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  posted on 3/25/2008 at 05:57 AM
DETROIT (Billboard) - A previously unreleased song featuring Lynyrd Skynyrd's original lineup may surface on the Southern rock band's next studio album, which is expected out in early 2009.

Guitarist Gary Rossington tells Billboard.com that he recently unearthed the song, "Cottonmouth Country," from the archives. "It has Ronnie Van Zant singing and Leon (Wilkerson) on bass and Bob Burns is on drums," Rossington says.

"It's a cool track, pretty cool lyrics -- it's about the swamps. And we never put it out with (producer) Al Kooper on the first or second album. We just kind of let it sit there and never finished it. It's pretty well done, but the recording isn't as good as it could be. So we might put that out as a bonus track -- a whole new Skynyrd song nobody's heard."

As for the rest of the album -- Skynyrd's first of new material since 2003's "Vicious Cycle" -- Rossington says that he, frontman Johnny Van Zant and guitarist Rickey Medlocke have been spending time in Nashville working with songwriters.

"We're not doing a country album," Rossington says, "but Skynyrd's always had a little bit of country blood in us. That's where we come from."

He says the group has at least 20 songs ready for consideration and hopes to hit the studio in April or May. The group hasn't yet determined who will be producing, though Rossington says the band members will likely co-produce with whomever they choose.

Skynyrd has plenty else going on at the moment. It recently released a deluxe edition of "Street Survivors," the 1977 best-seller released shortly before the plane crash that killed Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist Steve Gaines and his sister, backup singer Cassie Gaines.

Skynyrd is also gearing up for another leg of the Rowdy Frynds Tour with Hank Williams, Jr., and .38 Special, which begins April 4 in Hershey, Pa., and to be part of Kid Rock's Rock N Roll Revival show on May 15 at New York's Madison Square Garden and subsequent dates later this summer.

"He's a great guy, man. We love him, and he's done a lot for us," Rossington says of Rock. "We've calmed down now, so we listen to all the stories about the Kid Rock party bus."

 
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Thanks Dude,

I'll be looking forward to it..........always ready for a new Skynyrd release.


Now it should be time for the pissers and moaners about Johnny VanZant to add there negative remarks about the current Skynyrd..and of course Kid Rock. Like we have not heard it a dozen effin' times before. Ho hum.................

 

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Now it should be time for the pissers and moaners about Johnny VanZant to add there negative remarks about the current Skynyrd..and of course Kid Rock. Like we have not heard it a dozen effin' times before. Ho hum.................


I was thinking the same thing ...

 

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As for the rest of the album -- Skynyrd's first of new material since 2003's "Vicious Cycle" -- Rossington says that he, frontman Johnny Van Zant and guitarist Rickey Medlocke have been spending time in Nashville working with songwriters.

"We're not doing a country album," Rossington says, "but Skynyrd's always had a little bit of country blood in us. That's where we come from."



Not a bad idea for Skynyrd to do. Certainly it's the direction that both Johnny and Donnie went for when doing the last two Van Zant CDs. And those CDs were good ones. Maybe what Johnny learned doing the Van Zant CDs he's going to apply to the Skynyrd sound. If so, might be worth listening to, as Skynyrd biggest weakness is the lack of good "new" songs.

Of course, I still wondering why Johnny and Donnie never did a "Van Zant" tour.

 
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Of course, I still wondering why Johnny and Donnie never did a "Van Zant" tour.


That would be a good move, maybe smaller venues.

I used to go see Johnny at the Agora, long before the plane crash. I liked him then also.

It could be a Van Zant and Friends tour. I'd be there.

 

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The Van Zant Brothers have toured together to promote their album. I just saw them in Aiken, SC 2 months ago at the annual guitar pull. Donnie and Johnny performed an acoustic set along with several other top country acts. They played several songs of their cd in addition to some LS tunes. Good guys, met them backstage at the buffet table.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2008 at 10:15 AM
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a whole new Skynyrd song nobody's heard


Well, I did. I have that recording... They never finished it, Ronnie says "cut, cut, cut" at the end of the song.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2008 at 10:19 AM
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The Van Zant Brothers have toured together to promote their album. I just saw them in Aiken, SC 2 months ago at the annual guitar pull. Donnie and Johnny performed an acoustic set along with several other top country acts. They played several songs of their cd in addition to some LS tunes. Good guys, met them backstage at the buffet table.
Yeah, and I met you at that show Wayne!

 

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  posted on 3/25/2008 at 10:44 AM
Actually LS having some "Nashville" country artists write songs is nothing new. The last few releases have been the same. I know Travis Tritt sent some songs their way in the past.

As far as an old track, sounds good to me although it does seem a bit like an effort to use the past to sell discs. Which also works for me. Too bad there wasn't an album's worth of stuff.

 

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As far as an old track, sounds good to me although it does seem a bit like an effort to use the past to sell discs. Which also works for me. Too bad there wasn't an album's worth of stuff.



Would folks say that if it was The ABB that found an old Duane era song and released it on a CD.

Not here for sure, everyone would be all over it.

But if it's Skynyrd then it's EVIL..LOL !

 

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Great meeting you and your wife there Dave, that was a good show, at least what I heard from the beer stand.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2008 at 12:25 PM
I had good seats. I got a kick out of that young blond kid, Bucky Covington. He was having a big time, getting out his cell phone and calling his dad, excitedly exclaiming, "I'm on stage with Johnny VanZant of Lynyrd Skynyrd!!!" They were all drinking beer and cutting up with each other. It was definitely a good time!!

 

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  posted on 3/25/2008 at 12:30 PM
cool...interested in hearing this.

 

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As far as an old track, sounds good to me although it does seem a bit like an effort to use the past to sell discs. Which also works for me. Too bad there wasn't an album's worth of stuff.



Would folks say that if it was The ABB that found an old Duane era song and released it on a CD.

Not here for sure, everyone would be all over it.

But if it's Skynyrd then it's EVIL..LOL !


Not for me. I love LS and I always have. There are far too many bands for me to pick on a band with such a history and so much classic stuff. Learned many guitar parts from those boys and I think Steve Gaines would have tore up the music industry. He is one of the saddest cases in music history to me because we barely got a peek at what he was capable of. His influence was massive on just one studio album. Imagine the others that would have followed? They would have ended up front runners in "New" country because of the direction Ronnie wanted and Gaines ability to play those styles. it meant that Ronniw would not have needed a solo album to accomplish his goals.

Gary and Allen with riff masters who had the knack of coming up with catchy riffs that worked well with Ronnie's lyrics.

The reason I mention cashing in on the past is because they have had some releases with stuff like that before and it didn't make the grade then. Perhaps it was found after but the fact that Gaston has it means that it wasn't. But I have no problem with them cashing in on the original lineup. They are the survivors and deserve it in my opinion. I look forward to hearing any old tune with Ronnie singing.

I would say the same with the ABB and in fact I do. The Archieve releases are cashing in on Duane and Berry's era without a doubt and I love them. Would enjoy more actually.

So many bands are sitting on so much audio/visual material for various reasons. Too bad because I won't buy it when I am senile and in a rocker. The time is now.

I like LS and have never understood the bashing they take at times here. They wrote great classic rock songs and tore up guitars. What could be so bad about that? Was the original lineup better? Yes but so was the original ABB.

 

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As far as an old track, sounds good to me although it does seem a bit like an effort to use the past to sell discs. Which also works for me. Too bad there wasn't an album's worth of stuff.



Would folks say that if it was The ABB that found an old Duane era song and released it on a CD.

Not here for sure, everyone would be all over it.

But if it's Skynyrd then it's EVIL..LOL !
I agree...

 

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Well, I did. I have that recording... They never finished it, Ronnie says "cut, cut, cut" at the end of the song.

where you got it from & is i told you how much i love you today gaston my peach???

 

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As far as an old track, sounds good to me although it does seem a bit like an effort to use the past to sell discs. Which also works for me. Too bad there wasn't an album's worth of stuff.



Would folks say that if it was The ABB that found an old Duane era song and released it on a CD.

Not here for sure, everyone would be all over it.

But if it's Skynyrd then it's EVIL..LOL !


Not for me. I love LS and I always have. There are far too many bands for me to pick on a band with such a history and so much classic stuff. Learned many guitar parts from those boys and I think Steve Gaines would have tore up the music industry. He is one of the saddest cases in music history to me because we barely got a peek at what he was capable of. His influence was massive on just one studio album. Imagine the others that would have followed? They would have ended up front runners in "New" country because of the direction Ronnie wanted and Gaines ability to play those styles. it meant that Ronniw would not have needed a solo album to accomplish his goals.

Gary and Allen with riff masters who had the knack of coming up with catchy riffs that worked well with Ronnie's lyrics.

The reason I mention cashing in on the past is because they have had some releases with stuff like that before and it didn't make the grade then. Perhaps it was found after but the fact that Gaston has it means that it wasn't. But I have no problem with them cashing in on the original lineup. They are the survivors and deserve it in my opinion. I look forward to hearing any old tune with Ronnie singing.

I would say the same with the ABB and in fact I do. The Archieve releases are cashing in on Duane and Berry's era without a doubt and I love them. Would enjoy more actually.

So many bands are sitting on so much audio/visual material for various reasons. Too bad because I won't buy it when I am senile and in a rocker. The time is now.

I like LS and have never understood the bashing they take at times here. They wrote great classic rock songs and tore up guitars. What could be so bad about that? Was the original lineup better? Yes but so was the original ABB.
Well said!
But don't forget that the current lineup is often attacked by Skynyrd fans too. There is an idea that they're "destroyin'" the legacy or somethin'... when, in my opinion, the original band has more recognition now than in 1977... Not to mention the great rare stuff they're releasin' of the Ronnie Van Zant era... Everything's fine to me...

 

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Well, I did. I have that recording... They never finished it, Ronnie says "cut, cut, cut" at the end of the song.

where you got it from & is i told you how much i love you today gaston my peach???
No, you didn't tell me, but I have an idea...

And I have that song with the Steve Gaines rehearsals. Steve practicing the songs before the Fox run, at Leon's living room! You want it? Your next package is almost ready...

 

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a whole new Skynyrd song nobody's heard


Well, I did. I have that recording... They never finished it, Ronnie says "cut, cut, cut" at the end of the song.

where you got it from & is i told you how much i love you today gaston my peach???
No, you didn't tell me, but I have an idea...

And I have that song with the Steve Gaines rehearsals. Steve practicing the songs before the Fox run, at Leon's living room! You want it? Your next package is almost ready...


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Well, I did. I have that recording... They never finished it, Ronnie says "cut, cut, cut" at the end of the song.

where you got it from & is i told you how much i love you today gaston my peach???
No, you didn't tell me, but I have an idea...

And I have that song with the Steve Gaines rehearsals. Steve practicing the songs before the Fox run, at Leon's living room! You want it? Your next package is almost ready...


Will you be sharing with everyone or just the pretty women?
Just the pretty women...

 

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But don't forget that the current lineup is often attacked by Skynyrd fans too. There is an idea that they're "destroyin'" the legacy or somethin'... when, in my opinion, the original band has more recognition now than in 1977... Not to mention the great rare stuff they're releasin' of the Ronnie Van Zant era... Everything's fine to me...


I think that even if you are a fan and don't like the current lineup, you can't fault the guys from playing as LS. It is easy math. The Gary Rossington Band would make a few dollars but not near the payday for LS. If you had the option to change the name of the company that you work for and make 10% of what you currently do, would you want to? Well either do they. It isn't like they kicked Allen, Ronnie and Steve out of the band.

If you don't like it then don't go or buy their discs. Some don't which I respect. Some don't go to the ABB without Dickey and I respect that also. Others pass on Dickey shows because there is no ABB there. But they all play good tunes and some will love it and others won't. I enjoy them all and accept it for what it is.

 

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As far as an old track, sounds good to me although it does seem a bit like an effort to use the past to sell discs. Which also works for me. Too bad there wasn't an album's worth of stuff.



Would folks say that if it was The ABB that found an old Duane era song and released it on a CD.

Not here for sure, everyone would be all over it.

But if it's Skynyrd then it's EVIL..LOL !


Not for me. I love LS and I always have. There are far too many bands for me to pick on a band with such a history and so much classic stuff. Learned many guitar parts from those boys and I think Steve Gaines would have tore up the music industry. He is one of the saddest cases in music history to me because we barely got a peek at what he was capable of. His influence was massive on just one studio album. Imagine the others that would have followed? They would have ended up front runners in "New" country because of the direction Ronnie wanted and Gaines ability to play those styles. it meant that Ronniw would not have needed a solo album to accomplish his goals.

Gary and Allen with riff masters who had the knack of coming up with catchy riffs that worked well with Ronnie's lyrics.

The reason I mention cashing in on the past is because they have had some releases with stuff like that before and it didn't make the grade then. Perhaps it was found after but the fact that Gaston has it means that it wasn't. But I have no problem with them cashing in on the original lineup. They are the survivors and deserve it in my opinion. I look forward to hearing any old tune with Ronnie singing.

I would say the same with the ABB and in fact I do. The Archieve releases are cashing in on Duane and Berry's era without a doubt and I love them. Would enjoy more actually.

So many bands are sitting on so much audio/visual material for various reasons. Too bad because I won't buy it when I am senile and in a rocker. The time is now.

I like LS and have never understood the bashing they take at times here. They wrote great classic rock songs and tore up guitars. What could be so bad about that? Was the original lineup better? Yes but so was the original ABB.


Dude,

You know your always cool with me, ALWAYS...

I know you like Skynyrd, what I meant is there are folks that would okay it for the ABB, but they would damn the Johnny era of Skynyrd for it. Your not a Johnny damner..LOL !

 

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I don't damn the Johnny Van Zant era of the Skynyrd band. Much of it was quite good, especially the tribute tour. The JVZ lps have never been very good, and some have been quite bad. Johnny used to be able to sing and now he sounds like crap. Hey, he had some voice problems and these days I can't stand to hear him sing many of the Skynyrd songs. As for CottonMouth Country, I have the song and I reset the tape speed from too slow to about normal and I included the song on my compilation that I called Skynyrd Rarities. I vined that disc and the disc was warmly received. As for JVZ Skynyrd, I vined a show from 1988.


As for OldDirtRoad/Kenny being some sort of super fan of Skynyrd, I doubt it. It seems that a week doesn't go buy without Kenny making many compulsive posts where he claims to be a super fan of Dickey or the ABB or Rory Gallagher, etc. I used to seek some acceptance here but soon realized the folly of such behavior. Folks either accept me here or they don't. I've shown my admiration and love of old Skynyrd to the best of my ability. I will be the first to REMIND folks that modern day Skynyrd is CRAPOLA compared to what the band used to be. Modern day Skynyrd sounds as mediocre as Molly Hatchet did live. I think MH had always been one of the more disappointing live bands. MH had two good lps and after DJB left and came back the band never captured that "magic" again. And even in their prime the audios from the BEST MH years showcase the band often sounding pretty LAZY, with DJB and the band being on drugs and Rock Star Trips.




Ronnie was a genius and the original Skynyrd was frequently brilliant. You simply can't describe Johnny and company in the same breath.



Johnny is to Skynyrd what Hank William Jr was to Hank Williams' song cover versions, and that ain't much.





Do I hate Johnny, NO, but I think the guy is rather DUMB. Is he a NICE guy, folks say he is. Do I think JVZ is a genius or a brilliant performer, song writer or singer, ODR, don't make he laugh or damn the band for carrying on. Yeah, this crapola that passes for Skynyrd embarrasses me. But then I am not looking to cow tow to people who tell me that I simply am some sort of an ahole. I have my opinions and feelings about Skynyrd and they don't change a whole lot. Geez, everybody from Skynyrd is either DEAD or out of the band. You think the current lineup sounds even remotely like the old band? Geez, and some of ya'll are flag waving Skynyrd fans?

 

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  posted on 3/26/2008 at 06:51 PM
Maybe Kid Rock can take over on vocals..

 

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  posted on 3/26/2008 at 06:55 PM
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You know your always cool with me, ALWAYS...

I know you like Skynyrd, what I meant is there are folks that would okay it for the ABB, but they would damn the Johnny era of Skynyrd for it. Your not a Johnny damner..LOL !




I knew what you meant and agree. I was trying to get across that I call it the same both ways. Musically they are very different but historically they are similar in certain circumstances.

I think that the ABB rides on their past (Duane & Berry era) during every show that they have played. One look at any setlist will prove that.

 

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