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  posted on 1/28/2008 at 01:02 PM
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i saw 2 instant live show's on e-bay for around $50. i just e-mailed e-bay and told them what the deal was. dickhead's


huh? what are you talking about? were they burned copies or the actual product? once someone buy a cd legit they can sell it on ebay for whatever price they choose. they already paid for the product and the money that the band would get off of it was made
they did not show the cover, that's prob why. people try to rip each other off all the time on e-bay. i think they just burned a copy and now are selling them. who is going to buy an instant live on e-bay for $50 when you can get a new one for $20 on h.t.n. just lookin out .

 

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  posted on 2/22/2008 at 02:50 PM
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i know the instant lives are hot item and ive got several myself from the shows from previous shows. Does anyone know how many they produce @ each show?
 

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  posted on 4/30/2008 at 05:34 AM
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i know the instant lives are hot item and ive got several myself from the shows from previous shows. Does anyone know how many they produce @ each show?


we usually do 100 per show.last summer i think we printed 150 at a couple of shows.

 

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As the thread regarding the date of the "Peach Cobbler 6" Mountain Jam recording keeps sinking down the list, I thought I would post this here so that if anybody has any subsequent input in the forthcoming weeks / months, then they would be able to post here too ...

The original perceived date that the show was traded under of 5/23 has been ruled out and is definitely not the correct date of this show. To bring you up to date on the latest thoughts on this matter, I have copied some posts over from another thread on this subject . . .

First let me take you back through some linked posts by Joe Bell and Ann Sandlin . . .

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JNB: David Michaelson also remembers a show originally scheduled for Gordy Tire on Peachtree street a few days after the 1st Atlanta Pop Festival that got changed at the last minute to the Agora Ballroom.


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Ann: I know there was the one in November 22/23, 1969 but that didn't seem to be at the ballroom, although there is some question as to whether the venue was changed at the last minute and could well have been played there.


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Ann: When I read the earlier (JNB) post I thought it sounded a little familiar and did some checking. Here is what I've got:

"Unless there are two separate instances, the show mentioned was not a few days after the 1st Atlanta Pop unless that festival was in November of 69. The show I think being referenced was scheduled for the Duke Tire Warehouse on 11th and Peachtree, November 22/23 and hastily changed to the Agora Ballroom when the Warehouse was condemned by the city. The price was raised from $3 to $4 when the venue changed."


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JNB: I couldn't remember if it was Gordy Tire or Duke - but the location you mention is absolutely correct. Evidently, according to David Michaelson (who is a very serious collector/historian and participant of that time period), the higher-ups at Duke Tire didn't know that their place was going to be used for a “hippie” concert and the concert had to move to another venue when they found out about it. Then it had to move again. The ABB had people at the first Atlanta Pop spreading the word about the concert but hardly anyone came to the Agora as the venue had changed twice in a very short time. The 1st Atlanta Pop Festival was in July - so this particular show that David speaks of must have been in mid July of '69.


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Ann: Question....since there is a venue of Duke Tire Company listed for November 1969 which is not too long after the Piedmont Festival, is there any possibility it wasn't the Atlanta Pop Festival but rather the Piedmont? Otherwise, how would the band be scheduled to play Duke Tire Company after they'd already been turned away? Just trying to make sense of some things.


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JNB: That's a real good point - I'll check with David and revisit the time frames.


Now, listen to what Duane says at the introduction of the encore: “This next song we are about to do is a little bit out of character, but we think it is appropriate

I had thought it strange that they should play this particular encore, as it was more commonly used as a set opener, the appropriate encore being “Don’t Want You No More”. Could Duane calling this "appropriate" be a reference to the fact that their show had been moved from a location that they were no longer welcome at and they ended up at the ballroom as discussed above?

Furthermore, there is very little crowd noise on this recording, suggesting a small audience in attendance as attested by David Michaelson.

As Ann also said in an earlier post, the best lead we will have is getting the information on all the shows the ABB played for Alex Cooley, and identifying the (first?) one played at the Ballroom instead of the Duke Tire Co.

Although this evidence points to the show being the one that was relocated, which was supposedly in November ’69, my ears tell me this show should be from the spring of 1970. I spent one morning listening to the various traded shows from the ‘70s and concur with most other people’s observations that the Mountain Jam is very similar to the Ludlow Garage version, but perhaps a little bit more developed than that one, whilst slightly less developed / different to the Atlanta Pop Festival version.

Furthermore, Ann told us that the Statesboro Blues from this particular show (which has not yet been transferred from analogue to digital) has a double ending. I have checked out all the commercial releases and traded versions of Statesboro Blues from that era and note the following:

01 / 16 / 70 ... FILLMORE WEST – SAN FRANCISCO ..... NORMAL ENDING
01 / 20 / 70 ... UC – RIVERSIDE ..... NO STATESBORO
02 / 11 / 70 ... FILLMORE EAST – NEW YORK ..... NORMAL ENDING
02 / 14 / 70 ... FILLMORE EAST – NEW YORK ..... NO STATESBORO
03 / 13 / 70 ... WAREHOUSE – NEW ORLEANS ..... NO STATESBORO
04 / 04 / 70 ... LUDLOW GARAGE – CINCINNATI ..... DOUBLE ENDING
04 / 28 / 70 ... S.U.N.Y. – STONYBROOK ..... DOUBLE ENDING
05 / 02 / 70 ... SWARTHMORE COLLEGE ..... DOUBLE ENDING
06 / 14 / 70 ... PIEDMONT PARK – ATLANTA ..... NO STATESBORO
07 / 03 / 70 ... BYRON – GEORGIA ..... DOUBLE ENDING

07 / 05 / 70 ... BYRON – GEORGIA ..... NORMAL ENDING
07 / 17 / 70 ... LOVE VALLEY FESTIVAL ..... NORMAL ENDING
07 / 19 / 70 ... LOVE VALLEY FESTIVAL ..... NO STATESBORO
07 / 26 / 70 ... S.U.N.Y. – STONYBROOK ..... NO STATESBORO
09 / 04 / 70 ... THE SCENE – MILWAUKEE ..... NORMAL ENDING
09 / 27 / 70 ... PIEDMONT PARK – ATLANTA ..... NO STATESBORO
12 / 13 / 70 ... AMERICAN UNIVERSITY – WASHINGTON ..... NORMAL ENDING
12 / 31 / 70 ... WAREHOUSE - NEW ORLEANS ..... NORMAL ENDING

As can be seen, based upon these recordings, the experimentation with a double ending on Statesboro Blues also spans the Ludlow Garage to Atlanta Pop period.

Based upon this, I am pretty sure that the new recording is from sometime between April and June 1970.

Subsequently, Matt (origapch) added the following:

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While we are continuing to uncover and get closer to the records where we hope an answer lies as to the exact dates that the Allman Brothers played at the Georgian Terrace Hotel Ballroom, other details are starting to surface. I had a very interesting conversation with an Atlanta historian about the Georgian Terrace Hotel and Ballroom a few days ago.

I must have asked a hundred questions and fortunately was talking to someone who had grown up in Atlanta as I did and could fill in many of the blanks for the questions I asked. The Allman Brothers played several shows in the Grand Ballroom in the spring of 1970. This is the same ballroom that hosted the reception gala for the opening of the movie "Gone With The Wind" in 1939. The ballroom was on the 1st or ground floor. I vaguely remember going to an event there in the late 60's, it was a huge open room with a drop ceiling and there was no bar set up. They had portable stations they brought in and set up for events.


Matt had previously established that the Ballroom was not called the Agora at this time, and so although we are still not sure of the exact date, the show venue is confirmed as ...

“The Ballroom at the Georgian Terrace Hotel – Atlanta”






[Edited on 5/25/2008 by harvey]

 

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  posted on 8/19/2008 at 12:34 PM
this may be a day late and a dollar short, but i have really fallen in love with the
last HTN Archive release- 8/17/71 Boston Commons...
this is an ususal show and took a while to grow on me, but is now amongst my favorites.......
Brother Berry is leading the pack...
Gregg is in great voice....
check out the machine gun drums on DKMW....
Duane is hot and juicey on both the LP and the SG......
Dickey is pickin' away.....
always looking forward to more in the future......

 

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  posted on 8/28/2008 at 10:07 PM
Nothing to add here.....

Just wanted to be on the big screen for awhile.....

 

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  posted on 8/28/2008 at 10:28 PM
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ABBCujo should understand that not even he is allowed to trade/burn instant lives like he does.




 

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  posted on 8/29/2008 at 09:20 AM
Not good - hope it not's true......
We love and should do whatever if possible (not to mention that it's the only "right thing to do")
to support Hittin' The Note so that we continue to have Archive releases and Instant Lives....
.....No ifs, ands, or butts.... Please do the right thing

[Edited on 8/30/2008 by PeachNutt]

 

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  posted on 9/1/2008 at 12:44 PM
Don't feed trolls.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 06:05 AM
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Not good - hope it not's true......
We love and should do whatever if possible (not to mention that it's the only "right thing to do")
to support Hittin' The Note so that we continue to have Archive releases and Instant Lives....
.....No ifs, ands, or butts.... Please do the right thing

[Edited on 8/30/2008 by PeachNutt]


No Gary it is not true...

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:40 PM
This would be one of those things i would scratch my head and ask what the purpose is of trying to rat and upstanding person out. I immediately discount it as rubbbbbbbbish.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 12:41 PM
wharfman - glad to hear it.....
I sure hope a new Archive release is coming soon

 

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  posted on 10/21/2008 at 08:57 AM
I dunno bout ABB sdb trading , but the ratdog sbds are a free for all. They are traded all the time. WHich is a shame IMO. Sum the ppl just got too spoiled w sbds, i remember being used to a good aud tape back in the day. When i got a crisp sbd it was like christmas. Now the idiots have ruined all that trading sbds and thus ruining alot things for the ppl who really enjoy them. Alot times these **** s that trade the sdbs dont even listen to half the sbds, they jus stockpile them soo they can say " i have all the ratdog sbds form 03-08 bla bla bla to feed their pathetic speel of how heady they are.. Makes me sick really

 

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  posted on 10/21/2008 at 10:34 AM
I'm not sure this is sacrilege, but why can't there be an option to buy specific songs from specific shows? I've heard 100 people say Les Brers from the 9-30-08 show is really special. I'd love to be able to buy just that for $____, vs. spending $25 on the whole show.
 

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  posted on 10/21/2008 at 10:47 AM
Check www.abblive.com

Doesn't have individual songs, but the downloads are $14.95 as opposed to $25 for the CD's.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2008 at 11:33 AM
can we get an archive show with a "don't want you no more/ not my cross to bear" segue by the original band?
 

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  posted on 12/20/2008 at 06:48 PM

 

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[Edited on 2/28/2009 by Enzo]

 

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  posted on 5/19/2009 at 11:37 AM
rowland- I've got a problem with my Instant Live Recording from Oakland, 5/13. It's missing the last 3 songs on the 2nd CD. Do you know who can address this isssue? thx (rx6365@att.com) - - Rojamo
 

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  posted on 9/29/2009 at 11:23 PM
There is no ambiguity there. Nothing subject to interpretation.

INSTANT LIVE RECORDINGS ARE NOT FOR TRADE!*

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  posted on 5/16/2010 at 11:47 PM
I should care more about this!

 

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  posted on 6/14/2010 at 01:45 AM
I support this policy. Everyone should practice what is fair to the band.
 

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I was in a record store (not even sure if they still call it that anymore) last weekend in my town and noticed the guy was selling ABB ILs for $40 a piece. I would imagine that is not legal either? What should the course of action be with regard to this? Its not trading technically, but it doesn't seem on the up and up to me.
 

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  posted on 1/8/2012 at 04:45 AM
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I was in a record store (not even sure if they still call it that anymore) last weekend in my town and noticed the guy was selling ABB ILs for $40 a piece. I would imagine that is not legal either? What should the course of action be with regard to this? Its not trading technically, but it doesn't seem on the up and up to me.


was it the official thing or copies he made?

 
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