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  posted on 1/17/2002 at 02:12 PM
Tina and I started our collection like many have with the generosity of a B&P transaction, I only wish I could remember who it was, so that I could thank him again.
A frequently asked question (FAQ in Netspeak) is: "What's a B&P?" Well, a B&P is a cool thing. B&P stands for Blanks & Postage. A person has offered a show up as a B&P.
What they want from you is the correct number of blank discs to record it on, an envelope to put the recorded discs into, and the proper postage to get that envelope
and it's precious contents back to you. There are some things beyond that to think about however. Tina found a good site with some great tips for B&P newbies and here's
the address: http://www.mcnichol.com/bnp/
You will find some numbered pictures if you scroll down a bit that, if followed, will ease the pain of the mailing process considerably. This is a well written site,
with many great tips, including how to keep mailing costs down, damage avoidance, insuring you're getting the show you want, and more.
If you'd like an example of what B&P collecting can do for a person, check this link, we get most of our shows this way: http://home.classicnet.net/cliffsongs/cdrlist.html

Happy hunting![Edited on 2/15/2002 by CliffnTina]

 

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  posted on 4/14/2002 at 07:58 AM
Just moving this up.

 

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I bump this post every once in a while because the link Tina found is an excellent resource for the newbie. It really helps out in the mailing department especially.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2002 at 11:29 AM
Might also be helpful for new burners to be aware that it is not commonly accepted to do 'on the fly' burns. That is, burning from one cd to the blank. First, extract to hard drive using EAC, and then burn DAO (disk at once).

Will offer 9.16.71 to anyone who needs it. B&P. PM or e me.

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  posted on 7/13/2002 at 09:20 AM
Just pushing this back up the list as we will soon be offering two shows and the initial post contains LOTS of good info if one follows the link included.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2002 at 02:18 PM
It is a very good idea to go to the link on the first post of this thread if you are a newbie.

http://www.mcnichol.com/bnp/

 

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  posted on 7/17/2002 at 05:12 PM
Goliath,
I've been trading and burning for a year or so now and this is the first time I've heard about the 'on the fly' deal not being good? I use Roxio EasyCDCreator and am able to burn 'on the fly' discs DOA, should I stop? Thanks for any input!
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On the fly greatly increases the occurance of errors, including diginoize. Diginoize= Bad!!! If you're not familiar with that it's the awful screech and scratch noizes that permeate many recordings, as well as other errors.
Most hardcore traders like to use Exact Audio Copy which is available free. It supposedly rips an exact audio copy of the show, and even fixes many errors that may be in the recording. It doesn't fix everything, but there is a lot of degraded recordings floating about, and every little bit helps. Unfortunately it doesn't fix diginoize... Perhaps remastering does, but it's generally easier to pitch the show in the trash and try to get it again from a different source.
Friends don't let friends burn on the fly!!!

 

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  posted on 8/1/2002 at 08:19 PM
Hey Jeremy (or others) - while I'm searching around the internet for EAC could anyone help by pointing us to a web location where this can be obtained (if that's how it can be gotten...)

thanks buddies,

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  posted on 8/1/2002 at 11:59 PM
You can find it here:

http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

It rips with almost all cd/dvd drives and if you're fortunate, your burner will be supported by it and you can use it to burn as well. Mine, unfortunately isn't supported, so I do it the hard way...

There are a couple of great links on the page to help you set it up properly.
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  posted on 8/5/2002 at 01:46 PM
finklewicz,

Right on bro! Josh, he speaks the truth. ALWAYS use EAC to extract. Always...

Most of the people I trade with insist on it.

EAPFP and use EAC

 

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I own a Panasonic Digital Audio burner and can only burn disks on the fly, one at a time, double speed. I guess that with no computer in the loop diginoise is not a factor ...

 

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Yeah, Hophead, only applies to computer burners...
 
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  posted on 8/5/2002 at 03:36 PM
Thanks to all you folks on the subject of EAC - went to the web site, downloaded their stuff, and it set up like a charm - extracted a few things with no problem at all. Thanks to all for the info...

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  posted on 8/6/2002 at 02:42 PM
Jim,

Be sure to extract in secure mode.

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I have found cdrWin to be a fine burning program.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2002 at 10:40 AM
My customary bump-up of this topic, just for those who've not read it as yet.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2002 at 07:56 AM
Time to move this up again, since I'm getting questions on how to do a bnp...

 

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Benjamin;Since those questions were from me,''Thanks''again for educating the uneducated.
 

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  posted on 9/10/2002 at 09:16 PM
Thanks Ben, I'm glad this post is still useful.

 

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  posted on 10/25/2002 at 11:15 AM
Just bumping this up.
 
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  posted on 11/4/2002 at 02:59 AM
thanks for the link..
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  posted on 11/4/2002 at 04:00 PM
Mostly just to keep this up near the top...plus I recently got a new computer, so went to the EAC site and downloaded the V0.9 beta4 version.
Probably due to the new computer, but I was finally able to use EAC to write to a CDR instead of only being able to extract to the HD...[Edited on 11/4/2002 by Benjamin]

 

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I have some newbie questions. I have a JVC audio CD recorder. I have burned discs of several shows with it, some from cassette and some from CDR. I can do regular speed or, double speed from CDR source. Everything I have burned sounds great to me... What is the majority opinion on using audio equipment for burning CDRs? Is recording quality as good as computer burners? What about single vs. double speed? I can't tell any difference in quality.... Is there a site somewhere with this kind of info? (I've read the Newbie B&P site as suggested by Cliff and Tina and others)
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Hey dbhelm - the quality of the copy process for an audio CD recorder is as good as that of a computer - in fact I think you have less of a chance of generating "diginoize" because the unit is "dedicated" to doing the copy process (unlike a computer, that could go off and do other processes, potentially resulting in audible problems with the disc you copied to...)
Also 2X speed is okay to use.

Only issue with an audio recorder is the requirement for AUDIO (not data) CDRs - they can cost a little bit more.

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