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Author: Subject: Elizabeth Warren Disappointed After DNA Test Shows Zero Trace Of Presidential Material

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  posted on 10/15/2018 at 07:37 PM
I thought democrats are the party of science? The results dont even help her case in the least. Strange she wanted to release this right before the mid-terms.

She is arguing that although her DNA is less than 0.1% Native American, her claim is legitimate.

https://politics.theonion.com/elizabeth-warren-disappointed-after-dna-test- shows-zero-1829766407

Here is a real source:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-dna-ancestr y.html



[Edited on 10/16/2018 by OriginalGoober]

 

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  posted on 10/15/2018 at 07:52 PM
Cherokee Nation responds to Senator Warren, says DNA test 'useless to determine tribal citizenship'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cherokee-nation-responds-to-senator-warren -says-dna-test-useless-to-determine-tribal-citizenship


Cherokee Nation Calls Elizabeth Warren's DNA Test 'Inappropriate and Wrong'
http://time.com/5425427/cherokee-nation-responds-elizabeth-warrens-dna-test /


'Inappropriate and wrong': Cherokee Nation official throws cold water on Elizabeth Warren's DNA test of Native American heritage
https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-native-american-dna-test-r esponse-tribal-heritage-2018-10

 

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  posted on 10/15/2018 at 07:55 PM
100x more qualified to be president than the orange dipsh!t in office now.
 

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  posted on 10/15/2018 at 08:29 PM
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100x more qualified to be president than the orange dipsh!t in office now.


Pops must be tired of winning.

 

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  posted on 10/15/2018 at 09:31 PM
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I thought democrats are the party of science?


Interesting in that they believe in the Science of global warming, but will also argue that there are 31 genders.

 

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  posted on 10/15/2018 at 10:19 PM
Goober, Mule, and BIGV, bonding again as victims....three peas in a pod, how sad. ďItís the political party that did it officer, I saw it with my own eyes, yeah thatís the ticket.Ē
 

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  posted on 10/15/2018 at 10:43 PM
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Cherokee Nation responds to Senator Warren, says DNA test 'useless to determine tribal citizenship'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cherokee-nation-responds-to-senator-warren -says-dna-test-useless-to-determine-tribal-citizenship


Cherokee Nation Calls Elizabeth Warren's DNA Test 'Inappropriate and Wrong'
http://time.com/5425427/cherokee-nation-responds-elizabeth-warrens-dna-test /




'Inappropriate and wrong': Cherokee Nation official throws cold water on Elizabeth Warren's DNA test of Native American heritage
https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-native-american-dna-test-r esponse-tribal-heritage-2018-10



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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 01:35 AM
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Goober, Mule, and BIGV, bonding again as victims....three peas in a pod, how sad. ďItís the political party that did it officer, I saw it with my own eyes, yeah thatís the ticket.Ē


"Victims"...Please, elaborate

You, aside from being the biggest Troll on this site are a riot.

While you are at it, please explain how the left can claim Science is at the root of the "Global warming" argument, but "Science" is conveniently ignored when the State of New York announces it will recognize Thirty One different genders. Does not "Science" state that in the end there are only XX and XY?...Biologically, there can be NO other options.

I would like to be 30...( I am 59)...But I will walk around and tell people I identify as 30 and wish to be treated and addressed as such, Oh wait, that is biologically and scientifically, impossible.

Perhaps Elizabeth Warren can just tell people she is an Indian as wishes to be recognized as such. Science.

Presidential material?...Maybe in New York & California!

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 08:19 AM
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"Victims"...Please, elaborate


I have, a bunch of times before in a serious manner, followed by questions, and you post the Buckley quote time and time again, rather than discuss it. Sounds trollish to me.

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While you are at it, please explain how the left can claim Science is at the root of the "Global warming" argument, but "Science" is conveniently ignored when the State of New York announces it will recognize Thirty One different genders. Does not "Science" state that in the end there are only XX and XY?...Biologically, there can be NO other options.

I would like to be 30...( I am 59)...But I will walk around and tell people I identify as 30 and wish to be treated and addressed as such, Oh wait, that is biologically and scientifically, impossible.

Perhaps Elizabeth Warren can just tell people she is an Indian as wishes to be recognized as such. Science.

Presidential material?...Maybe in New York & California!


This is a perfect example of something Iíve tried to discuss, but you bail every time and post the Buckley quote.....letís admit this is all correct - that the Democrat lawmakers are being hypocritical about science in this case. Ok fine, we established that. What is your overall point? Each side does it, which means you are failing to point out how they are different. But yet look how angry it makes you when ďthe leftĒ does it. When others do it, no problem. Talk about hypocrisy. Having a personal vendetta against an entire political party isnít logical, so why do you choose to go down that road with the likes of Muleman and Goober?

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Iím comfortable with the fact that you are the only one to ever say this in all my years on the site.

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 08:29 AM
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I thought democrats are the party of science?


but will also argue that there are 31 genders.
more bullsh!t from a right wing propaganda site.

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 10:06 AM
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"Victims"...Please, elaborate


I have, a bunch of times before in a serious manner, followed by questions, and you post the Buckley quote time and time again, rather than discuss it. Sounds trollish to me.


No, not as far as I am concerned or involved. No questions, No discussion, explain to me how I am a Victim, prove yourself not to be a Troll.

How am I a victim?

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 11:10 AM
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I thought democrats are the party of science?


Interesting in that they believe in the Science of global warming, but will also argue that there are 31 genders.


In fact, science is trying to help explain and understand the various types of gender. While many are born M or F, there are many combinations a person can be born with - M and F anatomy, incomplete anatomy, testosterone levels, hormones, etc. You can laugh at it all you want, but many children are born on a spectrum between traditional M and F every day and it is great that scientists are trying to explain it. Does gender identity go overboard sometimes? Sure, but better than ignoring it completely and trying to fit everyone into 2 boxes. It's not just people, this occurs throughout the animal kingdom.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/01/how-science-helps-us-un derstand-gender-identity/

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 12:01 PM
Exactly - was going to post similar, but man why bother? People who are determined to keep biologically variant individuals in the "freak" closet are going to do so no matter what.

As far as Liz Warren's self-identification as Native American, that is her own business - she wasn't trying to officially join a tribe. It was based on her family heritage, stories passed down from her ancestors. There is zero constitutional legal basis for definition of race anyway - the race checkboxes are a broad and general way of tabulating demographics.

 

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You can laugh at it all you want, but many children are born on a spectrum between traditional M and F every day and it is great that scientists are trying to explain it. Does gender identity go overboard sometimes?


Fair enough. And I am not laughing at, life can be challenging for us all.

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 01:25 PM
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prove yourself not to be a Troll.


It doesnít work that way - the onus is on you to convince others that I am one, if thatís your goal. Good luck with that. As I said earlier, Iím comfortable that you are the only one to ever say that in all my years here.

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How am I a victim?


I donít think you are a victim. But I think a hatred for a political party, and for those who hold those political values, stems from a feeling of victimization by them in some capacity. Liberals feel victimized by Republicans over human rights, conservatives feel victimized by Obama - and each group expresses that feeling with rage and blame. In your example above about science - itís the hypocrisy that seems to bother you, but that doesnít differentiate them from anyone else. Everyone is a hypocrite, even Republicans. A liberal who denies scientific research versus the religious right who support Trump - only one hypocrisy bothers you. To finally answer the above question, since itís not about hypocrisy, I think itís about victimization.

 

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As far as Liz Warren's self-identification as Native American, that is her own business - she wasn't trying to officially join a tribe. It was based on her family heritage, stories passed down from her ancestors. There is zero constitutional legal basis for definition of race anyway - the race checkboxes are a broad and general way of tabulating demographics.


Agreed, which is why Iím baffled that she, and the left, gave this an ounce of attention. The reason why the left is losing is because they are allowing themselves to be trolled by right-wing trolls. The Pocahontas comments shouldíve been ignored and tossed aside like the garbage it is, but no, she goes and gets a meaningless DNA test because Trump fooled her into losing focus, and liberals followed. Obama would be disappointed in the leftís current strategy.

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 01:35 PM
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prove yourself not to be a Troll.


It doesnít work that way - the onus is on you to convince others that I am one, if thatís your goal. Good luck with that. As I said earlier, Iím comfortable that you are the only one to ever say that in all my years here.

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How am I a victim?


I donít think you are a victim.


Troll

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Everyone is a hypocrite, even Republicans.


Agreed.

I am not a Republican. I am a Libertarian who believes the Government has way too much say as to how we live our lives. That is the basis of the Libertarian belief system. No party is perfect, no person who ascribes to a particular party can stand with them 100% of the time. To me the Democratic Party and its beliefs and values represent MORE Government, therein lies the reason I object to democratic ideals on a much larger percentage than I do with the Republican view of everyday life. This in NO way makes me a "victim". I am merely someone who does not dance to your music or agree with your views and I offer zero apologies for that.

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 02:29 PM
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Troll


As I explained earlier, I think the three of you feel victimized, hence ďbonding together as victimsĒ, because you all feel that way, IMO. If you feel trolled, then I donít know what to tell you.

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To me the Democratic Party and its beliefs and values represent MORE Government, therein lies the reason I object to democratic ideals on a much larger percentage than I do with the Republican view of everyday life.


Fair enough. But the Buckley quote is not about this. If your motive is about government over reach, then why do you like the Buckley quote?

 

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As I explained earlier, I think the three of you feel victimized.


Are the other 2 Libertarians?...You have zero concept about how I feel as evidenced in your response. You have yet to explain how you "feel" I have been "victimized" by simply posting a contrary belief. I, on the other hand have made quite clear where my thoughts find their origin. Once again, I ask, "How does this make me a victim"?

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To me the Democratic Party and its beliefs and values represent MORE Government, therein lies the reason I object to democratic ideals on a much larger percentage than I do with the Republican view of everyday life.


Fair enough. But the Buckley quote is not about this. If your motive is about government over reach, then why do you like the Buckley quote?


The Buckley quote is absolutely non-sequitur to this attempt at conversation. I have used it in the past as as demonstration of how difficult it appears for you to accept even the remote possibility that someone might have an opinion that opposes yours. This is about your attempts at prodding those who have the audacity to offer up thoughts you disagree with, using slurs and condescension as a means trying to provoke.

This why you are a Troll

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 03:17 PM
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Are the other 2 Libertarians?..


I donít know, but the three of you appear to feel victimized by Democrats IMO.

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Once again, I ask, "How does this make me a victim"?


Well, for starters, youíve been stating that you feel trolled.

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I have used it in the past as as demonstration of how difficult it appears for you to accept even the remote possibility that someone might have an opinion that opposes yours.


Youíve used it with many other people here in many different topics. What were those reasons? Is it about Liberals being hypocrites?

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using slurs and condescension as a means trying to provoke.

This why you are a Troll


Not trying to troll you, but you donít you oppose that liberal PC crap? Why then do you need it?

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 04:07 PM
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31 genders


It's a regular biological Baskin Robbins out there!

 

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I am a Libertarian who believes the Government has way too much say as to how we live our lives. That is the basis of the Libertarian belief system. To me the Democratic Party and its beliefs and values represent MORE Government, therein lies the reason I object to democratic ideals on a much larger percentage than I do with the Republican view of everyday life.
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Ok. And when the government has way too much say as to how we live our lives, it takes away some of the peopleís rights and freedoms, correct? And when the government takes away rights and freedoms from its people, wouldnít you say they are being victimized by the government? Sort of like your stance on gun control.

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This in NO way makes me a "victim".


Agreed. But If Democrats pass a law requiring all gun owners to take exams every 2 years in order to keep their guns, would you feel as though Democrats weíre taking away your rights as a responsible gun owner?

 

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  posted on 10/16/2018 at 06:24 PM
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As far as Liz Warren's self-identification as Native American, that is her own business - she wasn't trying to officially join a tribe. It was based on her family heritage, stories passed down from her ancestors.


 

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As far as Liz Warren's self-identification as Native American, that is her own business - she wasn't trying to officially join a tribe. It was based on her family heritage, stories passed down from her ancestors. There is zero constitutional legal basis for definition of race anyway - the race checkboxes are a broad and general way of tabulating demographics.


Agreed, which is why Iím baffled that she, and the left, gave this an ounce of attention. The reason why the left is losing is because they are allowing themselves to be trolled by right-wing trolls. The Pocahontas comments shouldíve been ignored and tossed aside like the garbage it is, but no, she goes and gets a meaningless DNA test because Trump fooled her into losing focus, and liberals followed. Obama would be disappointed in the leftís current strategy.


She did it because of people like you, Boyton, who get a hard on every time a democrat tries to out-Trump Trump, with the baiting tweets and the liberal MSM Boston Globe printing this DNA test result above the fold as if it was a cure for cancer, when at best it was a flimsy inconclusive data point that proved NOTHING.





[Edited on 10/16/2018 by OriginalGoober]

 

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