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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 10:31 AM
I haven't heard this album in 20 years. Yesterday at Wal-mart I picked up a copy for $5.88 on cd. I love this album! I've read some bad reviews on this disc before but I don't understand why.
 
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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 10:46 AM
Good find. I like "Enlightened Rogues", although I do consider it the most "southern rock" of all the ABB recordings and as such, it hasn't aged as well as some of their other recording such as "Fillmore East" and "Eat a Peach" or even "Brothers and Sisters". But nevertheless, I still listen to it from time to time. Actually, I consider it and "Seven Turns" as good "comeback" recording for the band.
 
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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 11:01 AM
I think its a good, but not a great album although when it came out I was pretyy darn pumped and ran to the store to buy it. Not bad for a comeback album I guess but the playing is sort of "vanilla". Except for a couple of tunes it seems to lack real dynamics and cool jams (Pegasus excluded). The songs are all way too short.
The key thing is, I don't think the band is too fond of it since they have pretty much avoided playing the songs live for the past 16 years - with one or two exceptions of course. The current lineup could probably do wonders with a couple of them since everything they try seems to turn to gold...



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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 12:51 PM
Just Ain't Easy is one of Gregg's better lyrical songs. I love it. Just Ain't Easy is beautiful as well, though, Gregg should have sang it.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 01:05 PM
Uh.....Gregg did, and does, sing Just Ain't Easy....

 

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 01:17 PM
I started a thread a week or so ago when I found my copy for $5.88 at Walmart.

Here is my starting post and a follow up I posted...

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I was in Wally World tonight and flipped through the ABB bin just to see what might be there and and lo and behold...

The wonderful Tom Dowd produced Capricorn LP Enlightened Rogues is selling for 5 bucks and change. Cant beat that. I assume they are doing it nationwide.

Finally, I can quit listening to the old LP!

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Hope you can find it.

Its frustrating for me when this album so many times gets lumped in with "Reach for the Sky" and "Brothers of the Road". Its nothing like those 2.

Unlike the other 2, its the last Capricorn album for the Brothers, Tom Dowd produced it, Mike Lawler is not on it, it has no synthesiser, no group of 150 back up singers, and both Jaimoe and Butch play drums...no Frankie Toler.

It may not be Eat a Peach but its the Brothers when they were cooking on all cylinders.

The energy and fire is there, and Gregg sings his butt off.

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 01:46 PM
I Love it as well but I love every one of their ALBUMNS!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 03:57 PM
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I Love it as well but I love every one of their ALBUMNS!!!!!!!


Even "Brothers of the Road?????"

P.S. I have this cd by the way. It's good for some chuckles and I put it on when I'm feeling really cheezy and goofy.

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 04:11 PM
Love Bonnie Bramlett's vocals on Crazy Love

 

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 05:07 PM
The slide lick that starts off this album (on Crazy Love) -- I'll never forget it!! The Brothers were BACK!! With a great album.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 05:22 PM
The Brothers tip toed out of the seventies with this well recieved record and sebsequent reunion tour as Disco and Punk ruled. It's an Allman seventies album!!!! and one of the few rock albums that year that went gold. i Iwas disaapointed at the time that Chuck didn't rejoin and I felt the guitar playing was not as inspired as dickey by himself.Cool to have the twin lead soiund back though ,but it is hard to tell the difference between Dan and Dckey at times. also Some of the material doesn't hold up as well but, I love to this day "peagasus"

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 05:26 PM
Can't take It With You is an awesome tune

 

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 06:40 PM
some very good songs on that album...Just Aint Easy...Sail Away...Try It One More Time.
 

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 09:55 PM
I usually play ER on my drive down to the H&H, but always play "Jessica" as I roll into town on Riverside Drive!!!

ER is a great album!

 

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  posted on 12/28/2005 at 10:30 PM
Wally World has been coming up with some pretty good $5 cd's. I bought Gregg's "Playing up a Storm" and .38 Specials "Rockin' into the Night" there for the same price a couple of months back.
 

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  posted on 12/29/2005 at 06:45 AM
I was so starved for some Allman Brothers by the time this album came out. It sounded pretty good at the time, but obviously wasn't of the caliber of some of the earlier stuff. It was head and shoulders above anything else around at the time, IMHO.
 

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  posted on 12/29/2005 at 09:51 AM
"Enlightened Rogues" is a great album! "Just Ain't Easy,""Try One More Time," "Peagasus," "Sail Away"!!!! Great album great songs! The reason this album may have been left off the cover list by the current line up probably stems more from Dickey's total contribution to the record as opposed to the quality of the material. The song are probably more Dickey than say ....... "Blue Sky." ER in a sense was my introduction to the family. It was my first ABB show and hooked me although I had been listening to FE, B&S, Beginnings since I was eleven or twelve. Enlightened Rogues is one of my favorties and I believe one of the bands best as well. Best $5.99 anybody could spend.

 

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  posted on 12/29/2005 at 01:28 PM
i just bought ER at wally world today for 5.88 what a great find. I also got Gregg's "Playin Up A Storm" awhile back also. Now i have something to replace the old LP and 8-track i have. buy the way its a great album.
 

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  posted on 12/29/2005 at 04:25 PM
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The Brothers tip toed out of the seventies with this well recieved record and sebsequent reunion tour as Disco and Punk ruled. It's an Allman seventies album!!!! and one of the few rock albums that year that went gold. i Iwas disaapointed at the time that Chuck didn't rejoin and I felt the guitar playing was not as inspired as dickey by himself.Cool to have the twin lead soiund back though ,but it is hard to tell the difference between Dan and Dckey at times. also Some of the material doesn't hold up as well but, I love to this day "peagasus"

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The "tiptoed" description may not exaactly be accurate. I think "staggered out of the seventies" might be a better term for the Allman Brothers that I saw in action during this period.

 

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  posted on 12/29/2005 at 04:33 PM
I've heard that to be true on many occassion twiggs, but the ABB show I saw in Charlotte at Carowinds was awesome and still hold up to this day.

 

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  posted on 12/29/2005 at 05:27 PM
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I think "staggered out of the seventies" might be a better term for the Allman Brothers that I saw in action during this period.
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I've heard that to be true on many occassion twiggs, but the ABB show I saw in Charlotte at Carowinds was awesome and still holds up to this day.
The one I saw that summer in Edwardsville, IL, outside St. Louis, was too, Charlesinator! I haven't heard any tapes of it, but my feeling is that it would definitely hold up.

I had no impression that the band was wasted or goofing at all. Lowell George had just died earlier that day, and the Bros were really down to business. It was my first ABB show, and it was way greater than what I sorta expected from Wipe the Windows--of course, different band, no offense to Chuck and Lamar.

Enlightened Rogues was my favorite new album of the year, and I don't think there was any new music the next few years that I liked better, either. (This does not count my discovering older albums that were new to me.) For example, I listened to Stevie Ray from the first and saw him live early on, but I didn't think he was hitting the note right for a few years, by which time the Allman Brothers Band was history.

In terms of ABB history, ER set a nice opening standard for the re-formed band--better than Win, Lose or Draw, so there was definitely an upward trend. This made it generally disappointing to hear Reach for the Sky, ER's followup, and just sorta disgusting to hear Brothers of the Road.

Enlightened Rogues remains a worthy document of the Betts-Toler era. Like most ABB albums, it has its relatively low points, and its high points are very enjoyable but maybe not quite thrilling. Overall, though, it's a very interesting, even stimulating, listen.

 

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  posted on 12/29/2005 at 07:10 PM
Best Buy has some 9.99 deals. Picked up Lynyrd Skynyrd Second Helping!

 

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  posted on 12/29/2005 at 07:21 PM
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  posted on 12/30/2005 at 10:31 AM
Right on there Brofan,another Can't Take It With You fan.ER's been one of my favourite ABB albums since it came out.Couldn't wait to get to Daytona in 1979 to go to bike week and pick up a copy of the new ABB record.Even met Gregg twice while I was in Daytona riding around.

Pegasus,Just Ain't Easy, CTIWY could all use a revival IMHO.LOve to hear Marc workout on the percussion stuff on CTIWY.

 

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  posted on 12/30/2005 at 12:28 PM
I always thought ER was a pretty decent record, but there were a couple of major problems IMHO. First, it had a couple of songs that were just weak-Try One More Time and Sail Away. While neither was Louisiana Lou and Three Card Monte John (truly the nadir of the bands career) they were just too weak to be on an ABB album that had this much riding on it. Also as much as I liked Crazy Love and Can't Take It with You they seemed more like they fit on a Great Southern record.

Pegasus is one of their most overlooked songs (some of the versions from the 1980 german tour are amazing)and Just Ain't Easy is one of Gregg's best post EAP efforts. Blind Love is hot but seems a little formulaic for the Brothers.

The Arista CDs together make one pretty decent CD. On Brothers, Maybe We Can Go Back to Yesterday is one of Dickey's best non instrumentals and I've never understood why it was never in the rotation. Never Knew How Much I Needed You is another I wish Gregg would bring back and I Beg of You has some of Dickey's best slide work and Gregg is right there in your face with the vocal.

As for Reach for the Sky, Mystery Woman and So Long are excellent Gregg efforts and From the Madness of the West is valuable just for the reason it often gets slagged-the band was trying to grow and adapt to new technology. Where it sucked on OWO it actually works pretty well here.

Angeline and Straight From the Heart are OK singles to listen to if you forget this is the greatest band in history doing this stuff

 

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