musicmann
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posted on 3/19/2017 at 11:41 AM |
Anyone going to see Clapton tonight or tomorrow night @MSG?
I will be at the Monday night show. Gary Clark Jr and Jimmy Vaughn are the announced guests celebrating 50 years of music....
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Fretsman
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posted on 3/19/2017 at 11:56 AM |
I'll be there Monday night w/Mama. Just as a heads up I received an email stating that the doors will open at 6:30 and show will start PROMPTLY at 7:30pm. I believe it was to be an 8:00pm start w/the 8:15 casual NYC delay for the fans.
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AlPaul
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posted on 3/19/2017 at 04:16 PM |
| I'm going Monday. Thanks for the timing heads up. ____________________
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posted on 3/19/2017 at 04:37 PM |
I am also going tomorrow. Lots of tickets listed on Craigslist tonight for less than face value.
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posted on 3/19/2017 at 07:24 PM |
Reading posts from people there tonight.
Jimmy Vaughan came on at 7:30 off at 8:00.
Gary Clark jr came on at 8:15 off at 9:00.
EC came on at 9:23.
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plqmule
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posted on 3/19/2017 at 10:17 PM |
Eric Clapton
Madison Square Garden
NYC NY
3/19/17
Key To The Highway
Badge
Hoochie Coochie Man
I Shot the Ssheriff
Drifting Blues (acoustic)
Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out (acoustic)
Tears In Heaven (acoustic)
Layla (acoustic)
Somebody Knocking
Wonderful Tonight
Crossroads
Little Queen Of Spades
Cocaine
Sunshine Of Your Love
Before You Accuse Me *
* w/Gary Clark Jr. & Jimmie Vaughn
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musicmann
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 07:18 AM |
Thanks for posting the set list.
Hopefully he will change it up a bit tonight  ____________________
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 09:28 AM |
Went Sunday night. Eric finished at exactly 11pm. Was very surprised that he did not acknowledge or pay tribute to Chuck Berry. Come to think of it, Eric didn't even introduce his band.......
Also surprised to see Ticketmaster has deeply discounted seats for tonight. On Sunday, floor sections A,B C were all $500 plus fees. For tonight, you can get 25 rows back on the floor for $195 plus fees ........still pricey, but a huge reduction from what your neighbors paid .......
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WarEagleRK
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 10:07 AM |
I've seen Clapton three times, and beyond "Thank You" or the occasional "Chris Stainton" (or other musician) after a solo he really never addresses the audience at all.
The set list isn't greatly different for these shows than what he has played in recent years. I'd say the show tonight might have one or two different songs, but not much different.
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 10:34 AM |
| Any reviews? I respect EC, but have been bored by him at shows (not the ABB sit-in though!) so I passed on expensive ticket prices for a show I wasn't convinced on. I hope he put on a good one and will again tonight for those going. ____________________
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 10:39 AM |
Hands up - who paid $500 to see Clapton? Insanity
Hope everyone enjoys tonight. ____________________
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 10:53 AM |
| A lot of us are of the same mindset here. I said something to the effect of sometimes being bored at Clapton shows and was pilloried for it on the ABB FB page where they posted my piece on the ABB sitin... It's been my experience that he needs someone strong to push him... ____________________
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 11:28 AM |
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Hands up - who paid $500 to see Clapton? Insanity
Agree ........I went last minute and got in below face value at a lower price tier, but tonight is where the real bargains are.
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 11:38 AM |
I'm a big fan of guitarists (hence Fretsman), EC has sh#t the bed on some occasions album wise, He had 80's and early '90's soft pop rock moments, but even on them tours he lit the songs up live. He does get repetitious and isn't worthy of multiple nights on the same tour, but he is a legend who has left an enormous body of work. Some songs suck the most beauty out of simplicity, Yes, but some songs have a rich mixture of chords. I love playing a lot of his tunes.
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 12:32 PM |
I actually paid 300 for tonight when the tickets went on sale. The money is already spent so I have no regrets. I will say having looked at the setlist, it looks like Clapton was playing it safe and the reviews were mixed. Hoping that tonight is better and I am looking forward to seeing both Jimmie Vaughn and Gary Clark Jr.
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posted on 3/20/2017 at 12:54 PM |
I'm not seeing these shows; there is another one in September I'm going to.
This seems about what's expected. I always say if clapton was a horse he's be like Affirmed; he needs someone pushing him to really shine. He is not Secretariat (capable of running off by himself.) Clapton seldom leaves his comfort zone; that is why the second night with ABB was so special. Liz Reed was his only "out of the box" moment.
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 06:44 AM |
The Times had a perfect description of Clapton's performance on Sunday which applied to the show I saw last night-subdued. I have seen Clapton many times asince 1978 and this was the most mellow I have ever seen him. Not necessarily a good thing. Just boring. No other way to describe it. I thought the acoustic set was the most interesting part of last night.
Gary Clark Jr was excellent. I am a big fan and I think when Gary plays a shorter set it accentuates his strength which is playing the guitar and negates the mediocre song writing. There is a reason why he has put put two live albums in such a short amount of time.
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 06:53 AM |
i enjoyed the show last night and was never bored.Perhaps it's the expectations i went in with-no great fireworks expected but a solid well played show.For me the main reason i went was to hear EC's beautiful tone again-after all, he's pretty much shut down touring and this was a rare treat to hear him again.Not my favorite group of players for EC but again, a good performance.
Gary Clark and Vaughn did little for me but it was nice to catch up with a friend during the opening acts.EC was way more into it than when i last saw him at his 70th birthday show @ MSG in 2015.An enjoyable evening!
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 07:39 AM |
| I agree with some folks that he was boring last night. One friend said it was a "professional " show; that is, he was almost catatonic when he played. Hardly any expressions or even acknowledging the crowd except for the occasional thank you s he didn't even introduce the band except for the two keyboard players even though Steve Gadd was on drums. He just moved though the set list. Same tunes as Sunday night just rearranged the order. The acoustic set was excellent, his playing was spot one; but on electric guitar he made several noticeable flubs and took his obligatory solos. I love EC but this was the most subdued I've ever seen him, he looks old. Little Queen of Spades was good and his voice was solid throughout but he never really showed his attitude and attack when he played last night. The setlist included many tunes he has played for years; cocaine, crossroads, sunshine of your love, wonderful tonight, badge, I Shot the Sheriff; no surprises. The Dave Gilmour show last year blew this away..... ____________________
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 08:37 AM |
Steve Gadd and Nathan East don't push Clapton much at all. They are beyond accomplished players with great resumes, but it makes EC's band boring. Steve Jordan and Willie Weeks drive Clapton much more. When Jordan was paired with Ian Thomas on drums at Crossroads 2007, it really propelled things.
Clapton has done some of his best work when pushed by an Allman Brother: Duane then Chuck Leavell then Derek Trucks. I was lucky to see him with both Leavell & Derek. I also saw him in the mid and late 80s which were great shows as I recall.
Doyle Bramhall II with Jordan and Weeks was darn good too even without Derek back in 2006-2008.
His Blues Tour and album in 1994 was blazing (didn't see it live but have a great rehearsal bootleg where they smoke). His band included Dave Bronze on bass and Andy Newmark on drums
I would pass on a band of Clapton as the main guitarist with Gadd & East playing the setlist and lenght of show he did this week. That's hard to say since EC is among my all time favorites. ____________________
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 08:59 AM |
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One friend said it was a "professional " show; that is, he was almost catatonic when he played. Hardly any expressions or even acknowledging the crowd except for the occasional thank you s
Please don't take this as attempting to argue with you, because it is not. Just something that struck me when reading this:
When Derek does the same thing -- no movement, no talking, no expressions, etc. -- everyone thinks it's really cool. When Eric does it (and that's how he's played since, well, forever) it's aloof or something.
Now -- I am a HUGE Clapton fan, so maybe I get defensive, but I find it interesting that he's such a polarizing figure. But also, I think sometimes folks search for things to criticize him about where other musicians get the benefit of the doubt.
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 09:10 AM |
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One friend said it was a "professional " show; that is, he was almost catatonic when he played. Hardly any expressions or even acknowledging the crowd except for the occasional thank you s
Please don't take this as attempting to argue with you, because it is not. Just something that struck me when reading this:
When Derek does the same thing -- no movement, no talking, no expressions, etc. -- everyone thinks it's really cool. When Eric does it (and that's how he's played since, well, forever) it's aloof or something.
Now -- I am a HUGE Clapton fan, so maybe I get defensive, but I find it interesting that he's such a polarizing figure. But also, I think sometimes folks search for things to criticize him about where other musicians get the benefit of the doubt.
agree 100%....
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 09:12 AM |
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Steve Gadd and Nathan East don't push Clapton much at all. They are beyond accomplished players with great resumes, but it makes EC's band boring. Steve Jordan and Willie Weeks drive Clapton much more. When Jordan was paired with Ian Thomas on drums at Crossroads 2007, it really propelled things.
Clapton has done some of his best work when pushed by an Allman Brother: Duane then Chuck Leavell then Derek Trucks. I was lucky to see him with both Leavell & Derek. I also saw him in the mid and late 80s which were great shows as I recall.
Doyle Bramhall II with Jordan and Weeks was darn good too even without Derek back in 2006-2008.
His Blues Tour and album in 1994 was blazing (didn't see it live but have a great rehearsal bootleg where they smoke). His band included Dave Bronze on bass and Andy Newmark on drums
I would pass on a band of Clapton as the main guitarist with Gadd & East playing the setlist and lenght of show he did this week. That's hard to say since EC is among my all time favorites.
great post.
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 09:25 AM |
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One friend said it was a "professional " show; that is, he was almost catatonic when he played. Hardly any expressions or even acknowledging the crowd except for the occasional thank you s
Please don't take this as attempting to argue with you, because it is not. Just something that struck me when reading this:
When Derek does the same thing -- no movement, no talking, no expressions, etc. -- everyone thinks it's really cool. When Eric does it (and that's how he's played since, well, forever) it's aloof or something.
Now -- I am a HUGE Clapton fan, so maybe I get defensive, but I find it interesting that he's such a polarizing figure. But also, I think sometimes folks search for things to criticize him about where other musicians get the benefit of the doubt.
agree 100%....
For me, alot of this boils down to expectations.....and given the obscene pricing of this show, I think lots of folks had VERY high expectations. I have no qualms with the quality of anything. I just think when half of the lower bowl and most of the floor is shelling out nearly $600 a ticket (with fees), the headliner should play more than 90 minutes.
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posted on 3/21/2017 at 10:45 AM |
Interesting discussion. Like the Bro's I dig Clapton. Like the Bro's I have at times cringed. Comes with the territory of music I guess..... Random thoughts:
Tears in Heaven
I have same frame of reference as him..... I get writing the song... it is touching... hard to picture wanting to make that energy part of a public show. Last song I would want to hear live....
I Shot the Sherriff.....
I remember when radio played that song and played that song and played that song.... it was dreadful..... it still is...... Brits and Jamaica no mix, man....
Layla (acoustic)
I don't get it...... I feel like on a cruise boat with an umbrella drink and a bad piano act on the deck.... wait! It's Eric!
Cocaine! I hated that song when I DID cocaine! It is BB..... Beyond Bad.... Bring the big hair out, I love the 80's.....
OK Eric rant over, oh wait
Nobody Knows WYDAO
I love when someone takes a great electric blues they are famous for and sucks the life out of it, along with the electricity......
OK, Eric rant over..... I do love him......
He can play the hell out of Little Queen of Spades, dig that big time.... along with countless others....
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