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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 06:00 AM
An Open Letter of Apology to Bruce Springsteen, Jon Landau and the entire Springsteen Tour Team:

While we were genuinely trying to do the right thing for fans in providing more choices when the tickets they requested from the primary on-sale were not available, we clearly missed the mark. Fans are confused and angry, which is the opposite of what we hoped to accomplish. We sincerely apologize to Bruce, his organization and, above all, his fans.

We recognize that we need to change our course. We have committed to Bruce and state publicly here that we have taken down all links for Bruce's shows directing fans from Ticketmaster to TicketsNow. This redirection only occurred as a choice when we could not satisfy fans' specific search request for primary ticket inventory, but to make sure there is no misunderstanding in the future, we also publicly state that we will never again link to TicketsNow in a manner that can possibly create any confusion during a high-demand on-sale. Specifically, we will not present an option to go to TicketsNow from Ticketmaster without the consent of the artist and the venue, both of whom work together to bring the joy of live entertainment to millions of fans.

If any fans inadvertently purchased tickets in the resale marketplace believing in error they were purchasing from the initial on-sale, we will refund the difference between the actual purchase price and the face price of the ticket. (Please don't abuse this good faith gesture we did not give brokers any preferential access to tickets.)

We are committed to helping deliver the most transparent and best live entertainment experience to fans. We will do better going forward.

Sincerely,

Irving Azoff, CEO, Ticketmaster Entertainment

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 06:31 AM
Oh, that Irving. He's such a sweet man.
 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 06:46 AM
What a nice way for Irv to say "eff you Bruce". Basically all Irv said he's going to do, is take down the red0rect to TicketsNow is you don't get the tickets you want. Nothing as changed, not all tickets will be avails the day tickets go on sale, pre-sale, ect.
 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 07:01 AM
Boycott Ticketb@stard. We fans gotta make a statement to the entertainers that this corporation is ripping off their fans big time. Do I smell a class action suit? I know many folks off this site would benefit as many tickets we all have purchased over the years. I say hit them where they hit us, in the wallet!!

It would never happen though........They will continue as long as folks keep buying tickets from them.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 07:39 AM
Typical SCALPER reply. These bastards actually seem to believe that they're doing fans a favor by effectively forcing a by-pass of general sales and routing ticket buyers to their sister site which sells the same tickets at over twice the face price.

It's good to hear that an artist of the stature of Bruce Springsteen had the stones to speak up to this monopoly! It'd be great to see others follow his example.

[Edited on 2/5/2009 by Rusty]

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 07:47 AM
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Boycott Ticketb@stard. We fans gotta make a statement to the entertainers that this corporation is ripping off their fans big time. Do I smell a class action suit? I know many folks off this site would benefit as many tickets we all have purchased over the years. I say hit them where they hit us, in the wallet!!

It would never happen though........They will continue as long as folks keep buying tickets from them.


You're exactly right. They need to be boycotted. But who is willing to do that? I have to admit, I'm getting close. But paid the outrageous costs for Beacon tickets once again this year. I did stick to my guns and only purchased tickets for one show, which really saddens me that I won't get to see another Beacon show this run.

Yeah, this letter is nothing but fluff. Nothing has changed.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 07:48 AM
Right.

So, if they allow the Brokers to buy all the tickets before the fans, what's changed.


What a joke ...

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 07:54 AM
When enough bands play to enough EMPTY SEATS - some creative person within their organizations will figure out a way to circumvent TicketMaster/TicketsNow.

If an investigation ever shows that a band (any band) was in collusion with TicketMaster in re-directing LOYAL FANS to a scalper site (in this case, TicketsNow) ... I believe said bands are going to see a lot of long-time fans opting out of their concerts altogether.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 08:05 AM
All he is doing is removing the link. It's not like he's stopping the practice of pulling select tickets for TicketsNow and selling them at a higher price, he's just removing the link.
 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 08:55 AM
Wonder why no one discusses what the artists are getting paid nowadays? In many ways, their demands for high gurantees and larger percentage of the total ticket sales leaves the promoter/producers a much smaller margin to make a profit on. Artist GREED is the FORCE that driving promoters/producers to divert tickets to the "secondary" markets, these guys got to be able to make a profit somewhere, which seems to be a fact that's lost on many of you. Ticketmaster themselves don't make that decision about which tickets get sold where and when, that's a decision for the promoter/producers to make. Ticketmaster, when they bought TicketsNow was just facing the reality that certain tickets were going to go the "secondary" market, and figured they would position themselves to take advantage of that fact, truth is, that's smart business. No the real problem here, is that fans don't want to face the fact, that their favorite artists/bands have no problem in making as much money off of them as they can, especially when these artists know that their shows or tours are going to be a high demand item. And when the fans "bitch", these artists have no problem in pointing their finger at TM or the promoter/producers of these shows. But these artists need to realize that when they point that finger, that three fingers are pointing right back at them.

[Edited on 2/5/2009 by sibwlkr]

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 08:59 AM
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(Please don't abuse this good faith gesture we did not give brokers any preferential access to tickets.)
*cough cough*bull$hit*cough cough*

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 09:04 AM
Unfortunately, the reality is that tickets for high demand acts could command far higher prices than face. Other than the artist selling direct to a fan club, with no resale possible, only return to the original seller to be resold, is there really a solution?

It's noble that the bands don't try to squeeze every nickel out of ticket prices from their fans, but SOMEONE is going to make that nickel....

Let's carry this out a bit. Say the only way to get ABB tix was to have been a member here for a year. The site would be flooded with new members. Add a restriction that they have to have made a certain number of posts.....now we're flooded with new posters, most here only to get tix.

I think the solution is that the band and promoter prohibit the primary seller (Ticketmaster) from engaging in any ticket sale other than the primary on sale. If the resale were left to stubhub etc., at least it takes out the conflict of interest.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 09:06 AM
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(Please don't abuse this good faith gesture we did not give brokers any preferential access to tickets.)
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*cough cough*bull$hit*cough cough*


Big Dave,

Irving is probably correct when he states "we did not give brokers any preferential access to tickets". Read what I posted above. All Ticketmaster and even the "brokers" are doing is providing a service to those who promote and produce these shows, and the promoters/producers (and sometimes the artists) are the ones who decide on which tickets get sold where and when.

[Edited on 2/5/2009 by sibwlkr]

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 09:31 AM
It might be constructive for everyone to write a brief letter/email to all of your favorite bands, especially those that you tried to get tix for, protesting Ticketmaster. The more bitchin' they hear, the more likely they will take some sort of action, if any is possible.
 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 09:44 AM
Fred, you may be right, but I'm cynical where TM is concerned. They're trying to monopolize the ticket industry. Look at the proposed Live Nation-Ticketmaster merger. It's greed at its worst.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tickemaster5-2009feb05,0,1222255.stor y

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 10:14 AM
Its cool that Bruce spoke up for his fans, it would be nice if more bands did
 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 10:23 AM
sorry did not see this topic..

ok i am alitte slow...so if this is true...how does ticketsnow have the ability to post these tickets...with in seconds after the shows go on sale...??

please help this poor fellow.....thanks

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 10:44 AM
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If an investigation ever shows that a band (any band) was in collusion with TicketMaster in re-directing LOYAL FANS to a scalper site (in this case, TicketsNow) ... I believe said bands are going to see a lot of long-time fans opting out of their concerts altogether.


Happens quite a bit I'm afraid. To my knowledge bands get a cut of the TicketsNow sales too. F'n Ridiculous

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 11:15 AM
They sold ALL the tickets to a scalping service they own. Point-blank. None to the general public. I believe any statement to the contrary is a point-blank lie. Truly bad people.
 
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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 11:18 AM
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...we did not give brokers any preferential access to tickets.


Whatever.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 11:25 AM
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YES, EXACTLY RIGHT INDEED!!!
Where is the mention of the Allmans Brothers Band, The Grateful Dead,
Phish,...... after my xanax I'll remember more....

[Edited on 2/5/2009 by PeachNutt]

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 11:34 AM
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They sold ALL the tickets to a scalping service they own. Point-blank. None to the general public.


How do you know this?

Also, Brendan, how do you know the bands get a cut of broker sales?

I'm not saying there's no skulldudgery, but suspicions are not fact.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 12:48 PM
OK, I'm a little slow too, so explain this.

ABB tix were only on sale in pre-sale. Day of regular sale TONS of great tix are on Tickets Now at 10:05 AM. How did they get there?

Dead tix were only sold in pre-sale. Day of regular sale TONS of great tix are on Tickets Now at 10:05 AM. How did they get there?

Phish tix same thing.

Now Springsteen tix are on sale, no fan pre-sale, at 10:05 AM TONS of great tix are on Tickets Now. With no large scale pre-sale, how did they get there?

Someone's got some explaining to do.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 01:23 PM
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OK, I'm a little slow too, so explain this.

ABB tix were only on sale in pre-sale. Day of regular sale TONS of great tix are on Tickets Now at 10:05 AM. How did they get there?






Again, not defending Ticketbastard, but ABB tickets were sold at the pre-sale and an AMEX presale. The tickets that showed up on TicketsNow the day of the general sale were showing up there the days before the general sale - they were not the best tickets, like the presale - most row R or above and to the sides.

Later in the day more tickets started showing up on there - but if you followed the threads, there were no more than about 50 tickets for the 3/21 show.


I hope the people have to eat the tickets or sell them below face as we get closer to the sale...... but there were not a ton of tickets for 3/21 on Ticketsnow at the time of the general sale - and like I said, most of them had appeared after the 2 pre-sales.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 01:39 PM
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They sold ALL the tickets to a scalping service they own. Point-blank. None to the general public.


How do you know this?

Also, Brendan, how do you know the bands get a cut of broker sales?

I'm not saying there's no skulldudgery, but suspicions are not fact.


Good point Brock.....my info comes from a "Springsteenhead" or whatever they're called.
She goes to shows around the country, drove in from New Orleans in time to be at her computer for the sale. She networks with Springsteenheads around the country, they meet up at shows like we do. She didn't know about what went on with ABB tickets,
but told me last night that not a single person in her group of about 800 got a single ticket. So that's why I believe that none at all were made available to the public.
If these hard-core fans can't get a single ticket among the group, it's unlikely anybody anywhere got one.

 
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