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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 02:46 PM
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First, state golf courses at risk. Now, halls of fame could be on the block. When will the pain end?

Political Insider
Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 08:26 AM
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution


At the state Capitol, recent budget hearings on the Senate side suggest that a few of the General Assembly’s most cherished slices of pork may be in trouble because of the fiscal crisis.

Two weeks ago, at a budget hearing, senators questioned whether the state could continue to pay for the money-losing golf courses it runs. Most of the courses are in rural parts of the state and are near and dear to small-town lawmakers.

The Department of Natural Resources is talking about closing a seldom-used course in the far southeast Georgia town of Fargo, and letting private companies bid to run most or all of the rest of the state-owned courses.

“We would be severely criticized, when we’re cutting Medicaid and education, if we keep these golf courses afloat when they are losing money,” said Sen. George Hooks (D-Americus), former long-time chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee.

On Monday it was state-subsidized halls of fame (Music, Sports and Golf) that got the treatment from senators, according to my AJC colleague James Salzer, who was there.

“I don’t know why we continue to give taxpayer dollars to these halls of fame,” said Senate Majority Whip Mitch Seabaugh (R-Sharpsburg), during a budget hearing. “We ought to put them on notice that on Jan. 1, we aren’t going to have the money to given them operating funds.”

The halls for music and sports, located in Macon, have long been the pride of middle Georgia lawmakers, while the Golf Hall of Fame was brought to life by Augusta’s legislative delegation. For years, the legislators from those two areas were among the most powerful in the state, and the halls have always been heavily subsidized by taxpayers.

Despite valiant efforts, the Macon facilities have little hope of ever becoming self-sustaining from the revenue they take in from visitors.
And taxpayers are still paying off the bonds to build the Golf Hall of Fame — which was never actually built.

The money went instead to buy land along the Savannah River and develop gardens, which closed when the state pulled out its operating funding last year. During this past session, the state got back into the Golf Hall of Fame business, putting money in for planning a new hall.

But Seabaugh, like Hooks, said he has a hard time justifying money for halls of fame at a time when services most Georgians consider essential, such as education, face spending cuts of up to 10 percent.

“To me, we ought to start from the standpoint of what is fundamental to state government,” Seabaugh said. “There are a whole bunch of things that are in gray areas. We have to stand up and call things non-essential.”


 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 02:53 PM
As an Augusta area resident, I am familiar with the situation with the Golf Hall of Fame, which is now defunct. They acquired the property, which is on the riverfront downtown. All it ever really got was the big brick wall and lush landscaping. They built the wall all curvy to go around planted trees. They could have saved thousands of dollars building the wall straight. The city ended up taking it over and now it's just....there.

The Georgia Music Hall of Fame, on the other hand, is up and running. I think it would be a travesty to close it down. Find other revenue sources, but don't close it down, for cryin' out loud!

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 03:05 PM
Yeah, I look out over the closed Golf Hall Of Fame everyday as my office is on the third floor in the building next to it. I take my lunch walk through the gardens listening to the ipod, it is nice as no one is ever there! So i am getting my tax money's worth.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 04:38 PM
Where ever will I do all of my last minute Christmas shopping if they were to close the GA music hall of fame and its gift shop?

two years back it was the otis redding bbq apron and hot pads...

Last year everyone got the guitar shaped flyswatter in various colors along with the abb fam cookbook....

...this year is gonna' be the soakstone peachnote coasters and a shot glass!!!

I was hope'n to pick out some WSP'phenalia for myself this Christmas to me.

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 04:51 PM
Hey Big Dave, Henry and I went there last April right before we went to Chevy's cafe.
 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 05:32 PM
Can't believe anyone would be that stupid to close down the GMHOF....sounds like politics at it's best to me. Now I understand and APPRECIATE why the Big House Foundation has worked so hard to become self-sufficient and perpetuate. At one time, there was talk about linking to the GMHOF somehow for co-operation, 'management' etc., where does that stand these days I wonder?

 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 05:37 PM
Shame about the GA Music Hall Of Fame....

It can be argued that Macon help invent a lot of music that the whole world enjoys....

 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 05:47 PM
Don't panic. I'd be shocked if the Hall closes. Our Gov is from neighboring Houston County and will serve until '10. He will not let this happen and has plenty of political capital to keep it open. Just some talk.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 07:56 PM
Part of me asks, why should my State government have anything to do with a music museum? If it closes, it won't be because of lack of government funding (even if that is the immediate cause), it will be from lack of funding from visitors, residents, and donors. Why go through the government middle man anyhow? Just posing the questions...

 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 09:22 PM
One of the draws for the Halls of fame is to generate tourism for the area. My question is, why do they hold the Georgia Music Hall of Fame induction in Atlanta? Atlanta doesn't need the tourism dollars as much as Macon and the facility does. I may be talking out of my hat here but I think more people could afford to go to the ceremony in Macon than to have to navigate Atlanta traffic and pay Atlanta hotel prices.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 09:30 PM
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One of the draws for the Halls of fame is to generate tourism for the area. My question is, why do they hold the Georgia Music Hall of Fame induction in Atlanta? Atlanta doesn't need the tourism dollars as much as Macon and the facility does. I may be talking out of my hat here but I think more people could afford to go to the ceremony in Macon than to have to navigate Atlanta traffic and pay Atlanta hotel prices.


I've wondered the same thing myself...

 

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  posted on 10/7/2008 at 10:04 PM
Good observations! As a Yankee with an old friend who was employed there once....good questions. Also....why aren't there more fund-raising efforts ..."Macon Festivals''...."GMHOF Concerts" to raise money for the effort.??? Hell....Brother Gregg is a Georgia resident.....seems like someone might give him a tax break if he were to do a benefit or two for the establishment. It ain't 'rocket science'. !!! Hell...I'd come down to see Brenda Lee and/or Travis Tritt if it was a weekend of fun and 'frivolity'! Have 'em do the flute player trilogy....The Ocmulgee Indian, Sidney Lanier and Jerry Eubanks....!!! We'll show up!!

 

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  posted on 10/8/2008 at 01:01 PM
Macon has a stigma about it. I cant explain it but folks from Atlanta look down on Macon like its soooo podunk backwoods behind the times loserville its not even funny. I kid you not, I told folks last New Years in several area (fivepoints) establishments that I had spent the day down in Macon and they were laughing in my face. They talked down to me like I was Opie from Andy Griffith only this wont Mayberry and i aint no lightweight. For someone to have made my bail....

Atlantonians -at least the bunch inundating the lil five points area suck - they are too f'n cool for school. They are Sans Soul.

For the record, it is exactly (to the tenth of a mile) 400 miles from GMHOF to my front door here in the Capitol City. Sure, WallMark is much closer than the gift shop at the GA music hall of fame, but i'll still be stopping through Macon there to do my (belated)Christmas Shopping on my way outta 'Florida into Atlanta for New Years...and to visit the other notables about Town. Macontown that is.




 

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  posted on 10/8/2008 at 01:24 PM
No need to get into an Atlanta-Macon war here. Let's face it, the people you talked to at L5P probably value nightlife more than average, and Macon can't compete there. I lived in Macon for 3 years, and if you remove the ABB mystique, it's a fairly typical mid-sized southern city, no more no less, probably a great place to raise a family. I enjoyed the slower pace, but was ready to return home to Atlanta after finishing school there.

Now that I'm older, and nightlife is less important, Macon again looks good, because our traffic sucks. Just because the ABB's roots are in Macon does not make it a shang-ri-la to most people you'll meet.

 

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No need to get into an Atlanta-Macon war here. Let's face it, the people you talked to at L5P probably value nightlife more than average, and Macon can't compete there. I lived in Macon for 3 years, and if you remove the ABB mystique, it's a fairly typical mid-sized southern city, no more no less, probably a great place to raise a family. I enjoyed the slower pace, but was ready to return home to Atlanta after finishing school there.

Now that I'm older, and nightlife is less important, Macon again looks good, because our traffic sucks. Just because the ABB's roots are in Macon does not make it a shang-ri-la to most people you'll meet.


I had merely communicated having spent the day there. No nightlife. no shang-ri-la. I'm just offering up a reason why no fundraisers are held in Macon. The impression I received as an outsider was that L5P'ers in particular wished the Bluecoats had razed Macon along with the rest of the Southeasts's cities.

JMHO! I spent every other weekend in Atlanta last year dating an accountant down there - i LIKE Atlanta, and yes, your traffic does suck.

However, there is a reason it is known as "Black Hollywood".

bling bling bling and along with that is the whole "I'm better than you thing".

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One of the draws for the Halls of fame is to generate tourism for the area. My question is, why do they hold the Georgia Music Hall of Fame induction in Atlanta? Atlanta doesn't need the tourism dollars as much as Macon and the facility does. I may be talking out of my hat here but I think more people could afford to go to the ceremony in Macon than to have to navigate Atlanta traffic and pay Atlanta hotel prices.


I always figured it was a big fund raiser for the museum (one of those $$$ for a table kind of deals) and they are more likely to get more people to go to it by having it at the GWCC in Atlanta.

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Part of me asks, why should my State government have anything to do with a music museum? If it closes, it won't be because of lack of government funding (even if that is the immediate cause), it will be from lack of funding from visitors, residents, and donors. Why go through the government middle man anyhow? Just posing the questions...


Pre bail-out, I agreed with this 100%. If the museums can't make it on foot traffic and fund-raisers, they shouldn't exist.

Now, I'm not so sure.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2008 at 03:05 PM
If the Georgia Music Hall of Fame closes ... they could have a helluva yard sale!

 

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  posted on 10/8/2008 at 03:14 PM
L5P is not exactly a cross-section of Atlanta by any means.

 

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