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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 04:58 PM
This is not a Skynyrd bashing thread...OK...with that said I'll go on.

Public tickets went on sale in Houston a few days ago and so the stations are pushing the tickets and give-aways...I know it's marketing and thats all fine and dandy but it's a real shame that every time they play an ad or comment on the show they go straight into a Skynyrd tune and hardly even mention the ABB. Pity Pity Pity....I don't mind the Skynyrd but sure would like to here a few ABB tunes to pump up the show..not that I need any pumping up. After all they are HEADLINING.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 05:07 PM
I guess they are marketing to the masses and LS has had better success with mainstream radio. We all know who will be better.
 

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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 05:46 PM
Does anyone know if Warren or anyone else has come out to play with LS?? As many times as I've heard Freebird, the only way it could ever have the same affect on me as it once did, is if Warren sang it.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 07:38 PM
Unlikely Warren would sing with them. Very unlikely he would sing their encore song. But you are on the right track, they should let Warren sing them all!
 

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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 09:25 PM
i think warren could really do justice to the song swamp music. that deep, bluesy voice he has would be perfect to get down and muddy.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 09:36 PM
Let's just REALLY twist the **** up and have the core Skynyrd band come out and play a BLISTERING encore of Whipping Post, and then right into Free Bird...
 

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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 10:01 PM
I think Skynyrd should stay on their side of the stage and The Brothers stay on theirs...
...and this mess will all be over before we know it.

 
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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 11:14 PM
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I think Skynyrd should stay on their side of the stage and The Brothers stay on theirs...
...and this mess will all be over before we know it.

Is/wasn't it already spelled out?
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  posted on 9/9/2004 at 11:32 PM
Yes, it is already spelled out. I was just being sarcastic because I don't particularly like the double-bill - and I'm not alone in my feelings on the subject. In fact its been discusssed quite a bit here recently that most feel this is a bad fit for The ABB and their fans...thats it. Just a little humor is all...



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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 12:04 AM
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Let's just REALLY twist the **** up and have the core Skynyrd band come out and play a BLISTERING encore of Whipping Post, and then right into Free Bird...

And then none of the drunks in the audience will know what song to yell. Brilliant! It'd sound like **** because it would require LS to improvise, but as a mindfuck, it's great.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 12:24 AM
It's OK to say mindfu*k here?!

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 12:33 AM
Well, it's not bleeped out.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 12:35 AM
This isn't the true Skynyrd or any close semblance of its former self. This is a big favour on the part of the the Brothers to help the rest of the band go off with some decent scratch.
 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 06:51 AM
Skynyrd has done at least two live albums in the past couple of years, and most of the material on them is from the old days, and duplicated. Are they going to play the same setlist every night they openfor the ABB? Co-headliners indeed! When Phil & Friends toured with the Brothers they were true co-headliners and switched slots every night. But then, both bands had the talent to do so. I'll bet that LS even has the exact same patter in between songs each night!

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 08:02 AM
Well I started this thread mostly to complain about the local programming here in Houston ......low and behold I listened to IMOER all the way to work this morning. I must give them credit when credit is due.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 08:06 AM
hmmmnnn....

I vote for warren doing "the ballad of Curtis Lowe" or "Simple man"

not that it matters....but i know he would tear them up.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 08:42 AM
That just made me think, "what LS songs has Warren covered?"

Just Simple Man?

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 08:55 AM
Tuesday's Gone with the Wind or Smokestack Lightnin' or acoustic Simple Man or Curtis Loew.............
 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 09:06 AM
LS and ABB= 5 guitar overload.

Wonder if ABB will play much of Desdemona (jazz?!?!) or Who's Been Talkin' (whut tha heck?)

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 09:21 AM
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This isn't the true Skynyrd or any close semblance of its former self. This is a big favour on the part of the the Brothers to help the rest of the band go off with some decent scratch.


With all due respect, you must crazy! Skynyrd does not need anyone to help them make money, they have more money then they could ever use.

You're not a real music fan are you? I'm actually huge fans of both bands the ABB and Skynyrd. They've both been through probably more then most bands in their careers. They've both lost a lot of Love ones along the way and that's why I can truly relate to both bands.

My guess is you've never played music in your entire life, if you had then possibly you would have greater respect for musicians. It's a very long hard road indeed, that I know all too well.

I go way back with both groups and to say this lineup of Skynyrd doesn't resemble the original is idiotic. It's true in a way, but they're still very close nit. I Love Warren Haynes, but to suggest he should sing Free Bird is assanine to say the least. I do not think anyone but Ronnie Van Zant's younger brother Johnnie Van Zant should sing it.

Both bands actually have very similar roots. I remember back in the late 60's and early 70's seeing the ABB when they went by the Allman Joys and that's when Skynyrd went by the name One Percent as they both played in bars around Jacksonville and the entire Gulf Coast. The Allman Joys came down to the J-Ville area as music really started to hop down in that area and eventually both groups ended up in Muscle Shoals, AL. to record along with the Marshall Tucker Band and Wet Willie.

It's true Skynyrd has lost Ronnie Van Zant, Stevie Gaines, Cassie Gaines, Allen Collins and Leon Wilkeson over the years, just like the ABB lost Duane and Berry Oakley also Allen Woody who BTW was very best friend with Synyrds bass player Leon Wilkeson. Both groups were very good friends with one another over the years. They both got their starts admiring the same late great Miss. Blues guitarist Robert Johnson, that's why they both covered his great hit Crossroads. Johnson was the favorite of both Duane and Ronnie Van Zant.

I know both groups very well as I played with a band in the 70's and early 80's called Grey Ghost out of Gulf Shores, AL. We covered a lot of music from both groups. I had the priviliage of meeting members of both groups. I know for a fact, that members of the ABB would be disappointed by the dissing of Skynyrd by their own fans.

Even the current members of Skynyrd go way back with the band as Rickey Medlocke who is a guitarist who replaced Allen Collins when he passed away from complications from being paralyzed was the original drummer for Skynyrd when they were going by the name One Percent, he of course went on to some fame with the group Blackfoot before returning to Skynyrd. The guitar player who replaced Stevie Gaines Huey Thomasson used to record with the band way back in Muscle Shoals as he started his own band the Outlaws with Tampa native Henry Paul. They toured all the time with Skynyrd as they were best friends. Then of course you have RVZ's little brother taking over for his big brother. Just like the ABB have evolved and adjusted over the years, so has Skynyrd.

Like I said both groups are my two favorite of all time. I just hate when people trash either one for some reason.

These are a couple of my most prized possesions as they're photos of Duane and Greg when they were playing local bars as the Allman Joys. These are from a bar on JiVille Beach called Funochio's, which had the best live bands. I also got a photo or the early Atlanta Rhythm Section, they were going by the name The Candymen.

Actually when they all got together in Muscle Shoals, Skynyrd decided to go their own way while the ABB, Marshall Tucker and Wet Willie signed with Capricorn Records. Skynyrd split back to J-Ville and hooked up with Al Kooper and signed with a new label called MCA records along with ARS.











I have my tickets for the October 2nd show in Charlotte, NC. I am very much looking forward to it indeed. I saw Skynyrd last year down here in Orlando at Universal Studios and I saw the ABB last down here in Clearwater on their Peach Party tour in 2002.

They keep saying this is the first time the two groups have played together since 1974, which is technically correct, but they actually played together in 1980 at the Dixie Jam in Mobile, AL. when Skynyrd came back after their crash as the Rossington Collins Band. It was an all day event with the ABB, RCB, Leon Ruseel, the Charlie Daniels Band, Blackfoot, Wet Willie and Cheap Trick.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 09:24 AM
*sigh*

here we go again.....

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 09:25 AM
Nice post Flora. Both great bands.


No need to diss on anyone in my opinion.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 09:30 AM
i happen to enjoy Skynyrd alot myself....

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 09:31 AM
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*sigh*

here we go again.....




I'm with you on that comment, it's truly sad, that someone has to always try to tear something down to build their favorite up.


Music, it's a tight nit community as you know what it's like and when someone does a cover of one of your hits you're normally pretty appreciative, that someone admires your music enough to do that.

Being a musician is a very long hard road indeed, I know this all too well. Most musicians have nothing but respect for one another, it's too bad fans do not think the same way.

Speaking of the tune Simple Man? Here is a brand new band who does a cover of the tune on their new CD. The leader of this group "Shinedown" is actually the son-in-law of the late great Ronnie Van Zant of Skynyrd. He's married to Ronnies only daughter Melody. The producer and manger of this group is Judy Van Zant, Ronnies widow and they are from Jacksonville.


http://buzztone.atlanticrecords.com/shinedown_simpleman/ " target=_blank> http://buzztone.atlanticrecords.com/shinedown_simpleman/

 

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  posted on 9/10/2004 at 10:21 AM
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This is not a Skynyrd bashing thread...OK...with that said I'll go on.



These were the first lines I opened this thread with because I knew how this would turn. I've been a Skynyrd fan for many years....I was actually commenting more on the media and marketing in the Houston area......and trying to reach 1000 posts

 

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