so we all have probably put more thought into it than they did.

I think a better gauge is the director's previous film, the CBGB movie, was essentially a "let's play dress up" exercise, and not a very good one at that. Add to that, Midnight Rider's story is the same arc as Ray or any other Walk Hard-type rise and fall. Peoples' entire lives don't always fit into 100 minutes of pretend. Take the movies Ali and When We Were Kings - both were about Muhamed Ali, but I learned far more about Ali from the documentary When We Were Kings than I did from Ali (Ironically, When We Were Kings was directed by Taylor Hackford, the director of Ray). So I agree, a documentary would be far more interesting and enlightening.

It would have been nice to see the Allman Brothers and Duane Allman back in the media spotlight, but I don't think the CBGB film caused Ramones album sales to spike significantly or gain much fresh chatter. But in the end, it's tough to talk about the project without considering the tragedy that caused it to be put on ice in the first place - it's the first time a director was ever found responsible for such a tragedy on set. Robslob, any publicity is good publicity is definitely a thing people say, but such an epic tragedy still hangs over this project. It would be all the trades would talk about, and no new director or actors would want to spend their time on media junkets doing that. Also, I doubt many crew would join the project since there was such solidarity with Sarah Jones.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2016 at 03:20 AM
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William Hurt simply "isn't" Gregory.


If there's one thing I know about Peachheads on this website, many of them are overly critical.

You're going to judge William Hurt's performance as Gregg, WHICH YOU NEVER SAW, from a two minute clip of him lying in a hospital bed placed across a railroad track?

That's BEYOND ridiculous. And I think just the fact that Gregg was going to be involved in the band rehearsal scenes gives the film some legitimacy right there. Also, if they found someone who looks like Dickey and can play the hell out of the guitar..............does it really matter that the actor happens to be left-handed? Again, way overly critical.

[Edited on 4/24/2016 by robslob]


Sorry to disagree. I think it's not BEYOND ridiculous. Nobody needs to tell me that William Hurt is a damn fine actor beacause he indeed is but, yes, from a few minutes of footage i can "tell" that he just didn't look convincing as Gregg Allman at all. Throw a wig and some fake tattoos on a actor and let's roll the cameras...

But porkchopbob indeed makes a perfect assesment by stating: (.....We superfans here know the faces and personas better than the average public, and are like comic book nerds complaining about who plays The Joker before we event see the movie.....).

And YES, i do think it would be a bad sign for the authencity of a biopic movie, when in the final version they
would portrait a right-handed reallife musician by a left handed performing actor. If that would end up in the movie that is. Maybe it was only some rehearsal footage and it would be noticed and corrected while filming the actual movie. Indeed it would be much less convincing if they would do this the other way around on a biopic of the much more iconic Jimi Hendrix. But still i think these are simple details you can't screw up on in order to do the subject matter of such a movie justice. Even if Dickey Betts is not the main focus.

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I agree that it's difficult to gauge from this brief clip and the rehearsal footage what the final film would turn into. We superfans here know the faces and personas better than the average public, and are like comic book nerds complaining about who plays The Joker before we event see the movie. I don't think Dickey's dominant hand defines him, especially since he was going to barely be a player in the film. The actor wouldn't likely be contributing to the film's soundtrack and have to be able to play guitar - I think this was more for getting into the roles which a lot of films will do prior to filming. I'm sure most of the makeup and wigs were test footage, it would have looked better in the final film.

I admit I don't think William Hurt was a very good choice but actors do pretend to play outside of themselves, so who knows what Hurt would have done with the role. Anthony Hopkins certainly didn't look much like Richard Nixon, but he personified him better than all of the impersonators that came before or since. However, I read that the thoughtful casting process for the role of Gregg went as far as the director happened to run into Hurt in the grocery store and asked him if he was interested, so we all have probably put more thought into it than they did.

I think a better gauge is the director's previous film, the CBGB movie, was essentially a "let's play dress up" exercise, and not a very good one at that. Add to that, Midnight Rider's story is the same arc as Ray or any other Walk Hard-type rise and fall. Peoples' entire lives don't always fit into 100 minutes of pretend. Take the movies Ali and When We Were Kings - both were about Muhamed Ali, but I learned far more about Ali from the documentary When We Were Kings than I did from Ali (Ironically, When We Were Kings was directed by Taylor Hackford, the director of Ray). So I agree, a documentary would be far more interesting and enlightening.

It would have been nice to see the Allman Brothers and Duane Allman back in the media spotlight, but I don't think the CBGB film caused Ramones album sales to spike significantly or gain much fresh chatter. But in the end, it's tough to talk about the project without considering the tragedy that caused it to be put on ice in the first place - it's the first time a director was ever found responsible for such a tragedy on set. Robslob, any publicity is good publicity is definitely a thing people say, but such an epic tragedy still hangs over this project. It would be all the trades would talk about, and no new director or actors would want to spend their time on media junkets doing that. Also, I doubt many crew would join the project since there was such solidarity with Sarah Jones.



Well done...this says it all!

 
 


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