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  posted on 3/22/2008 at 11:29 PM
I'm looking for recommendations on Zappa. I've been wanting to get a feel for him, what album(s) should I start with? His catalogue is intimidating to say the least. I would like to hear the jazz/improv side of him (read he had some neo doo-wop albums?) Photoron?

 

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  posted on 3/22/2008 at 11:36 PM
There's so much out now, it's hard to keep up, but for the jazz side, the classics are Hot Rats, Waka Jawaka & Grand Wazoo. Doo Wop, go to his earliest stuff.
 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 12:07 AM
Shut Up and Play Your Guitar or Greatest Band u Have Never Heard

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 12:24 AM
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Shut Up and Play Your Guitar or Greatest Band u Have Never Heard


Those are good recommendations.

I have Shut up and Play Your Guitar as a three-CD set, I'd highly recommend that. The "Guitar" CD set is also very good. Later solos, and IMO opinion, more high-energy with a little harder edge to them.

For a one-disc with some good playing, I listen to "Frank Zappa plays the music of Frank Zappa" quite a bit.

I'm also a big fan of what people call the "most accessible" albums, e.g., Apostrophe, Joe's Garage, Tinseltown Rebellion, Sheik Yerbouti, etc. Those are a lot of fun.

I'm not a big fan of the very early stuff, but check it out, there's definitely a lot to choose from.

Make sure you check out the video for "Does Humor Belong in Music," too. Some of Frank's "Hits" along with a famous "Whipping Post," and a bit of the jazz/improv you're looking for with the Zoot Allures opener.

Get ready for quite an adventure . . .

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 07:17 AM
I'd add Over-Nite Sensation to the "accessible" list.

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 07:28 AM
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Agreed on "Over-Nite Sensation." I have Apostrophe and Over-Nite Sensation on a single disc - one of my earliest, and smartest, CD purchases.

I seem to remember you could also get "We're only in it for the Money" and "Lumpy Gravy" like that, too.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 07:37 AM
1.Shut Up and Play Your Guitar
2.Guitar
I prefer these instrumentals to
the albums with lyrics.
I'll have to give him credit
for the #1 title.... it's how I feel
about alot of his words.

 
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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 08:31 AM
Doo-wop?


Cruisin' With Ruben & the Jets



Apostrophe



Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life



The Grand Wazoo



One Size Fits All



The Shut Up and Play Your Guitar box



Also one simply called "Guitar"



Any of the six double disc releases "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore"



Overnite Sensation



Shiek Yerbouti



Joe's Garage



[Edited on 3/23/2008 by PhotoRon286]

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 10:16 AM
It depends on where you want to start . jpfudd 5 wants to start with the Jazz side then
I agree with sheep . Hots Rats , Waka/Jawaka Hot Rats , The Grand Wazoo are good places to start along with Make A Jazz Noise Here .
After that it depends on what direction you want to go . All the instrumental guitar cd's are incredible along with the latest release Trans-Fusion .
My favorite Zappa period is the early to mid-70's . Apostrophe/Over Nite Sensation , Roxy & Elsewhere , One Size Fits All , Zoot Allures & Live In New York are must haves in my mind .
Frank's whole catalog is very strong and I listen to at least a couple Zappa cd's a week !

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 10:53 AM
Inspired by this post I just bought Shut Up and Play Your Guitar.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 11:41 AM
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Inspired by this post I just bought Shut Up and Play Your Guitar.


I have that in three forms.

The original mail order three single LPs'

The Vinyl box set

Cd box set




Great stuff, love "The Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression"

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 12:28 PM
For me it's Hot Rats and Joe's Garage. Just don't make the mistake of buying the greatest hits CD. Many songs are remixed and I keep waiting for things to sound like they were originally intended to.
 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 12:47 PM
Saw Zappa in the early 70's. Great show. Totally different from what I expected but a pleasant surprise. Total professional

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 01:50 PM
My favorite is "We're Only In It For the Money." "Apostrophe" is another I love. The others mentioned here are great ones also.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 02:25 PM
A few things that also stand out for me is Chungas Revenge, if only for Sharleena and Just Another Band From LA, for Billy the Mt. I think everyone can go back in time and remember where they were the first time they heard Billy the Mountain.

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 02:52 PM
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Inspired by this post I just bought Shut Up and Play Your Guitar.


I have that in three forms.

The original mail order three single LPs'

The Vinyl box set

Cd box set




Great stuff, love "The Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression"

[Edited on 3/23/2008 by PhotoRon286]


I like Deathless Horsie . . . among many others.

I also aquired Trans-fusion recently . . . good, but I was expecting something a little stronger, I guess.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 10:22 PM
Bumping Frank back to page one.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2008 at 10:50 PM
I really like Hot Rats. My favorite song on there is Peaches En Regalia. That is such a great song!

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 07:04 AM
I'm with ya Jason.

Frank recorded three versions of it.


It's my choice for "what song do you want the ABB to play at the Beacon?"

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 07:10 AM
My personal Zappa favorite is "You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore. Vol 2"

Recorded Live in Helsinki 1974. APOSTROPHE-era band (George Duke on keyboards, Napoleon Murphy Brock on sax, Ruth Underwood on percussion/marimba, Tom Fowler on bass and Chester Thompson on drums)

Very cool ABB reference when a fan yells out "Whipping Post" and Frank asks the fan to sing a few bars.

Paul

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I also aquired Trans-fusion recently . . . good, but I was expecting something a little stronger, I guess.


Shortly after posting this, I listened to Trans-fusion through again (I had only given it about 3 listens so far). Forget my earlier comments, it's damned good. Excellent playing throughout, and it does focus on Frank's jazzier arrangements.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 07:11 AM
Oh, and btw. I've been thinking about starting a semi-permanent "Frank" thread for a few months now. Maybe this will be it and I'll have been spared the trouble.

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 07:43 AM
Semi-permanent is a term Frank would love........

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 07:47 AM
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I really like Hot Rats. My favorite song on there is Peaches En Regalia. That is such a great song!


I agree. Stef plays Peaches quite often on the Sirius Jam channel. Great tune....I really should make the effort to buy more Zappa.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 07:52 AM
How good is Zappa Plays Zappa

 

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