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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 08:36 PM
Having had success with my 20 gallon since February and realizing I cannot get very many fish in that tank, I am upgrading to a 55 gallon!. I already put together a nice Aquarium stand and bought the new Aquarium. I am currently running the 55 gallon filter on the cycled 20 gallon tank for six weeks. I currently have two 20 gallon size filters also running on the smaller tank which is of course fully cycled. My plan is by this weekend to have water in the new tank, move one of the cycled smaller filters to the new tank and move my three platies to the new tank so it can remain cycled while the new filter cycles with the rest of the fish on the old tank. My third filter which is cycled will stay on the old tank to protect the rest of the fish while the new filter cycles. Then in six weeks, all the fish will be transferred (14 in all) as well both remaining filters. I will run extra filters on the new tank in case I ever need a hospital tank. I will then dismantle and empty the old tank and be left with a beautiful 55 gallon with just 14 fish and plenty of stocking options. That's when the fun and the dilemma begins.

What I realize is that most fish, even community fish, like to be with a decent sized number of its own kind. When you have a small tank like twenty gallons, two competing things run up against each other, the desire to have a variety of species vs. the need to limit the amount of fish in the tank. For this reason people will often have small amounts of schooling fish like 3 or 4 tetras or 3 tiger barbs. This is not good. These fish in particular need to be in schools of at least 8 or 9. Even catfish prefer to be with at least 4 of its own kind. So with the 55 gallon I have the opportunity to have both a large variety of species while also keeping each in sufficient number.

All this by way of saying if there are any aquarists here, I would be interested in any suggestions for stocking. I already know I am getting a school of 8 or 9 tiger barbs. That is the centerpiece of the tank. For this reason, I will not be getting any Angels or Bettas or other slow moving large finned species. (Though my belief is that if the tigers are in sufficient number they will leave the rest of the tank alone) But after that I am not sure. I know I am going to get 4 or 5 bottom dwellers, either cory cats or yo yo loaches. I also intend to get two female swordtails because I think my gorgeous male sword tail is lonely for its own kind. After that I am open. I think I will be getting two large gouramis, probably Pearl. I am considering rainbows and/or possibly a ram or other relatively peaceful small cichlid. After that I am really unclear.

So if you are not interested in aquariums, please skip this otherwise, let's talk.

Doug

[Edited on 7/20/2009 by dougrhon]

 

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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 08:44 PM
I have a 100 gallon tank and have had everything in it,you name it.
I had good luck with Tin foil barbs which grow very large and can handle a wide variety of water conditions,I also had silver dollars which school back and forth and really look cool.
Right now I have 3 Red devils that are getting very large ,the problem being only one will probably survive because they are very aggressive.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 08:51 PM
We have a 55 gallon salt water aquarium that my youngest daughter, Rachel, did for her senior project. She's the expert, though, but I can tell you we have two clown fish that I like a lot, as well as several other colorful fishies. I might have to fire up the camera and take a few pics and post them.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 08:53 PM
the cichlids I have had in the past were aggressive as hell, they always beat up my other fish, as well as each other.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 08:53 PM
They were african cichlids if that matters.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 09:15 PM
I'm freshwater Dave but I would love to see pictures. You have to stay away from all but the smallest and easiest going cichlids if you want a community tank. They are highly aggressive and territorial and will stake out a large portion of the tank as their territory and sometimes ALL of it and defend it to the death. I know people love cichlids and they are exciting and interesting fish but many of them including Oscars, red devils, green terrors etc. will kill anything they are able to. I like the barbs. Currently I have a large school of cherry barbs in my 20 gallon because they are the only species small enough to school in the tank. I am not turned on by tetras which I find boring.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 09:15 PM
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We have a 55 gallon salt water aquarium that my youngest daughter, Rachel, did for her senior project. She's the expert, though, but I can tell you we have two clown fish that I like a lot, as well as several other colorful fishies. I might have to fire up the camera and take a few pics and post them.


Hey,Dave..I had to beautiful Clown fish in my 30 gal. tank that i really dug...the problem was,they got pretty large & would eat any fish in the tank smaller than them !! It got to where i couldn't put any other fish in there w/them.They ate 2 dz. Neon's that i added in one night...had to get another tank & put them in by themselves....

 

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We have a 55 gallon salt water aquarium that my youngest daughter, Rachel, did for her senior project. She's the expert, though, but I can tell you we have two clown fish that I like a lot, as well as several other colorful fishies. I might have to fire up the camera and take a few pics and post them.


Hey,Dave..I had to beautiful Clown fish in my 30 gal. tank that i really dug...the problem was,they got pretty large & would eat any fish in the tank smaller than them !! It got to where i couldn't put any other fish in there w/them.They ate 2 dz. Neon's that i added in one night...had to get another tank & put them in by themselves....


Neons are tough because most fish will eat them, even small non-agressive fish. They are apparently very tasty. But to keep these larger fish happy and give others a chance at life you need to give them enough space. If the tank is large enough and you meet their needs many aggresive fish will become perfectly decent members of the tank community. Some are just psychos though. I have a book that refers to the Jewel fish as a "sort of Charles Manson with fins."

 

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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 09:45 PM
I changed the name of the thread to generalize it. I would love to keep he discussion going. I find tropical fish fascinating.

 

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We have a 55 gallon salt water aquarium that my youngest daughter, Rachel, did for her senior project. She's the expert, though, but I can tell you we have two clown fish that I like a lot, as well as several other colorful fishies. I might have to fire up the camera and take a few pics and post them.


Hey,Dave..I had to beautiful Clown fish in my 30 gal. tank that i really dug...the problem was,they got pretty large & would eat any fish in the tank smaller than them !! It got to where i couldn't put any other fish in there w/them.They ate 2 dz. Neon's that i added in one night...had to get another tank & put them in by themselves....


Neons are tough because most fish will eat them, even small non-agressive fish. They are apparently very tasty. But to keep these larger fish happy and give others a chance at life you need to give them enough space. If the tank is large enough and you meet their needs many aggresive fish will become perfectly decent members of the tank community. Some are just psychos though. I have a book that refers to the Jewel fish as a "sort of Charles Manson with fins."



I think mine were def. "Psychos",LOL...they even chased the Angel fish....I ended up getting a 20 gal. tank & put just Neon's & frogs in it...I love the neons....

 

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We have a 55 gallon salt water aquarium that my youngest daughter, Rachel, did for her senior project. She's the expert, though, but I can tell you we have two clown fish that I like a lot, as well as several other colorful fishies. I might have to fire up the camera and take a few pics and post them.


Hey,Dave..I had to beautiful Clown fish in my 30 gal. tank that i really dug...the problem was,they got pretty large & would eat any fish in the tank smaller than them !! It got to where i couldn't put any other fish in there w/them.They ate 2 dz. Neon's that i added in one night...had to get another tank & put them in by themselves....


Neons are tough because most fish will eat them, even small non-agressive fish. They are apparently very tasty. But to keep these larger fish happy and give others a chance at life you need to give them enough space. If the tank is large enough and you meet their needs many aggresive fish will become perfectly decent members of the tank community. Some are just psychos though. I have a book that refers to the Jewel fish as a "sort of Charles Manson with fins."



I think mine were def. "Psychos",LOL...they even chased the Angel fish....I ended up getting a 20 gal. tank & put just Neon's & frogs in it...I love the neons....


Everyone chases Angel fish because they are so slow and tempting. But they are also killers. You can't keep fry in a tank with them because they will track them down and eat them.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2009 at 10:41 PM
My ex-wife was a big fish person.

She had four tanks, three freshwater and one salt.

When Hurricane Alicia came through we had just bought a couple hundred dollars worth of tropical fish.

We had no power, but the houses across the street did.

Our neighbors ran an extension cord over to us and rather than run AC, we hooked up the fish tanks.

I wasn't much into it, but the Lion fish were pretty cool.

 

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