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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 04:07 PM
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Me too. Just posting, don't know how you got the idea I think you shouldn't say whatever. Your back is up man, smooth the hackles. Just turns every conversation into a fight.

Yes am a card carrying feminist - and looking at the big picture. Big enough picture to discern when a comment is genuinely sexist. To put a muffler on all off-color humor isn't feminism, it is puritanical.






[Edited on 1/19/2018 by BrerRabbit]


Great post bro rabbit. Spot on. Your last line = home run.

Perspective matters.

I could say plenty on this subject, but for now will defer to your home run.


 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 04:49 PM
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home run


Home run? . . . SAY NO MORE



 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 05:45 PM
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Just posting, don't know how you got the idea I think you shouldn't say whatever.
[Edited on 1/19/2018 by BrerRabbit]


Maybe your reference that my comment was good just misplaced - you'd back me if it had been brought up in the context of Roy Moore. Otherwise, I was off-target. Now, I'm puritanical.

As to the rest, the original poster didn't say another poster was sexy as in your GIF. He said she was jealous that she hadn't been the one having sex w/Mr. Trump, implying her comments should be dismissed because of this bias. I pointed out this is exactly how #metoo starts - men undermining women by creating a sexual reference when there was none.

I'm not muffling anyone. Sexual harassment definitions date back to 1964 and I didn't write them. Neither of us gets to determine what is a genuinely sexist comment. That's the job of the judge/jury evaluating a sexual harassment case or the lawyers arguing over how much the speaker should pay in exchange for silence or the HR administrator evaluating a hostile environment complaint.

I'm a prosecutor who knows red flags when he sees them. Just keep backing each other that the woman and the lawyer or HR person she goes to is oversensitive & puritanical & has overblown the situation. Wink & Nudge. Never consider there's an iota of poor judgment on the part of the speaker.

That's it for me.



[Edited on 1/19/2018 by cyclone88]

[Edited on 1/19/2018 by cyclone88]

 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 06:36 PM



None of that means I think you should't post whatever you feel like. I.post whatever I want to, doesn't bug me when folks rip on me at all.

Back to the thing...ok mr. prosecutor help me out then. What was the situation? Not really seeing where the big deal is. Was anyone abused, harrassed, slandered, exploited? Where's the offense, other than the subjective ethical stuff of that weird daughter thing or sex outside marriage?

I didn't read the "jealous" line as implying anything negative on her at all. If anything it gives her credit for success in her chosen profession, which is promoting her own desirability, which a lot of uptight folks would denigrate.

We all see what we need to see I guess.

Gotta stick with the "lighten up" on this one. You can't even eke out a chuckle for Spinal Tap or Monty Python you got your own personal raincloud.

[Edited on 1/19/2018 by BrerRabbit]

[Edited on 1/19/2018 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 06:55 PM
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Where's the offense, other than the subjective ethical stuff of that weird daughter thing or sex outside marriage?


We're not talking about the same thing. A poster tried to shut down a poster by saying she was jealous that she wasn't the one having sex w/Trump.

I said that comment was exactly what the #metoo movement was about - dismissing a woman's opinion by injecting sex into it via a stupid joke. It's the kind of mindset that is under scrutiny right now. That's it. That's my only point. Read what I said to the poster.

I don't know anything about ethical stuff, weird daughters, sex outside marriage, Spinal Tap, or Monty Python. It's hardly news that Trump is a womanizer as were many presidents before him.

And here I thought you said I raised a good point in the wrong forum...

 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 07:00 PM
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He said she was jealous that she hadn't been the one having sex w/Mr. Trump


Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the "jealous" line was referring to being jealous because we didn't get to boff a porn star. Which is actually not an enviable thing if you are concerned about STDs and such.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 07:19 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the "jealous" line was referring to being jealous because we didn't get to boff a porn star. Which is actually not an enviable thing if you are concerned about STDs and such.


That would be a question for the poster.

I've lost interest.




 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 07:30 PM
Too bad, as the issues you raised are very worth discussing , which I said in my initial reply. I never said anything like you "posted in tbe wrong forum". For a prosecutor, someone who has to listen to people's bs all day, you seem a bit volatile and unwilling to parry.

btw I totally agree that the good ol boy sex stuff is beyond gross and deserves to be classified on the same level as hate crime.

That makes it all the more important that we not go off on every little remark, but weigh everything in context, before we start dropping the hammer.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 07:46 PM
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3 points

1. If she ended up with Trump him in a physical way, that was something private between them. Why does it need to come out now? The disclosure only hurts his wife.

2. She has denied it recently and the account in the media stories sounds like something the CIA would make up.

3. The Wall Street Journal had a very detailed article last week with details about the alleged money transfer. What I will say is this. IF he gave her money, it could have been for anything, such as perhaps she needed money for something in her personal life, to help a sick relative, or re-pay a loan or something. People should not assume it was for hush money IF indeed this happened.

4. There was an article in the NY Post with pictures of her with other celebrities, she has been somewhat of a socialite hob knobbing with other celebrity people; therefore she has been successful in her own right, she probably would not have even needed money from Trump.

Bottom line, IF it happened, it was not an ongoing affair, it would have been a brief encounter or two. I don't think people should make a big deal about it; but remember I told you the Democrats intended to bring out 8 women in January who would reportedly claim they had sex with Trump just to raise some sort of ethics probe on him. This could be the pre-lude to that.

[Edited on 1/18/2018 by gina]


You're just jealous it wasn't you.


Jealous of what? That she might have had sex with Trump? I like his personality, but I am not physically attracted to him. I think he is a great American, a successful businessman, and I know I saw him recite poetry in a you tube video, which shows a side of him most people are unaware of. He is very smart, passionate, and romantic. He's been harassed and persecuted since he started running for President, and the dissidents continue to try to ruin him. His perseverance is admirable and will become legendary as he will not let any of this cheap circus sideshow distract him from his mission, to Make America Great Again.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 07:50 PM
Lol oh I stand corrected, the jealous thing was about gina. Well, she isn't attracted to trump so at least that's settled.
 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 08:05 PM
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Too bad, as the issues you raised are very worth discussing , which I said in my initial reply.


I'll bite and then I'm done. You said my comment was "misplaced" and made a reference to Roy Moore - I was making a good point in the wrong place/forum/thread/younameit.

I am quite level headed. What I saw in reading the thread was an anomaly. "Gina" was getting a lot of comments and criticism on her post. ALL of the responses were on the substance of her comment - some were even jocular - save one. I pointed that out. It was the stuff of the #metoo that comes across my desk AND of which men should be aware.

I appreciated your early thoughts. However, I don't think this thread or even this forum is the place where a legit discussion of this topic can take place.










 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 08:16 PM
Well . . . I'm not entirely convinced gina is .. . . I suppose that doesn't have any bearing on the debate. ok, nuf said, this is getting strange and it is my fault.

Never mind cyclone, for the record I think sexist d*ckheads deserve a vibram waffle print on the face. Can't stand that noise, never could. Your intent is honorable for sure.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 08:18 PM
There are people in the government and outside of it also who want to destroy Trump. This is a tabloid story published today of an alleged interview that Ms. Daniels (her stage name) supposedly did. I think it is one big made up lie but I also think it is important to know this BIG LIE certain entities seem to be pushing about Trump.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/stormy-daniels-full-interview-151788

And they even try to drag Ben Rothlisberger into it that he was accompanying her back to her room, and Trump's Security Man was helping her slip away with him. So what is the goal here? Get his wife to want to divorce him, create mistrust between him and his former Security Man? They want to separate him from the people who know and have been loyal to him. This is like the ultimate Democrat created psy-op.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2018 at 08:23 PM
So the porn star is like the "Manchurian Candy-Date" ! It's all a c*ntspiracy.
 

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  posted on 1/20/2018 at 09:05 AM
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There are people in the government and outside of it also who want to destroy Trump.


He needs nobody to assist there. He is a one man wrecking crew. The same guy you hold up as something special has the lowest prez rating in history in year 1. He is taking the GOP down one block at a time, dividing the USA more so than all those who accused Obama of this, and has pissed off countries formerly known as our allies.

Gina, come November 2018 you will see first hand the damage he has done to the GOP. If the GOP loses the House & Senate, Trump's policies will flip from being a Repub to a Dem. All he cares about is wins versus losses & in his media perception. The policies to get there are insignificant to him.

Do you really believe he is a true conservative? No, he is an opportunist. Anything that makes him look good makes him happy.

 

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  posted on 1/20/2018 at 01:44 PM
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So the porn star is like the "Manchurian Candy-Date" ! It's all a c*ntspiracy.


I don't know what her schtick is. I do think it is possible he met her at any of the social events he attended, beyond that I do not believe the story from what has been attributable to her as interviews and disclosures.

As far as conspiracy, I do think there is one by the group that has sought to take him out of power and will use any trick in the book and even some that aren't if someone comes up with a plan they think will cause him trouble, investigations etc. I don't know that the regular conspiracy against him (which began even before he took office) is related to this event. It could be two separate things.

It could even be that they want to discredit and destroy her because she refused to go against him, so they figure they will exploit and expose the two of them. All that we know is that she was an adult film star, WAS past tense. She said she has a husband and a new life now. So, somebody is stirring the pot of a flame that stopped heating things up a long time ago. The allegation is an affair in 2006, this is 2018, twelve years later. How likely is it that something like that just happens to come out now? Seems more likely there is a conspiracy.

 

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