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  posted on 1/26/2009 at 06:46 PM
Good, but nothing special on first listen. Hope it's a grower.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2009 at 08:32 PM
I have been a huge Springsteen fan in the past (still am) but have been underwhelmed by his last few studio releases. Ever since he has hooked with Brendan O' Brien his tunes have sounded overly slick to me....and I heard he has gone towards an even more pop direction on this one. Hope not....he needs more edge in his music, IMHO.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2009 at 08:48 PM
I listened to this for free on Friday via the NPR website. Granted, I was listening at work where I couldn't really crank it up, but I have to say I was underwhelmed and frankly a bit disappointed. Like my man brofan, I'm a Bruce fan as well. I liked Magic, but this one leaves me shaking my head. The title track is good (Working on a Dream) and the soundtrack song to The Wrestler is ok, but the opening song (I think) on the CD is called Outlaw Pete and I absolutely HATED it. It seems like this is more like a Bruce solo CD because the E-Street band ain't rockin' it on this one. I reserve the right to change my mind if I listen to this again when I can hear it without being at work, but I don't think I'll be forking out the cash to buy it.

I'll be interested in what others think of it, so post here, but only if you agree with me (lol!)

 

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  posted on 1/26/2009 at 08:54 PM
ZZZZZZZ

I CHECKED OUT ON BRUCE A DECADE OR SO AGO.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2009 at 09:04 PM
I think maybe Jon Landau (his manager who ousted Mike Appel in a power struggle in order to produce Born To Run) has too much input....I mean, Nils Lofgren has been in the band since 1984 and has had exactly ONE solo on a Bruce CD (great guitar solo on Tunnel of Love, which came out 20 years ago!). Landau also was responsible for Little Steven leaving the E Street Band right when BITUSA was released, and Landau erased LS off the album tracks. The E Street Band lost a lot of its heart and soul when Steven left. Glad he's back-they still kick major ass live. Just wish they could capture some of that thunder and lightning in the studio-ilke they did on Darkness On The Edge Of Town, still my favorite Springsteen record.

At least Bruce has dropped that horrible redneck twang he picked up in the late '80s..used to sound like nails on blackboard to me, especially when he sang The Promise on the Greatest Hits CD.....we'd been waiting for him to release that tune for almost 25 years and then he re-records it and just ruins it with that "aw shucks" voice....oh, well still got the original version in my boot collection.

 

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  posted on 1/26/2009 at 09:05 PM
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I CHECKED OUT ON BRUCE A DECADE OR SO AGO.


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  posted on 1/26/2009 at 10:55 PM
I checked out on Bruce after 1984. He was never the same after Born in the USA.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 12:01 AM
i can't wait. album comes out today
 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 04:12 AM
Rolling Stone review gave it 5 stars and called it his best since Born To Run. Still think I'll pass.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 05:22 AM
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Good, but nothing special on first listen. Hope it's a grower.


I know what you mean and I thought it was a bit pop, over produced Jeff Lynne style, and it some parts a lightweight Bon Jovi. Does have it's moments though. I can't wait to hear what the band does with these live as i think that this one might have been rushed out when the songs could had more work on them.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 06:37 AM
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Rolling Stone review gave it 5 stars and called it his best since Born To Run. Still think I'll pass.


Whoever wrote that review has never listened to Darkness, The River or even The Rising. On 3rd listen now and not really improving with a bit more familiarity, but IMHO, the guy's not capable of making a bad album. Some duff tracks occasionally, but overall never less than 3 stars. Disappointing for a Bruce album, but still head and shoulders above most of the samey crap that's churned out by young bands these days. At least you know it's Bruce.

(Having said that, I was blown away by Babyshambles when they played a charity gig with Roger Daltrey a couple of weeks ago - cracking gig with a sober/clean(?) Pete Doherty)

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 09:29 AM
"Rolling Stone review gave it 5 stars and called it his best since Born To Run."

come on...for real?????

i am a Bruce fan...the DVD with the Born to Run set that came out a few year ago is great...1975 i think is the date of the concert....Born to Run is played in the middle of the set just like its another song...ha..ha...

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 09:40 AM
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Rolling Stone review gave it 5 stars and called it his best since Born To Run. Still think I'll pass.


Rolling Stone always gives him good reviews. They also gave the last Who CD a 4 or 5 star rating and that CD had 1 good song on it. I lost respect of there reviews after that. I think MAgic was ok so this one will probably be ok. I really like Devils&Dust, The Seeger Sessions, Live in Dublin from the Seeger Sessions Tour plus all the stuff from the 70s and 80s except Born in the USA is just ok. I also really like Ghost of Tom Joad

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 09:53 AM
My wife is a huge Bruce fan. Personally I think The Rising is his best since the 70's. I love that cd.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 09:57 AM
The single, Working On A Dream, was a free download from itunes last month. I really like it. Will not buy the album though, haven't bought one since Tunnel of Love, love that song. I still like the Bruce of my teenage years, Greetings, Born To Run and Darkness.

Bruce is on the cover of Rolling Stone this month, nice article, read it last night.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 11:35 AM
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Rolling Stone review gave it 5 stars and called it his best since Born To Run.


Maybe it is worthy of the rating (I don't know - have not heard the album). Today it is about the access to Bruce for RS. You know they got a full length interview that they will run right before his Spring/Summer tour is announced. It's about the perks - not about being honest. If they would have called it a "road apple" and give it 0.5/5 do you think that they would have got the interview?

Have to stop drinking the "cool-aid" and be honest. This just discredits the media and everyone involved in the project.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 11:40 AM
I pre-ordered the CD, but haven't gotten it yet. Sounds familiar.

I will also be seeing him again in Atlanta on April 26th.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 02:53 PM
broRich -
i love your posts.....i like of lot of songs, but i think nebraska, tunnel of love, seeger sessions (and dublin) are my favorite bruce albums (CD's). my wife has seen him two or three times recently here (once at nassau coliseum) and loves him. I think the last time I saw him was no-nukes or a bill bradley fund raiser in new jersey (20 some years ago?)... I heard a few cuts on the radio.....sounds like he's into a choir/gospel type of backround - as pointed out, lots of production.......

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 04:32 PM
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Rolling Stone review gave it 5 stars and called it his best since Born To Run. Still think I'll pass.


seriuosly? his best since "born to run"? since i thought darkness on the edge of town, the river and born in th usa are better than born to run and the rising and magic are on par with born to run i highly doubt this new album is better than all of those albums

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 06:32 PM
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Good, but nothing special on first listen. Hope it's a grower.


Bruce's albums are those that tend to grow. Although, I could never really get into Magic. However, from what I have heard from this one, it fits my tastes much better. Time will only tell my friend.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 11:12 PM
This album has really grown on me a lot. It would be unfair to compare to his masterpiece work of the seventies and early eighties. However, this album, as well as Magic, and The Rising, all stand on their own as solid pieces of work. The one thing I realized while listening to his recent albums is that I prefer the studio versions better than the live versions. Again, this is just my opinion, but I feel the tracks on this album as well as Magic and Rising sound fresher and more energetic on record than live. His earlier albums were MEANT to be played live and those incredible tracks were begging for an audience. Regardless, I'm enjoying this new album tremendously and feel once again, that Bruce has given us another gem! Enjoy!
 

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  posted on 1/27/2009 at 11:35 PM
I got an advance copy of the disc over the weekend, and was asked to review it for a local webzine. However, I missed my deadline, so I can publish it anywhere I want.

I think dougrhon is dead on, as you will see below :-)

As for Rolling Stone and the other media hacks, they are all big suckups. Everyone is afraid to write anything bad about any major artist, because then they lose their access and those nice perks (free tix, parties, etc. etc.) go bye-bye. My publisher probably put it best...his thoughts are in italics below, followed by my review. And I was KIND. See what ya think!

I wholeheartedly agree that since 1984 he's been the ayatollah of crapola, and if I had to be pressed on the matter I'd either go with NEBRASKA or the earlier albums, as they represent the long-lost essence of the guy and show a passion that can't be denied.

It also helps that they pre-date the E Street Band; gawd I hate the sound of the f*cking E Street Band… Max Weinberg is the single most banal element in the whole Springsteen mix; the least competent famous drummer since Ringo and, by all consensus, not a nice person. I’m a strong believer in good and/or wild drummers making a big difference in a band (Keith Moon! Mitch Mitchell! Clem Burke! Topper Headon!), and his continued participation is one of the top reasons why I keep my distance from that whole vile Bruce thing.

I think my favorite thing he ever did was when he broke up the band and took up "permanent" residency in LA...of course he came hightailing it back when he discovered he was just a B-list celeb out there instead of Buddy Christ...

Oy, don't get me started; I could go on long and far into the night...


Bruce Springsteen review: Working On a Dream

Having gotten my hands on an advance copy of Working On a Dream, the latest studio release from Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band, I was determined to give it at least two listens before reviewing the disc, maybe even three or four. And I wanted to like this disc. I really did. But sadly, I really don’t.

Generally, I find there are two camps of Springsteen fans. Camp A seems to consist of those to whom Springsteen can do no wrong. Camp A salivates over anything he does, big or small, whether it’s presidential inaugurations, Super Bowl halftimes, or solo acoustic arena shows; lavish productions or stripped-down Nebraskas.

Conversely, Camp B, the fan segment to which I belong, contains those who feel Springsteen released his best records prior to 1984. When recently discussing this with a Camp A fan, upon hearing I didn’t buy The Rising, he went so far as to instruct me that I should just leave New Jersey right now and never return.

But Magic was a different story. This was the CD that almost returned me to Camp A. From start to finish, it contained hooky tunes with catchy lyrics and a big rock and roll sound with all the E Street Band hallmarks fully intact: organ and sax solos everywhere and songs to which I couldn’t sit still or banish from my head. Magic was exactly that, the recorded E Street Band I had been missing for the past 20-some years. With Magic, Springsteen and the band were back.

However, with Working On a Dream, they’re again off somewhere else. With the promise of Magic and the press clips claiming Working on a Dream was an immediate followup to the Magic sessions in both writing and recording, it’s disappointing to hear so much of what we’ve already heard before…from both Springsteen himself and others. Roy Bittan’s piano opening to “Queen of the Supermarket” sounds a lot like his intro to “Backstreets” – too much, in fact. And “Good Eye” mimics too closely “New Minglewood Blues,” a traditional American jug band song by bluesman Noah Lewis. Upon first listen, I found myself singing along: “I was born in the desert, raised in a lion’s den…”

(For those of you keeping score, “Queen” is one of the few Bruce songs that contains the F word; others include “In Freehold” [only heard live] and “Long Time Comin’” [from Devils and Dust].)

Springsteen also repeats too many lyrical phrases over and over. The writer who told the tale of “Thunder Road” without breaking once for a chorus relies too heavily on repetition in songs like “Life Itself” and “Surprise, Surprise.” For a storyteller of his considerable skill, it often feels as if the lyric well may have temporarily run dry. By the sixteenth (count ‘em) utterance of “surprise, surprise, surprise,” you’re just not surprised anymore.

In the hands of a capable lyricist like Springsteen, repetition can certainly help drive the point home, but a passionate delivery is also needed, and sadly, Working on a Dream lacks this in many places. While the lyrics are mostly positive and upbeat, the vocal delivery falls somewhat flat. The passion simply isn’t there, not like it was on Magic, and certainly not like on Springsteen’s much earlier works. You sensed the youthful Springsteen’s yearning as “Backstreets” as he cried, “hiding on the backstreets, hiding on the backstreets, hiding on the backstreets” again and again to brilliant effect, propelling the song toward its final angst-laden climax and then crashing over the cliffs all around you. This effect is missing on the current disc, and even the second single, “My Lucky Day,” with its peppy organ work, falls prey to this problem. Springsteen might say I’m his lucky day, but hearing it repeatedly without any real commitment, it’s hard to believe it.

It also feels as though the band isn’t fully present, both figuratively (too little guitar, and even less of the beloved Clarence Clemons’ saxophone), and literally, as the collection suffers in the absence of the late E Street organist Danny Federici, who is credited on a few but not all tracks.

However, Federici is spiritually present in perhaps the disc’s most haunting song, “The Last Carnival,” in which Springsteen laments the loss of his dear friend. The disc’s final track may, in fact, be the song that redeems the CD. Its circus imagery lyrically hearkens back to one of Springsteen’s (and Federici’s) most inspired efforts, The Wild, The Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle, and vocally, it does indeed capture Springsteen’s pain at the death of his bandmate of nearly 40 years. Federici’s son Jason’s lonesome accordion accents the song gracefully, completing the elegy.

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 07:43 AM
I enjoyed The Boss when I was in high school. Backstreets was the first BS song I ever heard. Love the album Born To Run. I also have a bootleg recorded in 1978 in San Fran. It jams. Other than that, IMO BS is no longer a big deal. He takes himself way too seriously. I guess he got tired of living in Beverly Hills and moved back east. The last BS CD's I bought were the two he released around 1991/92. Haven't played them in 10 years.

I forgot he's playing at half time of the Super Bowl. It will be a good time to catch up on the Puppy Bowl on the Animal Channel.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2009 at 01:41 PM
I loved Bruce until "Tunnel Of Love" AND admit he's always been overrated. I bought "TOL"and the two that came out in 1992 and then checked out until "The Rising." I think the E-Street Band albums of the new decade, starting with "Live In NYC" are a huge inprovement over what I feel are the "lost" period of 1987-1999. I had absolutely no interest in any of that material.

Do I think the E-Street Band, era 2 is as good as the original stuff? No, but it's better than a lot of stuff out there.

Someone has lent me the Seeger Sessions and will have a listen to that one. I'm not hopeful as I'm not a huge folk fan.

I think the new album is better than his 1987-1999 material and I enjoy it. Not enough Clarence, guitars or keys. I am also of the opinion Bruce has the wrong producer: he needs to find a new one, but he seems tighter than a drum with the guy.

If the new U2 blows chunks, RS will give St. Bono and company 5 stars as well.

[Edited on 1/30/2009 by Sax]

 

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  posted on 1/30/2009 at 02:07 PM
Personally, I would pass on any album by any artist that Rolling Stone compared to Born To Run..........just saying something that stupid proves how bad that magazine has become. Blasphemous.

 

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