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  posted on 7/13/2004 at 02:02 PM
there is a pretty good bootleg CD floating around of the dead with duane sitting in. starts out with bob weir saying to the audience "we have duane allman helping out tonight..." my version of this CD is entitled 'Dead Session, the grateful dead at fillmore east with special guest duane allman" april 26 1971. duane plays on i think three tunes: sugar magnolia, it's hurt me too, and down the line. the company for this CD is hawg leg records out of luxemburg. good recording quality with some great slide playing on the blues tracks from duane and some interesting 'regular' guitar interplay between jerry and duane on sugar magnolia.
re: the dead in piedmont park right after the first atlanta pop festival in july 1969-- i was there and the lineup that evening was as follows: chigago transit authority, spirit, delaney and bonnie and the dead. DUANE AND/OR GREGG DID NOT SIT IN AT THIS GIG> however, there was a show at the atlanta civic auditorium where the allmans opened for the dead and as correctly stated by someone else here loaned the dead their sound equipment as for some reason the dead's didnt make to atlanta in time for the show. it is likely they jameed together at some point that night.

 

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  posted on 7/13/2004 at 02:17 PM
Though Duane didn't play, you got to see Terry Kath, a fantastic picker. Saw him once and still miss his guitar and voice.

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  posted on 7/13/2004 at 02:26 PM
carlos- terry kath was indeed an underrated player and the early chicago transit authority was quite good, but for me the guitarist of that night was randy california!
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  posted on 7/13/2004 at 03:47 PM
*carlos- terry kath was indeed an underrated player and the early chicago transit authority was quite good, but for me the guitarist of that night was randy california!*

I just got his Kapt. Kopter album (as an import, of course)-Wild, wild album!

 

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  posted on 7/13/2004 at 07:49 PM
miamibeach, I went to that web site your mentioned and did not see the Dead w/ Duane at all. Were would I get a copy of that CD? Can you help me out?
Also Randy Califorina ruled in his day. I have a album clled Kaptain Koper anf the Twirlly Birds. It is Randy Cal. Band and they are get......very trippy stuff but I can not get it on CD. I need to transfer it from LP to CD.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 09:08 AM
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i think i got my copy of the show at the fillmore of the dead with duane sitting in (4-26-71) off of ebay. as i recall it wasnt too pricey either. maybe someone else here could be of assistance in tracking it down for you. contact me directly and maybe i could burn a copy for you if you like. while it is a pretty good quality recording i personally dont think it is essential duane--still a nice historical artifact with some tasty slide playing from mr. allman.
the recording i would LOVE to hear is the one discussed in these forums of duane and the allmans jamming with peter green... in my opinion duane and peter had the BEST tonal qualities as well as impeccible phrasing of any of the 'white' blues guys!
BTW for those into somewhat more adventerous peter green check out his recording entitled 'the end of the game' which is readily available from amazon.com--spacey jazz rock a la miles' bitches brew with peter's wah wah guitar as the dominant voice.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 09:24 AM
RE: 'the end of the game'

I used to have that lp, pretty spacey material and I remember Zoot Money as the piano player(?) IIRC, Green recorded Game right after he left FM.

Also, check out Green's "In Disguise", the title a play on the work "In the skies" and featuring artwork of Green's features hidden among clouds.

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 09:38 AM
Hey Miami,

Every ABB bootleg you can buy on Ebay, we have here at this website for the asking, or at most, the price of postage and blanks....

There are something like 50 Duane shows ranging from very good sound quality to sh!t sound, but they are here, and they are free, basically....check out the Trades forum...there are some very fine people in there, spreading the music and vision of Duane like people possessed....

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 12:12 PM
*Also Randy Califorina ruled in his day. I have a album clled Kaptain Koper anf the Twirlly Birds. It is Randy Cal. Band and they are get......very trippy stuff but I can not get it on CD. I need to transfer it from LP to CD.*

I found my cd copy through an import cd/record distributor on the internet. It wasn't too difficult to locate, & fortunately it's still in print.

Now, Ginger Baker's Airforce album was a TOUGH find on compact disc.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 03:54 PM
I was always a big fan of Terry Kath. Terry Kath might have not sounded all that great live, but his studio stuff kicked ass.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 03:57 PM
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Now, Ginger Baker's Airforce album was a TOUGH find on compact disc.


I've found a new copy of Ginger Baker's Airforce album on amazon.com for $40.00. I don't even remember anything about that album.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 04:44 PM
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Every ABB bootleg you can buy on Ebay, we have here at this website for the asking, or at most, the price of postage and blanks....

So don't buy anymore, and tell all the people you know who do buy ABB bootlegs. Seriously, it sucks to see people pay money - sometimes a LOT of it - for shows that dozens of us have.

 

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  posted on 7/15/2004 at 10:39 AM
*I've found a new copy of Ginger Baker's Airforce album on amazon.com for $40.00. I don't even remember anything about that album.*

Cool project. Like Ginger's attempt at a big band.

Other albums I had trouble finding were.....Harmony Row by Jack Bruce, before it was reissued. Hmm, Chris Squire's solo album......Nick Gravenites' My Labors (again, before it was reissued on cd)......actually found David Gilmour's solo effort pretty easily.

Currently, Gregg Allman's One More Try is a REAL tough one to find. Even with his most recent anthology, One More Try is the one to have. Luckily, I found a copy a few years ago.

 

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  posted on 8/1/2004 at 10:26 AM
Clooector's Choice has Ginger Baker's Airforce for $17.95. I found Kaptain Kopter on Cd one time but can not find the site again.
 

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May I jump in on this conversation, albeit to change the subject. Another album that seems impossible to find on CD is "On The Road to Freedom" by Alvin Lee & Mylon Lefevbre. Anybody know anything?
Also, what about Canned Heat's "Live at Totanga"? Now that is a real blues album -- again, a toughie to track down though.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2004 at 08:18 AM
Stephen wrote: Also, what about Canned Heat's "Live at Totanga"? Now that is a real blues album -- again, a toughie to track down though"

I have that one, it was not really recorded at Topanga, but at a different location in about 68 or 69. They were unhappy with their contract and used the Topanga title to throw off Liberty and collect extra monies.

There is a book called 60s Rock Explosion that carries details about the whole episode.

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 10:42 PM
I was lucky enough to see Randy California play with Spirit at the Fillmore East in March 1968 (I was in high school). He was amazing, and might have still been in his teens. Spirit was 2nd on the bill. Credence Clearwater Revival was headliner - what a great show!

As for the Allmans jamming with Peter Green, as far as I know, that took place at another show I was lucky enough to be at - the 2/11/70 late show at Fillmore East with the ABB opening, Love 2nd bill, and the Grateful Dead headlining. The jam that took place at the end of the Dead's set included all of the Dead, most of the ABB and most of Fleetwood Mac. It's on some CD's, but I've never really heard one with good sound quality.

 

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  posted on 8/4/2004 at 05:33 PM
Getting back to the original show mentioned - ie. the GD w/ Duane, 4/26/71 - it's intersting to note that the GD's 4cd compilation of that Fillmore East run of shows ("Ladies & Gentlemen...The Grateful Dead") did not feature a single song recorded on 26th, with or without Duane.

It was mooted a few years back that the powers that be in the Dead's organisation planned to issue the April 26th show in its' entirety, though nothing ever came of it, as no doubt the usual legal issues took over.

The fact that the Dead are STILL withholding release of all previously-unreleased songs from this night suggest at least that they've never given up on the idea...

 
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