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  posted on 5/22/2009 at 02:14 PM
Thanks! Pattern Disruptive!!

 

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I thought and still think to this day that this is some of the best, most aggressive work Dickey has ever done. His work here is pure fury, almost angry...I love it. At least for one album... The "Ramblin Man" sh*t was put to rest. We have Warren to thank for lighting this fire, even if it only burned for this album.

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  posted on 5/23/2009 at 05:39 AM
Bob Dylan once said Ramblin' Man is part of the great American songbook. I think I'll go with Bob on that one.

 

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Bob Dylan once said Ramblin' Man is part of the great American songbook. I think I'll go with Bob on that one.


I 'll agree... and If Bob Dylan said so...well.....

 

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  posted on 5/23/2009 at 09:04 AM
Well, I still love that Ramblin´ Man **** . It is one musical side of the unbelievable versatile musician Dickey Betts. I like Pattern Disruptive too. Duanes´s tune is a great instrumental. BTW the band that recorded that album was called the Dickey Betts Band, not the Warren Haynes Band. Dickey gave Warren a spot and he used that opportunity well. I´m sure he learned alot from playin´ alongside Dickey. Overall the album sounds a bit one dimensional to me. I sure don´t need those tired heavy rock licks Warren brought to DBB and ABB.

 

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  posted on 5/24/2009 at 12:12 PM
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I sure don´t need those tired heavy rock licks Warren brought to DBB and ABB.


Interesting. Those "tired heavy rock licks" that Warren brought back to the band are what saved it. Go back and listen to "Win, Lose or Draw"....and see what Dickey's country influence did to the band in '75. Tell me that "Louisiana Lou" and "Just another love song".. is first rate material. Hell, DB & GS doesn't even touch that stuff today. It was that heavy Country slant that drove Chuck, Lamar and Jaimoe into Sea Level...Full time. Imagine if "WLD" had half the power that "Pattern Disruptive" put forth....Things might have been so different. There was such anticipation from the public when "Win, Lose or Draw" was released... and it sunk like a stone.

That album needed a lot more of the "Can't lose what you never had".. and much, much less of the "Just another Love song sound"...

 

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Interesting. Those "tired heavy rock licks" that Warren brought back to the band are what saved it. Go back and listen to "Win, Lose or Draw"....and see what Dickey's country influence did to the band in '75. Tell me that "Louisiana Lou" and "Just another love song".. is first rate material. Hell, DB & GS doesn't even touch that stuff today. It was that heavy Country slant that drove Chuck, Lamar and Jaimoe into Sea Level...Full time. Imagine if "WLD" had half the power that "Pattern Disruptive" put forth....Things might have been so different. There was such anticipation from the public when "Win, Lose or Draw" was released... and it sunk like a stone.

That album needed a lot more of the "Can't lose what you never had".. and much, much less of the "Just another Love song sound"...


Cool Picture!

I have to say though that I'll take the country direction ABB took anyday over the direction some bands took during the 70's...disco=YUCK!

 

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  posted on 5/27/2009 at 01:48 PM
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I thought and still think to this day that this is some of the best, most aggressive work Dickey has ever done. His work here is pure fury, almost angry...I love it. At least for one album... The "Ramblin Man" sh*t was put to rest. We have Warren to thank for lighting this fire, even if it only burned for this album.

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Just when you think Dickey is actually going to get a compliment from King V, he has just got to throw in "Ramblin Man sh*t". Sorry King V, but more than likely you would be in the minority about the song Ramblin Man.

" The Allman Brothers Band's first and only top ten single, topping out at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart". Furthermore, anyone who listens to Ramblin Man off of Wipe the windows and hears the guitar solo during the last 4 mins. of the song and thinks that is country doesn't really know very much about rock and roll guitar.

Oh and this is priceless too. We have Warren to thank for lighting this fire, even if it only burned for this album. Guess you never heard of Seven Turns, Shades of Two Worlds, or Back Where it All Begins. I wonder who the main contributor was in those albums? Yep, you got it folks. Dickey Betts.

Just my $1.50. No scratch that..........just the FACTS!! Try checking them out every once in a while.


 

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  posted on 5/27/2009 at 02:03 PM
Great pic - thank you. I love Pattern Disruptive and also the Dickey/Warren era of the ABB. As for Ramblin' Man. It's a matter of taste. Me, I love it.

 

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Nice try to rewrite ABB history. The truth is there would be no ABB today if it wasn´t for Dickey. He kept the band goin´ while other band members were more interested in chasin´ porn stars or doin´ side projects. So if you´re attending an ABB show these days, enjoy the music and say a big thank you to Brother Dickey in your heart and stop slingin´mud in his direction.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2009 at 05:37 AM
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I thought and still think to this day that this is some of the best, most aggressive work Dickey has ever done. His work here is pure fury, almost angry...I love it. At least for one album... The "Ramblin Man" sh*t was put to rest. We have Warren to thank for lighting this fire, even if it only burned for this album.

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Just when you think Dickey is actually going to get a compliment from King V, he has just got to throw in "Ramblin Man sh*t". Sorry King V, but more than likely you would be in the minority about the song Ramblin Man.


"I thought and still think to this day that this is some of the best, most aggressive work Dickey has ever done. His work here is pure fury, almost angry...I love it."

Sounds like a compliment to me.

And Yes, I think "Ramblin' Man" is a tired period piece.

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" The Allman Brothers Band's first and only top ten single, topping out at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart". Furthermore, anyone who listens to Ramblin Man off of Wipe the windows and hears the guitar solo during the last 4 mins. of the song and thinks that is country doesn't really know very much about rock and roll guitar."



I was at this show.....in Sept of 1973 @ Winterland..... over 35 years ago. And yes I do think it has a country feel to it.

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Oh and this is priceless too. We have Warren to thank for lighting this fire, even if it only burned for this album. Guess you never heard of Seven Turns, Shades of Two Worlds, or Back Where it All Begins. I wonder who the main contributor was in those albums? Yep, you got it folks. Dickey Betts.



That statement of mine was directed at "Pattern Disruptive"...and had zero to do with the albums listed above. Everybody has a different view. In the three records above, I've always felt there was enough good material for ONE great album. Once again, nothing more than a difference of opinion. I hear the"fire" Dickey's playing in P.D.....I think Dickey was at his best when his playing was aggressive, almost nasty.... and I believe it was Warren who pushed that envelope. Dickey may have saved the band in 72-75, but Warren rescued it in 1988. That was my point.

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Just my $1.50. No scratch that..........just the FACTS!! Try checking them out every once in a while.



Just because you believe it to be true, does not make it a fact. The only "fact" listed above was the Billboard quote.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2009 at 07:06 AM
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Nice try to rewrite ABB history. The truth is there would be no ABB today if it wasn´t for Dickey. He kept the band goin´ while other band members were more interested in chasin´ porn stars or doin´ side projects. So if you´re attending an ABB show these days, enjoy the music and say a big thank you to Brother Dickey in your heart and stop slingin´mud in his direction.
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Amen Brother. KingV never get's it though. Once again, I am not the only one who notices the unnecessary remarks and blatant disrespect you show the man on every occasion that presents itself. Try giving it a rest KingV and then maybe people will get off of your a**.

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Having a country feel to it and calling it country sh*t are two different things. Maybe you should have said it that way to begin with. All I know is that the 4 min solo off of wipe the windows is not country.

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And Yes, I think "Ramblin' Man" is a tired period piece.
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And Yes, I think your a tired piece too with your constant mud slinging toward Dickey Betts.

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Oh and this is priceless too. We have Warren to thank for lighting this fire, even if it only burned for this album. Guess you never heard of Seven Turns, Shades of Two Worlds, or Back Where it All Begins. I wonder who the main contributor was in those albums? Yep, you got it folks. Dickey Betts.

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That statement of mine was directed at "Pattern Disruptive"...and had zero to do with the albums listed above. Everybody has a different view. In the three records above, I've always felt there was enough good material for ONE great album. Once again, nothing more than a difference of opinion. I hear the"fire" Dickey's playing in P.D.....I think Dickey was at his best when his playing was aggressive, almost nasty.... and I believe it was Warren who pushed that envelope. Dickey may have saved the band in 72-75, but Warren rescued it in 1988. That was my point.
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No you implied that the fire only burned for one album and that we all have Warren to thank for that. I then reminded you of the next three albums that burned pretty darn bright as well were also Warren and Dickey and that most were written by Dickey. Just check out Mean Woman Blues off of Back Where it All Begins if you want to hear fire that Dickey created, but let Warren sing. Kinda like some of the songs he wrote and let Gregg sing.

You have also said that it was that heavy Country slant that drove Chuck, Lamar and Jaimoe into Sea Level...Full time.

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Don't you think that in actuality it was the breakup of the ABB that caused those men to turn to Sea Level full time? Are you now going to tell me that it was the counrty stuff that caused the break up? I mean that is basicly what you are saying. "It was the counrty slant that drove Chuck, Lamar, and Jaimoe into Sea Level full time". Are you that friggin' stupid or is it that you hate Dickey that much? Ever heard of the Scooter Herring deal. There was a lot more to that breakup than the country stuff Dickey was bringing to the table. KingV, get your opinions straight or better yet.......try looking up stuff and finding out some facts before you spew ignorant opinions out of your pie hole or in this case, your fingertips.






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  posted on 5/28/2009 at 11:36 AM
BIG V,

thanks for posting the photo that is a good one of two great players...

However, I have to part ways on the country thing... If the song choices/style on Win, Lose or Draw were so bad... where is Gregg contributions or better yet where is Butchie's great song writing contributions?

 

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thanks for posting the photo that is a good one of two great players...

However, I have to part ways on the country thing... If the song choices/style on Win, Lose or Draw were so bad... where is Gregg contributions or better yet where is Butchie's great song writing contributions?


Hey Steve...Did you really like that album?... I had never been so disappointed with an ABB release. Imho, Gregg's contributions were weak as well. I haven't owned this album/CD since 1978 or so when I traded it.

Thanks, I thought it was a cool picture as well, reminded me of a period when I thought Dickey was playing with fire.

 

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KingV, get your opinions straight or better yet.......try looking up stuff and finding out some facts before you spew ignorant opinions out of your pie hole or in this case, your fingertips.


From Webster's:

Opinion: A belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge.

I have never claimed my opinion was anything but. You on the other hand, continue to use the word "fact" in the wrong context.

That is a Fact.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2009 at 01:33 PM
Two can play that game KingV. Just like you refused to open up one of my PM's even after you had PM'd me first, I refuse to open up the PM you just sent me. You want to say something to me, say it in public. Bottom line and everyone know's it.......................you bash Dickey Betts every friggin' chance you get. It's pathetic and uncalled for. It goes way beyond a critical review of a show or an album. Many of us see it and call you on it, so deal with it. If I have a difference of opinion or if I can correct your BS with some facts, like I have many, many times, you can't bet your a** I'm gonna come out with it. Maybe one day you'll "get it".
 

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Two can play that game KingV. Just like you refused to open up one of my PM's even after you had PM'd me first, I refuse to open up the PM you just sent me. You want to say something to me, say it in public. Bottom line and everyone know's it.......................you bash Dickey Betts every friggin' chance you get. It's pathetic and uncalled for. It goes way beyond a critical review of a show or an album. Many of us see it and call you on it, so deal with it. If I have a difference of opinion or if I can correct your BS with some facts, like I have many, many times, you can't bet your a** I'm gonna come out with it. Maybe one day you'll "get it".


This appears to be what you live for.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2009 at 01:42 PM
The funny thing is I don't have to go lookin' for it. You bash Dickey every chance you get. It's pathetic man. Hell, even if the thread is about the Grateful Dead, you'll turn it into a Dickey bashing thread. Even when you start off with a compliment you end up bashing him in the end. Dude, get a clue man. I'm NOT the only one that calls you on this kind of sh*t. Hell no, you can't. I think YOU live for this sh*t.
 

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The funny thing is I don't have to go lookin' for it. You bash Dickey every chance you get. It's pathetic man. Hell, even if the thread is about the Grateful Dead, you'll turn it into a Dickey bashing thread. Even when you start off with a compliment you end up bashing him in the end. Dude, get a clue man. I'm NOT the only one that calls you on this kind of sh*t. Hell no, you can't. I think YOU live for this sh*t.


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Of course you do. It doesn't matter what I and many others tell you or prove to you. Even WHEN you are proven wrong, you'll stand by it. Just like you have accused Dickey of that false pride, you are guilty of it yourself. How sad.
 

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Of course you do. It doesn't matter what I and many others tell you or prove to you. Even WHEN you are proven wrong, you'll stand by it. Just like you have accused Dickey of that false pride, you are guilty of it yourself. How sad.


You have "proved" nothing.

 

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Well, I proved that Dickey said what he said about the Grateful Dead, so blow that out your butt KingV. I also proved to you that the country stuff was not the reason that Sea Level went full time. KingV, to be so intelligent and opinionated, I sure wish you would at least give me a little bit of a challenge when we have a debate.
 

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Well, I proved that Dickey said what he said about the Grateful Dead, so blow that out your butt KingV. I also proved to you that the country stuff was not the reason that Sea Level went full time. KingV, to be so intelligent and opinionated, I sure wish you would at least give me a little bit of a challenge when we have a debate.


You don't understand the meaning of the word debate.

 

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debate

: a contention by words or arguments: as a: the formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedure b: a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides


And you've had your a** handed to you in every one we have ever been in and the greatest thing about it all is that it kills you inside because you think you are so superior, so much more intelligent, and that your opinion is always right even when you are proven wrong.


 
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