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  posted on 7/10/2019 at 05:41 PM
(NPR) California has become the first state in the country to offer government-subsidized health benefits to young adults living in the U.S. illegally.

The measure signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom on Tuesday extends coverage to low-income, undocumented adults age 25 and younger for the state's Medicaid program.

Since 2016, California has allowed children under 18 to receive taxpayer-backed health care despite immigration status. And state officials expect that the plan will cover roughly 90,000 people.

The idea of giving health benefits to undocumented immigrants is supported by most of the Democratic candidates running for president, and California's move comes as the Trump administration continues to ramp up its hard-line crackdown on illegal immigration. On Tuesday, Newsom said the state law draws a sharp contrast with Trump's immigration policies.

"If you believe in universal health care, you believe in universal health care," Newsom said. "We are the most un-Trump state in America when it comes to health policy."

In California, extending health benefits to undocumented immigrants is widely popular. A March survey conducted by the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California found that almost two-thirds of state residents support providing coverage to young adults who are not legally authorized to live in the country.

California, the institute notes, has more immigrants than any other state. And an estimated 14% of them are living in the state without legal status.

A national poll suggests that many Americans across the country are far less accepting of the notion of giving health coverage to those who came into the U.S. illegally. A CNN poll conducted after the Democratic debates last month found that 59% of those surveyed do not think government-backed health coverage should be provided to undocumented immigrants.

California's Budget Proposal Would Expand Health Care To Some Undocumented Immigrants
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California's Budget Proposal Would Expand Health Care To Some Undocumented Immigrants
In most states, people living in the country illegally are not eligible for federal health insurance programs like Medicaid and Medicare, except in some cases, like medical emergencies and pregnancies, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Republican lawmakers in California criticized the law, arguing that the state should be spending health care dollars on those living in the state legally.

"We are going to be a magnet that is going to further attract people to a state of California that's willing to write a blank check to anyone that wants to come here," said Republican state Sen. Jeff Stone at a May legislative hearing. "We are doing a disservice to citizens who legally call California their home."

The plan does not cover all unauthorized immigrants under 25, only those whose incomes are low enough to qualify. State officials estimate in the first year the program will cover about 138,000 residents and cost California taxpayers $98 million.

Trump has publicly attacked Newsom's plans.

"It's crazy what they're doing. It's crazy," Trump told reporters last week. "And it's mean, and it's very unfair to our citizens. And we're going to stop it, but we may need an election to stop it."

 

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  posted on 7/10/2019 at 08:02 PM
trump can't be voted out soon enough.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2019 at 09:20 PM
Grrr! Iím so angry! This is an outrage!

Iím kidding. I support state rights to do as they please. I support TX right to execute killers at the rate they do. It might provide for a safer community. Iíd be pissed if a Democrat president interferes with that, and id be just as disappointed if Trump intervenes.

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Grrr! Iím so angry! This is an outrage!

Iím kidding. I support state rights to do as they please. I support TX right to execute killers at the rate they do. It might provide for a safer community. Iíd be pissed if a Democrat president interferes with that, and id be just as disappointed if Trump intervenes.


I agree with you. The loudest voice here must come from the people of California...

We'll see

 

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  posted on 7/10/2019 at 10:03 PM
I'm for smart legislation and that's not what we are getting. Everything is agenda and race driven. It's sad. I'm all for criminal reform, but with intelligence. I believe in the death penalty for excessively violent murderous crimes. You purposely kill and there's is no question of absolute guilt you should die.

If it's non violent drug sales and other money to survive schemes without guns then yes adjust the punishment to give criminals a 2nd chance, but some folks need to be in jail. I just a news story the other day an armed robber was sentenced to 5 years in jail and was let out in 3 years, as soon as he got out he pulled off another armed robbery and killed an off duty unarmed policeman.


We need smart legislation no matter who is in the White House, Senate, or House Of Congress. Folks should let go of the political animosity and pay attention to who is doing what for why in our country.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2019 at 07:31 AM
As a physician in an underserved area you have no clue how many people who are jusst across the border and/or are here illegally are already getting medical insurance
 

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As a physician in an underserved area you have no clue how many people who are jusst across the border and/or are here illegally are already getting medical insurance


Does that make it OK?

 

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  posted on 7/11/2019 at 02:00 PM
Itís not ideal in the least bit, and I wish we didnít have to, but itís humane and kind, and Iím proud that weíre doing it.
 

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Itís not ideal in the least bit, and I wish we didnít have to, but itís humane and kind, and Iím proud that weíre doing it.


Who pays for the majority of this service?

 

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As a physician in an underserved area you have no clue how many people who are jusst across the border and/or are here illegally are already getting medical insurance


Does that make it OK?


Not in the least. Gov't (?state or fed?) lying through its teeth.

I have no problem with compassion; but we lack the resources to care for our citizens.

When people came from Europe c1900 there was little that medicine could do. Now someone can cost us millions (chronic dialysis etc)

this is a tough situation

 

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Who pays for the majority of this service?


we both know that answer, but Iím still proud that weíre doing it because itís humane and kind. just make your point.


 

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  posted on 7/11/2019 at 08:31 PM


From the article: "Wildly" popular idea" Yeah?, ok. I doubt that . Fake news.

 

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From the article: "Wildly" popular idea" Yeah?, ok. I doubt that . Fake news.
The only "fake news" comes from the orange blob's pie hole, and state TV (fox news)

 

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we both know that answer, but Iím still proud that weíre doing it because itís humane and kind. just make your point. Here


Here's my point. You are proud that we the taxpayers are doing this. It's not my burden, nor is it the burden of the taxpayer. You like this idea and therefore we should all accept it as "the right thing to do"?. Where does it stop? How many asylum seekers before the system implodes?

You pay for it, but please do not expect everyone to else to...Just because the Democratic Party has chosen this as a big issue does make it morally right or humane. It is not our problem.

 

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It's not my burden, nor is it the burden of the taxpayer. You like this idea and therefore we should all accept it as "the right thing to do"?. Where does it stop? How many asylum seekers before the system implodes?

You pay for it, but please do not expect everyone to else to...Just because the Democratic Party has chosen this as a big issue does make it morally right or humane. It is not our problem.


all I hear is a bunch of whining, bellyaching, and scapegoating, yet again.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2019 at 11:26 AM
Save us all a lot of guesswork if these guys would just come right out with it and say shoot them all. Instead of all this roundabout outraged wishwash damning civilized answers.
 

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Here's my point. You are proud that we the taxpayers are doing this. It's not my burden, nor is it the burden of the taxpayer. You like this idea and therefore we should all accept it as "the right thing to do"?. Where does it stop? How many asylum seekers before the system implodes?

You pay for it, but please do not expect everyone to else to...Just because the Democratic Party has chosen this as a big issue does make it morally right or humane. It is not our problem.


Affordable Health Care is a big issue, and coverage denials or drug costs aren't restricted to one party or the other. That's the BIG issue, and I don't understand the refusal by some to fight any sort of reform that opens the door for basic, affordable medical treatment. The "I got mine, go get your own" attitude that props up Insurance Companies, rather than finding a solution to the problem is absolutely selfish.

However, regarding illegal immigrants, you seem to think this means illegal immigrants are receiving expensive transplants or cancer treatments on the taxpayer dime. They're not, if anything they are avoiding treatment because medical care is a way of being "documented". But if a sick kid brought here illegally needs some antibiotics but can't afford it, she is our burden until deported. And any property owner knows that if it happens on your property, it's your responsibility.

You're ok paying for their cages, but not their medical treatment?

 

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Not ok paying for cages either. What they want is Purina to set up factories along the border and process them into dog kibble.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

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It's not my burden, nor is it the burden of the taxpayer. You like this idea and therefore we should all accept it as "the right thing to do"?. Where does it stop? How many asylum seekers before the system implodes?

You pay for it, but please do not expect everyone to else to...Just because the Democratic Party has chosen this as a big issue does make it morally right or humane. It is not our problem.


all I hear is a bunch of whining, bellyaching, and scapegoating, yet again.


Hear whatever you like. This will be the issue that breaks the Democratic Party in the 2020 election. The nation is not ready to swing this far to the left and the Presidential Candidate the Dems send out in November of '20 will sink to the bottom with this firmly in his pocket. Call it racism or insensitivity....it's a loser.

 

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It's not my burden, nor is it the burden of the taxpayer. You like this idea and therefore we should all accept it as "the right thing to do"?. Where does it stop? How many asylum seekers before the system implodes?

You pay for it, but please do not expect everyone to else to...Just because the Democratic Party has chosen this as a big issue does make it morally right or humane. It is not our problem.


all I hear is a bunch of whining, bellyaching, and scapegoating, yet again.


Hear whatever you like. This will be the issue that breaks the Democratic Party in the 2020 election. The nation is not ready to swing this far to the left and the Presidential Candidate the Dems send out in November of '20 will sink to the bottom with this firmly in his pocket. Call it racism or insensitivity....it's a loser.


The way you and others carry on about this Iím expecting to read that expanding Taco Tuesday to 3 for 5 is going to be seen as a desecration of American values.

Tell you what. Iíll hop on the anti-immigrant bus, legal or illegal, when I see a team of white Americans on a roof boiling in 110 degree heat, or out on a construction or ditch crew, bussing a table, landscaping some flowers and mulch, or cooking in a restaurant kitchen.

Tired of illegals living among you? How about you take it up with the Americans that hire them rather than finding any way you can to scapegoat liberals for all the ills you see in society.

As to the OP, doesnít it really come down to whether or not one chooses to run their humanity through a patriotic lens...or not?

 

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Ok so what is the "right thing to do" ?
 

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  posted on 7/13/2019 at 06:36 PM
I hear the Right Wing screaming about Democrats backing losing issues. If that is the case why don't you just STFU and let them lose? I am way to the Left of the Democratic Party. I'm patiently waiting to see what America decides. I don't trust the media to foretell the future and I certainly don't think the team players, Right or Left, know what will happen.

I'm betting on Mother Earth and rising sea levels. The United States has been run into the ground by the folks in political power. The electorate has made their choice. The next five years are going to be brutal.

 

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  posted on 7/13/2019 at 08:35 PM
Hey Billy B!.
 

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  posted on 7/13/2019 at 11:10 PM
It's sad to watch the fear that some people have to say what they really feel. Instead they conjure up scapegoat stories in the news to hint towards their point. They know they'll sound terrible if they are honest, so they drum up a fake campaign to send their message in code. I'm so glad I don't have this problem.
 
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